I tried racing a $379 Amazon special (Cervelo Soloist vs Eurobike)

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[@johnflynn4923]

Eurobike is an absolute stunner. Glad I bought 6 of them to future proof my racing career! It's hard coming last every time but someone's got to do it!

[@defiantparsnip]

Joke's on you, I can come in last on a $10,000 Pinarello. Ineos, I'll take my 30 year contract now thanks!

[@johnhawthorne6763]

You must have the upgraded Eurobike DFL.

[@williamohara8153]

How many times did you ride at 260 watts ? Did you use and out and back course to minimize wind differences?

[@TheVeloVibe_]

That euro bike geometry shaped like Mitch’s spine 😂 (sorry Mitch)

[@voiceofreason9780]

Mitch is in the frightened cat position. Cat's aren't aero! (I apologize for my behavior, Mitch)

[@uncleyemen]

Poor guy is trying his best to get aero on a bike with a too-high stack and a too-short reach 😂

[@DatBoyBMCLance]

😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

[@dave12059]

I only ask this as as question. I understand the used market, being a better choice. What would it take to make a good rider out of it? Upgrade the euro, better tires, rims, shifters and gearing , were would the bike be??? Many years ago I rode a “Sears Freespirit” many thousands of miles. It’s only real flaw was weight, and I still miss the center pull brakes!!! I’ve ridden a Cannondale R1000, and now on my third Trek Madone. Racing is a light weight sport, can that heavy weight be shaved off the frame. Realistically to have a good rider, Or is it already a good rider? To the none racing class.

[@Penalist]

There is a fair risk that after you have upgraded practically everything, the bike is still unpleasantly heavy and that the frame breaks in the near future. Ergo: buy something else.

[@kennethward9530]

It appears Norcal and GCN have both left out a critical test at which the Eurobike would excel, and which is an established genre on KZbin; riding the bike off a dock into a lake (with or without a jump ramp). The Cervelo could not be ridden off the dock in good conscience, while I would predict full send on the Eurobike.

[@gavinhlady873]

well said

[@adamweb]

Sinks 11% faster too!

[@joesguitarshop8194]

Genius!!

[@indorock]

I remember Hank did exactly that.

[@jejesj1377]

As an SJBC rider I personally invite you to come to the WNC. The race is every Wednesday until the last Wednesday in august and racing starts at 6:45pm. Registration ends at 6:30pm so I would recommend getting there around 6. The registration will be in the parking lot outside of LKQ auto parts dismantler. I hope to see you out there!

[@ambulowan]

Should have installed a very agressive long and negative Stem in the Eurobike. Or do the opposite on teh Cervelo, if you can sit like that on the Cervelo that would have been a good test. This way Aero Position will trump a non aero postion on almost every bike. I have seen some Trekking Bike riders on street who sit lower that the avg Road Bike Cyclist and have way better Aero position.

[@poisoned_ivey]

as someone who loves to climb in my 35lbs 30yr old trek i felt your pain on that hill, luckily im ok with just putting it in my 1:0.75 ratio sometimes

[@peterers3]

mitch is fun lmao how he hyped that EURObike

[@julianj9417]

thanks for doing these test videos! i really enjoy your content from an entertainment perspective while being informative.

[@stuartdryer1352]

Train a couple times a week on the Eurobike and watch your FTP and VO2max increase.

[@malletandchisel5154]

So scientific!! Love it. Nice vid. Love the stem shifters. I had those in 1986 on my Huffy 10 Speed. ;)

[@ReptileAssylum]

Picked up a barely used specialized allez expert 2008 aluminum with carbon everything full ultegra with mavic kyserium wheels plus spare set for $300 nzd Rides like a dream. There is no way you can justify the extra 12k I spent on my cervelo r5 di2 dura ace I only use the r5 on weekends now R

[@chuckyfox9284]

I wonder how much of the difference are the tires.

[@markbacani3762]

When I upgraded my tires and tubes to GP5000 and latex, from whatever stock tire my budget 2013 Specialized Allez came with, I easily saved 30-40w around 20mph. The difference was huge. Retest with matching tires!

[@WolfiegangAmil]

Does anyone know the brand of gloves that Mitch(the blue kit guy) was wearing?

[@zombie93]

Jeff, How are you going to let your boy keep that kickstand on?! Haha it completes the look!

[@gbpages55]

Didn't know Owen Wilson rode bikes...

[@meelz812]

I’m sorry, THIRTY SEVEN pounds? Are the tubes not hollow??? 💀

[@davidgiroux6047]

Love the kickstand

[@Sertao2013]

Wouldn't for every day training the Eurobike be the best bike to use because it's weights more ? Wouldn't it make you a stronger rider ? Just save the lighter bike for races only . Couldn't you just put the same gearing on the bike ?

[@iankirkpatrick3280]

I do like the wheels on the Euro bike. I would buy a Euro bike just for the wheels. And; throw the rest away.

[@daveygee434]

Is there a cycling KZbinr on planet earth who hasn’t done cheap v expensive bike? 🛌💤

[@Sam-m6o3j]

Bike stand withstanding 😂

[@bluecomet9722]

Idk if it might be a good idea..How about an episode where you upgrade de Eurobike with better components ant put it against the Cervelo again.

[@aleksandrgoriunov1198]

you found to put a cowboy on a elephant

[@CarsandBikes]

why not test something like a Winspace bike to the Cervelo for a more fair comparison?

[@1ZZFE]

These days people spend money for the brand, look, and vanity.

[@ShakeNBakeUK]

Eurobike vs Cat 3 when? :D

[@pascalbruyere7108]

First thing roadies Sonia to take some dope 😂. Let’s see how the rest goes 😁

[@calmprn7165]

Isnt an aluminium frame only good for 5 years ?

[@lunam7249]

no, all depends on rider weight....aluminum should have a superlong life 20 years, unless crashed or dented tubes

[@eddiemejia8981]

I wouldn't trade my 76 nishiki for any of those new plastic toy bikes. Steel is Real!

[@Iron_Shepherd]

Good for strength training.

[@ThePixelize]

200 fist bumps later ...

[@sirehan1002]

well i would be mad too

[@stephenboshears4832]

You should buy a used bike of similar cost and compare the three

[@randyb59]

Train with the eurobike and punish your opponents with the cervelo

[@annukun7318]

dont have the gearing on the amazon bike you were spinning out try the test again with more top end gears

[@Thomas5937]

I love how they make fun of the ketones and imply they don’t do anything every video yet the sponsorship hasn’t been yanked

[@8584zender]

Well, they do SOMETHING... leave a horrible taste for a while.

[@tyler5246]

it’s been more proven for longer events, not as much crits

[@joesguitarshop8194]

@@tyler5246 what works for crits ?

[@okimy3668]

@@joesguitarshop8194 120g carbs per hour

[@ohhi5237]

they do no such thing, theyre suckers for the ad money! live on slaves live on!

[@nroose]

For this to be fair, you should have put a kickstand on the Cervelo.

[@imacrazyguy5831]

😂

[@mikefj2004]

At that price point, your $7000 “over the top” Cervélo is the new entry level road bike of today 😂

[@djseitz425]

Bit of an exaggeration eh?

[@Dr.Schlitz]

@@djseitz425 A bit of an exaggeration, but $7K puts you in the mid range for pro quality race bikes, definitely not the top. Some top end framesets are selling for $5-6K these days.

[@djseitz425]

@@Dr.Schlitz you can buy a bike with 105 and aluminum wheels for 2500 and have 99.5% of the performance that you would on a 7k bike. I promise it’s not the bike that would be holding you back.

[@chrisnaden]

My bike, which is my first and only road bike, cost me $1800. It’s a no-name Chinese Brand, SAVA. I have dropped many people who have $9000 bikes. It’s more about the engine (person) than the bike , once you pay more than $1,000 for one.

[@Ron-ei5eh]

only 7000 in the US? Damm, I should import that bikes to europe

[@colesims7151]

I have a special place in my heart for euro bikes it was was my first road bike and made me fall in love with cycling so for that I’m grateful

[@JoshuaTootell]

All that matters

[@strammerdetlef]

tbf my first road bike was also in the 400eur range, and I have only good memories with it, so rly anyone who thinks "I cant begin unless I got at least 2k" is just wrong and the people who propose these thoughts are too

[@kinsleysykes5509]

If you had just removed the kickstand, you would have gained a pound and some aero. Need to re-run the test 😆

[@disloyalyou5455]

Not gonna lie Jeff’s fit on the euro bike is pretty clean

[@NorCalCycling]

looks category eurobike wins 😂

[@2XFactor51]

@@NorCalCycling 😮mmmm, no. I’ll take the Cervelo any day. The other bike looks like it belongs at a carnival, or in a parade.

[@honestreviewer3283]

I've studied and worked hard and today am fortunate enough to have four Cervelos in my garage, plus a Pinarello and a Bianchi. Videos like this are funny, sure (everyone's done them), but they leave a sour taste in my mouth because there are a lot of people who'd like to get into cycling but can't afford to, and that totally sucks.

[@profedelasmontanas9023]

I’m just getting into cycling (on a budget). Quick question: why have 4?

[@honestreviewer3283]

@@profedelasmontanas9023 One's a gravel bike, one's my current road bike, one's an older road bike my wife now uses, and one's hanging on the wall beside the Pinarello and Bianchi (which were my race bikes in the 90s). There are lots of great used bikes out there if you're on a budget. And remember to save money for pedals, shoes a helmet and cycling clothes.

[@goodcompanycoffee]

Never take yourself too seriously. Fun video guys.

[@ohhi5237]

cry yourself to sleep for 7000$ for 11% speed

[@connerburton2123]

You should do this again but with the same tires on the bikes! Wonder how much faster the euro bike would be with fast tires

[@lylewalker5681]

It would be interesting to get the cheapest generic tires you can find on the Cervelo, and then the best road tires on the cheap bike. The 35 lbs is kinda hard to overcome, though. That’s just too much.

[@ohhi5237]

@@lylewalker5681 tires matter much much more than the base weightr

[@MultigrainKevinOs]

I demand a rematch, $6000 in upgrades on the eurobike frame. Is it the diamond in the rough no one was looking for??

[@NorCalCycling]

lol, that frame is built like a tank though

[@Anon26335]

Crazy thing is that if eurobike keeps up the pace with its quality, their 1000$ bike would smoke that cervelo and other expensive bikes with its price to performance ratio.

[@ERIK31351]

Since we're on the topic - used Cannondale CAAD bikes are all a great buy. I got a mint 2012 CAAD10 Compact in 2021 during the bike shortage for $1200 CAD, I've put ~5000km on it and it's an absolute dream.

[@renegadetenor]

Got one!

[@waynescheuder6175]

Very few people who watch your channel will actually buy the "EuroBike". How about selling the EuroBike to someone, then actually do a deep dive into the 2nd hand market and give yourself a tight budget. Lets use 1250$ or maybe 1000$ and buy a bike, and then see how you perform. I know it is a lot of money, but the amount of money you can make with the content should be spectacular. Especially if you upgrade that bike "Down the line" with some "speed upgrades". Including power meters "Racing Wheels" Groupset upgrades Tires (Conti vs Vittoria vs xxx) Tubes (Latex vs Normal vs Tubeless) etc etc etc

[@David-nx2vm]

Entertaining video - probably best at showing a real world application of the law of diminishing returns. The Cervelo is obviously a superior machine but most recreational/fitness riders are not considering the Cervelo as a value option - the juice isn’t worth the squeeze for them. As you said, whatever gets “…butts on bikes…” is good.

[@jackspeer2127]

I got into cycling around 2017. bought a Motobecane Supermirage. steel 38 lb. "What's your bike made of?" "French plumbing pipe" Carbon Fibre was everywhere and my bike was the joke of the peleton. I named it Chief Iron Horse -- Fast as a locomotive and just as heavy.Climbing was hard but the rest was pure joy. Got more than my money's worth - $300.00 Rode about 2500 miles per year. Never won a race but could keep up with the advanced peleton on club rides. Good times.

[@1ZZFE]

Bike like this is an inspiration to me. Don't you feel motivated to ride harder? Btw I just got myself a Scott hybrid bike,new to biking and I rode hard when the ideal road conditions are available.

[@joesguitarshop8194]

Great video !! Was wondering if you could do a video on what is the minimal bike , wheels and tires you need to compete in the cat 1/2 field ?

[@NorCalCycling]

great suggestion!

[@tuna_buoy]

A complete bike, right out of the box, straight off the showroom floor: maybe a CAAD13 with mechanical 105?

[@joesguitarshop8194]

@@tuna_buoy yes ! A bike and wheel set that is “good enough” to be competitive in the cat 1-2. “Good enough”

[@sheltonshots]

Remember the old IROC auto races? Drivers from different series in the same spec car. We need a CRIT with everyone on these.

[@okayest_amateur]

HAHA I love this Video!! Can we have the velo king guy on more often, he was hillarious.

[@NorCalCycling]

shoutout MITCH

[@jerrygillen3456]

My God man! At least remove that hideous kick stand from the Eurobike. Great video though. Great laughs.

[@benhao9679]

Honestly this video is way better than GCN😂

[@petef15]

I'm pretty sure only youtubers are buying this bike

[@stephenpalfreyman4755]

I was really hoping that Jeff rode the eurobike in a crit 😆

[@NorCalCycling]

not sure I trust that thing in the corners

[@hartwinfritz]

2:28 why your posture like that? Kindah hunchback.. Compare it to the other guy, much proper/correct.

[@norevlimitr1602]

I actually saw someone riding that exact same Amazon bike yesterday while on my ride. The drivetrain was so loud I heard it across the street going the opposite way.. 😅

[@danielattias1525]

Yea used market is perfect, I agree with you, you can get, a great bike for fraction of what was paid for!

[@laurentitolledo1838]

with a chain ring of 42T-34T-24T and 15kgs weight... the Eurobike is of no competition against a 50T-34T chainring and about 8kgs of the Cervelo Soloist but its will be good as a commuter bike...and after changing/upgrading some of the parts... there will be some performance increase....

[@BeastyBite]

kinda pointless to make a comparison when all the opinions on the cheap bike is just one single irony rant. would love to hear if there is anything good about it, how it really feels how it rides and which parts make sense or don't. why are the rims shit?, why is the gear shifting system shit? why are trispokes shit? so people with no experience can avoid pointless parts.. all we know now is that it's heavy and geared the wrong wy which you can change at any point. instead they just make fun of it, with no meaningful content what so ever.

[@Chimy1423]

Next video...the Cervelo $$$$$$$ bike versus any Chinese $$ brand like Winspace, Yoeleo, Elves with 105 electronic groupset and Chinese wheelset like Ican, hyper wheels or Elite. 🤔

[@JxT1957]

my bike looks exactly like it but mine came with a lightweight aluminum frame, great bike.

[@kimberli3858]

Do this but with the Ozark Trail gravel bike that’s viral rn.

[@charlesjungclaus]

That editing and music at 4:50-5:10 👌

[@tomkunich9401]

Try a Trek Alpha 1.5 or higher. The weight difference is minimal, and the handling is great. I actually liked it better than the Madone.

[@matt_m126]

Coming in a bit late to comment, but footage with 80s type eurobeat music made my day. More of this please! ❤

[@cyndytri]

So fun to see y’all laughing and having a good time. Great video 😊

[@DoctorWho_1979]

Where and when can we get our hands on those slick looking NorCal jerseys? Also, the 80's era soundtrack is brilliant. Excellent choice.

[@NorCalCycling]

We're working on it! this is one of the 'work in progress' designs

[@lunam7249]

thier secret love for the 3spoke came thru loud and clear!!❤❤

[@jacobclayton2954]

I'm fascinated with the 3 spoke. I think I'll get a EUROBIKE anyhow.

[@lunam7249]

@@jacobclayton2954 thats an ok bike, but its heavy, spend more for the aluminum frame eurobike OR just buy used , $300 - $400 buys good stuff on offer up

[@devianb]

I'd like to see the Eurobike return for another test with lighter wheels and bigger front chainring.

[@SyLens1]

Alviso on the eurobike when?

[@jerrywellborn]

Ultimate bike race: Racers line up at the entrance of Wal-Mart. At the blow of a whistle, they run in and grab a bike off the rack. Their mechanic has 15 minutes to make adjustments, air up the tires, etc. Then they race!

[@golfnerd3107]

When you’re wearing 2x the cost of your bike on your head, you know you big ballin.

[@Trek-om3dg]

For whosoever shall call upon the name of the Lord shall be saved. (Romans 10:13) He that covereth his sins shall not prosper: but whoso confesseth and forsaketh them shall have mercy. (Proverbs 28:13) Have mercy upon me, O God, according to thy lovingkindness: according unto the multitude of thy tender mercies blot out my transgressions. Wash me throughly from mine iniquity, and cleanse me from my sin. For I acknowledge my transgressions: and my sin is ever before me. Against thee, thee only, have I sinned, and done this evil in thy sight: that thou mightest be justified when thou speakest, and be clear when thou judgest. (Psalms 51:1-4)

[@erikperik1000]

Why the funny clothes? You get stronger and faster (in competition clothes) if you train in clothes you can wear in public.

[@gcklo]

Did you guys ride in Saratoga? Perhaps Sobey?

[@bluemootang3239]

Personally, the aluminum frame, carbon fork of the 2000's and 2010's are the best value for speed right now

[@krisjones74]

You should also control for speed -like do a set course at a steady 30 km/h - and compare power inputs.

[@ohhi5237]

cervelo lovers would hate that that video, were talking about a few (single digets) percentages

[@MTCycling]

13kg is alreayd heavy but 16kg? that is too heavy for an entry roadbike. But I like the look of it, if you want a fitness bike Eurobike is the way to go, It will give you more resistance and get you fit in no time.

[@suedfrucht44]

Guaranteed nothing Euro about that Eurobike 😂

[@suedfrucht44]

​@@Bu-22 🤔 tyres maybe? Not much, thats for certain

[@michaelmccloud1655]

It's all about branding- names. Just like the iPhone - only takes a few cents to make but they upcharge hundreds of dollars. If you're not into racing and just tryna get a decent workout/commute just buy a few hundred dollar frame and buy some decent parts. Boom fully functional and reliable bike.

[@danielattias1525]

How the hell they make a bike with disc brakes sexy wheels for $379.00 & make a profit, meaning, amazon probably paid $279.00 it has to be slave labor. REAL SAD

[@Second247]

Ahh. The Eurobike, was seriously considering it as my very first road bike. I'm kinda sad that i didn't.

[@glennicol1361]

500$US you could buy a Shimano 105 road bike from Polygon.

[@bernardo9202]

What??? Where?

[@ricksantana1016]

My thoughts exactly! Where???

[@Cat5RoadandTrack]

Honestly, get a rubbish bike for training, and then use a race bike for racing. If you have good power and strength on a heavy rubbish bike, then you have a better chance at winning on a high end race bike.

[@KISSFanDan1995]

I have a Eurobike X5. The mountain/road bike configuration and it’s great for getting around.

[@frankvaldez9700]

Kinda lame, acting like the typical bike elitist giggling at the parts and when talking about it. Doesn’t feel like that neutral or a comparison..

[@wallacedavidg]

It’s got a kick stand!!

[@MaxMax-th7uz]

Eurobike piece of junk at 16 kg .. ( mountain bike frame with road wheels ) Get a real entry bike that weighs 11kg for $500 !

[@ashurany]

Love that you left the kickstand on the Eurobike. That's why you got dropped, not the gearing or steel frame🤪

[@OriginalAirsoftGasser]

They probably only sell those Amazon bikes to KZbinrs because I've seen the same thing on so many channels now it's beginning to feel like Déjà vu.

[@Mang_ulil]

Luckily in my country, i can get proper road bike for $500, alloy frame with shimano 105 weight 9.2kg

[@aixpert291]

Imagine getting smoked by a pro on a euro bike as you pedal your heart out on some di2 equipped fiber masterpiece.

[@MrEMann]

Should I feel bad that I couldn't push 250 watts for the length of that course? I am old but still....😞

[@Mixalot140]

Eurobike will definitely makes you stronger.

[@FreerkDuursma]

Isn't this copying GCN content at this point with the Eurobike videos? Still entertaining to watch though

[@robertlenahan5375]

Love my Soloist! Thanks for reinforcing my purchase. Great video too!

[@2XFactor51]

LMAO. that gap between the front wheel and the down tube is AMAZING 😂😂😂

[@ColtSievers1000]

Gcn did this a year or 2 ago with the same cheap bike . Where's your originality boys 😂