I Tried 1970s WORLD RECORD Marathon Training in Japan!

[@sweatelite]

"Before the super shoes, the lactate testing, the science... all of that rubbish." - Gold

[@ChrisDrysdale16]

Might have to change the channel tagline... This is all sounding too smart!

[@marisabele6493]

The channel keeps getting more and more interesting and amusing at the same time. I won't be surprised to see soon 100 thousand followers, keep up the good work!

[@SotaMaehara]

reading an entire book in a foreign language via Google translate is dedication

[@Enlightened_Mint]

The one channel where I'll drop whatever else I'm doing to try and watch. Love the dives into Japanese Cultural and just picked up the audio book "The Way of the Runner".

[@MrR0807]

Absolutely love your videos. Binged all of them. Somehow you manage to combine two of my passions. Japanese culture (studied in Japan for a year) and running (although nothing compared to what you are doing). Algorithm doing its job allright. Let's goooo <a href="#" class="seekto" data-time="132">2:12</a> marathon, you got this!!

[@garybiffin7002]

Hey matt fox gave you a shout out as his favourite KZbinr of the year on his podcast 👏👏

[@J.e.f.f.r.e.y]

I just saw Matt fox drop a 40k long run…

[@StephenCurry-cz1zy]

Solid take on the unconventional training method. Definitely can see that mileage is King 👑 Even the late Kelvin Kiptum’s weekly mileage ranged from 250 to 280km. Definitely seeing you heading the right direction and can’t wait to see you PB your next race Jake 🫡

[@icrlp0570]

massively rooting for you - good luck!

[@Tomas346]

Mate your account had become my favorite on KZbin in a very short period. Keep up the good work 👍

[@markusmayer1]

Same here :). Keep it up Jake :)

[@jeru1976]

LOL you're an absolute nutter and I love it!! One of the only youtube channels I'm not skipping through the videos. Maybe it's the curry pan but probably the running content 😅 And seeing Gerard Nijboer topping the ranking back in the day kind of makes me a proud Dutchie 😂

[@Pingolyno]

Love the video and the energy, u got this!

[@Kithkanann]

Just finished reading "The Way of the Runner" thanks to you, Jake. Thank you! That was a fantastic read. Best of luck with the training plan.But don't neglect recovery with that kind of volume and intensity!

[@vayde]

"If you've made it this far in the video, you're probably a real running nerd!" - that made me laugh out loud - I feel seen! Good luck with this it's mega exciting. Just started reading The Way of the Runner by Finn-san!

[@brianmessemer2973]

Great book you’ll love it

[@mcgeoughm3]

COYG! You’ve quickly become my favorite running account, love the humor and seeing you smash this insane volume. Question tho do you regularly incorporate strides anywhere in your weekly routine? Lately I’ve been hearing a lot about how they can have a big impact on improving running economy and top end speed even with just a few strides after an easy run, and those improvements trickle down to slower pace ranges such as marathon pace. Wondering if you are already doing that but just not mentioning it as it’s more of a maintenance thing rather than a dedicated workout. Good luck w the training, excited to follow the journey!

[@RanToJapan]

Up the Arsenal! Cheers mate 🔥 Yeah so actually I do strides before every workout and also hill sprints (4x30 sec) usually 3 times per week after easy runs to try and work on cadence/top end!

[@plklui25]

Train Harder AND Smarter 😂, as a runner myself, your perseverance and consistency made me ashame. Let’s GOO!!

[@Mrdaci1985]

Will be visiting Japan on January, hope to see around there! Best running content!

[@AwesomeJenkins]

This is amazing! I love the history lesson and it also makes your Strava much more insightful. Excited to follow along!! Now we just need some merch!

[@SidSubramaniam-t6h]

Love the video Jake, so informative!! Definitely going to be following your training and incorporating things in mine :D

[@CalFinRuns]

COYG! What an absolute machine, bloody love your channel pal!

[@Notnotcam]

Absolutely CLASS mate

[@jamie-jc2sh]

Great going Jake - some great info on the history of Japanese marathon training here, much of it I’m sure you’ll know already.

[@clairecaulkett4452]

Very interesting! Love your videos. Listened to a podcast with Paula Radcliffe speaking about her training when she broke the world record for the marathon, she said she'd do her long runs for 2 hours 15 minutes. Ended up running London in <a href="#" class="seekto" data-time="135">2:15</a>:25 so maybe it's really that simple and things are too complicated now. Can't wait to follow your training, you're going to nail it! It would be great if you could do 2 videos a week though, one just ain't enough 😂

[@markusmayer1]

Best of luck for the 2nd of march :). I will follow along and cross my fingers for you. And so will many others judging from the comment section :). Keep it up Jake :) !

[@Elias-oh8kn]

You're actually cooking, very interested to see how this training approach works for you, good luck!

[@Ammerstol]

Gotta love the "no-nonsense" and "let's not overcomplicate" approach. It's still a bit of a mystery to me how you manage to recover with 250k weeks.

[@RanToJapan]

Dw that’s the topic for an upcoming vid! 🫡

[@quixotix9540]

​@RanToJapan wait really? ive been wondering that myself since i also have an outlandish elite dream (although in the 5000m, not the marathon 😅)

[@meergo8900]

Not Jake, but I can try and give a qualified guesstimate. You can increase your amount of training about 2-5% every week, so if Jake has been running (semi)-serious for 3 years, and he started out running 15 km pr week, he should be able to run 240-250 km pr week by today. Also you have to take into account his speed is very fast. His 40k in this video is a 2:30. That means he probably runs for 17-20 hours pr. week, which is also manageable to maintain if you're serious - I've been doing 15 hours of triathlon training weekly more than once in my life, and while I was often very, VERY tired and hungry, it was definitly doable. Last, but also one of the most important, Jake is only 27 years old, which means his body is still in its peak physique period. He'll recover much faster naturally, and he's "only" working at an office, has no kids, is living as a pro, so he can make sure he gets enough and right nutrition and enough quality sleep. All those things add up, and makes it possible to maintain 250k a week

[@SoundSpeeding]

It is easy to recover on 250km weeks, because they're your quiet chill recovery weeks in between your 350k weeks

[@SoundSpeeding]

@@meergo8900 yup, it's amazing what your body can handle when you're young and fit. I used to be a bike messenger, thus I might be doing at times 50hrs+ per week on the go on my bike all year round.

[@TheFODRunner]

Makes perfect sense, really excited to see what happens in Tokyo! I often do broken tempo efforts during marathon training and drop in one big longer tempo effort around 15/16 miles around 5 weeks out… I might swap some of these broken tempos with some more “unbroken” ones next time! Hero! Can’t believe you’re an Arsenal fan though 😭

[@RanToJapan]

I’ve experimented with both styles and think the long tempos are just so good for strength in the later stages of a marathon. Could be worth trying a few more out! Sorry to hear that but COME ON YOU GOONERS! 🔴⚪️

[@Jamesthills]

Cool stuff!! Hope you keep us updated with the Iron problem and if the ferritin is helping!

[@charlesmortadella5302]

Soon we will hit the Lionel Sanders Phase 😀 Changing it up every Block and starting from Scratch, i am here for it.

[@tadhgosullivan2794]

Absolute legend. I’m <a href="#" class="seekto" data-time="152">2:32</a> marathoner guy and <a href="#" class="seekto" data-time="930">15:30</a> 5k. Your an absolute demon I love it 🤣🤣 best channel on KZbin and really inspiring

[@us4rnam4]

Another banger vid, keep up, greatings from Brazil

[@AlistairLattimore]

I’m still mind blown at your weekly mileage, bonkers. I think you should ABSOLUTELY find an elite coach, you have all the building blocks to hit your goals but I suspect your mix/approach is letting you down somehow. Avid watcher, go you good thing!

[@steventownley3342]

Cool video looking forward to seeing how it goes.im fully on board with this approach I'm on about 250k a month unfortunately lol so lacking the strength Time to build

[@JohnnyMarathon]

Looking forward to following this training block!

[@samwertheimer4848]

Absolute legend

[@sopiyanchen8945]

Solid.. Hope the training will go Well😊

[@osabthegoat5741]

I see a RanToJapan vid, I click, press Like, and watch. Simple as that

[@ThomasGroves-so3px]

Good luck sounds some mad training sessions hope you pull them off and reach your marathon goal

[@danielparlak]

Strong content, blending in some nice running science.

[@Pothi90]

Will be interesting to follow your expertiment for the next weeks. Good luck 👍

[@OzoneHai1203]

this video is gold

[@RunningOtaku]

Great video! A few years back, I did something similar sharing the training plan of an elite Japanese high school team.

[@samuelbuzek9321]

Loved the video, I will try to apply some of the sessions to my halfmarathon training 😄Also congrats on the 10k win!

[@alax_bruno]

One more amazing video 🎉🎉

[@aqwarel3758]

My favorite bakery 🥯 and the running route along Tamagawa, but at much slower pace 😂

[@sjb_running]

This sounds pretty cool, looking forward to seeing how you progress! Sod all that nasty food though 😂

[@runsohfast]

bloody love this

[@yellowboat8773]

Throwing in the Connor McGregor line was hilarious

[@Leeroy49]

Thank you for that one :) very very intersting.

[@MrSmokedTurkey]

I knew you had a bit of a screw loose, but reading a book through google pictures is insane... lovely video again!

[@wesleytwiggs7687]

Insane? It’s easy. You just need your phone and a book. Anyone can do it.

[@lucaslooi5655]

Love the content Jake, keep it up brother!

[@stevierunner]

Nutter. I subbed

[@vincec5260]

Great content mate :) Good luck with the training :)

[@hazimmohamad6683]

looking better after fixing that iron issue. all the best.

[@ryanw903]

this is awesome more nitty-gritty running stuff and eating please

[@vivpm]

Wasn’t Kiptum supposedly hitting some big mileage in the build up to his WR? Maybe his team saw something in this old school method too! Looking forward to following along on to see how you get on!

[@Ali94749]

Never thought someone who runs a marathon faster than my 1k pr would say they have no speed 😅

[@ictogon]

damn your 1k time is over 2 hours and 17 minutes?

[@Ali94749]

@ictogon pace, not total time lol

[@Ali94749]

@ictogon he runs a marathon somewhere between three minutes 15 seconds and 3 minutes 20 per k I think. I have never ran 1k faster than 3 minutes 25 seconds.

[@noelthatcher1996]

I actually met both Soh twins several times when I emwas in Miyazaki. The day after I blew up in the aAoshima Taiheiyo Marathon in 2.40(!) a mate and I went to watch the Asahikasei team train in Nobeoka. The team had 7 men who had run 2.10 and they did a session of 10x1k averaging around 2.45 with 1 min jog! The story of the 1.25 km run in New Zealand has it that either Shigeru or Takeshi were f***d after 122 km and wanted to call it a day but coach Hiroshima responded that it was the final 3km that was the important bit!😃 Good luck with the training g mate. I absolutely loved my training in Japan and it definitely got me my 5/10k golds in the Atlanta Paralympics

[@RanToJapan]

Oh no way! That’s pretty cool that you’ve been able to mix it with all these old school legends, their training does insane (and I’m all for it 🙌)

[@Ryan_RyRy_Ryan]

Love the channel. You are an Animal! 💪

[@mikes5764]

It's very interesting what you are doing. I also like to experiment with training methods and like the simple ones that seem like common sense. Maybe you could tell how you think about strength work like squads etc. If you are going to train harder and harder, in the end you might prefer recovery above going to the gym for an extra strength session?

[@RanToJapan]

I do S&C and other strengthening stuff a few times every week - I’ll go into detail on it in another video!

[@mikes5764]

@ Thanks, looking forward to your video on S&C!

[@ShinSuperSaiyajin]

<a href="#" class="seekto" data-time="805">13:25</a> WTFFFF 😂😂😂😂😂😂

[@RanToJapan]

Surely I could pass as an American coach?? 😂

[@ShinSuperSaiyajin]

@@RanToJapan definitely 😂😂😂

[@rycabal]

This was the best bit! I swear you were born and raised in California 😂 I mean like, come on guys! Let’s get it--🎉

[@brianmessemer2973]

LMAO 😂

[@kevrunsascott]

1000k a month.....im lucky if I do that a year! absolute beast(or mentalist)

[@alaasoufiani6471]

Tanks for the educational content Jake. The Soh brothers man… legends ! What running podcast do you recommend listening to ? Also, those calculations you threw at the end … that goes against the « train harder not smarter » motto. Just do the Shigeru pace 😂

[@RanToJapan]

If only it was that easy to just ‘do his pace’ 😂 I’ve got sooo many run pods on rotation like Coffee Club, Inside Running, Philosophy of Endurance Running, Run It 3 Ways, Sweatelite, FTK, Sunday Plodcast, Trackstar (and loads more I’m probably forgetting off the top of my head!)

[@paulmacht]

keep posting please 👐🏻

[@deevee1693]

Great fun! <a href="#" class="seekto" data-time="132">2:12</a> incoming! I’d be seeing a twin next to every runner if I was hitting those distances 😅

[@cosmosrunner]

I suggest the Toshihiko seko chapter in ‘Running with the Legends’ - the marathon is my girlfriend. I give her everything I have. Good luck. It’s one thing to know what these guys did, it’s another thing for the body to handle it.

[@MonkeyShoulders1337]

cool video!!

[@askhatsakebaev221]

Great video! Waiting for the another one about the reasons why modern Japanese athletes are not as good as the ones in 70s-80s.

[@jeremialeiss5481]

With iron levels back up you will be flying without getting blind.. or maybe if you repeat that <a href="#" class="seekto" data-time="137">2:17</a> effort probably sub <a href="#" class="seekto" data-time="132">2:12</a> easy

[@dhillonsingh4376]

when you say in <a href="#" class="seekto" data-time="437">7:17</a> arsenal podcast and mma are you listening to aftv podcasts or general football podcast? Loving these video lately and trying to get on my grind to train harder and not smarter 💪

[@RanToJapan]

Arsenal Vision or Arsecast are my usuals!

[@jamesashworth3995]

Well good luck hope you stay injury free,& not go stale. I've coached a few runners but i have to be honest i wouldn't advise them to do what i did.

[@robidoo99]

👆🏻Jimmy won Berlin marathon in the golden era of British marathon running, before anyone discovered zone two. Legend of the game

[@andrewgardner7602]

Nailed the American accent

[@merovekh]

This may be a weird question, but the shirt you've been wearing in several videos is the COOLEST RUNNING SHIRT I've ever seen. It's stunning! Do you have any idea where I could buy it?

[@RanToJapan]

The white/blue wave one? Think I got it on some Japanese football shirt website! Sorry no idea what the name was

[@merovekh]

@@RanToJapan Yeah - that one! It's stellar. Shame. If you happen to remember, I'd be deeply grateful if you replied to this again. Thanks anyway man!

[@andrepohlann]

I am cyclist. Interesting stuff. Japan was in the old days heavily influenced by Lydiard. Looks like his aproach.

[@simonegerardini3209]

<a href="#" class="seekto" data-time="109">1:49</a> what is the title of the book? I’m curious to read it too. Thank you!

[@RanToJapan]

日本のマラソンはなぜダメになったのか　afraid there’s no English title/translation!

[@jammersanimovieblog]

Any concerns or issues in overtraining with such high volume?

[@RanToJapan]

I’m recovery from an Iron deficiency atm so that’s the only real concern - gotta get my levels back up!

[@davidmclucas2970]

Love your videos Jake. Just one correction the world record in 1978 was held by Derek Clayton 2.08.33 which he set in 1969.

[@RanToJapan]

Thanks man! Apparently there’s some discrepancies over that, his was never ratified due to a short course - still ridiculously quick though!

[@trainwellracewell]

I imagine the wasabi in Japan is incredible since the best is grown there

[@user-tl9wo3ru6q]

Haven’t watched the video yet but I’m sure it’s a banger

[@CyclingBlueRidgeMountains]

Checkout On The Run With Beards And Dun podcast - Dick Beardsley (<a href="#" class="seekto" data-time="128">2:08</a>:53) and Mike Dunlap (<a href="#" class="seekto" data-time="138">2:18</a>:26)

[@cyq88]

What is your advise for beginner like me who is just start running? I am trying to run a 10km fun run next April. Hopeful by the end of the year, I can run a half marathon.

[@Archeris]

Take it easy

[@RanToJapan]

Build it up slowly and try to gradually increase the distance of training runs - don’t worry about pace at all. Good luck!

[@icrlp0570]

how is it that this and sport scientist dan nash are my favourite running content - literally polar opposites

[@RanToJapan]

@@icrlp0570 his podcast is actually one of my favourites too 😂

[@yogaforeverybodywiththeord9936]

Where do you get your gels in Japan? And what gels do you use?

[@beautoxt3482]

Maurten

[@RanToJapan]

For training I use Amino Vital gels (Amazon.jp) just cos they’re the cheapest! Only time I’d splash out on Maurten is for a marathon

[@conradburdekin722]

Absolutely thought it said NINTENDO on the chair in the Scran to Japan segment

[@adambarker3130]

I vaguely remeber from Steve Ovett's biography that he had a training buddy, Matt something or other, who did a lot of his training with Steve, but come race day he was left far behind. So, copying someone's training does not guarantee getting the same results. Still, it can't do any harm if your legs hold up.

[@ShinSuperSaiyajin]

The Soh brothers were insane

[@JohnSmith-fe6xk]

Very interesting

[@bantr725]

hi jake! where did you get the bee cap that you use in this video?

[@RanToJapan]

It’s from the uni team I was on in America (SCAD)

[@ЯрославКовальчук-и9ь]

Love the altitude of only looking back and completely ignoring what the opposition did to get faster. So japanese

[@5kribbles]

Great video! I'm not sure it's wise to throw out 50 years of exercise science which has led to faster and faster elite athletes and mid packers, but good luck to you mate, don't get injured 🤖

[@RanToJapan]

I’d argue the shoes have played a massive part in that and I won’t be throwing them away! At the very top the times have improved but in the West, are we really much faster than 30 years ago? The same number of Americans, Brits, Aussies etc. were running sub 2:10 back in the day than they are now (and that’s without the super shoes!)

[@user-rr6jm7rb3b]

I’d argue that actually western marathoners - who are most likely to train according to those 50 years of exercise science - tend to be embarassingly weak compared to what they did in the 70s/80s. If you adjust for super shoes, better fuelling options etc they surely are slower, not faster than they used to be. The white people world record stands at 2:05:36 by Cam Levins (who is known for very high mileage) while Derek Clayton already ran 2:08 back in 1969.

[@onlineo2263]

Shoot for the stars. Just do his training plan until you are as fast as him. With modern super shoes and your ability you will either hit a <a href="#" class="seekto" data-time="129">2:09</a> in the next 18 months and then progress or you won't!

[@LiamRedmondOne]

That’s a dodgy fleece

[@RanToJapan]

*wavy drip 🔥

[@noelthatcher1996]

One other thing. Great as the Soh twins were they still got dusted by Gateshead’s own Charlie Spedding in the ‘84 Olympics:-)

[@GOD-lb2bz]

Dw, he's read 'from last to first' too 😂

[@RanToJapan]

Quality book his one 🔥

[@elijimenez9400]

Bro do you ever have shin splints? And what do you do to recover?

[@RanToJapan]

Never had them but I’d recommend changing shoes to a new pair, running on soft surfaces and working on strengthening/massaging your calves

[@Lelando100]

Curry filled bread in South Africa we call a Vetkoek.

[@kenvyn123]

I’m training for my first marathon at the moment and loving the content! Scram to Japan is a great concept! 🍣

[@corinnenunn8326]

Find it fascinating, although I feel a little dizzy 😅

[@Uchinomesereru]

Yo Jake if you zoom past a bloke in a purple Liverpool training top next time your running the Tama river say Hi!

[@RanToJapan]

I’ll keep an eye out!

[@orangetwelve3462]

😆 'Who the fook is that guy?!" What MMA podcasts you listen to mate?

[@edwardp5748]

taking gels and thinking about recovery eh? sounds pretty new school to me.. once again i would like to point out that the amazing japanese runners of the past (or any runner) would have been faster had they used modern methods. I am old school as well (and win races at age 48), and i am very well aware that if i used more modern methods i would be faster. i just dont care enough to go through the effort. maybe when i am 58 i will have to to keep winning ;)