I Used THIS Lens In Unreal Engine

[@JoshuaMKerr]

A special thanks to @JackToth @zircron45 for your help and advice.

[@kylehessling2679]

It's crazy how much that helps to make CGI elements feel more realistic! Incredible work!

[@JoshuaMKerr]

Thanks! I'm really pleased with the end result

[@jordansaward]

Unbelievable results! The forefront of virtual production this channel! Smashed it

[@JoshuaMKerr]

Thanks so much

[@gnagyusa]

Very cool. The only thing is the lighting mismatch. You look like you're composited on the dungeon shots because the lighting on your head doesn't match the tunnels.

[@vykow_]

crazy how we can feel the hapiness when the lens finally works !

[@JoshuaMKerr]

It's pure relief. I was so far through the process I'd have hated it to not work in unreal.

[@sirwolfiusmaximus4201]

End result is amazing. Would love to watch a longer breakdown of the whole process, like the lighting setup, compositing etc...

[@JoshuaMKerr]

That's what the course will be... but instead of the result form this video we made a full mummy short film and will show the process end to end.

[@faradaysinfinity]

This is so insanely inspirational

[@JoshuaMKerr]

Thanks man. You just have to keep at it. Whatever it is.

[@vmladin]

This is INSANE!!! Wow!

[@azielarts]

So cool! Some of those shots, especially with the mummy look like Claymation with the virtual lenses. I don't see anyone else taking this approach. You are awesome.

[@JoshuaMKerr]

@azielarts Thanks so much, Thaddeus! I'm glad you like it. You'll have to try it for some of your renders!

[@azielarts]

@@JoshuaMKerr Absolutely!

[@noobg1139]

I hope this lens system is built in 3D programs in upcoming. Such a vibe to see

[@leksraamat1722]

Great stuff Joshua. Good on you for not giving up!

[@florianguibert9257]

Amazing new lens! Thanks a lot for the hard work.

[@anthonypc-248]

Your mummy looks more like clay animation than CGI. And everything is very well composited! I would not have guessed your hallway setting wasn't real if you hadn't shown your blue screen footage.

[@JoshuaMKerr]

Huge compliment, man. Nice to know im getting it right

[@timbboerner]

Youre such an inspiration man... Figuring all of this out with trial and error

[@BoundlessEntertainmentFilms]

Incredible stuff, Josh. Awesome to see the full process in this video, and the results are stunning. These virtual lenses are a huge step towards true realism in Unreal Engine and I'll be using them on all my projects! It was a pleasure shooting with you :)

[@JoshuaMKerr]

It was great shooting with you too man! I have such high hopes for this short that we've made. Keep up the great work on your channel.

[@rafu2]

Sick result, well done! Can't wait to see both the final short and the full course 😊

[@solar-monk]

Really well done mate. Very impressive.

[@JoshuaMKerr]

Thanks man

[@rzaman-gg6en]

Good job! I hope this method/topic gets more attention soon. I really want to try using anamorphic lenses virtually like this since there’s really no other way to get accurate anamorphic distortion and depth perception, but so far I think only Jack T. Was able to pull it off I think Zircron is working on that as well though!

[@owenjenkinsofficial]

If you want some of these characteristics in the realtime view with lumen as well there is a new virtual production addon called Camera Calibration from epic games that is used to match lens character with the virtual Cine cameras as well.

[@JoshuaMKerr]

Distortion calibration for sure, but does the new plugin do more than that? Like your showreel, by the way

[@euansmith3699]

Amazing attention to detail.

[@JoshuaMKerr]

Thanks

[@MakinleyMarquise]

You are very talented! I really want to learn virtual production! I can’t wait for the course!

[@JoshuaMKerr]

Me too.

[@Native_Creation]

Brilliant work, and thank you for sharing. I've been wanting to do the same with some vintage Zeiss lenses, but lack the skill level. Great work! I hope we'll see more virtual lenses in the future.

[@JoshuaMKerr]

Im sure I'll be making more. I do have a very nice zeiss jena that I want to make.

[@philippeLebret]

Hello, I own an helios m44-4 and i love using it on lumix camera ! Incredible work you have done virtualize the 44-2 !!

[@JoshuaMKerr]

@@philippeLebret Great lenses. I love a helios. I have the 44M also and its another great one.

[@morganpage]

the best lens

[@osamaosman6307]

I really love how ambitious this guy is! He keeps surprising me, project after another! Very inspiring!!

[@JoshuaMKerr]

I keep choosing really difficult projects. After this I'd love an easier one.

[@Malfunction_54]

Aaaand... you got a new follower. This is freaking amazing. Eyes opened. Lightbulb moment. Mind blown. And THANK YOU for the idea: getting blueprints from the patent office. Brilliant.

[@JoshuaMKerr]

Hey, glad to have you on the journey with me.

[@jasonhancox1622]

Nicely done sir! I appreciate all your time, effort and willingness to share.

[@JoshuaMKerr]

I appreciate you watching. I aint goin nowhere

[@GabeWood-v7o]

Looks good! I can definitely see you developing a larger fan base, this is entertaining and well narrated content :)

[@JoshuaMKerr]

Thanks man

[@okulodedio]

Astonishing work!

[@JoshuaMKerr]

Thanks man

[@JoshFryer]

Congrats! The journey has had me on the edge of my seat! Looks great!

[@JoshuaMKerr]

I'm so glad you enjoyed the video. It was certainly a journey.

[@tomasm1233]

Wow. How awesome it looks!

[@JoshuaMKerr]

Thank you! Cheers!

[@AdamAngevine]

Man I came for knowledge and I left with a lot of anticipation for you’re short, very excited to see what you come up with!

[@JoshuaMKerr]

Can't wait to show what we're making. Glad you're excited

[@dragonflixchannel]

Hello Josh. I own the set of Iron Glass lenses that were used in Batman. You can get some fantastic images with them especially using the Varicam. So I will look out for this lense on the market place. Keep the good work up. Always interesting to see what you are up to.

[@JoshuaMKerr]

Oh very nice, those rehoused lenses are very nice. I had the pleasure of trying a 28mm Iron Glass earlier this year. The virtual Helios is availlable from a link in the descripton :)

[@KaliadderExperiments]

Oh my word this looks so good!!!!

[@laanrohs]

insane work man !!!! insane!

[@JoshuaMKerr]

Thanks so much. Glad you enjoyed it.

[@3dchick]

If someone from Hollywood reaches out, you have to let us know. 😊Amazing job!!

[@JoshuaMKerr]

lol, I'd be surprised. Thanks for saying, though.

[@zircron45]

Really fun watch! Super dope topic and fantastic final result.

[@JoshuaMKerr]

Cheers man!

[@asaadalshahin6519]

BROOOOOO THIS LOOKS PERFECT

[@JoshuaMKerr]

Hey man! Thanks! Glad you like it

[@fancypotato2188]

Thanks for making and sharing this.

[@JoshuaMKerr]

Thanks for watching it

[@michaelwalsh5191]

Absolutely fantastic!

[@nanzartstudio4173]

That’s insane of idea 🔥🔥🔥

[@videosvariosartistas2851]

WOOW FANTASTICO ME ENCANTO !!! GOOD JOB

[@JoshuaMKerr]

Thanks!

[@WW_Studios]

bro - that's a crazy idea! Love this!!

[@TheArtofme]

Well done, will buy the pack today as I’m working on my film this week.

[@JoshuaMKerr]

Cool, join the discord too. If you have questions you can post them there.

[@smepable]

Respect for your perserverance on this 😮

[@JoshuaMKerr]

Thanks man

[@sirrandalot]

Great showcase of the virtual lens, incredibly cool to see it matched up with the real footage like that. I'm also super impressed at how accurate your recreation was... curious to know what some of the secrets were to solving those issues 🥸

[@JoshuaMKerr]

Hi sirandalot! When I was doing my research for my first let of lenses, your 'Make Renders Incredibly Complicated' video proved it was possible and I found that incredibly motivational. You blazed a trail there. Glad you like the helios re-creation, I'm pleased with the result, although I need to build an aperture control for it and refine the focus control. It's tricky to explain but part of the issue surrounds finding the rear element to sensor distance in both thr real world and blender. Blender's focus distance setting causes some offset to this value, which was kinda hard to diagnose. If you want I'd be happy to have a chat with you and show my working a bit. Let me know and I'll pop you my email address.

[@Jason71]

I can now use my Helios with Unreal in virtual production- mind blown. Thank you!

[@JoshuaMKerr]

Yeah man! Please do...it's lonely at the top xD

[@Crimsonland1]

Amazing stuff!

[@aneinanein5636]

Thank you soooooo much! Thanks that i can use it without paying again! I tested a bit and its looking great!

[@JoshuaMKerr]

No worries. It makes no sense to put barriers in peoples way needlessly. Plus, it's a bit experimental and will need some updates.

[@Revontuletband]

Looks awesome!

[@JoshuaMKerr]

Cheers

[@3dd205]

I want to buy your full course with an explanation from beginning to end of how to make a movie. Please, just let it be with a very clear explanation!

[@JoshuaMKerr]

I plan for it to be very detailed

[@3dd205]

@@JoshuaMKerr Thanks. Can you give me an estimated launch date for this course?

[@Morf-w1r]

@@3dd205 I'm also wondering when???

[@lukegordonharris]

This is so epic

[@JoshuaMKerr]

Thanks man!

[@nathanhackerbts9081]

that's great man!

[@WhitespaceFilms]

Fantastic work, and great job sticking with it! I'm curious, did you do any digital recreation of coatings from the original 44-2 lens? Or just relying on the ior and sizing of the elements?

[@JoshuaMKerr]

Hi there. I didnt have any coating information amd wouldnt be sure how that should be translated to pbr.

[@mariobernabe3897]

Wtf!? Genius ❤❤❤

[@3dchick]

You probably have a ton on your plate already, but a short walk through of the Unreal part, setting, lighting, etc, would be awesome. I can't seem to nail path traced lighting or settings beyond what you and Boundless guy (I'm ashamed I can't remember his name right now) have provided. Like my fog disappears, etc. I bought the lens pack previously and loved what they do, but got frustrated with the path tracing part, if that makes sense.

[@nicholasdiudin]

It's a pity that I live in Russia! If I could be by your side, we would combine my knowledge and skills with yours and create a movie. Keep up the great work, don't stop-you're the best! You will achieve everything you want!!

[@AdamAngevine]

Still very excited to see what the short is going to look like, is it coming out soon?

[@JoshuaMKerr]

Im trying to get it out this month

[@Zhion]

Thank you for this awesome insight of how you created this lens! I am really curious about the last part, how you eventually made this lens match the Helios 44-2 bokeh :). I’ve been struggling myself as well with recreating lenses. My images always aren’t crisp and show different bokeh compared to the real life lens 😓 Anyways great work as always, really inspiring!

[@JoshuaMKerr]

For me a lot of it came down to the settings on the camera. We are using them as sensor planes but they still have depth of field and focus settings which can cause some wierd problems. But honestly optics is such a vast topic and these virtual lenses can fail for just about any reason.

[@nonsomega_official]

I think you should create a virtual ironglass set, include the Tair-300 to make it a set of seven. 20,28,32,58(Helios),85,135+300 (Tair)

[@JoshuaMKerr]

Damn I'd love to but patent hunting is just awful and I don't own the ironglass set to compare to either. Good idea. Maybe one day I'll get the chance.

[@simonevrech4870]

what a blast!

[@filmPilotPro]

excellent job brother

[@JoshuaMKerr]

Thanks man

[@halimgarciagendis248]

Awesome!!!

[@jaisonphilip7801]

super result👍

[@timvan_tv]

Love your stuff Josh! Just wanted to say I grabbed the free 85mm lens you made available, and it looks absolutely gorgeous in my scenes! I'm just noticing the focus on my subjects isnt 10% sharp, my point of focus looks just a touch out of focus. Anyone else have this issue? Did you find a solution?

[@JoshuaMKerr]

Hi, yes the 85mm is a bit soft. Glad you like it though. I hope to make an updated version of the lens pack.

[@lesona]

Bravo bravo my friend...

[@brettcameratraveler]

Love the attention of detail of this. Curious if these virtual lenses can be applied to the UE in real-time or if they are designed to be applied on the final render.

[@JoshuaMKerr]

They only work with pathtracer. Glad you like the video.

[@Void_rift_disconnect]

I came here to say I was a bit bummed by the added render times and I had an issue not being able to keep the lens synced with my camera shake...Which I am sure there is a fix for my dumb...but man...I think you just resold me on using these on a short. Nice work on the helios. I have an old PL mount Helios for my 35mm Arri 3. I think I have to find a PL mount digital cam now. hahaha Nice work. Also you mentioned having a little one...I thought you had been a school boy! lol

[@JoshuaMKerr]

@HealingPeace-bz7rt Haha... yeah, im a dad...school was a very long time ago for me. You mention trying to add camera shake to the helios. Is this a blueprint based camera shake? Tell me a bit about your setup. If you have a pl mount helios is it a 44-2. There are quite a few variants

[@DarioOrtisi]

Great project. I will ask to you how did you define and set the distance from virtual camera to the lens modeled? THis is an important question i mean? Thanks

[@JoshuaMKerr]

In normal lenses, that distance depends very much on the focus distance you want. And this is true in virtual lenses too but it is also affected by the focus distance settings of the virtual camera, so it can cause some trial and error. Not sure if this answers your question

[@mustafabol1706]

Great man. You are literally crazy. So blender version of the helios include the package ?

[@JoshuaMKerr]

Glad you like the work. The blender files are not included. Virtual glass was made for Unreal.

[@hekutokku]

is there any way you could make the virtual helios lens available for use in blender? it would be an incredible tool to have and something I personally have had on my wishlist for a long time!

[@JoshuaMKerr]

I don't think it will be any time soon, but I am going to look at doing this.

[@Dango-gg]

I'm curious if you've seen the newly released Blender addon called Lens Sim? Just came out today and I was instantly reminded of this video 😆

[@JoshuaMKerr]

Yeah, I know Heinzelnisse. It's a great addon, and he's worked very hard on it.

[@xraydog2011]

Bro can u please make a video on DMX control for controlling external lights to fit unreal engine environment

[@JoshuaMKerr]

It's on my list. It might be more suited to the upcoming course, though.

[@vincelund7203]

May I ask, if we purchase the Virtual Glass, do they contain everything to get them working in blender too? I assume it will be the model + material with correct IOR. And, perhaps a rig to focus? Thanks!

[@JoshuaMKerr]

They are set up to work in unreal. I have the blender files, but im not familiar enough with blender to make a neat rig. The helios works a bit differently to the first lenses I made. It currently has a focus controller, but aperture is fixed at f2 for now. I'll be updating this.

[@Gametime05577]

How to use You Free Lance in Blender ?????????????

[@JoshuaMKerr]

It's made for Unreal. I don't have a blender version.

[@Gametime05577]

@JoshuaMKerr please make for blender also 😅 humble request 😌

[@JoshuaMKerr]

@Gametime05577 It won't be for a while at least. I dont use blender very much.

[@WeareVRMUSIC]

Did you made a realtime compositing with composure in unreal before or in Fusion the keyed footage on top?

[@JoshuaMKerr]

The comp was all done in fusion.

[@CGToonStudio]

08:10 "Area Clear" Ahh reaction.

[@JoshuaMKerr]

Oh 100%

[@CGToonStudio]

@@JoshuaMKerr Any chance of a video on Unreal optimization for Animation for both viewport working and rendering.. Please

[@Levane_]

Insane! How do u learned ue5 blueprints?

[@JoshuaMKerr]

I've picked it up a bit over the years (mainly youtube tutorials), but im still not very good at it.

[@EuropaUX]

How does this differ from using the unreal engine lens profiles? I am curious as to the difference in bringing modeled than using profiles.

[@JoshuaMKerr]

@EuropaUX Im pretty sure lens profiles just apply distortion data for the purpose of calibration. But obviously, there's so much more to a lenses character than distortion.

[@EuropaUX]

@@JoshuaMKerr That's right. I wonder if this could be replicated through HLSL or niagara or so and have it be a PPV of Unreal camera, or if relying on geometry is the only way.

[@JoshuaMKerr]

@EuropaUX I know that shaders are possible, but to what degree they are physically accurate, Im not sure.

[@joyddeyto5345]

is there camera correction in this new UE5, or camera tilt?

[@JoshuaMKerr]

Im not sure what you mean. Can you elaborate?

[@Ecklar]

So what was missing for the lens? Pattern and ior are not enough? :O

[@JoshuaMKerr]

So much man. It's crazy. I didn't bother going into it in the video because to explain one thing I have to explain ten other things...and before I know it the video would become a bloated mess.

[@Ecklar]

@@JoshuaMKerr hot damn! Any plans to make a video just about that then?

[@JoshuaMKerr]

@Ecklar Very unlikely, sorry, It’s a bit too niche and would stray a bit far from my channel topic.

[@marcfruchtman9473]

This is a really great adventure. You have a very cool narrator style voice, I can almost hear it now... "Here we have the Jena Biotar, far from its native ecology, the Biotar is a rare prize currently being hunted down, with few surviving." (Oh wait, that's Sir David Attenborough... my bad) What a great skill set. Thank you for the video! BTW, how do you deal with the giant light focused on the back of your head like that early in the vid... its so bright you ears are glowing red!

[@JoshuaMKerr]

Thanks man...I'm certainly no Attenborough haha. Not sure what you mean about the light, I was filming prety ad-hoc so nothing is lit in a deliberate way. I just want to catch myself in the midst of the process.

[@marcfruchtman9473]

@@JoshuaMKerr Oh, there was this one scene... "1 Week Later", at 2:03, I thought you did that on purpose tho.

[@JoshuaMKerr]

@marcfruchtman9473 Whatever you're seeing must just be me

[@ItaloCorage]

Nice, Man! Do you know How can show and get templates of câmeras and lens tô unreal? Free or paying?

[@JoshuaMKerr]

Im pretty sure that this is the first lens created that works in unreal.

[@GLAUTOMOTIVEMEDIA]

I bought the Collection and still in love with this. But i have the problem in 90% of my shoots i have ghosting "bloom" in around the object what is in focus, hmm. I try to turn dirt and bloom off, but a complete turn off of the bloom is not possible. Can someone help?

[@JoshuaMKerr]

Have you joined the discord. That's the best place for posting problems and getting support

[@GLAUTOMOTIVEMEDIA]

@@JoshuaMKerr I will try thx

[@paparinga]

I see the website has expired? Is there anywhere I can get another link for download of the lens?

[@JoshuaMKerr]

@@paparinga I was just renewing the domain today. Should be back online

[@chrisnrs354]

where could i find the blender version?

[@JoshuaMKerr]

My lens pack is just for UE5

[@davidguillermoborges]

We want the blender Lens. :)

[@JoshuaMKerr]

I'll see what I can do

[@mine_raidz1514]

Is there blender downloads? I do u unreal but currently am switching to a blender workflow for renders and im doing concept art and i find for this type of shot its easier and faster to work in blender fully with some external texture work.

[@JoshuaMKerr]

There aren't any blender versions right now. Im trying to figure out the best way to do this

[@mine_raidz1514]

@@JoshuaMKerr sorry i guess i mis understood i thought it was working in blender and then u converted it over to ue5? Hopefully u get a working version. Would be super cool

[@JoshuaMKerr]

@mine_raidz1514 I modelled it in blender, but I didn't build any controls that would make it easy to use.

[@mine_raidz1514]

@@JoshuaMKerr ahh gotcha, will u be working on a version for blender or since you use ue5 nah? I get if u dont cause its obviously alot of work.

[@JoshuaMKerr]

@mine_raidz1514 Im going to look into it, but im not totally sure. There's the initial effort to get it all working, but also future updates and compatability to bear in mind.

[@mine_raidz1514]

hey so ive been using your lens pack for abit now and am having some issues, one being fireflies (like alot of them) i can tell my shots would look so good if i could get rid of these fireflies but i cant seem to do that. My shot is in a decently dark attic with a desk and acouple of dim lamps giving a very cinematic and warm look. even without your lenses i need to render out at crazy samples, im using 10 light bounces as i have translucent objects and they will look weird under 10, im using 100k samples per pixel and a max path exposure of 1 but ive changed that around quite abit, i have reference depth and reference atmosphere on and denoise off as it makes everything look very blotchy. i havent tried rendering the scene fully out ive only been letting the scene render within the viewport so maybe thats the issue. i dont know why i need so many samples as ive seen so many people use wayyyy less, idk if this is because of how complicated my scene is or something but ye some help if you know whats wrong would be much appreciated. (just to be clear i need that many samples even without your lens just when using your lens all the bloom from the lens creates so many fireflies.)

[@JoshuaMKerr]

Something is definitely wrong in the scene is you're using that many samples. Have you joined my discord?

[@mine_raidz1514]

@ i believe i have joined. And ye id assume somethings wrong 😂 it does have a crazy amount of models in it but ye very weird

[@JoshuaMKerr]

I reccomend making a post about it for the support forum channel in the discord. Be sure to include images

[@mine_raidz1514]

@ sounds good will do :) thanks for the reply

[@mine_raidz1514]

@@JoshuaMKerr wait can u only join your discord by paying? i couldnt find a link?

[@drsjamesserra]

Dude this is better CGI than Hollywood! It totally looks real!

[@JoshuaMKerr]

Too kind :)

[@michaeldavid6832]

Aperture and filmback. Aperture determines the bokeh. Filmback determines AOV.

[@JoshuaMKerr]

Yes indeed.

[@killabee748]

WWouuaAAhhhHH!!

[@ACiNExFILMs]

🙌

[@-LeoBeall]

they work in blender too?

[@JoshuaMKerr]

My lens pack is just for UE5. Might do blender down the line

[@-LeoBeall]

@@JoshuaMKerr Nice! I'll be waiting

[@Zzz-u6t]

what a noob type of stuff

[@ROBOTRIX_eu]