I Tested EVERY Kind of Buildplate... Which is right for you?

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Күн бұрын

Thank you for watching.
All of these various buildplates have their indvididual strengths and weaknesses. Of the bunch my favorite are G10 and Smooth PEI as mutlipurpose buildplates and the supertak buildplate for doing lots of PLA and PETG printing.
Here are links to each of the buildplates :
Textured and Smooth PEI, and supertak (aff): shareasale.com...
PEX: www.whambamsys...
Cryogrip: biqu.equipment...
REAL carbon fiber and G10: darkmoon3d.com...
Most of these builplates were provided by the company who manufacturers them however this video has no sponsor.

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@LiqdPT Ай бұрын

May I suggest having chapter markers so that a) people can skip around b) we can remember what plate you're talking about at the time. I've had to go back several times because you said something and I thought "wait, which plate is this?"

@RyanMercer Ай бұрын

🤘whew, I can cross making that video off my list now haha. I bought a ton of plates and then was like "ehhhhhhhh"

@marcoantoniazzi1890 Ай бұрын

If you make some serious testing with objects that stress the adhesion (too much or too little), then , please, do it. The surface finish under a benchy is not enough to judge a plate IMHO.

@brianwaterman8185 24 күн бұрын

I swear by the smooth pei. No glue, iso 99 wipe before every print. It's funny how many people just brush over the smooth pei. Ive tried so many other plates and I always end up back with it. I love the finish. Great video covering the pros and cons of each main plate type.

@therealjamesmartin 19 сағат бұрын

Ditto! For multicolour stuff where you want text, printing that face down on smooth PEI is incredible. I also skip the glue, even with petg. I've found switching plates and leaving it out to cool properly before trying to get it off is fine.

@furushokun 8 күн бұрын

thank you, I didn't know what to buy to start, I'm going with the cool supertack

@ivotouart Ай бұрын

That G10 sounds exciting as I doubt I'll be printing anything fancier for a while and I definitely like the sound of "no glue necessary". Already have the BIQU CryoGrip Frostbite which I think is quite fantastic for PLA & PETG.

@awildridehome9469 Ай бұрын

Darkmoon needs to make their Carbon Fiber and G10 plates for the Qidi printers. They’re specifically built for engineering materials, so both their plates would fit far better there than the Bambu printers that can’t even go above 300-320C nozzle.

@marine6680 28 күн бұрын

I am liking the new Creality Epoxy Resin build plate. It has very good adhesion. You need to let the parts actually cool off to get them off the bed easier, if they are warm it is a bit more difficult to get parts to release. It leaves a smooth satin finish on the bottom, which I like a lot. It looks similar to the super tack... But the Creality Epoxy bed works with many filaments. I use it for ABS without issues. I think I used it with nylon as well, but I cannot remember for sure as I do have a plate I use for nylon only which is a textured PEI with Magigoo glue for PA/nylon.

@mariusuldukis1566 Ай бұрын

You can do hilbert curve for top surface to sort of match the pattern of bottom layer of textured pei plate. I mean it's not the same, but significantly better looking than monotonic line. Even on smooth plate monotonic line looks bad, I tend to avoid it. Hilbert curve slows down print process if print has a lot of top surfaces, but it looks intentional, like a manufactured part. Whereas monotonic line looks cheap.

@christopherhughes6519 Ай бұрын

When I first started 3d printing with a used Prusa I had a lot of issues and tried glue sticks on the smooth plates. Like your application of the glue stick it was a mess. I switched to Elmers liquid school glue which it thinned with a little water and applied with a micro fiber cloth. It worked great, smooth and lasted at least week before reapplying. A friend told me to lightly sand the plate with wet 600 grit and try going glue free, worked great. The plate had been used in a print farm, no telling how old. I haven't used glue sticks in years as I have found that a plate wiped with IPA right before the print works perfectly for me printing PLA and PETG. Your results may vary

@DisenchantedWithSociety 20 күн бұрын

What kind of plate is that works with PETG with just IPA wipe and no glue?

@MrSoundChaos Ай бұрын

So good to hear someone else mention PEI doesn't stick for them. I just get gaslit non-stop with people insulting me saying its still dirty, my axis is wrong, im doing wrong temps, etc.. but if the conditions are not absolutely perfect, zero dust, no alcohol residue, no previous print residue, etc.. it can occasionally work as long as i do 15mm brims on everything. My best so far is the Supertak style cool plates. Sticks perfect every time, but never too hard to remove for PLA/PETG. Allows me to finally close the P1S door too. Only complaint is cleaning. Its not safe to clean with lots of solvents or even iso alcohol and it's texture grips paper towels and microfiber cloths, and peels fibers off that stick to the plate.

@cutterboard4144 Ай бұрын

0:25 "Kyro"grip? Are those plates from Egypt? ^^

@makintosh... 19 күн бұрын

Cryo* but no it’s mostly in china

@pavelperina7629 Ай бұрын

Thanks. I don't care much about energy, as it's kind of low with 100W power consumption, plate would take thousands hour to repay and energy is not cheap where I live. I tried only textured PEI, although I have smooth PEI for two weeks, my only issue with this surface is that it needs thorough cleaning by detergent and brush every ten prints or so and I have problem with adhesion of both PLA and PETG - sometimes longer parts bend upwards and detach at long ends. It's hard to predict what "longer part" means, it could be 4x6cm 2mm thick perimeter wall, it could be 3x15cm filled rectangle.

@Denis_v1.0_beta Ай бұрын

I have most of the plates you tested, with the exception of the Wham Bam & Dark Moon. The two plates I use the most are the BBL SmartTack and the CryoGrip Glacier. The SmartTack is awesome for tall items with a small plate footprint - things just stick without a brim or other supports. The CryoGrip FrostBite is close to the SuperTack in "stickiness". I do find I have better quality first layers with the CryoGrip plates if I use normal textured PEI bed temperatures and not the cooler temperatures recommended for the plates. I print mostly PLA and prefer a smooth satin bottom layer - I' not a fan of the BBL textured PEI plate's bottom surface.

@kristis3755 4 күн бұрын

Wtf is smarttack

@Denis_v1.0_beta 4 күн бұрын

@@kristis3755 My bad. Super Tack.

@victhemagic Ай бұрын

Missed the new honeycombs plates on Ali hehe

@SnakewithaGun Ай бұрын

I already use PEI build plate. I use PLA+ and normally don't have any adhesion issues. Just wet filament issues due to my location next to an ocean and marsh. Too much moisture.

@GMx_1 Ай бұрын

I might have guessed that the Cryogrip plate would have been the no 1 choice. It seems to do well across a wide variety of material's, has great adhesion, lower operating temps... what more could you want? However please note that I am still quite new to this scene and I really don't know shyte about this stuff from experience, only what I have read and heard so far. So what be your opinion on the Cryogrip? Why choose the G10 over it? Also, good video, nicely done. Would be nice to see a graphic showing all the build plate material options and how well each one does for every category of extruded material. Cheers

@dansv3872 22 күн бұрын

So no bed available for flat prints on a 3d farm ?

@AK6T Ай бұрын

Never ever used a glue stick on either Gold rough PEI and Smooth printing PLA, PETG, ABS, ASA, TPU. Never stuck enought that you couldnt get it off and never fell off.

@hamptonmini4204 Ай бұрын

One of the guys in my group chat said he had thousands of hours on his Darkmoon plates. All the offerings on their website wow 🥵

@paytreonsuhks Ай бұрын

did you mention glass plates?

@J-rj9vt Ай бұрын

I love my textured glass plate from Creality. I never have a problem as long as the surface is clean with glass cleaner. The prints pop right off when they cool.

@MikeD0162 Ай бұрын

Hw is so right about the Super Tack except for the removal of models. Let it cool. If you think it's cooled let it go another couple of minutes. It will pop right off the plate. Getting another one once back in stock.

@EngineeringAddiction Ай бұрын

Yeah it’s an amazing plate! I’m surprised about your removal experience though, I’ve let prints cool overnight and still had the same trouble getting them off. Maybes it’s the brand of filament though

@Denis_v1.0_beta Ай бұрын

@EngineeringAddiction Pop the plate and the attached print in the fridge for 30 minutes (or freezer for 15 minutes). This tip applies to any plate.

@ar1axx00xx Ай бұрын

i've heard to never use ISO on a PEI bed

@pavelperina7629 Ай бұрын

Dish washing soap works way better, isopropyl is more comfortable to use, but unreliable.

@MikeKow80 Ай бұрын

You shouldn't have to use gluestick anymore. Just keep you plates clean and you should be ok. If you need something use something like Magigoo.

@MrSoundChaos Ай бұрын

If you keep your plate too clean, it needs glue even more. He is using it as a releasing agent for when things stick too hard and will damage the PEI when pulling off. TPU is a nightmare to release without glue or alcohol application while pulling.

@TheRattleSnake3145 Ай бұрын

How can pex be between pei and pex?

@rodgerbright3764 18 күн бұрын

IMO the glacier is a POS. I spent a day trying to get anything to stick to it, and tossed it immediately.

@pystlz6454 Ай бұрын

Lmao the 3d printer community is so funny ever since Bambu got popular. Everyone and their mother thinks they know something because your printer is smarter than you. Give the guy a break. Most of his info was either right or on the right track

@The_Chillguy7 Ай бұрын

glass?

@yzzoarts Ай бұрын

glass + thin layer of water+sugar (1:1 ratio) adhesion and NOTHING will go off xD

@dedewii8647 Ай бұрын

I don’t mean to offend but why does this guy’s mic make his voice sound like an engine revving up (I actually like it (as I said I’m not tryna offend)

@ZhakRyuu Ай бұрын

Smooth pla has better adhesion than textured mate. Textured is made for ease or release. You are doing something wrong with your smooth sheets.

@MrSoundChaos Ай бұрын

You'd be suprised how many environmental factors can make PEI not work the same in any two locations. Can't always just accuse people of doing something wrong.

@agw5425 Ай бұрын

Is there no print surfaces that you intentionally make stick permanently to your printed part? Many objects you print do not need the bottom to be "clean" and I wonder if a intentionally ruff surface you can stick to your normal print bed with magnets or weak glue but leave attached to the printed part could not give a good result. You could even sand off that base layer if you add a mm or two with solid infill to the base of the printed object. Has nobody ever made such a 1 per print type base?