I was wrong about the xTool D1...

[@makeorbreakshop]

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[@forresto]

Full enclosure is recommended for both dealing with the fumes and eye safety. They really shouldn't sell them without an enclosure. A fraction of a second of stray reflection can blind you, which makes the cost savings seem not worth it. 3:14

[@makeorbreakshop]

yep agreed

[@ChadsCustomCreations]

Thank you for taking the time to make a correction video I respect that.

[@retronexusio]

I bet X-Tools this time was like: "Can you like maybe not include the portion where we ask you, if you may not include the fireportion"

[@makeorbreakshop]

haha, they were super nice about it but the last thing I want people thinking is that running a 40w laser at 100% and low speed won't turn into flames really quick. If you use the machine like a normal person then everything is great.

[@grumpywoodchucker]

🤣🤣🤣🤣

[@retronexusio]

@@makeorbreakshop haha, yeah i am sure they were... it was just a too obvious of a joke not to make it.... :) but i am glad you brought it up!

[@Metal_Vistas]

I was just told xTool no longer sells parts or heads for their D1 lasers. If true, that would be a deal-breaker for me, and I will never purchase a machine from ANY company who discontinues parts and support after such a short time. I don't care how good the technology, it is not worth it if it becomes a paper weight after a year or two.

[@forzaauctionhousetips8640]

Admitting you're wrong? On KZbin? You can't do that! Seriously, keep up the great stuff 👏

[@makeorbreakshop]

I got two videos out of it so that's a plus ;)

[@TripodsGarage]

Might want to add that the regular D1 laser modules, are not swappable with the Pro. The pro laser modules have a higher pin count.

[@makeorbreakshop]

I was wrong again...again. Yeh I was really only thinking from someone buying a brand new machine should have mentioned the upgrade path as well.

[@TripodsGarage]

@@makeorbreakshop - No worries! The upgrades can get a little confusing 👍. Also the extender isn’t compatible, since this would require a new longer wire harness.

[@carrollstanley1191]

I was trying to make my mind up xtool has 2 different packages I have been looking at, 40 watt laser plus the 10 watt laser or the 20 watt laser and the infrared laser kit.. not sure how much metal engraving I might do. But I dont think I would be cutting any wood thicker than 1/2 inch for project.. any recomendations ?

[@michelejaeb2787]

Hey, great video. Just FYI xTool has confirmed that though they originally said the laser size of the 40w was .15x.15 it is actually .10x.15. If you shine the laser on the way at very low power you will see that it is actually a rectangle not a square.

[@makeorbreakshop]

Great point! When I talk about the laser point I tried to show the thickness in both the x and y. I had the power turned up pretty high so it was thicker than it really is but you can tell it longer in one direction vs the other.

[@Clough42]

I have the 10W machine, and they told me directly that it isn't possible to install the 40W module on the 10W machine.

[@miker1266]

I've had the xTool 40w for 6 months now and there is now a build up of crud on the module fan, with the lower wattage modules you can clean/replace the internal module fan but with the 40w, according to xTool themselves, the 40w is an enclosed unit so you cannot access the fan, clean or replace it. Since you have had the 40w for a while now what is your experience of build up on the fan, has anyone else experienced problems. XTool have not provided a solution but have offered to replace the module under warranty but that will only put off the issue for another few months.

[@jakerazmataz852]

If you have a 20w, is it worth it to get the 40w, or should you jump to a fiber or CO2 at that point?

[@tonywhitley6929]

Just bumping your channel with some extra comments to help out. It's fun watching your work.

[@jakerazmataz852]

You can reduce the power on the 20w to the 10w's. I don't know if the laser gets any finer. 🤷‍♂

[@makeorbreakshop]

You would still get roughly the same laser dot size since the optics in the laser won't change. Since the 40W is using 8 diodes then it has to bounce and reflect through more focusing elements vs the 20W (4 diodes) and 10W (diodes), that happens regardless of power.

[@TenMinusNine]

I ordered a 40 watt bundle over 7 days ago, and it still hasn't shipped. Their customer service is terrible.

[@justinlaser]

Great update. Quickly moving into easily burn-down-your-garage territory with these increasing diode powers. 🤣

[@makeorbreakshop]

yep, I have CO2's that are more powerful but the diodes feel a little crazier

[@AdrianFourie]

Hi, awome reviews.The one thing that all these high powered diode lasers reviews fall short is....can it engrave clear-, white-, blue-, yellow-acrylic?

[@cysign07]

So are you able to cut thicker wood when your feedrate is higher and you're cutting it several times, to avoid the fire?

[@realninjawatcher]

Can you please recommend a budget laser that can cut and engrave 1/8”-3/16” thick cork board? Really have had a hard time finding any videos other than the glow forge completing that task. Thanks

[@juliestevens1933]

Which laser spot would be the smallest - 5 watt or a CO2 (like Glowforge)?

[@havocproltd]

after spending more than a month to get them to replace ( with shipping costs )an air purifier that died after 16 days they asked me to go around to the different places I had made disparaging comments and delete them or change them. They did however send me two boxes of their 12 x 12 walnut boards. I played with two and then said i will NEVER burn another of these again! The absolute nastiest material I have ever put on my machine. I t was like I had never quit smoking!

[@werdayat8905]

Hello, I currently do custom leather patches on hats. I use real 3/4 oz leather, as of now I have them cut/engraved out of house. Would the 40 watt Xtool be a good one for me to use for my patches? Thanks and I enjoy watching your videos.

[@huntermlmfao2778]

ok sooo im struggling to figure out how to connect my d1 to lightburn and the lightburn youtube tutorial doesnt really help i am very much doing something wrong please help

[@Ricks2Cents]

Don’t you have to change hardware as well besides the Laser Head. Since the Laser Heads are All Different Power Ratings.

[@makeorbreakshop]

You do have to change out the x axis rail and the motherboard, but it can still power the 20W and newer 10W

[@Ricks2Cents]

@@makeorbreakshop I don’t have the X Tool. I have an Atezr P5 then was later sent the V35 Laser Head to Swap out just the same. I’m still waiting on the extension rail kit to show up before I swap it all out.

[@Ricks2Cents]

@@makeorbreakshop I seen a couple people test the power rating on the XTool 40 Watt each time it test will below 35 Watts. I think it was a race between XTool an Atezr who got their out first Quality may have suffered.

[@janblaauw6345]

Can you use the 40W laser module on your own CNC frame? Linear motion system

[@hermitking3718]

Can this cut acrilic . I like it because I can pack it and go , the omtek polar is heavy . So does it cut acrylic.

[@makeorbreakshop]

It can do acrylic as long as it’s not clear

[@Dan-nr3om]

What's the difference from the d1 pro and the d1

[@josephsmith601]

He straight up disrespected Xtool when he pull that Atomstack out 😂🤣

[@dijimeistro]

Requesting the test file, it's a link that is supplied but when clicking goes to your site and says expired, how to get the test file (I posted this request in your last video too) 😅

[@nogardniwt]

You planning to review the new Gweike?

[@makeorbreakshop]

I reviewed the RF a few videos back, is that the one you mean?

[@nogardniwt]

@@makeorbreakshop I did see that I noticed they had the "Pro" model and assumed they came out with a new version. I'll take a look at your video library. Considering some of the tabletop versions with cameras. Loosing too much time with placement 🤣

[@nicolaisvlog8701]

it's you that pop up all the time on Facebook 😄

[@upstatecre8]

I am sooooooo angry! I paid $2,000 and went to build my rig to find out what you said…you have to have a different lower powered set up and indeed the 40w I bought and the $2,000 I paid did not come with a fully functioning 40w machine. You have to have parts from an earlier purchased engraver to make this run. I wish I had known this. Who does business this way? So now I have to either spend another $1,100 to buy parts I will put aside and not use or refund and lose some of my hard earned money. Ugh!!!!!

[@katerynapetrova6164]

I'm gonna do same. Did you figure out your problem?

[@greg4367]

will the IR diodes cut clear acrylic?

[@makeorbreakshop]

I’m pretty sure it still needs to be opaque. But at 2W on power you wouldn’t be doing much cutting even if it could.

[@greg4367]

@@makeorbreakshop Thanks, I'm trying to find a way to cut clear acrylic without using a CO2 laser.. Love the channel.

[@wittworks]

Wait. I just sold my chop saw so I could cut 2x4s based off your last video. Crap.

[@dangerous8333]

Yeah these KZbin influencers got you all by the balls. Why would you sell a chop saw that can cut two-by-fours in seconds for this? 😂 I have a full woodworking and metal fabrication shop, I do 3D printing and I just picked up a 20 watt laser. Using one of these to slowly cut a 2x4 is absurd. The amount of time and energy required. I could build a tiny home in the time it would take for you to break down an 8-ft 2 x 4 into 2-ft pieces.

[@makeorbreakshop]

@dangerous8333 Ha the 2x4 test was pretty obsurd, hopefully there were enough example of real things you can do with it that are nearly impossible to do with any other tool. (Complex shapes in 1/4 in material)

[@makeorbreakshop]

You should never listen to KZbinrs ;)

[@hacksawjimthuggin7411]

​@Dan Gerous oh God, you thought he was serious? That's hilarious 😂

[@Kopsu87]

Really nice video yet again. Cant wait to see that review of the 30w atomstack.

[@makeorbreakshop]

Coming soon!

[@hermitking3718]

Same am waiting on it since am thinking of getting that or the , omteck enclosed laser .

[@grumpywoodchucker]

Good stuff. You have just about convinced me that I have what I need in my 20 watt D1 pro. (Until I go large CO2 unit) #thunderlaser

[@makeorbreakshop]

20W is great too! Going into the CO2 world you get a lot more on the safety side of things that are a huge plus other than just the increased power. Plus the thunder machines are absolute beasts!

[@dangerous8333]

Agree. The 20 watt is plenty capable whereas the 40 is basically unnecessary. For me I'll be going from a 20-watt to a CO2 or something else that hasn't been invented yet.

[@jppalm3944]

That fire video probably prevented a very expensive law suit. They should thany you. And they should include a WARNING IN THEIR INSTRUCTIONS

[@theoracle6142]

I pay KZbin so I don’t get commercials😢

[@dangerous8333]

Totally overpriced and barely does anything more than a 20-watt. 👎 Edit: What a rip-off that you have to buy the 10-watt still.

[@makeorbreakshop]

The power still is double and I'm finding especially on the cutting side you can have some serious time savings. I'm hoping they give you the option to buy the 40w with a frame so you don't get the extra cost of the 10w down the road though.

[@dangerous8333]

@@makeorbreakshop I'm sure it's faster on thicker wood, but on the thickness of wood commonly used for projects on these diode lasers it might be hardly noticeable. I'm just seeing big diminishing returns here. 20 watt is capable of 99% of what this machine is capable of. Beyond that I'm using my table saws, chop saws, and jigsaws. All faster than a 40-watt diode laser when cutting thick wood. I agree with another comment that said he's going from a 20-watt to a CO2. That's the practical jump, not 10 or 20 to 40. If I was buying my first laser I would buy a 10 or 20w and use a jigsaw if I need to cut thick wood.

[@IamSpectre2020]

You think you were wrong about it? I bought something else because of your "i think I was wrong about it" thanks. That's why You Tubers should NOT be giving advice on what they don't know just to make a few more YT dollars Damn.

[@makeorbreakshop]

Not sure if you watched the video but the things I was wrong about actually wound up being positives. You can use the 10W/20W/Infared module with the new setup (I didn't think you could before), They now have a bundle vs having to buy it individually and it wind up costing more money. And I showed what the laser dot size difference is.

[@Lynnn-jn2ln]

Hi Make or Break shop, this is Lyn from ComMarker, we reached collaboration a few months ago and you said that the video review is in progress but didn't answer our email anymore, could we know what happened?