SUBSCRIBE! Did I convince you about this whole "DAVE" name yet? Let me know! :D I will say the claim that Dave is gotten more consistently than Cassidy is certainly a hot take, and one I know people will not agree with, although I'm just pointing out the inconsistencies between all of the letters. I did originally mention how the "MY NAME"s weren't on all her letters but apparently some versions are misprinted, some have them, some don't, so I'm not too sure what to make of that and just cut me saying they're "not on all of them" out the video to not spread misinformation - although the letter "i" definitely doesn't have it on the page the letter is solved, instead being on a page that redirects to it which means they're undeniably not on all of the pages the letters are solved and makes another inconsistency in the puzzle but neither here nor there... doesn't matter, cut it just in case! All in all I totally get if you disagree with that part, but it should be highlighted how different each of the letters were to solve while Dave's is simply point A -> B for all of them.
@LadyLuckyLu4 күн бұрын
Hell yeah you did. I was never convinced on Evan, and refused to call him as such. William, Elizabeth, Michael and then- Evan. David it's just 10 times better lmao.
@Nguyenzander4 күн бұрын
Yes, we can retire "Crying Child" now imo
@torismith93604 күн бұрын
Yes, and you convinced Matpat which was even more impressive. I'm easy to convince ut he took the hard work you put in.
@LuisLicona-n2m4 күн бұрын
yo hyper droid you forgot the fnaf encyclopedia page 210 and 211 that's all about the crying child confirming that he is a FNAF 4 protagonist and that nightmare appears on his page plus not to mention FNAF 4 is his first debut and also mike and his friends are only 4 bullies so 4 is the magic number for Dave Afton and if you type 1983 in the week before book we get the bite of 83 recordings and Ralph somehow remembers it meaning he work at Fredbear's and at Freddy's at the same time in 1983. Also in the FNAF Mike talks to Ghost kid the spirit of golden Freddy who wants answers about his brother Garret and this also parallels Michel in the Games that he to try to talk to Cassidy about his brother Dave and tries to set both of them free! Specking of opposites of each other Dave and Cassidy have opposite personalities like Jack and Andrew in the stichwraith epilogues of Fazbear frights , one more thing is that the my name grave stone is drawn by mike with a flower vase on it and where else we see it no other then FNAF 4 meaning that the grave stone with a flower vase isn't cassidy's but rather then Dave's grave stone because Cassidy doesn't have a flower vase at the end of fnaf 6 with the other kids plus Charlotte.
@Arandomperaon4 күн бұрын
Yes definitely. Dave seems to be one of the most sensible answers I’ve seen for the past 6 years.
@angelav44014 күн бұрын
"You should fire Dave. He sucks." -- One of the very first messages you find in SB
@Kawa-oneechan3 күн бұрын
The "One Steve Limit" is quite heavily averted in FNAF as a whole. There's at least four people in there named Jeremy that I know of -- the FNAF2 protag Jeremy Fitzgerald, the missing child who became Bonnie, the beta tester who cut his face off, and the subject of Comedian Bot's "jokes". So why not have three Daves, being the sucky one, William's alias, and the Crying Child?
@chicabear3 күн бұрын
@@Kawa-oneechanto be fair I'm pretty sure the message is supposed to be an easter egg reference to Dave Miller, which by extension would also be connected to the crying child. But names are reused a lot, all the Jeremys (and if you really want to stretch Mike's coworker at the mall in the beginning of the movie is named Jeremiah), two Cassidys, one in game and one in the books, and Mike/Michael, Michael Afton, movie Mike, and Michael from the novel trilogy.
@z24hourgamer23 күн бұрын
Honestly my first thought was Dave from Dayshift at Freddy's, completely forgetting that that legendary fangame didn't make the name
@captainspock3p072 күн бұрын
I like to think Dave in TWB is the same Dave in SB (I don't think it was William).
@KrisBREAD4 сағат бұрын
@@z24hourgamer2 Same
@CottonCandySharks4 күн бұрын
I like the "mike has to help with one letter in both names"
@HyperDroid3 күн бұрын
I can't believe I didn't realize that the first time, they both literally end in the same way which makes it feel much more intentional
@ethans9379Күн бұрын
I think that really is the clincher here. It deals with the biggest counter argument against the solution without any difficulty
@microwavedwaterr4 күн бұрын
even if you don't add the extra nightmare drawing, I still think that answer fits because we know what Dave's "dreams" were like and they were HORRIFYING. I feel like remembering those dreams from the question alone would make you scared enough even without the visual clue
@HyperDroid3 күн бұрын
honestly my thoughts exactly but I know people want the intentionality of it all to make more sense, so while I do think it works without the image I think it's easier to convince people that WAS the intended "dreams" they're talking about with the image itself
@phatslug71702 күн бұрын
yeah if my dreams had horrified versions of my plushies coming for my life at all angles i'd be terrified to even blink
@RoyalKingOliver4 күн бұрын
I also want to point out that when it comes to the conversation with Cassidy and Dave, if you take it into full context, Cassidy is trying to jog Dave's memory to see what he can remember. That last question with the Nightmare picture just screams that Dave remembers the horrible things that happened to him. It's such a natural response to say "I'm scared" when he remembers the nightmares he metophorically and literally experienced From a narrative standpoint, it fits to a tea.
@jordandrinkwater13453 күн бұрын
"Do you have dreams (Showing Nightmare Fredbear)?" "I'm scared (of them (referring to the awful dreams he had))."
@HyperDroid3 күн бұрын
EXACTLY it seems so simple to me I don't see the complication
@Mike142643 күн бұрын
While ideally, something like "I'm scared of them" would fit better... yeah, it still makes a lot of sense for this one loose piece of changed text to fit in the most likely question of all the remaining ones.
@bigbungubingu82912 күн бұрын
@@HyperDroid My only issue is that from an author's perspective, why would the answers requiring a visual be so weird? "The party was for you" "it was for me" is as direct of a response as you can get, so "does he still talk to you" would make much more sense to have "i can hear a voice" or simply "he does" as an answer. The middle responses also show that the answer isn't supposed to be obscure, but obvious. So why wouldn't Scott or the editors make the answers fit better? We can just say "scott's a troll" but that's a cop out :/
@Asa454003 күн бұрын
I want to add in something: the mirror is used for BOTH names if you think about it. When looking at the word search, you see two things, “WHO ARE YOU?” And “WHAT IS YOUR NAME?”. Looking to the next page, you see a giant (in your face) mirror with Faded Text saying “WHAT DO YOU SEE?”. This outright tells you to look for the answer in the word search. Collect all the clues, go to the word search, and solve it. This means that the mirror itself is the clue to solve both names, further adding to the fact that the way to solve both names are opposites of each other; or, in other words, REFLECTIONS of each other. You solve one mystery name by putting numbers in a word search, you solve another mystery name by putting words in a number grid. Symmetry, my friend.
@King_Kong-Zilla3 күн бұрын
*Kicks mike
@Modmangoingmad4 күн бұрын
Alright I'm sold. Before you released this video I didn't really have a strong opinion on what the CC name is it was likely Dave but i didn't really think much of it other than it being a pretty solid convenient answer. But now I'm completely sold on it being Dave.
@HyperDroid3 күн бұрын
THAT'S GREAT THANK YOU! :D
@B4NDIT_123 күн бұрын
@@HyperDroidWilliam Afton uses fake name "Dave" as Security Guard in Silver Eyes book. Giving that name to most important character in the series must hint at something
@anthonyrizzo28913 күн бұрын
The "do you have dreams" one is a little wonky but consider this I just thought of... What if Mike putting nightmare was a way for him to clarify what Cassidy was asking Dave... C: Do you have dreams? M: What about a Nightmare? D: I'M SCARED!!! it makes ALL too much sense in that context, considering how much even seeing an animatronic suit would terrify dave... If it was any other animatronic, I'd consider it less, but it's NAME IS FREAKING NIGHTMARE... and being we view Mike as trying to help the spirits communicate and find their names, it only makes sense that he gives each of them the final part they have been missing...
@foxyfoxy20344 күн бұрын
It's just like John from Fuhnaff whenever someone doesn't believe his theory he's just like "Need more proof?" Also love the content keep it up.
@Trontotario4 күн бұрын
Yeah and ends up completely wrong
@foxyfoxy20344 күн бұрын
@Trontotario still though. Reminds me of it somewhat
@Trontotario3 күн бұрын
@ yeah, both make really bad theories with only 1 decent evidence that age poorly
@foxyfoxy20343 күн бұрын
@Trontotario I trust the Dave theory. If you don't that's your choice. But I personally trust the Dave theory.
@HyperDroid3 күн бұрын
I should've kept that in the video I DID originally say after my quick explaination of part one "need more proof?" but cut it dammit
@Shakkael3 күн бұрын
You could look at this that way: Mike's input gives the last name of Cassidy's name and FIRST not last letter of Dave. You repeatedly say "last letter of Dave" because it's last before reflection, but it's actually first letter of the name further showing more connection by giving another contrast
@mage14394 күн бұрын
I don't know if I can wait another hour and fifteen minutes. I'm going to go freeze myself like Cartman.
@The_fish-o7y3 күн бұрын
Cartman mentioned (me too)
@JackDonaldson-gy2zu2 күн бұрын
Another clue for “I can hear sounds” being a response to “does he still talk to you” is how this would play out in a real conversation. Cassidy asks, “does he still talk to you?” And BV responds with, “Well, I can hear sounds, but I don’t know if it’s him or not.”
@kr_ykoo4 күн бұрын
hyper droid is only delivering peak content since that first theory 3 months ago. and it's only a third video since then bro is definitely making his name in the community
@randomrhombeses47594 күн бұрын
He’s been making theories for over 2 years 😑
@HyperDroid3 күн бұрын
THANK YOU! THAT'S THE GOAL, only peak content from here, quality > quantity it's gonna get so good in 2025 just you wait
@kiaraw.14363 күн бұрын
ALSO, with Mike being the one helping with the last letter to both puzzles, it parallels how Michael wants to help both Cassidy and his brother to reach their end, end of their suffering, of their limbo, of their torment with freeing their spirits. Kinda poetic.
@Exquisitecitrus4 күн бұрын
As if the theroy wasn't good and solid enough with just the first video (it was), here's a second video to back up the theory even more. Honestly calling it a theory (essentially at this point) just feels like an understatement. I think it's a borderline fact. Once again, well done Hyper Droid
@emmajk74334 күн бұрын
Excellent defense of your argument, with lots of evidence to support it. I am convinced and impressed.
@RFDN03 күн бұрын
Mike "knowing" Cassidy's name could imply that Dave and Cassidy actually knew each other.
@LozinlimboКүн бұрын
Incredible point.
@poleznaakola4 күн бұрын
I couldn't agree with your theory more! I actually believed it right away, because this makes so much sense, it's really hard to believe only few people in the whole fnaf community came up with this solution. You did an amazing job, Hyper Droid!
@Arkham13v3 күн бұрын
As much as it makes sense, it's gonna be hard to not called it the Crying Child anymore. It just sounds much cooler in my head.
@Sploobicious3 күн бұрын
It's kind of like how a lot of us still call Afton purple guy because we like the name more
@sswapy4 күн бұрын
I like the fact that it starts with the FREDBEAR Plush to get the 'E' And it ends with the FREDBEAR drawing to get the 'D' Peak video Hyper Droid, keep doing this 👍
@Iffem3 күн бұрын
and they're in opposite bottom corners
@HyperDroid3 күн бұрын
didn't even think about that that's a good point it's literally like Nightmare Foxy in FNAF 4 lol, normal plush -> nightmare version
@sswapy3 күн бұрын
@@HyperDroid OMG YOU'RE RIGHT! That's a very cool parallel 😆
@iAmReeseStreams4 күн бұрын
peak video, cant believe we all FINALLY have a name for the crying child after so many years 🙏
@Crafty_kait3 күн бұрын
Hey I like your content
@johnjordan2113 күн бұрын
We had it for like for 4 years
@Sploobicious3 күн бұрын
@@johnjordan211 oh yeah that's true
@HyperDroid3 күн бұрын
peak recognises peak THANK YOU, and yes FINALLY 🙏
@longfishy3 күн бұрын
@@johnjordan211 Yes, it is important to highlight this. He did solve it himself, but he wasn't the first. Hats off to those people.
@modmaker76172 күн бұрын
Gotta love the Dave theory is the LAST FNAF theory approved by MatPat before he retired from GTLive.
@kiaraw.14364 күн бұрын
Not gonna lie, with Cassidy's puzzle being more complicated than the crying child, it kinda matches their personalities a little doesn't it? I mean, we don't know much about them personally, but Cassidy seems more active, less passive, we know she's angry and keeps William alive at any cost, she's very emotional. While the Crying child definitely would be more meek, keeping himself in line, just like his puzzle keeps to the same rules. Just a little thing that seemed curious to me, great video btw!
@kiaraw.14363 күн бұрын
@Trontotario ok I'll just nod and agree because I definitely don't want to start arguing about book characters being canon or not for the games. I couldn't care less about being right with how chaotic is the frenchise 😅... So yeah, debunked.
@EmotianalBrat3 күн бұрын
@@Trontotariono it didn’t? FLAF confirmed Tales being Canon. There’s no way frights can be as canon as tales it will ruin the whole thing. We also know that Golden duo was confirmed in TWB and the only two possible spirits that can be in there are BV(Dave) and Cassidy as said in the logbook. But whatever I also don’t want to argue so sure Andrew is TOYSHK
@Trontotario3 күн бұрын
@ the week before didn’t confirm GoldenDuo it in fact confirms ShatterVictim or GoldenConduit. Also Tales and frights are canon because of the story frailty.
@EmotianalBrat3 күн бұрын
@ I don’t think that alll of tales is completely 1:1 so that’s why I’m ignoring fraility for now. Yes but TWB does imply that there are atleast 1 or two inside GF. Idk this is my opinion I don’t really wanna argue abt it anymore. Have a good day!
@Trontotario3 күн бұрын
@ They are all canon stop denying it. The week before confirms ShatterVictim since the crying child’s memories are haunting Freddy’s. We literally hear a recording of that said memory. Anyways yeah you’re wrong so goodbye 👋👋
@limegreenlive78134 күн бұрын
This time, the theoy shall convince more!
@the_godbodor70263 күн бұрын
Mike needing to help with the final letter in both names I think adds even more credibility as it’s showing him helping these two kids remember themselves, which is required for them to be able to move on and that is the goal we all agree Michael has, to help the kids souls finally pass on.
@sk45343 күн бұрын
I believe I have the solution that explains the conversational language between Cassidy and David. Most theories I see go about the responses in the logbook being a Question/Answer solution (Cassidy asking the question, and David responding), but I believe it is the opposite. Cassidy, going through the book, notices statements made by another spirit (by altering the text), and then proceeds to try and ask follow up questions, some of which by using book relevant visual ques (Book images/Mike’s drawings): “I’m scared” -> “Do you still have dreams?” “I can’t see” -> “What do you see?” “It was for me” -> “The party was for you” “I can hear sounds” -> “Does he still talk to you?” In a literal sense, Cassidy, a child spirit, is interacting/writing responses, based on the text information provided (David’s statements) in a Children’s Activity Book. Great work HyperDroid, and the rest of the FNAF community who helped work out Crying Child’s name! (Edit: I realized that, in order to use visual cues, Cassidy would have to know who the spirit is that they’re interacting with. This would then mean that Cassidy knew who they were talking to [David], and was helping him [as well as potentially Mike/the reader] to remember who he is/what his name is.)
@Creeper_Hacks4 күн бұрын
Yeah I'm convinced with this theory lmao. I was a bit iffy on it when I watched your original video on the logbook but now that you've said this, I think its just a straight up fact honestly. Like even right now, I'm trying insanely hard to find SOMETHING in the theory that doesn't make sense and I can't think of anything. Which is an insanely impressive feat consider this is FNaF lol. Good job!
@HyperDroid3 күн бұрын
THANK YOU SO MUCH! :D
@KStarPRКүн бұрын
With Cassidy's 11-12 questions only having 4* answers- there's an interesting detail. Dave only answers 4 of the 11 questions if you don't count "My Name" and potentially 5 of the 12 if you do count it. How many questions/statements does that leave behind? 7- the amount of letters in Cassidy's name. I'm sorta a FNAF bystander, watching from a distance- so idk if this is anything crazy, but it's interesting at the very least.
@MayaKetchum22 сағат бұрын
I think the major issue people have with connecting "Do you have dreams?" with "I'm scared" is that these are adults trying to solve something and as adults we know that there's a difference between a dream and a nightmare, and they completely forget that it's a child responding to a question, a young child may refer to a nightmare as "a bad dream" because they don't know the word nightmare yet.
@Spencycle3 күн бұрын
This is not only making me gain appreciation for the Dave theory, but for the Logbook. Wow, that is some really clever puzzle-making!
@EmotianalBrat4 күн бұрын
Yup makes sense to me. I was already convinced but I’m even MORE convinced !
@NaiFarang2 күн бұрын
You turned a A tier theory to a S tier theory....congrats mate!
@phantommoon113 күн бұрын
I want to add support onto this theory, as it’s something I’ve been thinking about since talesgames got confirmed with Edwin and his son, along with tiger rock. I think Dave/David Afton being the crying child’s name is only further supported by the fact that Edwin’s son is named David. You mentioned Dave Miller already, but if you recall there’s a David mentioned on one of the drawings in the fnaf movie, holding a party balloon, of course connecting the Dave/David Afton and his birthday. I wouldn’t be surprised if William named one of his kids after Edwin’s son, who so happens to have the same name. William, as we know, is an incredibly jealous person and would most likely do something like that to get back at Edwin, like how he killed Charlie to teach Henry a lesson. Why not do the same by naming his last kid after Edwin’s son who died? That would definitely make William feel superior. Another thing is that Edwin actually serves as a parallel/connection to both Henry and William, not just Henry like we thought. Like Henry, he’s an engineer, an inventor that goes on to influence future creations, while like William, he suffers from the loss of his son, who died in a tragic accident, becoming abusive as a result. I don’t think it’s a coincidence that both William and Edwin have a son named David, but that’s just me. Scott reuses names a lot, which in my opinion tells us how important a specific name is to the series. I really think talesgames being confirmed only further proves the Dave/David Afton “theory”. I’d like to add one more thing: both David’s are the reason why the events in fnaf happen in the first place; they fuel the mimic and William’s motivations as the core villains of the franchise, William for the original 6 games and the mimic for the modern games
@destinywillowleaf2194 күн бұрын
...unless i'm counting wrong i think if you take the coordinates in the other order (down then over) and rearrange the resultant letters you can get FROG. which probably doesn't mean anything but it's kinda funny that it happens anyway (unless something something it's a connection to Happy Frog and possibly then by extension the one you should not have killed switching around what they mediocres were supposed to say... but it's probably just a coincidence)
@HyperDroid3 күн бұрын
the Crying Child possesses Happy Frog confirmed
@MagolorMasterCrown4 күн бұрын
Wow. You somehow made me more convinced.
@HB81509Күн бұрын
Theory: FNaF has wierd parents and the real names are Evad and Ydissac
@CDE94 күн бұрын
"Do u have a dream,im scared, nightmare fredbear drawing",this refers to fnaf 4 being dave's nightmare. "Do u still hear him, do you see ,i cant see" refers to both spirits controlling golden freddy ,one can hear and control, one can see.
@Mike142643 күн бұрын
That realization of how Cassidy's solution is actually more convoluted than Dave's... ...feels similar to when I realized that in FNaF 2, the Phone Guy never tells you that you should be faster at putting on the mask for the Withereds, and that's something Markiplier stumbled onto after being killed by W. Bonnie and W. Chica for about a video and a half. He just found the solution, we all saw it and accepted it as the default and the sensible thing to do, and now every time we play a fangame with a mask mechanic, we all put it on as quickly as possible, mainly due to PTSD, even if the game has no reaction time mechanics or at least not to such a ridiculous degree. And like, yeah, I know it sounds intuitive that you should put the mask on to hide from their sight as fast as possible, but with how lax Toy Freddy is (the only one that works just like the Withereds, weirdly enough), you don't really have a true reason to rush it. But the main factor for why Mark took so long wasn't even because the Phone Guy said nothing. It's how his reaction and its consequences were showcased. When you manage to trick Toy Freddy or a Withered into leaving, the screen flashes for a bit, and they disappear. When you don't do it in time, the sceeen flashes for a bit, and they disappear... and _then_ you get jumpscared after lifting the monitor. The winning outcome is presented to you in the same way as the losing outcome, so it makes things startling for you, definitely, but also kind of unclear. I mean, if it took Mark a whole video and the halfway point of the next one to think about putting the mask on more quickly, something was definitely lost in translation. And in terms of underexplained mechanics, here's one that's also really underutilized: the camera lights. To think those were the key for making FNaF 2's 10/20 mode beatable with 0% of RNG is kinda funny. Makes me wonder if Scott had meant them to play a more prominent role in the game. Well, if only the music box didn't wind down so quickly, maybe they would. And even then, the mask is already a serviceable safety net, so there's less given reason to use the lights lol
@keirstenduren71884 күн бұрын
3:35 this has actually ALWAYS bothered me especially with the issue with finding “Evan” being inconsistent
@claudiomarvel2 күн бұрын
Ah yes, Golden Freddy, or as I like to call them, Cassidave
@StaleTideКүн бұрын
goldenduo 🤮
@Steve-1234816 сағат бұрын
@@StaleTide 🤨????
@AceShredda2 күн бұрын
Why does no one consider the fact that “I can hear sounds” is a valid response to “Does he still talk to you”? The character saying that they can hear sounds basically just says they don’t hear a voice or language but they are still hearing something, which could be a form of communication from whoever “he” is or just some type of noise in general. If such a scary situation was happening to someone they aren’t going to just say “no I don’t hear someone talking” and just not say anything about the other noise they are hearing.
@AceShredda2 күн бұрын
Also I’d like to bring up the fact that Dave is easy to find, whereas Cassidy is hard to find which once again plays into them being opposites point.
@PeepoDJ19 сағат бұрын
Dave Cassidy was a singer/actor famous in the 70s, 80s.Partridge Family, Not sure if this was intended or not
@SlyphKitty3 күн бұрын
11 Statements and we get 11 letters 7 for Cassidy and 4 for Dave another clue
@Nguyenzander4 күн бұрын
Have you tried switching the page numbers around for the location? Like instead of doing down, then across, do across then down. Or the opposite of whatever is actually used, I'm not sure.
@MildWilliam12 сағат бұрын
I really, really think we should reevaluate if Cassidy is the Fifth Missing Child. The evidence is way too flimsy for us to be so certain.
@Kubaxwot3 күн бұрын
"How we get Dave is actually more consistent and solid than how we get Cassidy" OH YEAH BROTHER YOU COOKED WITH THIS ONE
@MrFell.4 күн бұрын
This video feels like Hyperdroid just spelling it all out for the dumb ones thay didn't comprehend this
@EddmondXD_0034 күн бұрын
oi 😼
@MrFell.4 күн бұрын
@EddmondXD_003 Why the fuck are you here
@HyperDroid3 күн бұрын
😭😭😭
@MrFell.3 күн бұрын
@@HyperDroid LMAO-
@silivrengamer4 күн бұрын
I’m all about that last arguement. The classic Sherlock Holmes: when you’ve eliminated the impossible, whatever is left, no matter how improbable, must be the truth. The fact is that people don’t want an answer that works and benefits them when it doesn’t align with their ideals. It’s a microcosm for US politics right now. Lol
@Slyme_714 сағат бұрын
I genuinely don't see a single hole in this theory. No stretches, no weird logic, not pulling clues from weird places. Amazing job my man
@jonashannes37932 күн бұрын
11:55 "Game Theory cough cough sry got smth in my throat"
@thepancakewizard3 күн бұрын
On the topic of the two names almost mirroring each other, the constant emphasis on the word “Reflect” further proves your theory!
@RedFoxes5403 күн бұрын
I love that Mike has to help both of them help each other remember. Super Poetic. I think you nailed this theory!
@dinoshi643 күн бұрын
That Mike helping the kids remember their final letter thing is the nail in the coffin for me, great observation
@DrummerJosh4 күн бұрын
I was already pretty sure, but with all those connections, the visual hints, and the fact that Mike helps with the last letter of both, it's as close to fact as most theories will ever be.
@timeturnerdust60933 күн бұрын
It's cool is that Mike prompts the "opposite" letter of each of the kids' names; the Y in Cassidy is the final letter, and the D in Dave is the first letter It's also interesting that in the sequence we're given, it's the final letter of both names that is solved by Mike
@thepopeofpineapples62754 күн бұрын
HERE WE GO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
@FNaFedtothebone19834 күн бұрын
I already know it will be an absolute PEAK!!! 🎉🎉🎉
@LoftwingPursuit3 күн бұрын
Maybe this is just me as an autistic person with a funky lil brain, but the answer to "Do you have dreams?" being "I'm sacred." always made perfect sense to me. It's still a legitimate answer in every which way, just an unusual one Not to mention... I just think it works with how children tend to talk anyway? They can be quite nonsensical with how they talk because they're still learning, growing & trying to understand language. They say things in a way that makes perfect sense to their young minds but might come across a little odd to us, more fully grown adults. In a way we have to interpret their language as though we were speaking two completely different ones "Do you have dreams?" "I'm scared." basically translates to "I experience dreams and they scare me." that's an answer a child would give without directly responding with a 'yes' or a 'no'
@ReaganRayden3 күн бұрын
I feel like the community has gaslit itself to overthink everything so much that even simple solutions appearing complicated even slightly makes them disbelieve theories. Or worse they drown out a plausible theory because they just really really like a different theory better narratively. Or even worse they do this subconsciously without even realizing that's the inward reason they disregard a theory.
@khjwyxzКүн бұрын
My only real contention with this theory is Garrett. We already had example of character named in other continuity, and being the correct one in the games. the movie itself wants to solidify and correct some theories, like mike working at the FNaF 1 location, possibly Vanessa being an Afton, possibly showing GF as the "kipnapper" in MM. So why should be the CC name different? And not that is too different of a character (at least from what we see) to not follow this pattern. Even Abby is a 4th wall clue to being Baby anagram, so why not Garrett? Other than that, the theory is the best theory using the Logbook, so congrats : )
@oliver18204 күн бұрын
Glad u acknowledged the screenplay part 😅
@christophermartin1315Күн бұрын
I always thought the addition of the nightmare drawing made total sense. A nightmare is a scary drean. It seems very straight forward. I never got people saying it was grasping at straws.
@fallenheart34 күн бұрын
I already agreed with you in the previous video but this makes it a much more solid theory than it already was! Great video too
@maysar41592 күн бұрын
I always thought that Cassidy's felt more like the stretch, its always irked me that some solutions are deemed "too complicated" or "unrealistic" yet everyone accepts Cassidy (and Scott has confirmed it, making it even clearer that odd solutions are more reasonable than you think)
@kalifogg66105 сағат бұрын
I believe it was Game Theory that said that if you use the page numbers for the questions you either don’t get a letter because the second letter is a zero or you don’t get a name. But context clues also work
@jtreview7506Күн бұрын
What’s weird to me is that if Mike helps figure out a letter to both names, that means that he knows both the spirits. Dave makes sense because it would be his younger brother, but Cassidy doesn’t because they are just some random child that Afton killed. Unless you subscribe to the theory that the puppet/Henry’s daughter is named Cassidy in the game verse, meaning that it makes sense for Mike to know their name to, since Henry and Afton were work partners and their families would probably know each other
@ezdispenser3 күн бұрын
i always wondered if "i can hear sounds" was an answer to "what do you see?", but "what do you see?" being under a mirror means "i can't see" would make more sense
@kartaan15093 күн бұрын
I think so many people questioned or denied this theory because it's so obvious and the fact everyone missed it for YEARS is frustrating
@limegreenlive78133 күн бұрын
I know that I've been sticking to this theory longer than you but now that the TalesGames has been a thing, it means there are two Daves: David Murray and David Afton (if David is the longer version of Dave). It feels weird to have to David's in one lore universe right?
@soldiersgr99610 сағат бұрын
Earnt my sub man, you did a fantastic job on this and hope to see more of you
@anhurtorrez2 күн бұрын
I watched your last video and I agreed with you on it, than you put this out and I noticed something that has been mentioned before from other theorist about 2 people possessing Golden Freddy. From what you was saying it makes perfect sense, and if people remember the ending stories from the Faze Bear Freights and how 2 possessed the stitch wraith makes it really compelling argument. Not to mention if you listen to some of their discussions sounds like some of these where one can not see, while the other can.
@angelicdonuts4 күн бұрын
Honestly the thing that made me really buy the Dave name was its biblical (?) connection to the name Mike/Michael. I think just the two brothers in fnaf, a game made by a very Christian man, having the names Mike/Michael and Dave/David (probably at least) just makes sense.
@SilvaShadow19904 күн бұрын
This, highly supported. I thought of the same thing because remember Scott doesn't do coincidences.
@Trontotario4 күн бұрын
Then why didn’t Scott choose a biblical name for the crying child stand in for the movie? Why William, Henry or Charlie? They aren’t biblical.
@Trontotario4 күн бұрын
@@SilvaShadow1990Also for the coincidence part the reason why the Evan theory was so popular was because it was the name of Jake’s dad who also has a brother named Michael.
@pinkcupcake47173 күн бұрын
And, for English children born in the 70s-80s, they make perfect sense. Michael, David, and Elizabeth were all extremely popular at the time, which is why the names sound a bit old-fashioned to young ears. Those are names your dads or aunts or other Gen X Adults (TM) have.
@HyperDroid3 күн бұрын
agreed on this whole thing too but I also don't know too much about that stuff and do NOT wanna get any of that wrong so didn't add it to any of the videos 😅
@horsesnivy47482 күн бұрын
In the book the silver eyes Charlie's dad describes one of his projects as "Be loved" the same meaning as David.
@scott-steverump8111Күн бұрын
I never Had an odd feeling with "I am scared" as the answer to "Do you still have Dreams?" Like Bro is scared to dream after being bit by fredbear easy as that
@magsjo4 сағат бұрын
The downside of his name not being Evan means i can't make jokes about it with my friend Evan
@atheahatshizume6583 күн бұрын
Funny enough how we solved the complicated puzzle first and then spent 10 years on the most simple puzzle of the book
@jonashannes37932 күн бұрын
12:43 Part II It's a big change in the quality and you notice it right away thank you for your effort
@lwi73383 күн бұрын
The sequel we didn’t hope to get but needed
@kenna1up20 сағат бұрын
i LOVE the intense background music
@AloneTheorist2 күн бұрын
Wouldn't this mean these two are in the remnant Mike was implanted with in SL? The scooper implants remnant automatically as it swings, breaking through outer layers to do so. For Baby to revive him, Mike's skin would need both the endoskeleton pieces missing from Ennard's dispersal and a charge of remnant. They are also affecting Mike's book as he is writing in it and maybe even him in the cases of some drawings. Also why didn't Dave attend the party of happiest day in Fnaf 3? Although assumptive, since Cassidy and Charlotte are already at the party before you rescue the other guests, you end up with 6 guests and a Cake. If you fully complete; BB's air adventure, Mangle's quest, Chica's party, Stage 01 and RXQWFSC's mini game, you get a guest for the party. Yet strangely the guest RXQWFSC rescues, a darker coloured spirit IS NOT present at the party DESPITE being handed a cake. The four bright white spirits with grey tears join the party yet RWXQFSC's saved soul does not. Remember Charlotte and Cassidy are already there when you enter the happiest day mini game, so they can't be rescued. So why doesn't the shadowy soul of Dave go? In the logbook Cassidy tells him specifically "The party was for you." Meaning She and Charlotte were trying to help him. Why exactly didn't he go? The ONLY reason I have is that this was the moment he became TOYSHK. UCN is a living nightmare made by one little boy for the sole purpose of making William Afton suffer. It appears to be made of memories, particularly this boy's memories of suffering and agony. It also contains heavy connections to Fnaf 4 and World, 2 games associated with the memories of Dave Afton. It's Toy Chica intermission even ties the scene of Fnaf 4's night 6 mini game to the events of midnight motorist, as a sort of day(Fnaf 4, night 6 mini game) and night (Later that night, Midnight Motorist) event pairing with a Statement.
@AloneTheorist2 күн бұрын
Sorry for the Wall of text.😅 I just didn't fancy leaving 3-4 comments to say what I wanted to. If you'd like to query any section of my comment, I'll try to keep my replies as brief as I can. (Some topics may have more evidence than others or require multiple games to be spoken of, so may take longer to explain.)
@landonvang67053 күн бұрын
I agree and I think this is a great theory, only problem I can see is people are going to say “Nuh uh” or something like that (mainly to the “I’m scared” response) it’s just mighty unfortunate
@justaviewer0003 күн бұрын
With this theory at hand, I'm sold to it being Dave. Idc if other disagree but I truly believe this is solid enough. No questions required.
@seijiren51153 күн бұрын
Bravo man, this became really solid
@somedude635123 сағат бұрын
I feel like the biggest problem people have with the Dave theory is that it's actually TOO simple. They can't accept that such a big mystery was unsolved for so long when it was that easy. Or that it was so easy when Cassidy was harder and messier. Personally I fully agree with it though and Dave/David seems extremely plausible
@creatorsoulchan31 минут бұрын
the thing i find funny about his name being dave is ppl used to call michael david before yknow, scott revealed his name.
@porcelainchips6061Күн бұрын
The party "was" for you. Is it possible that Happiest Day was suppose to be for Dave, but was given to Cassidy instead? Scott, in his 6 games (it has been said repeatedly that he is retired and that Steel Wool is in charge of their own narrative at this point) liked to really focus on using the exercise of playing through a gameplay sequence as part of the storytelling. Is it possible that happiest day kept "happening" but didn't actually complete, because all the correct flags weren't triggered yet? We have to play through and cause the flags to trigger in all the arcade games, to then cause Happiest Day to trigger successfully so we can get the good ending. You can go into the room; you can see everything lined up, but if you didn't do all the bits the cake and final animation doesn't happen. Could the logbook be showing us how Mike had to get involved to make everything actually happen? Is it possible the log book alerted him to the existence of the ghosts, which then allowed him to figure out how to trigger happiest day?
@Nightmare_quest2 күн бұрын
I feel like the question and answer is backwards. It seems more sound when you say. 'i can hear sounds' then 'does he still talk to you'. Or 'it was for me' then 'the party was for you' but that falls apart at the 'do you have dreams' and 'im scared' cause fliping the order doesn't do much. Or the 'what do you see' to 'i cant see' which is already sound on its own. i dont know if someone has already brought that up somewhere. But it just sounds better i guess. You did super awesome, even if some don't like it.
@F3lipe-u8x2 күн бұрын
So basically Cassidy: Yo Michael, help me out here with Dave's acquired memory loss (which you directly contributed to) ☺️
@Killtakis4 күн бұрын
Yes, there is a 2 part !!!!!
@ch0irmast3r4 күн бұрын
Afton really be doin Undercover Boss with his son’s name
@Fllie-ISyourBestie3 күн бұрын
I like that he said everyone overlooked the part with Michael being the one to solve the final letter... NOT TRUE I commented on the game theory video on his video and pointed this OUT and I'm sure others have as well so If you guys wanna go and find game theory's video and find my comment you can because I went more in depth on this
@Fllie-ISyourBestie3 күн бұрын
I am only a little upset on this because he did watch game theory's reaction to his video since hyper droid commented but maybe he didn't see it I didn't have much replies and only had about 500 likes on it
@Fllie-ISyourBestie3 күн бұрын
I even checked with a different account and my comment was in the top comments
@gabrielortiz3811Күн бұрын
Baller theory. No other words needed.
@Queen_Audrey18032 күн бұрын
HES AT IT AGAIN
@Finnijk3 күн бұрын
Full respect to you but people like you who just figure out super complicated stuff is just crazy like just a different brain that solves things. Reminds me of like Cod Zombies stuff like sometimes things are so complicated it makes you think like how did you guys figure this stuff out.
@djuv43752 күн бұрын
I accept Dave as a name. It's alot better than people calling him cici. Also, I guess it makes sense, since one is vengeful, and the other one moving on.
@Myrsky-s2f11 сағат бұрын
I already agreed with the theory but now I'm 99%convinced
@teasteel49003 күн бұрын
yeah, it makes sense. Crazy how people missed this over how many years?
@NobodyUndefined2 күн бұрын
4:39 and this is why I hate the FNaF fandom, sorry not sorry but it's full of idiots. People criticize Scott for making the game too hard to understand but it's definitely 50/50 with difficult lore and a fandom who can't make their minds up.
@ZAWGREAL4 күн бұрын
Its time
@TheGreatBadCat3 күн бұрын
This is gonna sound crazy, but I think this actually made me feel less confident in this theory somehow