I rode a fully upgraded Surron - It's INSANE!

[@rwolfcastle]

I had an Ultra Bee and a Talaria MX3. I originally wanted to keep my MX3, but after owning the Ultra the Talaria got no love. Easy solution, I let two friends go riding with me, and they both made offers during the ride. She got a new home now which makes me happy. Im on 21/18's, 50t sprocket, with all the basic cockpit mods. Love this bike so much!

[@sammymartinez787]

For 14,000 should have just got Stark Varg

[@KadenF-vf3ee]

Stark varg looks gay.

[@sammymartinez787]

@@KadenF-vf3ee stop hating 🤡

[@ENDfalse-tine]

The biggest issue i have with the varg is not having to hotswap option. Otherwise yes.

[@bonjovi1354]

After that the mobile phone thingy if it breaks it ain't cheap too​@@ENDfalse-tine

[@trail.squatch]

Danggggg! That build is CRISPY!

[@nuclearmisfits9391]

Where are you riding looks sweet. By the way this is Matt that road the hill climbs with you at tahyua . The Video turned out awesome it was cool watching what a gas bike can do and a electric.

[@zekd]

We gotta link up and go for a ride one of these weekends. I'm planning on going down to Gifford with it to see how it does in the backcountry!

[@trail.squatch]

There's something about the sound of the Ultra

[@SolelyElectric]

Good or bad ?

[@trail.squatch]

Tasty.

[@y2k1307]

How tall is the dude with the modded Ultra? He's a pretty big boy and that bike is pulling him without issue.

[@Some.Canadian]

Actually just started an order today for Ultra Bee... off Alibaba. Here's hoping I don't end up like your buddy and get it with at least a few months to spare before winter hits. But it's hard to say no to saving over 2k.

[@Some.Canadian]

Got the bike last week! I did in fact get it with only a few months to spare lol. Only taken it out a few times but I have to say, it might be the most fun bike I've ridden. Riding stock I will say that a 21 in the front at minimum is absolutely mandatory, the 19 stock wheel just goes wherever it damn pleases. Fast and twitchy but unless your on a nice road it's just way too squirrelly. I just threw a used CRF wheel on and chopped up some wheels spacers to fit and it completely change the ride in a good way. Needs a new tire and some new wheels bearings but that'll probably be a winter project. Probably going to stick with the 19 rear and just go for a bigger tire, I like the extra height it gives me. Gonna figure out bars as well, even with 30mm risers it's still a little low for me while standing.

[@markcoleman2960]

Sweet video brother. Just for some comparison. What is mister Josh's weight and height as I am 6'5" and 225lbs and trying to decide on an Ultra Bee or an Artic Leopard. Thnx

[@jimmycone3717]

Nice!! What kind of range you think that modded Bee can get riding like you guys where riding. Great video!

[@zekd]

Around 40 miles, depending on your rider weight, we are above average weight for these bikes haha. We seen guys in the 150-180lb range get closers to 50-55mi. There's so many factors that go into range. Rider weight, bike set up, riding pace, riding style, terrain, ect.

[@je7647]

if I had an ultra bee id look at a 134/144 volt setup you should consider

[@gavindobson6077]

Great informative video. My sequence of upgrades, 21/18 - Torp tc1000 (the range of adjustment is mint, and recent update is providing 18kw) 550 lb rear spring - Front Fork spacer - Next Steps; I'm waiting on Torp TM25 motor (I have been getting high temps on the stock motor in wide open, fast hilly terrain) In Aus there is limited battery options, EBMX mainly. Keep up the great vids✊️

[@zekd]

Nice! Sounds like you got your bike dialed! Tell me more about the "fork spacer"?

[@gavindobson6077]

@zekd I had my local suspension guy do it, and to be honest, I didn't ask the detail! The outcome is, it raised the fork in the stroke, meaning it uses more of the spring, I guess that means more preload, better action on smaller and sharp edge terrain.. I'll ask him more detail when I speak to him and come back to you👍

[@zekd]

@@gavindobson6077 sounds good! I’d appreciate that.

[@gavindobson6077]

@zekd so, I still don't know exactly what method he used, other than spacer method. I intend to get a further update on them, once I get the battery upgrade (extra weight) I'll let you know how it goes (eta 6-8 weeks) ✊️

[@Brenno097]

​@gavindobson6077 hey man, where abouts in aus are you. I'm in south west Sydney looking to get one of these, tossing up between this and crf300l honda as don't know where to really ride near me, so concerned about range. Otherwise I would have to put in back of suv and drive somewhere with e bike

[@ElToroMoto]

Love your enthusiasm!

[@Bill-e-Goat]

Man I am getting one I just decided - let’s goooooo!!!!

[@shawndoucette9797]

What is the range with the upgrades?

[@gareth5000]

Cutting edge! I grew up on two strokes and always wanted a hot four stroke. They turned out ok but electric is better.

[@chancekennedy730]

It would be sweet to see how the modded bike does on the hillclimbs now hopefully we run back into you guys sometime this summer cause id love to see that bike!

[@zekd]

...and a gummy rear tire! We should try to link up. I'll let you try the bike out. Hit me up on Instagram. We can chat there.

[@chancekennedy730]

@@zekd hell ya man. I'd love to ride with yall again!

[@y2k1307]

what sprocket are you running on the stock Ultra Bee? When you were wide open in sport mode, you were at 46mph.

[@jz64]

Your guys Surrons are sick you need to find some single track trails that's were it's at on a surron I heard there amazing on the single track .

[@zekd]

Thanks man. We do plenty of single track riding. They are amazing on them. Check out my other videos 🤙

[@michaelsheffield9653]

is it really worth it getting a surron from allibaba?

[@DIYracing]

So is he at 15 kW with stock motor?

[@jasongardner1910]

What bark busters are those and are they stock bars?

[@zekd]

I think they are the Cycra Pro Bend (or pro bend ultras)

[@ulukini9183]

How many kw was mode 3?

[@zekd]

I'm not sure. It was not turned all the way up. If I had to guess, around 25kw.

[@rwolfcastle]

What hand guards is he running?

[@zekd]

Cycra Pro Bend (or pro bend ultra)

[@rwolfcastle]

@@zekd It looks like he's running a triple clamp mount or something. I'm running some acerbis guards, but the inside mounts are terrible looking for a solution similar to his.

[@PUGETSOUNDMOTORSPORTS]

GANG ⚡️🏔️

[@ridgeridermoto]

I'm curious, how tall/ heavy is your friend? I'm tall and wondering how the Ultra fits. Great video :))

[@dariusproductionses]

I can’t find the comment but I saw you saying you just need an ORV tag to ride on orv trails. I’m in Washington too. Can you have an orv tag without the bike being registered?

[@trail.squatch]

You have to have an ORV tag to ride off road in WA state. and you cannot get an ORV tag without the bike being registered. Its not difficult to register however...

[@nunyobizkneez]

No engine upgrade? Just planning on burning out the stock motor before replacing eh? No hate, might as well, paid for the stock motor, send it til it dies right?

[@zekd]

It seems the stock motor is actually better for slower trail type riding. From my initial research into motor upgrades, it seems like you lose a bit of torque down low but gain better top speed with an upgraded motor. I'm not sure tho, would need to do more research.

[@aerykhurley8236]

I dunno if "fully upgraded" really exists with a stock motor. Its great no doubt, but my UB doesnt wake up on the stock motor...

[@surrontvkobuild]

Idk storm is the way to go how I feel how is suspension enough ? From Ulta ??

[@KayvonGz]

they are showa reps, very good.

[@surrontvkobuild]

@@KayvonGz ?? Okay 👍👌

[@PlatinumPlopper]

You ever get trouble for riding on logging roads?

[@zekd]

Not in this riding area, its a OHV spot so as long as you have your OHV tag you'll be good.

[@PlatinumPlopper]

I just got the talaria Sting. I'm looking for places to ride.I live in Snohomish county. Do you use on xoffroad?

[@zekd]

@@PlatinumPlopper I use a combo of navigation apps but onX is my favorite. Really easy to map out routes and find riding areas.

[@tecnoworld5324]

What was the top speed in most powerful mode?

[@zekd]

Around 60mph. But keep in mind he was running a 54T sprocket, if he was running the stock sprocket it would be over 70mph.

[@tecnoworld5324]

@@zekd really insane!!

[@Mr316jon316]

Hey man where did he buy it from and how much did he pay? I am wanting to buy one.

[@zekd]

Alibaba, Double Tree Machinery. Think it cost him around $5500.

[@trail.squatch]

Changzhou Double Spring Machinery Co., Ltd. On Alibaba. But I WOULD NOT RECOMMEND them. It was hell getting it from that company. Took 7 months. In stock form from them it was about 5700

[@alarma808]

upgrade an ultra or STARK VARG?

[@vikramk8568]

nothing to do to a varg

[@alarma808]

@@vikramk8568 yeh upgrade the ultra or stock SV

[@trail.squatch]

#surrongang

[@Bezee4reeze]

Missing a real rear shock! Cool build though!

[@zekd]

More to come on that! WP 43mm forks next!

[@brandon25184]

They seem like so much fun but probably the most expensive toy you can buy 10k for the bike 5k to upgrade the battery and controller where I'm at

[@zekd]

So much fun and yes I agree, it’s a very expensive toy. Luckily the bike prices have come down and you can get a new one for $5800. So with the mods you are closer to 12k - which is more expensive than a Stark’s Varg. But they are completely different bikes. Tbh the stock Ultra Bee is super capable. Just put some dirt wheels on it and enjoy.

[@brandon25184]

@@zekd I'm in Ontario Canada and it's still 10k here, I was just in Yamaha looking at them was 8k after building cost and taxes pretty much 10k and the stark varg is 17k after everything pretty much 20k I would love to have both of them still tho lmao.

[@thomaswhiteside8142]

why is ur ultra bee only going 45? mine goes 60 out of the box, do you have a bigger sprocket on it?

[@zekd]

Yeah 54T sprocket

[@SurFrankenRon]

Thumb throttle is king

[@countrycanadian44]

Id still go gas

[@zekd]

Yeah def not a replacement for gas. But it’s a great second bike that is slowly becoming the primary!

[@GroovyVideo2]

suspension on a surron is sketchy

[@JerryIrby-dc3gt]

Hello IM NOTORIOUS IRBY IN NEWARK NEW JERSEY YES I LIKE THE SORRON BRO THIS IS FAST OK I NEVER RODE A SURRON BUT IM A WEPEDZ GT SCOOTER RIDER DAUL MOTORS AND ITS FAST BUT THE 14000 THAS A PAYMENT FOR SURE ICANT AFFORD IT BUT IM HAPPY BECAUSE FOR 2000 MY SCOOTER BABY IS SUPER STRONG SO IM REAL HAPPY AND I CAN SEE THAT YOU GUYS IS HAPPY ❤️💯👍👍🤝👈😇WE ALL AMERICANS MUCH LOVE FOR YOU BRO 😁✌️