I Shouldn’t Be Allowed To Show You This… - New Lightroom Feature

[@carlom.3737]

Thanks for this comparison, it was useful. I was a little confused why you opted to compare the bokeh to a 2.8 zoom lens when your title asks if LR kills prime lenses. The bokeh one can get from a f/1.2, 1.4 or even 1.8 (depending on focal length and distance between subject and background of course) can be quite dramatically different from a 2.8. For me, my time is money, and if I have to spend time manually adjusting LR bokeh/blur and telling it occasionally what is foreground/background, etc. that will quickly wipe out the cost saving of a fast prime that I won't have to do any of that work on.

[@davey_gravy]

Valid points! I agree. I don’t think this software eliminates primes, but it’s amazing technology. I was on a trip to Switzerland and only brought a few lens, and no primes, 2.8 was the lowest aperture I had. I wish I had a prime to do a better comparison. I’ve been changing the title and thumbnail too, hence the “kills primes”, my original title was different and no one was watching.

[@carlom.3737]

@@davey_gravy No worries at all, I'm glad you did the comparison even if it was with the 2.8. I just got into mirrorless and got the Canon RF 24-70 and 70-200 in 2.8 and was contemplating primes which is why I think YT recommended your video. I just bought the RF nifty fifty, it only goes to 1.8 but if I have time in the near future I may take some wide open shots and then at f/11 or higher and see what Lr does to the f/11 shots compared to the 1.8.

[@changez77654]

My takeaway is - I no longer need to lust after those juicy f1.4 bokeh bazookas anymore - this technology is already pretty good right now, who knows what another 12 months will take it. The fact that I can apply it to old pictures too is a great plus.

[@davey_gravy]

I’m with ya! If this is the beta, this is only going to get better. Were in for a wild future

[@ulyssessait]

is it me, or it still feels artificial tho? I know it still in early access

[@LudwickMa]

@@davey_gravygreat job. Would be great if you did a part2 with iPhone photos to see if the data from LiDAR sensor helps Lr do foreground blur better

[@Zandalee]

Also Switzerland looks unreal. Must go back.

[@davey_gravy]

I’d go back any day

[@ChrisRonak]

im supposed to be working right now and instead am just binging your channel

[@davey_gravy]

Your boss would be okay with that…

[@HR-wd6cw]

Short answer is YES. And this is generally how I travel in most cases (that being said, I do generally pack a 50mm 1.8 in my bag regardless for low-light/night shooting, but in my past few trips, haven't needed it -- just used my ultra wide angle zoom and travel zoom (so it gave me from 14mm to 120mm which was plenty). With modern post processing software (such as Sharpening tools like Topaz Sharpen AI) and quality zoom lenses these days, the gap between high-end and even mid-range zooms and primes is shrinking. Obviously primes (especially fast primes) will still have the "edge" when it comes to sharpness in general since they are tuned for one specific focal length, and for the reasons of bokeh quality but zooms have come along way in the past 10 years even, with some coming quite close to what some primes offer (in terms of sharpness and in some cases, bokeh, at commonly shared apertures). I guess for me, I'd be willing to give up a bit of that sharpness and speed in favor of flexibility especially when traveling because I can focus more on my photography than on switching lenses all the time. I know that this video was related to Lightroom and post processing ,but in general, I think zooms have sort of eaten into the primes marketshare a bit with improved optics and designs over the past decade+. And to be honest, I'm still not a big fan of adding shallow DOF blur later in post... I'm still a big fan of getting it right out of camera, but I know some people can't afford the premium fast primes in many cases. But if given the option , I would honestly still try to get it right out of camera in this context. And part of the reason for me not particularly liking to do this in post is because sometimes DOF fall-off is harder to reproduce in post than it would be based on the actual optical properties of the lens. I would say in a rather flat scene where it's perhaps a headshot with a background that is a good distance away, you can probably pull this off just fine, but if there is visual depth in the scene (foreground, mid-ground and background) and the eye can see the depth of the scene, then this may be harder to pull off as creating fall-off from a blur standpoint may require several steps or not look right in general.

[@davey_gravy]

I believe that I am with you on all of this. The flexibility of zooms have made me leave them at home a little bit more, especially travelling when space and weight are factors.

[@CodyBaker]

Pretty crazy first attempt at this tech by Adobe though

[@davey_gravy]

You were the star of this show

[@ADesignersLife]

I was playing with this feature the other day too and honestly was surprised just how good this “beta” product is doing already at adding bokeh. In a few years it will likely be almost completely indistinguishable from the real deal.

[@davey_gravy]

Totally! In so many situations, it's pretty fantastic.

[@CodyBaker]

Are prime lens sales dropping rapidly? 👀

[@davey_gravy]

B And H is actually shutting down!

[@BrainDamageNeko]

The tech is literally insane. I just applied it over my old photos and holy shit the bokeh is perfect. I guess prime lenses really are going to lose their charm

[@davey_gravy]

It's so wild! Very helpful that we can use it on past images.

[@mex5341]

Tamron 35-150 did it

[@davey_gravy]

What did it do?

[@mex5341]

@@davey_gravy " ... Just Kill Prime Lenses"

[@davey_gravy]

@@mex5341 Ah, it’s a killer lens. However, it is pretty expensive and heavy. But amazing!

[@-MrEVIL-]

​@@davey_gravy then again, every f2.8 zooms are expensive Moreover this starts at f2

[@Zandalee]

WOW get my iPhone pics in there and call me a pro

[@davey_gravy]

You got it boss!