I use a Vintage Movie Camera in 2020 and develop the film!!!

Is this little movie camera still reliable!???
In this follow up from my previous video continuing my vintage movie camera journey, I discover whether or not this Bell & Howell Filmo 70 motion picture camera I purchased from the internet still works, what the experience was like making a silent-era style movie, and see how the film develops!
(( In spite of any mishaps I may have introduced :/ ))
Regardless, this was an absolute joy to make and I plan on releasing more videos about what it's like living some of this vintage filmmaking history and making vintage movies in modern times. I have A TON more material from all my research that I had to write about in my newsletter. If you're interested, I invite you to sign up at my website ((links below))
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[@benxv115]

I'm SO GLAD there is people out there as crazy as me about old movies, and still shooting 16mm film. Please continue, you are making very good quality content !

[@TheVintageFilmmaker]

WOW Thanks so much! I sincerely appreciate the encouragement :D

[@kpfilms8124]

Do you have to wind the spring just once to use all of the film?

[@Duckcalculator]

@@kpfilms8124 I think the recommendation I’ve seen is to shoot in bursts

[@Worldwar1944]

I love old movies and I’m starting to shoot 16mm film. God bless

[@Worldwar1944]

@@kpfilms8124nope you just crank a few times and probably each time you will get 15 to 30 secs each time each roll a 16 FPS Is I believe 4 minutes worth of footage. And at 24 frames is about 2 and a half minutes. 100 Ft

[@MacEstelle]

If you ever want to borrow one of my hand crank silent era 35mm movie cameras, I would be happy to do so. No charge. You’re doing such a great job.

[@NasserAlhameli]

15:40 I could see clearly how film handels harsh grass reflection in the far background of the picture! Detals are amazing! ❤❤❤

[@Ldinos]

I have always wanted to see some video recordings of modern vehicles, cities and people using those old cameras, I just love how two time periods can merge together and produce something beautiful

[@christophercardenas157]

1:44-1:54 "The Passion of Joan of Arc" (1928) still ranks today as one of the greatest films ever made; many thanks to The Vintage Filmmaker for the inclusion of this truly cinematic masterpiece---Andromeda International Records and Films

[@xaqxiq9281]

I have always wanted to see what it would look like if a modern film maker would use a an older camera. And this was so satisfying!! Thank you so much.

[@ipokefan4]

I’m not sure how much this advice transfers to smaller formats like 8mm & 16mm, but in 35mm and 120 stills formats, negative films tend to resolve more detail when overexposed than when underexposed. I would imagine the advice from the era was given because it would be projected rather than scanned because of a lack of technology at the time. Highlight information can be recovered from even a few stops overexposed in a lot of black and white negative films. It’s the shadow detail that gets muddy and lost with even just one or two stops underexposure. Super glad to see that your camera’s in working order and that you’re giving it life again after what was surely at least two to three decades of being a shelf-piece!

[@newretrodave]

Amazing to see how the film turned out, and the side by side comparison to digital video was fascinating. Well done!

[@TheVintageFilmmaker]

Thanks so much Dave!!!

[@photographyguru2135]

I just got some vintage 16mm film lenses, and now I'm so inspired by your creativity and bravery! Thank you for making this video, and keep on making vintage movies!

[@johnkaplun9619]

The thing about film that people forget is that film itself, modern film stock, is very forgiving. It has great latitude. It has to. For all the reasons you mentioned about never being quite sure, they've worked so hard for decades to make sure that a stop over or under... it'll be OK. You'll get what you need.

[@abominatedfilms2970]

Finally someone doing videos and actually shooting with those old movie cameras, rather than blabbering about stuff how they works and so on.

[@edgarcardiel157]

Sir this was a major inspiration.... im a 17 year old lover of film and old world tech. I want to get into this for reenacting wwii but dont have a clue where to start. Id love to hear back!!! I hope this channel explodes!!!!!!

[@TheVintageFilmmaker]

Thanks so much! Outside of google search, I wasn't sure where to start either but I've found the Film Photography project to have a lot of good resources (no spon, just like them). There's also Archive.org for old movie reels and documents on how to use old cameras. And ebay and etsy are good places to find old gear if you know what to look for. Hope that helps and good luck in the future!!!

[@thissidetowardscreen4553]

Great commentary! I love films from the early 1910s through the late 1920s. Watching the evolution of technology and technique of early film making. Seeing them scanned in high resolution, correct aspect ratio and proper frame rate now shows the artistry. Awesome channel!

[@TheVintageFilmmaker]

Wow! Thanks so much!!! Sincerely appreciate your kind words. And yes, I'm grateful too more and more people are appreciating the artistry of old films thanks to the dedication of the people who restore them. Thanks again and hope you enjoy the next video!

[@itskylefortherecord]

Can't wait to see the whole film starring you and Milo!

[@TheVintageFilmmaker]

Awesome thanks!!! I'll let you know when Milo's up. Still need to figure out music and scoring btw. If you know anyone who'd be interested in working on it lmk 😉

[@ellyrion8173]

Really amazing video - I have experience with film but knew nothing about vintage movie cameras and silent films, it was incredibly informative and really fun to watch - absolutely loved your awesome personality and storytelling! Subscribed :)

[@Retrogamer71]

Enchanted by your story and presentation.

[@bobrusso1814]

Thank you Andy. I can feel you enthusiasm, something missing todays z and millennial generations.

[@jazzman1892]

Thank you very much for your quality content! I am considering the K3 16mm Soviet Camera, which your video is pushing me to purchase! Thanks from the UK!

[@primeguy9855]

WOOOWWWWWWW that end result was sooo amazing to see working out. simply AMAZING

[@TheVintageFilmmaker]

Riiiiiiiiiiight?! That's how I felt about it too!!! Thank you so much for watching and the kind feedback. I hope to have more videos up soon!

[@primeguy9855]

@@TheVintageFilmmaker no problem man, and good luck on ur future vids

[@Nothing-gq4ls]

Love the enthusiasm this video deserves more likes

[@JamesPero]

Yes! That anticipation was killing me! I'm so happy that the footage turned out great! Can't wait to see what you do with it.

[@michelleluce3497]

How fun! I loved this! Can't wait to see what else you produce from this wonderful vintage camera!

[@RealmsofPixelation]

Beautiful video! Really glad your film turned out so well! Looks fantastic! I actually prefer the look of the 1940s film over the modern digital camera footage.

[@BoundANDDetermined88]

I thought shooting still photos on film was involved, this is so much more. I have always loved the old movies, but this content has made me appreciate the old flicks even more. Thanks for sharing.

[@TheVintageFilmmaker]

Thank YOU for sharing your encouragement! And my apologies for the late reply (busy with life stuff) I'm so glad you have a new appreciation. I hope to have more up on the channel soon. Thanks again!!!

[@samehabouez8267]

wonderful, this video should be inspiring to every filmmaker. Amazing

[@chuffs5286]

Alright...YOU👏ARE👏SO👏COOL this is literally what i was looking for, i wanted to see how films looked like back then in theaters, i love silent horror films and IM SO SUBSCRIBED and i love your humor AND EDITING

[@UpcomingJedi]

@ Vintage Filmmaker So im looking at my bell and howell 70HR here and there is a tiny viewfinder which you use to focus the lenses. You turn the lens plate to align the lens with the viewfinder and you can SEE if the lens is focused or not. No need to stick it on an DSLR.

[@Drobium77]

god bless you matey!! I'm atm working with a Universal Mercury 2 from 1945, i've had some setbacks, but I'm going for it still. you have encouraged me to persevere :-)

[@Segatari]

My first time here! And I have to say, the production quality of your videos is amazing. Great job! :)

[@UpcomingJedi]

@ Vintage Filmmaker The viewfinder is on the wind up key side, under to the shutter button. Yours has one too. Its that little round window. Click your lens CW one click to bring it line with that viewfinder. Then you can look through the lens to focus it on camera for the shot. Thats how it was done before DSLRs were invented.

[@CatSnuggs]

Love your personality and expertise. Really appreciate how you’re sharing, teaching, and inspiring! Excellent job. Can’t wait to see Milo!

[@TheVintageFilmmaker]

Thanks! I'm so glad you liked it!!! And I'll let you know when Milo is up 😃

[@CharmedReally7]

i really want to see at least few videos or films that are filmed with vintage cameras but show off modern stuff, that could be a great mindscrewing for some lol

[@raymondlau2065]

Wonderful way to make someone who has no experience in movie making nearly feeling the emotion involved in making film move. Great job!!

[@TheVintageFilmmaker]

Thanks so much for your kind words! Sincerely appreciated :D

[@royhammett1222]

The result looks beautiful omg

[@pilsplease7561]

I have shot a 16mm spring wound soviet film camera and its quite a experience because its kind of loud and awkward and uses a old obsolete tripod size. But the footage is just stunning I would give my kidney to be able to afford a 16mm camera with sync so I could shoot a entire film on actual 16mm filmstock. I love the way it looks and it just has so much character to it.

[@TheVintageFilmmaker]

You and me both! I've actually been considering an old auricon newsreel camera which can be reasonably affordable, but an Arri 16 or even a Mitchell 16 would be the ultimate 🤓

[@donaldlampert331]

Wow, a guy after my own heart 💜 This is sooo cool! I’m signing up now for your news letter. Just got out my “new to me” B&H Filmo 70 E camera, and trying to learn it as I watch you……. So much to know…… how did they figure this all out 80-100 years ago?! Thank you so much…… for now….. what’s next?!

[@mariobrume1046]

Amazing video, very inspiring, keep it up!

[@reticulan5]

I still own a spring wound 16mm Pathe Webo. I’m in the mood to shoot with it. It was also made in the 1940s. But I’d like to mimic the color home movies in the 1940s.

[@jimshulman5975]

Love "Paddlin' Madelin' Home"!

[@petergriffin383]

So happy I came across your channel! Love the videos and your passion, new sub🤘

[@tiomannysworld6835]

Super fun to watch man! Love those old cameras I have a Eumig c16 I've been heftin around for 20+ years.

[@TheVintageFilmmaker]

Thanks soooo much! Really means a lot. And whoa 20 years?! That's way longer than any movie camera I've owned. Good on ya! And I bet itc16 could still run lol Thanks again. Hope to have more videos soon!

[@ClarkTeddles]

outstanding video! well done on this! I'm currently looking into shooting on 16mm and this video was very inspiring! Thank you so much!

[@airatakhsaka]

trying to shoot a feature on this camera this is a big help. thanks for the good advice

[@christopherbitgood5290]

That was so inspiring!!!! thank you thank you thank you.

[@TheVintageFilmmaker]

You're welcome! And THANK YOU! Your support inspires me. Truly :D Stay tuned! I hope to have more up soon

[@s.w.2779]

Dear Andy, one thing should be set straight. Movies didn’t look like the imagery of today after a scan and the whole electronic trickery. In the days there were nitrate contact prints from nitrate negatives, graded for projection in the light of arc lamps. Cinema projectors were equipped with Petzval type lenses, four glass, or derivatives of the Cooke triplet, maybe a Tessar in between. None of the lenses were bloomed or coated as we say today. Since that was the optical basis, projection positives were more contrasty and that has led to the ugly reproductions of the past 70 years. As Kevin Brownlow has put it: The Parade’s Gone By.

[@marvuser1367]

Amazing. Love that video!

[@TheVintageFilmmaker]

Thanks!!! Glad you enjoyed it!

[@alexlandherr]

At 3:39, from what I understand it’s called “Opening Day Quality”.

[@atompunk5575]

I'm currently learning motion picture directing and video game development, movies are the greatest works of art since i first saw many, many, many of the movies which highly influenced me to become a film director. Video Games are barely being considered an art, which is nice, but it has drawbacks, with movies being audio and visual while seeing it on a big screen at 24fps (whatever frame rate) when gaming is audio, visual and interactivity when looking at my 42in. screen at 120fps (whatever frame rate)

[@MrStormNation]

I wish there was a video of modern things like a busy street filmed with the old camera

[@bismarkwilliamson8117]

That was dope bro

[@filipdemski8303]

Great job! Interesting content!

[@jimiwexler1260]

Film actually can handle more overexposure rather than underexposure. It is the opposite of digital especially with color film. The amount of overexposure you had miscalculated probably helped more than hurt in some scenes.

[@dungeonquesting8075]

So amazing

[@NasserAlhameli]

Love the story! I could see how the digital b&w you had here looks flat compared with real film which looks 3d somehow

[@trivikramhirlekar9261]

this camera was us in the sound of music...this camera displays pure colors.

[@carstenkoloc5226]

Me too🤪🎥🎞🎬!!! I do love film.

[@Cripkellco]

Well done Sir. I appreciate it my Good Friend. 🎥🏆

[@TheVintageFilmmaker]

I appreciate you good sir 😃

[@jakefife9428]

I can’t wait to see how this turns out. I just started filming with an 8mm camera and I’m planning on filming a short film with it soon.

[@TheVintageFilmmaker]

Thanks so much Jake! And FYI in case you missed it, the film turned out great! You can find the finished film on my channel, here: kzbin.info/www/bejne/m5S1faeueNJspbc Good luck with your short film and hope it's a fantastic experience!

[@jakefife9428]

@@TheVintageFilmmaker Thank you so much! I'm going to check that out.

[@alexthelion335]

Very interesting, you've earned my subscription!

[@TheVintageFilmmaker]

AWESOME! Welcome and thanks so much. I really appreciate it 🙏

[@Maikoh]

Binging your videos now 😂 Lol that Singin' in the Rain reference.. I actually just watched that a few days ago! These videos are so well done and I love the music you use. Where do you get your vintage style music for your videos? Your movie came out so well!! Also curious where you're getting your film developed?

[@ernestoscharbaai9975]

Man dude you have the same style like me that’s fantastic

[@TheVintageFilmmaker]

Thanks! Sounds like you have impeccable taste haha!

[@slm353]

I have a Revere 8 projector from the 40s or 50s that still works very well with 2 reels of laurel ard hard and 1 little rascals

[@pritush]

😆 the first roll I shot i shot whole 100 foot backwards on the non emulsions side . Then shot on the emulsions side and it still worked out . Can’t underestimate film period

[@Ch.y337]

AMAZING 😢

[@sidecarcn]

You should actually test results using Kodak vision 3 50D. The camera that I have is different but the results are absolutely fantastic..

[@Totallyfine29_]

Thanks A LOT !! I am working on an old movie 🎥 hopefully I will win the competition in college 😭

[@HDCAMAN]

AWESOME!!!

[@marissakaye6511]

Oh my goodness! this is a dream!! Lets make a film!

[@TheVintageFilmmaker]

Wow THANK YOU SO MUCH!! and I'd LOVE TO MAKE A FILM!!! hmu if ever you're stateside on the east coast! :D

[@justaboringjoha3678]

A bit of overexposure usually isn't a problem, 1-2 stops don't ruin the pictures.

[@milandoersam]

I am a Vintage Fan too and just ordered myself a Bell&Howell 333.

[@TheVintageFilmmaker]

Cool beans! Hope it works out for you :D

[@milandoersam]

@@TheVintageFilmmaker Thank you. I like your work really much.

[@milandoersam]

@@TheVintageFilmmaker It works and is in beautiful condition.

[@BartdeBoisblanc]

One rule of thumb with old 16mm movie cameras with no light meter is shoot in the middle of the day at f16. Know as the Sunny 16 rule. I have a Paillard Bolex no reflex 16mm camera by the way.

[@Vahmrick60]

Nice stuff. I shot with that camera for news and sports in the 70s and 80s.

[@TheVintageFilmmaker]

Wow that's awesome! I can only imagine what that was like to get paid to use such cool cameras lol Thanks for the uplifting comment!!! Really appreciate it 🙏

[@Vahmrick60]

@@TheVintageFilmmaker I gotpaid 50 bucks a game plus mileage for shooting high school football back in the 70s.

[@Melayna.c]

Hi there! I’m a total beginner when it comes to photography/filmmaking but really want to give it a go on a vintage camera. I’ve seen a few cameras from the 40’s on EBay but I have no idea what to look for. Do you have any recommendations? Great video btw!

[@darkcustomxxx7252]

I appreciate!

[@TheVintageFilmmaker]

I appreciate too! :D

[@MacEstelle]

Awsome thanks

[@CameraCombo]

You deserve more subs. I'm game.

[@TheVintageFilmmaker]

How much do I owe you for the comment lol THANKS!!!

[@theamazingagnostic2819]

I didn't know a film of a man walking for a few seconds could make you feel something. If only we could time travel.

[@TheVintageFilmmaker]

Thank you so much for your kind words. I felt the same way when I first saw the film, knowing the context of where that film came from. I felt kind of cheezy adding some sappy music over it and presenting that way in the video, but you know what? It's how I genuinely felt watching that stuff at the time - it's the closest to time travel I could get. I'm glad someone else appreciated it to in the same way. Thanks again! (and stay tuned - hope to have more up on the channel soon!)

[@davidangeli8067]

you look so passionate !

[@roopeshverma9719]

Can anyone tell me where can I buy a film camera, like the vintage one?? I have been looking online but no good results!

[@oldradiosnphonographs]

Hahaha. At least you had a better experience than I did making my first film! At least your take up reel wasn’t slightly bent keeping the film from properly spooling onto the take up reel, causing the camera to jam up and having to cut out a half reel of footage that didn’t spool on the take up reel and was crumpled up. Boy howdy I learned a expensive lesson. 😅 I mean the worst discouraging thing that could happen to a Noob filmmaker happened to me. But you know what? I’m not gonna let a bad experience deter me. I’m not giving up or quitting! 😤 Like Aaliyah said. “Brush yourself off and try again!”

[@oldradiosnphonographs]

Update: the film actually turned out fine. I feel satisfied knowing I can do this!

[@TheVintageFilmmaker]

CONGRATS! Glad to hear it turned out well! I've had my share of bad experiences to on other cameras. I should probably do a video on that to let people know that sometimes setbacks happen, especially when we're still learning the process. Keep it up! (And stay tuned! I hope to have more up on the channel...at some point lol)

[@oldradiosnphonographs]

@@TheVintageFilmmaker Next time I do 16mm I’ll use my B&H cameras. Im currently saving for an Edison Triumph Phonograph, and after that I’ll save for a Reflex Bolex H16. BTW The Cine-Kodak Special II is another cool vintage 16mm you need to get ahold of!

[@wardogdauwdd3020]

I have an old double 8 bell and a Howell camera I'm trying to find one from them 16mm or bigger somehow

[@NoosaHeads]

I have some Filmos (and a 35mm Eyemo). They're good, robust and reliable. However, they're, optically, not the best. Had you used a serviced and adjusted Bolex H16, with a Switar lens, you'd see an improvement. Maybe at some future date, would you consider filming the same scene simultaneously, with a high-end 16mm camera, against the Filmo?

[@babaofett2165]

Excellent presentation and results. What film stock (ASA) and Fstop did you use? Also, what FPS? (16/24?)

[@TheVintageFilmmaker]

Thanks! And the film scenes were shot on BW 100 ISO, and I think I mostly used higher f stops, between f11-16, maybe f8 once under the tree. And the frame rate was 16fps. PS love your user name :D

[@shanukadilshara8762]

what is a name of that old camera name please

[@manymany4879]

I like your hat.

[@AbraxasSteadicam]

How did you develop your film and keep it so clean? I sent my film to FPP and it looked like it was developed 100 years ago!

[@bussesandtrains1218]

question. how much will it cost to shoot 30 minutes of film?

[@HelpUsSaveLives]

Curious if the footage was shot at 16 fps or 24 fps? The digital video would most likely be 24 fps or 30 fps or whatever you chose, but most digital cameras will not shoot 16 fps that I know of. The scene where you walk to and from the camera are both the same speed, did you change it to 24 fps for that or walk slower as they did in the old movies? Secondly, if you are using a C mount lens, why not just get TWO identical C mount lenses and use one on each camera, so you do not have to change back and forth between the Eyemo and the digital camera? Just wondering?

[@s.w.2779]

You have actually a Filmo 70-DA but the critical focuser is not installed and the opening plugged. Model D came out in October 1928, the DA was first made available in August 1930. Most models were continued in manufacture and sale for some years. Interesting thing about that lens you have with a focus ring going beyond infinity. You see an engraved C on the barrel, that designates the mount. C mount lenses replaced the B mount and that came after the initial Bell & Howell A mount found only with the earliest Filmo cameras. It’s possible that your lens was remounted or that somebody hasn’t adjusted the rear group correctly. The brown finish tells me that your model was either made after around 1950 or repainted. Bell & Howell offered a renewal for all their products. Only the serial number will help determine the year of manufacture. For repairs and further service, ww.film-mechanik.ch.

[@TheVintageFilmmaker]

Hey there! Thanks so much for the input. You sound like you have insight into this vintage camera world. Would you happen to know how I could look up the sn of the camera? I would love to determine the correct year! I made my determination based on a manual and some service paperwork (I believe from B&H) that had the year 1947 on it, although of course that might not necessarily be the corresponding paperwork for this camera. Also, the badge reads just "D" with no "DA" and it's a standard 16 (dbl perf) camera which I thought also dated it further. I would value more information about determining the age if you recommend any good resources. Just lmk! Thanks again.

[@s.w.2779]

@@TheVintageFilmmaker Hey, we’ve already had contact via E-Mail, I remember.

[@mitchconnerandsometimesjlotoo]

What I don't get is I could watch a hitchcockbmovoe from the 50s, intense vibrant colors, also you can see peoples eye color clearly. You can hear people who talk quietly. On a new movie you can't see people's eyes well, everything looks dull and drab, you can't hear people talk. What's all that about?

[@oldradiosnphonographs]

What kind of lenses are you using? I bought a 70HR with no lenses and I need an idea on what I can purchase for mine.

[@oldradiosnphonographs]

7 months later… I finally am making my first film!

[@bhbvuvocxzhrzrx]

where did you send the film for proccesing?

[@TheVintageFilmmaker]

Hey soory for the late response! I tend to use wither Filmphotographyproject.com or my friend at midwest film company (www.midwestfilmco.com/pricing) I also use a couple local places where I am in central, FL USA. Thanks for the question. Hope that helps!

[@ImprovingAbility]

David Fincher should take notes

[@chrisogle5353]

Got to edit the movie the old fashioned way. No computers at all.

[@TheVintageFilmmaker]

That's QUITE the challenge!

[@aGVTfilm]

subbed

[@kelleebolden7936]

I'm guessing your model doesn't have the critical focusing port? I have the HR model and I use it all the time, works perfect.

[@TheVintageFilmmaker]

Hey thanks for the comment! So my B&H 70D did not come with a critical focuser installed, however, I also purchased a 70DL and basically swapped out the critical focuser tube. I DON'T RECOMMEND DOING THAT as I've since learned the tolerances are very tight - but with that said, I tested it and it appears to be working fine in my case. And glad to hear your HR is in good use! One day I may have to one (I believe you can expand to a 400 ft mag right?) THANKS AGAIN!

[@kelleebolden7936]

@@TheVintageFilmmaker Hello. I appreciate your response. I did not realize the DL, did not come with the critical focusing port. The HR model can except the 400' magazine and it also has the Veeder digital footage counter. I really enjoy your creativity and films.

[@emanuel3617]

Omg this is so hard lmao poor filmmakers of the past, the guys were definitely not having a good time

[@MrRom92DAW]

Modern emulsions tend to do very, very well with a bit of overexposure, so your accidental overexposure probably ended up working in your favor!

[@cameramanhicham]

i can't belive your camera movie 1940 still work it's a mircale

[@TheVintageFilmmaker]

Exactly how I felt about it too. Thanks for the kind feedback!!

[@cameramanhicham]

@@TheVintageFilmmaker me too i have a one i think it's 70s still work but i can't find negatif bobbin it's done

[@redlightning1922]

You need a Kickstarter or Patreon so I can throw money 💰 for your films/projects.

[@TheVintageFilmmaker]

THANK YOU!!! How about a "buy me a coffee"??! lol Seriously tho, been busy lately but have shot more film and will have more content sooooon!!! www.buymeacoffee.com/VtgFilmmaker