I Was Completely Wrong About These

[@JBRider]

This is the First time ever in Crossout where a new Weapon disappointed me this much, that I just wanted to stop recording with it on how horrible it feels to use.

[@01oo011]

Jubokko

[@Bl3Moze]

I don’t know JB, I still love crossout for what it is but still, the way this game has been managed throughout the years and then still seeing crap like this with the devs and the game. It’s sad, makes a person not want to play. It’s like that’s what the devs want. You would think for as long as the game has been out, that the devs would lean and do better. But nope, seems not. Also though, what do I know, I’m just some dumb player.

[@eyespyyourspy1328]

Kami cab feature? Like day 6 or 7 now. Oh try the swarm on Omni wheels, they function way better

[@JBRider]

@01oo011 This felt worse with the jubjub I already knew it was bad. This one, i really felt the disappointment 😞

[@PaulMats]

slaughtener is no better

[@HighNoone]

Devs cant even build, they dont know how to turn the highlighted pins on in build mode. That shows they dont spend enough time testing, building and adjusting the wepons they introduce. They wait until the number come through the gameplay. Perfect example was the hadron bug with reload weps, it has happened three times. You would think after the first time they would test the hadron after introducing any new reload module or weapons.

[@XSatoro]

imagine spending 8hrs a day looking at code and testing if the game itself wants to even run, yeah, they dont have time for learning other parts of game so they leave it to testing team.

[@owl2975]

I'm part of the testing team and we don't test anything. In Minecraft I mean.

[@semberspirit]

A high skill cap weapon that literally cannot be fired at close range, and that deals less damage than the Mandrake and Heather, which are both barely played. These are practically useless in a game as fast as Crossout

[@g4m3rm0j0]

I feel like the swarms not only need to be mounted in the same direction like on your second build, but also in line instead of side by side.

[@miles4270]

One thing that really helps , is if you put a stacked tower of buggy pieces as tall as u can build. Gives you a birds eye view and makes aimimg alot easier

[@It-b-Blair]

I like a couple towers of van ramps. Really inexpensive parts, buggy stuff can be higher ps because of weight to durability.

[@It-b-Blair]

It’s definitely a weapon dependent on your skill of predicting the enemy’s movements, only good against ground targets, and need to keep range. Kapkan to lock enemies in place, or at least an ally with a couple. They have lots of potential, but not many weapons operate like these do.

[@XSatoro]

so its Casino weapon, predict a guy in a game where enemy can change direction of movement in 1s. Yeah sorry that doesnt work for me

[@slayerofnero6440]

Maybe need a different build style for these? Try a elevated scope (to fire from cover) & pair with a yeti/kap?

[@Jan-j9v]

I think the harpy cabin is better for the swarm missiles

[@ChimpOnComputer]

I imagined so after seeing the mechanics. But barely anyone touches the harpy for some reason.

[@Ravishrex1]

Lots of people use the Harpy on xbox ​@@ChimpOnComputer

[@o0L4nc3r0o]

Good to know! I think I'll stick with my upgraded Crickets. (Hover, Steppe Spider, KA-2 Flywheel) It may only be an Epic weapon, but it works perfectly fine in Hard Raids. :)

[@MrGoodAdvice35]

If they followed a laser Like the flutes they would be alot better

[@urabozomcgeee]

i feel like leaning your build forward, like with the horizontal mandrake to a lesser extent, would help a lot with hitting enemies at the same elevation

[@luckygun2140]

Gonna be brutally honest JB your aim was a bit off tho I do agree it needs a bit of work it would be a lot better if they increased the explosion radius and keep the spred the same or vise versa (as in reduce the spred and keep the explosion radius the same )

[@danbrit9848]

devs never seem to skill test ...the easy to use weapons get huge dpi but the ones hard to use get almost none ...its so fustrating

[@eyespyyourspy1328]

This is 💯. The easy to use stuff should have way lower dps than the skilled weapons. In no way shape or form should a harvester have more dps than any Canon in the game takes way more skill to shoot a cannon than to simply drive...

[@fulconini]

@@eyespyyourspy1328 harvesters are way worse right now than for example mammoths

[@HalIOfFamer]

​@@eyespyyourspy1328Tbf the harvester ain't the problem it's the durability of those builds and their relative speed. Stuff should not go this fast being this hard to kill and deal that much damage.

[@eyespyyourspy1328]

@@HalIOfFamer I was simply using the Harvester as an example.

[@fabioloi6815]

„I almost wanna cancel this video“ kills me 😂😂

[@mithurna99]

I think that weapon works better for an air-to-ground flyer. It's like pyres now, good luck hitting someone else who flies, but if you use it in a helicopter against terrestrials it's very effective.

[@PhotonKobold]

strikes me as a light armor stripping support role then something able to kill fast

[@G59MS6]

Maybe try them on a tower build to see over cover. Might be easier to aim on hilly surfaces

[@Murfy_]

seems like they'd be good on mech legs or a heli though tbf

[@shawnfoogle920]

Yes the new weapons are trash, which is a first. I'd rather the weapons come out weak than op. They will get a buff eventually i'm sure.

[@luckygun2140]

Also i just realized that the swarms are an effective means of CARPET BOMBING your enemies 🤣💀

[@JanStange-y4f]

Can't wait to get my hands on them so I can tell everyone they just have skill issues just like with flutes or tempuras

[@mithurna99]

maybe if they remove the area targeting mechanic and just have it be a tangle of missiles that can be launched in a cricket style, it would be better.

[@Revvnar]

Yeah, this weapon is only usefull against wide spider builds, since it's an AOE weapon, and not a traditional Cricket-like

[@war4thog741]

Yeah, as long as spiders are out of the meta and wheel builds dominate its pointless using a weapon like this

[@Chrusttee]

It's definitely a high-skill weapon. Your first build with the Torero was a better choice imo. Medium range, run and gun works well with the Swarm. You're not so dependent on leading the target at medium to close range and can really wreck people. Trying to snipe with it on any build is mostly a wasted effort unless you're teamed with a Kapkanner or someone with a skinner or even melee (who would generally be pinning a target.)

[@ghillieguy52]

I avoid using the step spider so it doesn't mess with my muscle memory when firing

[@01oo011]

Looks good to me. Rewards prediction, but definitely needs a kapkan.

[@PeugeotL-vm9iw]

your just wrong

[@o0L4nc3r0o]

@@PeugeotL-vm9iw *you're

[@Jfoxpurple]

@@PeugeotL-vm9iwyou’re just right*

[@Jfoxpurple]

@@PeugeotL-vm9iwyou’re just right*

[@RED_DEMON-j3c]

If swarm needs a kapkan then every single weapon needs a kapkan, kapkan just gets rid of the part that takes actual skill

[@climbingcaverns4479]

So what you're saying is you have to be in despair for swarms to work.

[@powderedweed1512]

you reconstruction backwards when naming parts on wheel and hover

[@Overseer_Yt.]

I would’ve never thought of placing them to the side 😮 seems like I still got a lot of learning to do 😅

[@B-U-T-C-H-E-R]

It does look like it will take awhile to get used to the weapon. The time it takes for the projectile to reach the target changes based on distance. Heather and mandrake the timing is roughly the same each shot

[@wintersworldgaming]

they seem to have something wrong with the projectile hit registration. the inconsistency seems to be from something like that, some of them hit sometimes other times just null hit. for their tier, they should be dealing a hell of a lot more dmg especially using 2 of them!

[@gorky3598]

Only consistent use i found for these is in leviathan battles. Leviathans are big and slow perfect targets. Mounting these on your leviathan makes it op too with the auto aim.

[@RED_DEMON-j3c]

I think swarms are intended for multiple targets instead of 1 like with incinirator or jotun, those weapons have a pretty decent zone attack and so does swarm

[@badfuzz]

Gooood.... Now they will be like 500 coins on the market. Youre doing gods work JB

[@PrivateForPersonalReasons]

Yo, rider, if you zoom in (using arc weapons) you actually get an increased view height, making it easier to predict and see where your enemies go!!!!

[@ddssrr1614]

What about a chopper swarm build. We must make this good. I purchased my first battlepass coz you said it was so good.

[@setname5502]

1 put there jackie 2 make stick on the build as high as possible, it will be easy to aim 3 use catalina or harpy on hover with odin and kapkan

[@kanashiusagi21]

15:33 literally me everytime I got a bad start of the match😂

[@Kragerles]

Poor JB sacrificing his will to play for our entertainment 😭

[@bombergob9319]

I honestly wonder if the accuracy boosting ain't hurting you more than it's helping. The rockets are supposed to lock onto whatever is in the circle, making it smaller just seems to make it harder to land shots. Both new weapons seem kinda meh though honestly. Guess I'll pick one randomly and hope it gets buffed later lol.

[@tostaydown]

They aren't intended to lock on. The circle shows where they will land. Decreasing that area means more missiles hit a smaller area. I don't know what gave you the idea that they lock on to a target.

[@ChimpOnComputer]

They do not lock onto anything, they're fire and forget, but only to reach that circle target. Lock on was the biggest farce I've heard about this weapon upon reveal.

[@mattzr1550]

get a whaler man

[@bombergob9319]

@@tostaydownProbably the part of the description that says it "Homes in on the area." I took that to possibly mean the projectiles lock onto w/e is in the circle but apparently not. I guess the other reason is because that would have made it somewhat unique instead of just a subpar artillery weapon.

[@bombergob9319]

@@mattzr1550 I already got a fused one. So if I don't want another copy of one of the new things I guess it's either the reaper or skadi.

[@BLKBRD-SR71]

Watching you struggle to use this weapon. Makes me wonder if I should even try it when I lvl up. I'm only lvl 10 but I'm playing more often. And getting better. Your videos have helped me improve, thanks so much.

[@torue8744]

They could make a part that gives these manual weapons (Mandrake, Heather, Jotun, ect) auto lock on.

[@mnu_tenobaal]

Swarms seem to be an amazing spider counter. Three swarm Catalina hover with some would probably shred any CW spider stack team. I don't think they are bad at all.

[@B-U-T-C-H-E-R]

I think they probably tweak these weapons a little. I think if they allow you to aim closer to your build, give the rockets a little more velocity, and increase the blast radius 50% or 75%

[@nickynigglburg-wo8mo]

The swarm seems to do better if it is paired with auto cannons or another type of rocket weapon like snowfall.

[@danbrit9848]

the rare rocket packs that shoot flat do more damage,,,come on devs

[@derrick_plays]

the damage seems ok, but it's hard to predict where the enemies would go. especially since everything in crossout is so fast these days. swarms could be a good fun alternate to the meta retcher tower in levi raids (i hope so)

[@The_Post-apocalyptic_Few]

Try swarm with mars cab Jackie cyclone and a co driver for rocket speed and damage

[@Jesus_Wojak]

It is a faster hurricane which can be dodged by anyone, not just hellicopters and it could do jack shit against said hellicopters.

[@Znonlygames]

Try using the new swarm launcher on a helicopter build. WAAAAY more consistent damage, and when you put a jackie on there with them, its game over😂

[@Znonlygames]

I notist it's all about the angles with the new rocket launcher

[@pone69]

appreciate the honesty man

[@tylerwhite3684]

Haha I feel like this is the first time I've have seen jb get really truly annoyed😂😂😂😂, love your content I have been watching your videos for years.

[@JBRider]

@tylerwhite3684 yup, it really was. It's such a cool looking weapon but just sucks to play, and it's not just me saying it. Same thing with the GLs. Those are slightly better but still a bit to weak for a legendary

[@solrshawn]

They are only as consistent as the user.

[@hazeysmokeakatrigr7340]

I built a build on Xbox with dual swarms and a ghost cabin with chameleon.. damage is disgusting but very tricky to get the weight perfect with enough durability and protection but if you get it right when you jump out of that cloak oooohh the damage baby!.

[@buildingseas]

Maybe use a different cabin and jay Co driver if that makes them fly faster?

[@JanStange-y4f]

He literaly uses Jay on both builds... this just shows what bad blind players I have to deal with on a daily basses. Luckily sometimes they are on enemy team and not mine

[@buildingseas]

@@JanStange-y4f damn. Definitely seems like swarm should be a little more effective

[@Bill_from_Nantucket137]

Do icebox works this these?

[@RED_DEMON-j3c]

10:50 you know it's bad when jb says that he almost wants to cancel the video

[@hjohn2]

Give it some time JB. It takes a while to master the timing/aiming/distance skills like the Arothron, Varun, and a couple others.

[@_0_0___]

THAT GROUND BUILD IS ON CONSOLE AS WELL xD, sry all caps. I literally downloaded this off the exhibition yesterday

[@Pancake_2000]

JB Swarms are so good if you can aim with them 😅 most of people cant

[@OlympicPerfo]

They really aren’t though. 1. They really only excel against large slow builds 2. dmg per volley is mediocre at best (and that’s IF you land every single rocket) 3. Reload speed isn’t something crazy 4. Projectile speed is fast but no where near impressive enough to make the weapon objectively “good” Overall, the weapon is incredibly underwhelming. Is it the worst legendary in the game? No, but it’s definitely a let down for what most were expecting prior to release

[@Anuwabu]

@@OlympicPerfo So the same problems as the 2 artillery weapons just far easier to land if not at extreme range.

[@danbrit9848]

please put out vids weather the test goes right or wrong it helps us decide what to spend credits on

[@183Rth]

the cabin buffs only course rockets, these are self guided rockets...

[@JBRider]

@183Rth i tested this on the test server, and it does reduce the spread, but apparently not the flight speed. I heard that it's a bug

[@aitorcorderomedina773]

One avalanche shot deals more damage lol

[@Ravishrex1]

Awesome cannon I got a fused one

[@kkxe8830]

17:39 name of the music here... maybe pls?

[@Tronnos840]

I think they tested the upgraded one only and it now performs like unfused

[@jasonwilliams1871]

swarm only work great on helicopter build in PVE. only ground build I used got 1.9k -2.7k damage was with two trombone

[@shawnfoogle920]

Best weapon is Arbiter (\hovers) Arbiters beat literally everything it seems, including the overrated cyclones.

[@Ravishrex1]

Agreed

[@RED_DEMON-j3c]

Could'nt have said it better myself

[@AshikSorel1]

Lucifer's aren't any better either. You can let out a Triple Volley Payload of Crickets faster than you would all twenty Missiles from a Lucifer, take advantage of the distance perk and do more damage. Where as with Lucifer's if you are only hitting the cabin you aren't getting any of the perk. It just has no finishing power. The recent Legendary Rocket weapons have been complete garbo imo.

[@brettmcclain9289]

Lucifer’s underslung on mech builds can work pretty well.

[@fulconini]

morta is good

[@derrick_plays]

it's probably a marketing strategy. it's probably all intended. "hey lets make trash guns in main bp, no one is gonna notice right away right! then, we can make a raijin cannon, make it op, and at the same time make uranium cc accessible" caching .....

[@RED_DEMON-j3c]

​@@fulconinimorta in indeed good but just like lucifer it has low finishing power

[@RED_DEMON-j3c]

​​@@derrick_playsfr, people manage to put raijin in 5k builds wich makes the game unfair and i sometimes wonder if that thing has been nerfed in the 1st place, same goes for cyclone and spectre 2, yokozuna on the other hand has been nerfed into the ground, why not do the same for raijin, cyclone and spectre 2

[@GeorgeGreenStyle]

I think they still have quite a potential. They need much more concentration than easier weapons but damage is decent. Gg

[@Neverfadeaway772]

.......try a new buff weapons like Kaiju i personally use can be yongwang elephant ect

[@everywherenowhere7832]

.. use a triple swarm on a helicopter build... you're welcome. 👊

[@Callme_MrMercy]

Yo jb I'm the guy who was requesting thyrsus, lol now I use cw helios, imps and gravastar dogs. BTW, I been in bedlam trying to have fun but get annoyed by punishers what is a cheap weapon to strip them

[@ra1n_mak3r]

some guns are just more fun then they are effective, with swarms i can get odd wobble shots and 200 dmg or they can pop off 4k white, literally hit or miss

[@georgep5880]

Does steppe work with swarm? They don't count as guided missile? I think theyre guided cause u got the aim circle

[@miles4270]

I have three and in the garage they are amazing. In the actual game.... ehhhj kind of hard to use.

[@BrotherDog]

Do they work better with the Phantom cabin?

[@Tronnos840]

Misses hit stronger than direct Hits😂

[@incinerati]

You mean, you gotta practice with a weapon to be good with it?! Yeah, that really sucks.

[@sleepy4450]

Yea he needs to realize this weapon is very different from other ones and that it's not a frontline weapon, like the mandrake and heather. It's not good when you push up and is best when you hang back. He missed a lot of shots and had times where only a few rockets hit and acted like it was bad when he also hit for 1500-3000 damage a good amount of times? I do think it should be less restrictive with the range that you cant fire at someone up close though

[@shawnfoogle920]

no, the weapons that require aim bot like abilities aren't worth it. Avalanche, artillery ect

[@zocker3_0]

​@@shawnfoogle920 Yeah bc people are too lazy to try to actually invest time into learning those weapons and rather play braindead bricks or overpowered raijind because you dont even need skill for those. I believe if one could use the swarm in a good way they would be easily dominating certain matches, but it would take the time to develop the skill, and thats what players dont want anymore, and thats really sad tbh

[@shawnfoogle920]

@@zocker3_0 not lazy, it's called smart, no reason to use the overly hard weapons. Especially since if you master them it's not like the damage is all that great anyways.

[@zocker3_0]

@@shawnfoogle920 "smart" ahahaha yeah for sureee Especially Artillery and the Swarms which you have mentioned here deal insane damage of you hit. And as you've seen Evan for example seems to have mastered the Mandrake because he can hit his shots and deal insane damage (literally in the video). So the literal video ur commenting under ks disproving your point. And it IS lazy. I have multiple builds in my lineup that took me a few days to understand how to use properly, it took me a while but once I got the hang of them they were super fun. And its probably gonna be the same thing with the Swarm, if you wanna be good at it, go fucking practice and dont annoy everyone else with ur braindead push w builds

[@Pacman_Mac]

JB please use these new BP items on mech builds . I think for one these are all made more with mechs in mind and with all the new players we are getting because the mech legs I'm sure people would love to see mech builds more right now . Much love .

[@tristanpoortenga4134]

Best builds with the new legs for under 6k power score?

[@simonhadley6965]

might be good for a heli build

[@LeonardoBiasin-yf9qr]

Waiting to see new grenade launcher ina action soon I hope to see if its worth it or not

[@teggsy2165]

Maybe they do better on a tall Mech build hovers too low.?🤔

[@Андрей-п8ь]

Delete or f add an ammo to shotguns! Hate this type of weapon. No skill, no efforts.

[@x_warhog_x8701]

lol no what was embarrassing was all those shots I was whiffing at the end of that match, granted I was on 3 wheels but still I was missing like a hurricant user......................lol but gg

[@angellx420]

JBRIDER I LOVE U AND UR VIDS U MAKE MY DAY🙏😩

[@justanotherbogan6198]

If you think these weapons suck try running bigrams now days. I just fused all mine in the last event and feel like the devs have molested my wallet and soul.

[@Ravishrex1]

Sold 4 on x box for 900 coin each. Rip bigram

[@justanotherbogan6198]

@Ravishrex1 I have in total 14 fused, took me years 😅

[@devastation9804]

Bro u complaining about the swarms they genuinely are not bad but wait till you try that new GL

[@shawnfoogle920]

New GL is better funny enough but still bad

[@Ravishrex1]

So lack luster for a legendary

[@devastation9804]

@@shawnfoogle920 keep in mind that GL suppose to be a GL not a cannon just think about that next time u play it compared to retchers that actually feel liks a GL and that weapon actually does NOTHING of damage compared to retchers like there’s literally 0 uses for that new GL

[@dimashtepa2652]

I me😊an it came with mechs so its probably for mechs

[@ericechevarria9196]

Yep noob use it with the new legs jump or dash is what it’s meant for in my opinion 😅

[@drtdcsec]

o no a weapon that takes skill and u cant play with 0 minutes experience (skill isue )

[@RED_DEMON-j3c]

Exactly, you cannot master a new weapon in 0.00000001 seconds and need to practice a bit in order to master the thing

[@shawnfoogle920]

i think these are better than the heathers tbh

[@HighNoone]

Jb upset gets me laughing 😂. Loving the negativity 🎉🎉

[@_M_O_E_]

6 icarus hovers on the ground build......😅

[@owl2975]

Try them on a helicopter

[@xout1990]

It's nothing compared to the crossout muramasa rellic

[@aksux]

The swarm would be better on the dinos but then you can't play normal pvp

[@vonlobo]

Damm i am more dangerus whit 3 nest 😂

[@rolfkraulein2903]

Do not build the swarms sideways, you will Always hit the walls and the swarms are still better then Tsunamis. You need mor practice with the swarms. And a moving Target is Always worse hitting than a not moving Target. And u need to aim ahead of the target, Just Like Heathers and Mandrake.

[@wadebrown8772]

Needs projectile speed buff like 50% and 30% lock-on