I've Changed My Mind On JADAM and Anaerobic Fermentations/Fertilizers

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[@clemfandango2930]

I kinda figured this out on my own just by being lazy and not using my ferments at all last year and when I drained the barrels down before winter I noticed how much nicer they were than when I would start using them after a couple months of decomp. I appreciate you clarifying your evolved viewpoint on these methods because not many people would have the balls to make a video like this.

[@wmpx34]

Doesn’t require balls, just dedication to the scientific method. When your goal is knowledge, discovering misconceptions in your thinking is the greatest blessing.

[@tomatito3824]

@@wmpx34 Doesn't have to be scientific though. Farmers' knowledge is not science, more like intuition and common sense, and it's much more holistic and valuable for agriculture. Scientists couldn't farm to save their lives, while illiterate farmers have been doing it since forever.

[@RustyBobbins]

@@wmpx34 Discovering is one thing. Sharing that discovery after you’ve been teaching a different way does take humility. Many people discover but then stick their heads in the sand.

[@surronzak8154]

@@RustyBobbins Humility isn't balls, I think @wmpx34 is absolutionist like me (in absolute) very attached to precision in this world where langage precision becomes non existent. Many people have a to strong ego is what you wanted to say ultimately, Viking did fight his ego to bring up this video, but this becomes very easy the more you do it, it is how you become wise, you can't become wise by following and protecting your ego's feelings

[@RustyBobbins]

@@surronzak8154 😑🥱

[@jamestomlin5525]

As jadam teaches, patience is key. Sure, you can use it in as little as a month, as I have and it's great stuff! But the longer you let your 'brew' sit and age half a year or more it's even better. Keep learning and never stop experimenting:] happy growing

[@gardenlikeaviking]

yes my friend this is the way

[@jeffmeyers3837]

Nate, allow me to reconcile your experience with Elaine Ingham's knowledge, since I've been an avid follower of both of you for years. In one of her lectures she explains the issue with anaerobic ferments is the potential introduction of pathogens (as you said), but the reason they actually work is the concentrated plant hormones in the anaerobic tea (not necessarily the nutrients). She said this will give a temporary boost but is not durable and long-lasting the way aerated compost teas are, which inoculate the plant/soil with the allies that provide long-lasting benefits to the plant(s). I hope that helps.

[@user-rc5ht5eh3c]

Honestly ingham is too arrogant, and jadam is tried and tested , i stick with jadam

[@RustyBobbins]

That doesn’t track with those who have been using JADAM for years, no issue.

[@jeffmeyers3837]

@@RustyBobbins I get it, home gardening you do whatever works, no microscopes, no catastrophic cost if you introduce pathogens to your small backyard garden, you wouldn't even notice because everything seems to do fine. Kind of different when working on hundreds of acres of commercial farm land. The stakes are higher so those chances we take in our gardens would be amplified if something did happen. No need to over think things.

[@jeffmeyers3837]

@@user-rc5ht5eh3c Yeah that's cool, there's many ways to do things, some more appropriate than others depending on the situation but still at the end of the day plants want to grow we just help them along. But there's a reason Nate is now promoting aerated compost teas, something many others have been doing for years. Jadam is cool and has a use, I like to experiment with many different methods (the more you know), but at the end of the day we all do what we can, with what we have and what we think would work best in our own situation. No dogmatic beliefs are needed, just help plants grow.

[@RustyBobbins]

@@jeffmeyers3837 I’m actually thinking of the guy who coined JADAM. It’s very possible that there is something in his method or local bacteria/fungal colonies that are keeping this from happening for him. Maybe there is something key that has been missed and not passed on in his teaching or simply lost in translation. Given how much this channel has promoted JADAM I would be very interested in seeing him visit the creator of the method and speaking with him about his experiences using it.

[@doloinc]

Great video, Nate. I've done JADAM for almost 10 years now and share the same perspective. I have since transitioned to aerated solutions, which has created a significant difference.

[@robertavillella6485]

Nate, your videos are absolutely incredible as well as awe inspiring. They are extremely well formatted, laid out methodcally, and very simple to grasp. You give us the theory, then in to the garden for the practical. Bravo! The work you put in to making them is so appreciated, my friend. Thank you, thank you! Stay positive, stay happy! ;)

[@gardenlikeaviking]

I deeply appreciate this helpful feedback and positive energy my friend thank you!!

[@robertavillella6485]

❤

[@ausfoodgarden]

Hey Nate, I'm just a suburban gardener so everything I do is small-scale. I make anaerobic weed tea in 5 gallon buckets. Mostly to both drown the weeds completely before adding them to the compost and to recover minerals and maybe some nutrients from the weeds. I use 4 buckets 1 per month so basically the ferment is 4 months old when I open it up and in my climate, it's lost all its smell by then. Maybe check your drums 6 months in. I totally agree about using it on the ground and not the leaves too. Thanks for explaining the reasons you've changed your method. Cheers!

[@gardenlikeaviking]

thats a solid plan in the right conditions my friend but here with the harsh winters the decomposition virtually stops 6 months of the year!

[@eden3d609]

Last year I began Jadam method (thanks to you) and it worked, and of course I had those buckets and brews for a year now not adding anything. Results this year using the digested ferments, plants look great! (of course this is only anecdotal but it makes me see clearly where you are coming from)

[@gardenlikeaviking]

really the anecdotal is what its all about in the gardening game!

[@NuuyomaPN]

My conclusion is that, all organic wastes should be well Fermented. I do this in my biogas digester. I have a primary digester for first digeston and a secondary digester for re digestion. What you get out is a rich bioslurry in a form of tea. Its odorless and pest repellent. The NPK is about 2 :1.8 :1.5 I has been following you for some time now and according to what i have learned, i decided to charge biochar with natural microbes from forest and from the sea (seaweed). Since biochar can work for more than 100 years, i add it once and keep applying the bioslurry. With that, i believes that the natural cycles and condition is complete. No pathogens No pests No chemicals beyond natural requirements No smells.

[@monivoler]

Oh thank you for this... Just can't do the smell of decomp ruining the peaceful, beautiful time out in the garden at all! What a blessing to have a wonderful alternative in the aerated compost tea :)

[@CanineResources]

Great production Nate! Thank you Viking

[@Look-to-NatureHomestead]

Like the willow; bend, never break... learning and adjusting is just the name of the game. Love it!

[@thesoundofwheat]

I had a young dying evergreen near my beginner's ferment station (where I keep my rainwater and buckets) and every now and then I'd throw what was left around the roots. It came back to life with vigor! I'm glad you made this video!

[@hectorflores3147]

You have to make the jadam wetting agent in order to apply then on the leaf’s , foliar sprays . I feel like we need to re study the jadam book lots of hidden information, I’ve had to re read lots of the stuff in there in order for me to understand more of it .

[@Elementaldomain]

Many people in life approach situations with a wing and a prayer attitude. Asian methods of anything at all are approached with patience and longevity in mind…..we don’t have a get rich quick mindset 😂. Anything worth doing, is worth doing well. The Foundation must be strong to hold up the building. It is nice to see the occasional Westerner “get it”. ❤

[@doloinc]

Wetting agent is literally just liquid soap. The soap breaks the surface tension of water, allowing it to stick to leaves and reduces runoff of solutions. There isn't magical science behind it's function, nor does it reduce the pathogenic potential of anaerobic bacteria (unless combined with antimicrobials like JADAM sulfur, microorganism solution or herbal solution).

[@Expat_Jimmy]

I'm so glad I've found this video before I started applying for JLF's to my plants. Will make sure I let them sit out for a year first.

[@CinnamonBear-xv4eq]

This is great because I really love the idea of jadam - super low cost and can be scaled to fit any size garden or farm- I love this solution to the smell problem

[@smas3256]

I love this method. So good to know. Last fall hubby covered garden with compost and topped with 3X's chopped oak and maple leaves. Heavy rains last winter. Transplants and directly sown seeds loving the garden. Worms are loving garden too. End of May already.

[@AlvinKazu]

You mention at around 3:20 that once it's digested by the microorganisms then it's ready for the soil microbes to be made available for the plant... However, I've thought about this recently... and my thoughts are that these fermented fertilizers are already ready and "Plant Available," and the microbes CAN feed off of it, but the Plants can as well, because it's already been "processed" by the microbes in the buckets/etc. My thoughts are if we put bones in the ground, we have to have the microbes work them, but if we make our own fermented bone fertilizer, then it should be bioavilable for the plants right away. This is also why FOLIAR FEEDING with these nutrients works, because they are already plant-available. It's such a complicated subject, and it's really hard to know when everything is "ready," but I've seen some instant changes after feeding/watering which means it HAS TO be available right away... Because in reality.... How long does it take microbes to break down this stuff? The fertilizers take at least a month or so to ferment(maybe less, as regular ferments like kraut/pickles can be a week or so, but that's not fully digesting/breaking down), So it would take awhile for plants to react if just feeding. Hence why for many, Organics(these fertilizers) take time, because of what they are adding and how "broken down and available" these nutrients are. But if it's available, it should work within a few hours. This happened to me recently on a plant which had what looked like "Potassium" Deficiency. I thought it was heat/light issues as the leaves on top were crispy, but it seemed to be potassium. After a good feed it seemed to work. ----------------------- I also realized that since I had fed the last 2 times by DUMPING 5 gallon buckets of nutrients/water, instead of using my sprayer, a lot of it leaked out, so it makes me think a lot of my nutrients were washed to the lower part of the grow-bag, where roots might not be. It's interesting, because the first time didn't seem to show issues, and then the second time there weren't issues for a few days, but my plants just started flowering and fruiting, so I believe that is the reason... Still 2 days after that feeding was wild. No more dumping for me, bad idea! Makes the water RUSH out.

[@cbak1819]

My parents used to put wet grass in plastic bags and leave them for 3 months.. woo wee did it stink.. but once it was fermented they used it for mulch.. huge plants and veg produced.. never saw any diseases. I wish Dad was still here to show me that method.

[@hunknstuff]

Love your channel, thanks for the knowledge!

[@stonecreek1929]

Great info based on experience!! thank you!! ❤

[@shawnmurphy282]

Thanks for the update Nate. I have a barrel of chicken poop behind the shed that I forgot about, made it last summer. I was about to chuck it but now I think Im going to investigate and see if its still good.

[@mwmingram]

This makes sense to me. It's basically the same underlying principle as using mature aerobic compost. If you use aerobic compost on the soil which isn't fully broken down, it will leach Nitrogen from the soil UNTIL the bacteria have completed the breakdown process, and only then will it contribute.

[@tangokaleidos1926]

slow release fertilizer

[@OldWorldPetPortraits]

Thank you for the update. I have a manure bucket brewing. We’ll see what it looks like next year. Meanwhile, I have killed THOUSANDS of snails and slugs in my garden over the last week. Last time I went out to use up the last of my Ultimate Slug Solution, I had trouble finding any, even looking under mulch. That ought to set them back a little while and give my seedlings a chance at life.👍

[@gardenlikeaviking]

yes!!... the USS is so oddly satisfying!!

[@terrijuanette486]

You are SPOT ON. You should not use anything for your plants that hasn't finished 'digesting'. Once the bacteria, etc, has finished their work it won't smell bad and only then is it ready for use. I'll add one more thing, if you add water to it and let it sit, it will smell again! It will start the process of digestion all over again. So, only add as much water as you need for that use. (That's been my experience.) BUT... I'm not sure you need to wait an entire year. I would check it routinely to find out. If it doesn't smell bad, it's ready for use.

[@lolitabonita08]

just to bent...i planted my garden, eating my pesticide free food...and then in March i had new neighboors move on the back side of my patio....then i found a white poweder and i though that was polen...then i found more with blue spakles...well maybe someone burn trash and ended up here...However, i started to get sick and sick and sicker...i was consuming two leafs of tulsi directly from my garden and then make tea as my first cup of tea of the day. any how I went and ask God to tell me what was wrong with me because i was feeling super sick as the day progressed. any how the next day i hear the voice telling to stop using tulsi. I was consuming dry tulsi that i processed the second week of April...after two weeks i started to feel better and better...anyhow i was consuming my tomatoes, green beans and blueberries directly from the plants. After i was told not to use more tulsi is like my brain opened. I noticed a thick layer of that white poweder with the blue "pearls" and I though that the district never sprayed anything like that for mosquitos (Texas pest)...so one day my friend took me to pick up my senior box and I asked her if she noticed the white powder with blue beads..she immediately say "No"..."What are u talking about?" I came home, water my plants and then i played Sherlock Holmes...voila...half of my entire patio had the pesticide...fig trees, apple trees, every thing was sprayed...follow the pattern and that pointed out to my new neigbors. Now..need proof...i am buying cameras to catch them in the act, I am so upset...how is that possible that people do that without my consent, or ask if they can.... I do not use pesticides, nor insecticides everything is natural and organic and her it comes idiots messing up my food and poison without me even knowing. Investigate the symptoms of pesticide poison and I have 99 percent of them...plus the headaches, the stomach ache and the feeling of fainting all day long... So people watch out...pay attention to what is landing in your vegies...if this happen to me it can happen to other people...Even my dogs were getting sick...Lola acting up and shaking ...Lucy throwing up every single day...Raz (big boy) change his behavior, no more running around chasing squirls, just there...and Chloe...no problem because she is blind, deaft and does not go out much...so there u have it...

[@lostpony4885]

Seems like you might have mitigated that a little by removing the poison you could see, if you had known. I hope you find resolution thats awful. Id be so sick and angry.

[@AlvinKazu]

~I hope you can catch and get these POS in jail for posioning and `harming your property. I am lucky that the house next door is empty. But the neihgbors 2 down were complaining about hte grass and now some guy comes to spray groundup or some other super poison, because the last stuff that apparently was glyphosate wouldn't kill the little shrubs she had, but this guy's stuff kills EVERYTHING including grass. So far it seems he isn't getting close to my stuff. But damn I would be FUMING if I was you. We also have a ton of pesticide lawn spraying here too. So I'm glad no neighbor for that. OTher side nieghbor does that... uh.

[@AlvinKazu]

In reality, I would call the police and tell them someone is poisoning your food, and you have found "white powder" on your property/food, and don't know what it is. If they send a team to test it out maybe you could not only get law enforcement involved, but also see if you can get it figured out without having to send away for tests or something. Plus the police would have it on file,e tc.

[@shawnmurphy282]

Dude, Im glad you are getting into more advanced potions and concoctions. Good on you.

[@gardenlikeaviking]

thank you my friend... AACT and the like is actually how it all started for me many years ago but I just loved how simple and cheap JADAM was so thats what we started with on the channel but now its time to move deeper!!!

[@hiroyopoetker]

Spectacular information! Thank you greatly!

[@mariejankowski9894]

Thank you so much for sharing your experience and information with us!! 💕

[@tiarianamanna973]

Thats interesting! Thanx for experimenting and observing 😊

[@kregeckert8351]

Thank you for making this update video.

[@brianseybert192]

I used to actually aerate my comfrey fermented liquid before applying to the soil, smelled like a sewage treatment plant in my garage, I no longer do that. I just apply to the soils, as is. I also do more extracts (worm castings and aged compost) than teas for foliar treatments. Using more Lab this year as well. Many of the microbes that thrive in the aquatic environment of a aerated tea quickly die in the soil, many do not. The extracts put pure biology into the soils and on the plants in my opinion. Just harvested over 90 pounds of castings from one 50 gal grow bag bin I had in the basement over the winter, no shortage of fresh worm castings for sure. Another informative video. Stay Well!!!

[@rnupnorthbrrrsm6123]

Nice, would you share what kind of worm setup you have ? Thanks

[@brianseybert192]

@@rnupnorthbrrrsm6123 I have several types of bins, grow bags, plastic totes and a new CFT bin I started in January. My favorite is the grow bags, never a problem with moisture. Totes are fine and dandy, but with large volume, potential problems with going anaerobic. My new CFT bin is really rockin, worms super happy and fat. I am a HUGE advocate of natural bedding, pre composted leaves, and partially finished hot compost my go too. I look at my worm castings under the microscope, it is like a zoo. I have a small channel , "Brian's Garden" take a look. Stay Well!!!

[@gardenlikeaviking]

I would love to see some pictures and explanations of the worm setup that got you that much yield!!

[@brianseybert192]

@@rnupnorthbrrrsm6123 Will Let you know when I post my next worm video.

[@brianseybert192]

@@gardenlikeaviking Will Let you know when I post my next worm video.

[@freebirdg6873]

Thanks Nate Im excited to make a few barrels of this for next year’s garden. I did a barrel about 4 months ago and it still smells horrible looking forward to fresher smelling fertilizer. I also love the fish brown sugar recipe, I love feeding my plants with homemade fertilizer you rock my friend 👍❤️🙏🏼

[@pakistanis1782]

Wait 6 more months and you will smell a fresh soil odor.

[@GrowIt-dg6jk]

The anaerobic decomposition of organic matter causes it to lose part of the nitrogen and part of the phosphorus, while the aerobic method makes it lose part of the nitrogen only. For me, the best method is aerobic inside an open pail with a perforated piece of cloth on it that allows air to enter and prevents insects from entering. If an air pump is installed, it will be better and the fertilizer is left for at least 6 months or a year. The fertilizer must be completely decomposed, because if it does not decompose, it will continue to decompose in the soil, and this means fungal diseases, nematodes, and many other diseases that weaken the plant.

[@SuperTinker41]

Thank you so very much for the information on Compost Tea

[@rojilander7212]

Thanks for the clarification...Some ideas take generations

[@thomasknuth4692]

Mr Viking, been watching you KZbin videos from the start. I use drip tape under weed fabric. I only use the teas, lacto and fish emulsions (all from your recipes) in my fertilizer injector. It all flows directly to root. No smell. Still using the original teas from the barrel I started 3 years ago. They only smell if I stir them. I only spray the pepper extracts for pests. Since I went to weed fabric...my insect problems reduced by 90%.

[@gardenlikeaviking]

you are doing it the absolute best possible way my friend keep it up!!

[@rjaquaponics9266]

5:03 I thought you were going to drink that stuff LOL

[@gardenlikeaviking]

lol you should know better!!!

[@TheProdigalGardener]

I like this idea. Thanks for sharing!

[@masteraus66]

I agree my dad has been growing peppers for 10 years, and while he was out of town, I gave his peppers JLF last year to the soil only, and they all got diseased and were stunted which has never happened before in those 10 years. I'm thinking it would be safer to just add JLF to aerobic teas, maybe?

[@jimginnyohio]

Nice! Makes sense. Will give it a try. My wife and nose will like that!

[@bryanarie258]

This is great news! Selling the stinky stuff to the wife in the garden is problematic lol This will bring more smiles and less glares. As always thanks for the knowledge my Viking friend :)

[@gardenlikeaviking]

lol get on the AACT train my friend it smells of fresh baked bread!!

[@StefaniStevensBand]

I’m the woman of the home, garden and I create these potions… I love the alchemy!

[@jeffbrown2646]

If ur into making bio-char, try dumping some pre- innoclulated charcoal say from a firepit into the weed barrel..does absorb a lot of the odors & innoclulates it with future nutrition.

[@aguacatehasscanarias8199]

This video was very good for me. I don't like the Jadan method because of the smell it has. I have also been experimenting and now I only used the JMS microbial solution that does not have a bad smell. I also came to think about what you said about pathogenic bacteria, if they could attack no only to the leaves as you say but also to the roots I have my doubts I still do not understand how these methods work and how famous it is without having tested like you iso and seeing that it can cause problems in the leaves. Thank you very much for this video and I am sure that This is the correct way to do it, the bad thing is that you have to wait a long time but it is worth it for the safety of our plants and crops if not we will always have the wonderful compost and worm castings hahaha greetings from Spain

[@myfitstoreuk5608]

Great video, as always ,thank you

[@KimWilliamsystunisia]

Thanks for sharing your knowledge .

[@user-mi4du9rd1j]

I make my fermented "weed tea" "liquid compost" a year ahead of time, too. It's definitely worth the wait. I won't REALLY know what's in it until I find an affordable lab to test it.

[@nikitavanhoose405]

This is why our ancestors, way before we had garden centers, or fertilizer companies existed, they all had compost piles, and we all should to. Make yourself a ben, or even just a pile and layer it with dead leaves and fresh grass clippings and table scraps, and fruits straight from the garden that over ripen, or get pest damage and even the plants that get pulled and harvested. Also add a bunch of chicken manuer and keep the pile moist and turn and mix from time to time, and keep it tarped to keep in heat and humidity. At the end of the growing season every year, you will end up with a huge pile of dark, lummy, plant root heaven to add into your garden plot, which adds all kinds of nutrients and plant material to your soil, which the soil microbiology will love. The homemade fish fertilizer and wood ash are great, but I find the fermented fruit and vegetable fertilizer to be unnecessary anyways.

[@lanettelawrence6308]

This is how I’m doing my fertilizer in my buckets, I couldn’t explain it. Thanks for this fyi.

[@jSheapullen]

Im with you! Thank you ❤️

[@luisviera3482]

I love all you're videos and agree with you in a lot the only thing I would do differently is every fertilizer I would do even the compost tea I would only use it on the ground not on the leaves I just let the rain water take care of the foliage

[@jamestomlin5525]

And you can dilute your jlfs as much as 500 times if you wish, it's all about experimenting and seeing what your plants can tolerate

[@aaronhopkins6697]

Yes it's amazing the difference between fresh or aged. It turns plant matter, fish, prawn shells, fruit and skins and water into a black magic liquid nutrient for your soil. I have just been doing an experiment with between an expensive commercial liquid fertilizer and my own fresh and aged liquid nutrients. My out come so far is that mine is definitely out performing the expensive one.

[@jerrybates5766]

Growing in knowledge and technique all the time. Thanks for sharing your pursuit.

[@gardenlikeaviking]

thats right my friend I know you understand the distillation process here!

[@gratefulgreyman]

The fact that it all gets liquified lets you understand how hot it can really be. Apply jadam to soil in dilution only if it hasnt been fully digested

[@daveshanks8205]

I really found this interesting thanks.

[@evilroyslade2491]

Last year's fish, Urine, and plant material barrels are over a year old with a slight odor. Last year, when I started the ferments my friends would scream and jump back when I opened them. LOL

[@moxiejohnson4090]

Oh and all the sludge at the bottom of the bins i put on top of the soil to seep in over winter ready for next year. You can actually do the same with the stuff from a septic tank. Same, same but different! 😂

[@fyrerayne8882]

awesome, thanks man

[@Freakazooll]

Thank you!

[@rjaquaponics9266]

"Decomposition vs gardening". Your new plan is sound.

[@StefaniStevensBand]

Oh can’t wait to hear! I have a bucket and I’ve been using.

[@Beardqt]

same! i did not realize just how bad it was going to smell in a small bucket haha

[@gratefulgreyman]

😂

[@YasChosenChild_70]

All I use for my fertilizer-rain 😅water & some tap, weeds in yard, & Starbucks coffee grounds! My gard😅en has been 0:18 BEAUTIFUL FOR A FEW YEARS NOW ❤

[@YasChosenChild_70]

Oh, & CRUSHED RED PEPPER 😊TO PREVENT ALL BUGS, rodents, 0:18 etc. ITS TRUE!!!❤

[@YasChosenChild_70]

NOT ONE BUG OR RODENT OR ANIMAL INVASION!!!

[@briankubik5041]

Again why isn't anyone using charcoal to absorb the smell... If you have a moisture issue if you have smell issues (Charcoal) at the end of the year we dump it out on the garden. Gives the microbial food over the winter. We did that last winter we aren't growing on that garden this year but have cover crop on it trying sun hemp / soybean

[@AlvinKazu]

It's hard to tell, because I basically `do a bunch of different methods with my fertilizers. I have a bucket of weeds/plants in a bucket that `has been breaking down for about a year now, but I stil have been using it this entire time. I made another couple of buckets that i want to turn into Fermented Plant Juice.` Most of my other fertilizers have added LABS(Kefir/Milk/etc from my "dairy" bucket), coupled with molasses or sugar cane juice to get the fermentation going. This allows a nice layer of mold, etc on top of the bucket, and a nice fermented product.

[@Mr.HarkMenry]

I always associated Anaerobic with harmful microorganisms to plant and soil. I rather keep it that way 👀 + aerobic is always faster (why wait a whole year when 21 days is enough to make *ready to use* compost) Dr. Elaine Ingham’s composting method is a good way to start. Might be sensitive to the many variables within it but once mastered it’s hard to beat. Unless you’re after the fungal dominant type of compost like Johnson-Su method (also aerobic). Keep up the good work my friend 👍

[@tangokaleidos1926]

lactobaccilus ---> yogurt

[@cnapo1]

Thanks this confirms my own observations as well concerning the Jadam anaerobic brews, I haven’t tried the aerobic ones just got the pump so I will try it but from all the research looks good, I been growing my worms and I can say worm castings are amazing I see a big difference when I add it to the plants (they need to be fresh) I love your videos yes knowledge keeps evolving, gardening is more lie an art than science 😊

[@jeffmeyers3837]

What do you use for worm bedding? I never end up with the beautiful, small grained stuff, always chunky.

[@cnapo1]

@@jeffmeyers3837 hi I use shredded cardboard and leaves also I dump all my Coffee and mate (I drink a lot of mate ) check out Gardens of New England channel I pretty much use his system except he feeds them Bokashi I don’t but what I really I got from him is how to harvest the castings so simple get a bunch of castings don’t worry if they are still chunky put it In a fine kitchen sifter and shake it in water what ever does not pass you put it back watch his channel for visual. By the way mine is also a bit chunky who cares I am looking for biology to be reintroduced into the soil.

[@Elementaldomain]

I add my vegan worm castings to the JADAM weed, cover crop mixture, at the beginning of growing season….4 quarts to a 35 gallon reservoir…then 4 more quarts half way thru the season. Our season is long here in the desert…9 months, so others with shorter seasons can just add one initial addition, in Spring.

[@Elementaldomain]

@@jeffmeyers3837more than likely it is the type of worm bin you are using. The plastic layer ones are problematic. I moved to the Urban worm bag and it’s much much better. The plastic ones produce too much liquid, causing it too chunk up

[@jeffmeyers3837]

@@Elementaldomain I have the Urban Worm bag, actually 2 of them that's what I'm using. Got 2000 worms from Uncle Jim's 6 months ago. Worms looking good and eating, but castings I get from bottom look like wood chips mixed with moist mud. Bin is moist but not overly wet, worms never try to escape, doesn't go anaerobic, drips a little from the bottom but not a lot. I just can't seem to get those beautiful castings I see people harvesting online, so I figured must be the bedding I use. Any ideas?

[@graemedevine9651]

I've just added 2 trout to my fish barrel as all the fish had gone over the past year, I'll leave it for this year and just do compost teas and JMS etc this year, I think my slug beer traps have demolished the slug population as I'm not getting anywhere near the amount of slugs in the traps now, still a bit nervous about putting out my plants but I'm going for it tomorrow, was speaking to a girl at the garden centre today while I was getting more traps, she said if you throw slugs away they find their way back again as a friend had marked them and some of them came back, they're relentless wee buggers.

[@rnupnorthbrrrsm6123]

The best thing I have found for slugs is laying pieces of copper pipe around in the garden rows, it works like magic !!! I gather odds and ends of copper pipe from the dump then cut the faucet knobs or whatever off and put pieces all around.

[@crankybanshee3809]

I used to "relocate" snails. Then I discovered that they have a homing instinct which would require their new "home" to be as much as 2 km away if I didn't want them coming back. I got chickens.

[@erialbar]

For fastening processing U can add rice or rice husk

[@albertopetrangeli6834]

Great video Nate. Ok for JLF, but what about JMS? Can we still apply to the leaves both with JWA or compost tea? Thank you

[@edcat6587]

Makes sense to me. I always though anaerobic was not the best for plants after trying it once,and smelling it....... An idea i was thinking of was doing the same ingredients,but adding air with a pump,like making mollasses aerobic tea.....have you tried that?seems like one would get a mix of aerobic an anaerobic,unless one had a very large capacity pump. One could perhaps even use a direct solar powered pump,but maybe the anaerobic would be the dominant strains then?(cause it would only be aerated during sun hours)

[@rjaquaponics9266]

Anaerobic material decomposition should never be used for gardening directly and/or until it is completely done and/or diluted to a safe pH of 6.2, and then only used on the soil as Mr. Viking says. There are exceptions for every case but you must be experienced to know the difference.

[@butterflyj685]

I let my Jadam sit for a year then I use a compost tea bubbler to aerate for 48hours before adding to the garden. I started doing that after Matt Powers discussed that Elaine Ingram the Soil expert says anaerobic compost is very bad for soil and plant life.

[@Change-Maker]

The answer lies in Em-1...bokashi... basically Facultative bacteria....that can survive both aerobic and anarobic conditions.... Fermentation instead of putrificarion. Concists of mainly: lacto bacibillus, yeasts and purple non sulfuric bacteria. This is the same stuff that tera preta (Amazon's amazing fertile soil) contains.

[@palitroki]

i was about to say same thing jadam on foliar fills my peppers with alternaria. I’m making biochar with it and it’s actually looking good. then added onde horse dung and now ir all smells like horsepoop so I’m waiting it off again. 8 months ferment. grass, some lemon verbena leaf and some fruits in it too

[@jon1204]

NATE!!! The everything fertilizer will carry the microorganisms that’ll make the symphylans life hell!? I think worth a try. Doesn’t it make sense? Use them to actually deplete the oxygen or change the soil for the symphylans. I’m going to try it as I made the everything fertilized / “fertilizer from weeds” last spring from the first growth we had in Pittsburgh PA zone 6b which works like magic this year by the way thank you. What magic leaf mold contains, and the perfection of the life in the soil is beyond mind blowing. Are plants one living being or are they the infrastructure for multiple consciousnesses? They are electrically charged and covered in microorganisms like us after all! Learning more respect for nature daily. Thank you Nate especially for the garden tour. I’d love to have you look at my garden and just tell me what you’d recommend and your honest opinion. Do you do consulting also?

[@andyyount2731]

Someone should experiment with making JLF anaerobic tea with bokashi microbes instead of leaf mold. Bokashi outcompetes all pathogenic bacteria and could potentially make a version of JLF that is safe to use after a month of fermentation. Bokashi anaerobic compost does not smell putrid, but it does have a vinegary pickled smell to it. I just made a batch of JLF the traditional way but I would like to experiment now with bokashi to see if it makes a difference. There would be a very low initial cost of purchasing the microbes, but these can of course be multiplied and cultures once you have them.

[@doloinc]

Leaf mold contains all the same microbes as bokashi, which is technically called IMO3. The difference in JADAM is the liquid fermentation process, which encourages anaerobic bacterial colonies over aerobic bacterial and fungal colonies. It's simpler in it's implementation but has proven to be more problematic. The generation of bokashi is technically an aerobic process.

[@cmayoral65]

Hi Nate, i have done the anaerobic fermentation since last september following your original video with 2 big barrels and never used since. I opened last week and man! The stench was unbearable! So I suppose even after 9 months it still needs to decompose more. I won't use it until the putrid smell disappear. Let's see how long it will take. It would be useful in your videos if you could bring some info on the composition of the mix, percentages of Nitrogen, potassium etc. Measured before and after. Cheers

[@StefaniStevensBand]

Ok, whew! I used after it sat for 6 months! That’s better!

[@Crashbangable]

I transferred mine to 5 gal buckets to finish in the basement through last winter. Smell went away some but the empty buckets still stink after washing and days out in the sun. Im with you the smell isn’t worth dealing with.

[@tomatito3824]

Same here. The finished product is good but the empty containers are impossible to clean. Nowadays I just add compost on top of the soil and water immediately (so like a compost extract in situ).

[@jeffmeyers3837]

The residual smell is due to the "bio slime" left by the microbes. It is like a cement and nearly impossible to get rid of. This is the same think they use to attach themselves to the plant leaves when you spray them on FYI, pretty cool.

[@nic.h]

Try sloshing some LABS in the bucket and leaving for a few days, should reduce the smell some.

[@rnupnorthbrrrsm6123]

Just use that same bucket for your next batch.

[@crankybanshee3809]

To get food smells out of reusable plastic containers you put the clean containers in the freezer for 24-48 hours so this might be something to experiment with if it gets cold enough in your part of the world (or you have an exceptionally large freezer).

[@robclower9606]

Thank you for clearing this up. Would you recommend including this as an additional ingredient to aerated compost teas? Do you think the aeration would help to further kill or force dormancy on any pathogenic microbes?

[@gardenlikeaviking]

they are two separate things in my opinion and experience now... the ACT is for microbial diversity and very low in actual nutrients.... the JLF is all about nutrients and still I would not apply to the leaves any JLF anymore

[@Frank2314-y1z]

Can I put Jada’s weed tea and chicken manure all in same barrel Since I don’t have much room for 2 barrels? Ty master Viking you’re the highlight of the week

[@jamestomlin5525]

Yes you can! A diverse mix of ingredients will only prove to be a much better end result of fertilizer:]

[@gardenlikeaviking]

yes you can put it all in the same barrel but once its full seal it and just let it sit for at least 6-8 months preferably a year as you saw here

[@harvey195]

Nate, your one year barrel contents reminds me of swamp water and swamp mud. Do you compost the solids from the barrel afterwards?

[@Raul28153]

That's been my approach. I stole the idea from how fish sauce is made. they just let it rot and rot and rot and rot till there's nothing left to rot.

[@tinabarton2938]

Question, I live in michigan with harsh winters. To leave your ferments for the year. Is it drained down to 30 percent also to keep from freezing then or are you only making a smaller amount in the barrel then capping and leaving for the year? Thanks so much.

[@aguacatehasscanarias8199]

The best Jadam metod is a solucion microbial JMS is not bad smell

[@bariaissa1737]

Thank you I came to that conclusion when I applied the solution and most of my plants died. So I stopped doing that. Live and Learn

[@gardenlikeaviking]

lol thats about all the evidence a person needs right there!!

[@DaveE99]

I wonder when it runs its course what the solids left tech are, are they tech like a broken down hummus type thing then? You could prob add this then after ward to an aerobic composting process after and really use it if you wanted.

[@warriorofgodfitness488]

I just started watching but I have had good results on my transplants using my JADAM over a year old but recently added chicken manure and wood chips to it.

[@lauretteschannel776]

Are you able to keep the barrel full during the winter when it freezes without cracking the plastic or do you have to take it into a warmer environment?

[@danmeaden8213]

Nate what would you say about your fish jadam? What would be a good indication of sufficient digest? Aware that it is animal remains but my fish jadam is 17 months old and still smells lf death/sewerage. Eveverthting is fully digested except cartilage and roots. Have been using and found really good results although have been concerned about pathogens and maybe how to possibly stabilise it. Approximately 40-50L of jadam.

[@nancynesytofreske]

Thanks for this great video. Where do you get your 55 gallon drums?

[@Elementaldomain]

Check your local feed store. Most horse owners use them, as well as farmers like myself. Fifty five gallon blue food grade barrels don’t come with a removable top…you will have to cut it yourself.

[@Stock_em_up]

Can you make a video on lawn care?

[@dnawormcastings]

Looks great now 🇳🇿❤️

[@vc5243]

This is somewhat discouraging as I've been excited to use Jadam and I just started. So far the results have been great. I am curious what exactly you encountered that was a problem, what diseases and pests, and why do you think it was the Jadam that caused it?

[@tamarackartstudio7893]

Don’t listen to this guy a lot of this info is wrong. If you follow the minimum fermentation periods in the book you’ll never have problems.

[@vc5243]

@@tamarackartstudio7893 I've read the Jadam book and I'm just starting out. But I have to say that the photos of their farm and produce in the book are exemplary. They look like they have a beautiful, healthy and successful farm.

[@gardenlikeaviking]

don't be discouraged my friend the main take away from this video is : use JADAM ferments on the soil only.... it would take me several hours to discuss all the findings and experiences over the years that have made me adjust my sails in this regard

[@Elementaldomain]

Wisdom dictates that what works for someone, may not work for someone else. The same applies to problems. I believe he lives in the South, or at least somewhere humid. So he has problems that might be geographic location problems. I am vegan…..40 years now….and also only use vegan JADAM concoctions. I have never had a problem of any kind….everything on my desert farm is lush and abundant. It is not necessary to use non vegan fertilizers if someone doesn’t want to for one reason or another. The use of non vegan products or ingredients is ALWAYS going to come with a potential pathogen/disease problem.

[@vc5243]

@@Elementaldomain Interesting. I wonder if that is a factor. I also have a desert farm and I'm also all vegan so far on the fertilizer mixes and will stay that way.

[@ConvertDirt]

Awesome

[@Justin-ct9he]

So can i leave my barrels or buckets full for the winter so i can use it next year or should i still be draining it down so it doesn't break the barrels or buckets?

[@8aGardeningInClay]

My man!

[@macks573]

I have not experienced any extreme effects of the anaerobic fermentation. The difference that I can see is that I don't spray it on the leaves. Just pour a certain amount on the soil. I personally don't like wetting the plants itself. The results have been fabulous, everything is so lush and green in my garden. Also, I dilute it 1:50 as mentioned when I first saw it on your channel. The smell is there but not overwhelming. Any thoughts?

[@edifying]

I have not experienced any negative effects either. Like you, I dilute it 1:50 and never apply it to the leaves. One of the experiences that made me feel like giving the JADAM methods a try was growing up on a farm where we had a 50-foot tall, 16 foot diameter silo. All silos like this had a drainage hole in the bottom, and as the weight of the silage pressed down, a great deal of liquid would be released. We dug a channel to drain the liquid away from the silo to avoid having a large stinking pond form. The vegetative growth along this channel was something to witness. We farmed very fertile bottom land but nothing grew any bettor than those weeds along that ditch.

[@chantallachance4905]

You say put it on the garden soil The compost tea is it nutrish for the leaf like salad or it will be good also for radishes or carrot or tomatoes plant with tomatoes on the plant

[@gardenlikeaviking]

when made exactly like I show in my compost tea video then yes it is beneficial to add to all plant leaves at any time

[@user-zu4nf5sl7t]

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[@improvatron2020]

I agree with this process. It freezes where I live. And the barrels popped the lid. Do I just use less water?

[@paulbraga4460]

actually, the stench can be avoided by simply putting an airlock. still considered anaerobic fermentation. perhaps check SUPER MAGRO biofertilizer videos here in youtube. the enriched super magro gives complete nutrition and it can be used for soil drench and foliar...blessings to all