I watched 50 Miyabi guides so you don't have to: Ultimate advance guide for Miyabi/ Team tier list

[@Soundwave1900]

50 guides sounds like an accurate number. Even those completely unqualified to make guides made one.

[@HangGrenade01]

Shit, then I should make one too

[@isshki]

TikTok and YTshorts guides lol

[@supervegeta881]

Thanks for pointing out that if you swap too soon you miss out on the anomaly, I didn't notice that before.

[@apapodnac]

yup, realized i was also doing this and missing disorder/frostburn procs

[@blursedpasta7718]

you can put the anomaly on hold to avoid overcapping the charges (ex. buff miyabi with supports buff then charge 3 so you can get 2 charge back plus ex 2 times to charge 3 again(feels good to pulls this off all the time))

[@ragnaxbloodedge]

Prostectic arm? Isn't that an Arm Guard, commonly worn by samurai. It uses to deflect attacks.

[@QQxoxoQQ]

Nah, she got the same treatment as Nero with his father.

[@supervegeta881]

Yes it's an arm guard, you can see her without it on in the mindscape 6 art.

[@jounin818]

Yeah it's just an arm guard. Her M6 Namecard shows her arm without the armor.

[@KaminariHouse]

That's why the text said "*not really"

[@axelbuddy6972]

It was a joke, and a text box pops up saying not really 😅

[@lordridel2359]

If you have m2 go for mono ice You doesn't need disorder in fact yanagi on field time would reduce overall damage Lycaon soukaku only need 3-4 second and you got full buff for 30 second

[@lyon7218]

But if I don’t have lycaon and don’t have kaku built can I still just use piper and Lucy

[@lordridel2359]

@lyon7218 you should build soukaku lucy only give 600 attack Soukaku 1000 attack, 20% ice damage bonus and 10% ice ressist shred But lucy give all party buff so if you use her with piper or yanagi lucy better cause they got attack buff too But im this case its m2 hypercarry miyabi she already good on her own without any party intervention on field time so hypercarry is good for m2 so she can focus dealt damage on her own with min support time on field Lycaon give 25% ice shred is no joke Its perform better than yanagi even she can generate more orb for miyabi

[@lordridel2359]

@lyon7218 if your miyabi m0 disorder is a must Piper yanagi etc is recommend You can use soukaku on third slot she still perform better than lucy even on 2 dps team

[@Zafoshin]

So if you don't have Lycaon and you have m2 miyabi, which is hey best team?

[@ninjohnx3628]

Good question i'd say Miyabe, Grace and Rina is one of the more underrated teams....

[@yeetskeet4657]

I used this team in hollow zero the other day and it was fun as hell

[@john_yay9568]

The lighter lucy team works WONDERS, it's absolutely amazing

[@ThorsShadow]

I mean yeah, it's a fire element variant of a Lycoan+Soukaku team (Stunner + Support), which has been Ellen's best team for the longest time. So why shouldn't it work?

[@john_yay9568]

@ThorsShadow soukaku's buff is a tiny bit trickier to pull off than lucy's, and also the fact that soukaku's chain attack is somewhat a bit slow. and lighter can buff everyones damage a lot better i would say (if you have his signature that is), Over all both teams are amazing, i've used both in the new HZ Lost Void and both teams seem to clear with no problems, though i do notice that clear times with the lycaon soukaku team is a bit slower than lighter lucy. That's pretty much all, both teams are still really strong anyway, both wouldn't be in the video if they weren't, just choose from the two teams you have invested more into.

[@Sukakii]

Miyabi so strong she’s don’t need a team 😂

[@RareTruffle]

Caesar's still considered BiS even with the attack buff falling off during swap cancels?

[@gormleypeach5809]

Technically no, but her sheilds makes her very comfy, so it makes her preferable for most people who don't like quick swapping. If you're swap canceling Miyabi's long basic att then you aren't getting boosted

[@tanjovified]

I'm actually really new, I started at launch and just got back into it, I'm using Miyabi, Anby and Rina with Miyabis signature and it's been doing really well. Should I maybe consider swapping to piper Lucy? Only a rank I'm missing is seth

[@Zafoshin]

Wait, you said the miyabi piper Lucy team is better than the yanagi premium team?? Is this referring to miyabi yanagi Caesar? Then why is Caesar bis in chart?

[@revo5124]

Whats better team split? Jane Burnice Lucy. Miyabi Seth Yanagi or or Jane Seth Burnice. Lucy Miyabi Yanagi?

[@seno4134]

i have an m6 soukaku and my lucy is still m2, do i switch to lucy?

[@YuiYuiseVi]

odd opinion from me and i might be wrong but from my own testing 80% crit rate compared to 60% crit rate is only roughly 1 second to 70milliseconds difference in getting frost burn so personally i sacrificed the 80% crit rate and swapped my crit rate slot 4 to ATK for more damage. BUT im very very sure that the 1 second difference is very important for higher level play and its practically the most OPTIMAL build (especially if you need to balance crit ratio) so basically casual players wont need to worry too much on the 80% crit rate cause as long as you have 60% above its only a few millisecond difference. (this is from my own testing in the training zone with a level 70 Dullahan so just take my opinion as reminder that having 60% isnt the end of the world. but do correct me if im wrong im open to any other opinion)

[@farisanwari777]

I think that's because the Branch set gives 12% crit rate when applying freeze or shatter, which brings the 60% to 72%, and the 80% to 92%, whereas the anom buildup rate buff caps off at 80%. Cmiiw tho

[@YuiYuiseVi]

@@farisanwari777 now that you mention it, possibly. but in the test i reset everytime and only used basic attack to reach the frostburn so the 12% wasnt counted in since it only procs after the frostburn. but then in general fights the 12% can actually help reach the 80% crit rate without needing to waste damage stats just to get to 80%.

[@Jinrai_]

Don't be mistaken to stop crit rate at 80% just because you don't get the extra bonus anomaly build up. There is no hard cap or diminishing return. More crit rate will still usually be better than less if you built crit dmg high enough. Even if you're at 75% crit rate already, using a crit rate disk usually should still be better than atk%, (as long as you don't overcap with team buffs and resonium. Also take mindscapes into account if you have any.

[@YuiYuiseVi]

@@Jinrai_ true true, tho i think rather than prioritising 80% crit rate over everything else is abit misinterpreted. i think its better to balance out the crit ratio *while* trying to reach to 80%. reaching 80% is indeed beneficial but if the crit dmg is abysmal then its not as beneficial imo

[@farisanwari777]

@@Jinrai_ how much crit dmg is high enough? I currently have her at 130

[@hieuvuong8409]

in my case, is soukaku M6 better than rina M0, lucy M0?

[@Vintagefeen]

Is ice damage bad on her??

[@Daiskul]

What do you think about Miyabi, Piper, Shoukaku

[@syarilezzuddeen]

You can try it out on Lost Void. All characters are set to 60 so you can try it out there. I did and it's okay. Piper can trigger disorder for Miyabi but she gets hurt quiet a bit. Soukaku also has more field time than other supports. Try it out see if you like it. I'm building them until I get Lycaon at 300 pulls.

[@04cassius-jake]

Lucy is better in this team

[@syarilezzuddeen]

@04cassius-jake In my situation, Lucy is already busy with Lighter and S11. I'm sure OP has his reasons for also looking at Miyabi, Piper, Soukaku.

[@Daiskul]

@@syarilezzuddeen not really, quite new to zzz, and just figuring out, also, shoukaku c5 with signature weapon s4/5, while lucy isnt, thats why i ask thx

[@soundplayground3742]

Miyabi is so good you don't need a guide! Play her solo or with any team and she simply destroys everything anyway... LOL 😁!

[@nol2539]

Well I lose 50|50 to both her and her weapon :) what a life

[@dalhaval283]

so many people saying to get m1 reyna, but i reallyyyyyyyy want koleda to complete the standard collection

[@ChristianPerez-ku9dz]

It’s your account do what makes you happy.

[@supervegeta881]

Koleda is awesome, go for it!

[@KaminariHouse]

If you don't care about meta, damage or clearing content quickly then do what you want.

[@xcurbsnipex]

You could always save the 300 selector until you get one of the two you want, so you can immediately claim the other

[@dalhaval283]

@@xcurbsnipex makes sense

[@dimirsleeper]

I don't think I've heard that kind of accent before. Very sing-song with the odd syllabic stresses and intonations. Really curling those heavy r's too, with a hint of lisp. Ended up just trying to figure out if its like Asian or Eastern European or something.

[@debilita9999]

Why is no content creator testing triple anomaly with yanagi and burnice. Its strong and much more fun team than soukaku

[@Desire_Kun]

7:41 shouldn’t we let miyabi do the disorder since yanagi has high AP which results in more disorder damage? Why should yanagi proc disorder from frost attribute please let me know thanks !

[@carldaniel4357]

This is what I do as well. Miyabi does the frost, then switch to yanagi then spam HOLD EX until no energy, then ult. It procs disorder for like 4 times until Shock overwrites the Frost. Then repeat everything.

[@gormleypeach5809]

Well ya, if they made her like Harumasa the more casual players wouldn't be able to use her lol but even with her being simple alot of people STILL dont know how to utilize teams around her right!

[@ThorsShadow]

Are you serious? There are people who don't know how to build her teams? She has probably some of the simplest team builds ever, just because she has so many possible team builds. It's basically "any support" plus "any stunner" or "any shielder" or "any other Anomaly unit". If you have Yanagi, it's "Yanagi plus whoever else, could be level 1 Corin, it's fine" and same if you have Soukaku (which anyone realistically does). How can you screw that up?

[@kingcapricornio1193]

🐥🫴🍫🐯

[@27777BigRedBarn]

How can anyone play Miyabi wrong? Hoyo made the poster child for ZZZ as brain dead as possible. She's literally meant for all the mobile players to play on auto. And the even more funny thing is that people pulled for her mind scapes....

[@ThorsShadow]

As a M2W1 Miyabi enjoyer, I refuse to believe anyone could screw even a M0W0 Miyabi up. She is so simple. Then again, a lot of people in Hoyo's communities are really dumb.

[@nkoonkukoo]

@@ThorsShadow M2W1 Miyabi is a game changer, just need to get the discs so she meets her full potential.

[@KaminariHouse]

Not exactly brain dead, as she has some nuance (like a parry for example). Jane is arguably brain dead, cuz left click spam + dodge to win (and Passion state for big boy damage). Miyabi's Mindscapes make her basically broken on M2 and especially M6, so if you want to delete enemies as fast as possible then you should.

[@tdof7217]

I wasn't going to watch 50 guides though

[@nkoonkukoo]

I feel like this is a guide for M0 Miyabi, my M2 Miyabi is always on the field until I need to stun (Koleda) or an attack boost (Lucy)

[@zeply_kaiteki]

yeah. obviously...

[@Qopa]

Pen sucks actually. Atk%/atk%/atk on the right side has the most damage potential mathematically 😂

[@Jinrai_]

Ice dmg% has higher dmg simply because of how the dmg multiplication and resistance works. Pen is good depending on the team, but usually about 95% as good as atk%, so not a huge difference. Atk% in slot 4 sucks if you crit stats are not built. Miyabi get so much free crit dmg and you waste it all it you don't build a lot of crit rate.

[@MarkFin9423]

The issue with these guides is that it's always coming from the perspective that you have specific characters on your account already and can magically get perfect disk roles on every single last slot. Without ceaser Miyabi is basically a paperweight without her engine and you will need to grind disks up to a year to get perfect crit rate substats to get her in a semi-functional state. Without Miyabi's W-engine a F2P player is better off saving their pulls for characters that they can utilize at their full potential rather than investing in something that will not come online until the character becomes irrelevant. That's not to mention the fact that Miyabi not only needs her W-engine but Yanagi to be utilized to the fullest potential without her cinema 2.

[@apotatowithnorights]

Thats like saying "Cesar King is so p2w! You need her weapon to use her! Thats not fair!" When that isnt true at all... Miyabi is the most broken dps since release, she works just fine with a f2p setup. Hyv wants you to think you need everything to make her work, so dont fall for those cheap tactics to make you spend money. Remember zzz's endgame can still be cleared with only 4 stars. ❤

[@iFEARtheShark]

Nope, I farmed a half ass set it doesn’t take long to get good rolls and I’m tired of this community BITCHING about having to build your damn characters. It doesn’t take a year it takes a month at best. Right before i got miyabi I made the dumb decision of trying to build piper so all my supplies were drained, even then I still managed to build her relatively fast, I do have her weapon now but I didn’t at first, so I used nekomatas sig which outperformed my Ellen twicefold. Even WITHOUT the weapon Miyabi has a ceiling so high that building attack and rolling crit doesn’t even make her dps worse. Her limited potential outperforms damn near every dps so far with their sig, if you skip her you’re bricking your account simple as that

[@MarkFin9423]

@@apotatowithnorights the issue with the "X character works fine by itself" crowd is they fail to account for the possibility of a difficulty spike. One very specific boss 1.4 could forshadow how a difficulty spike could be implemented since honkai star rail did something similar. Not enough damage? oops lose time, OOPS! lose out on that S or A rank. Obviously this is in an extreme case.

[@toastee5421]

Why are you talking like that lol? No offense lol.

[@KyzaelEomei]

I know it's probably less than ideal. I don't have Yanagi but I love doing Faction teams. So I'm going to do a team involving Miyabi, Soukaku, and Harumasa. Slowly trying to build him rn

[@ThorsShadow]

Look at "IWinToLose Gaming". He has a guide on Miyabi and his favourite team for her includes Harumasa.