I won the Loudness wars using this Limiter! (When it was needed!)

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[@DomSigalas]

Ok, several people started comparing this with Dan's video - a video that I was totally unaware of (so thanks for sharing this- I love Dan's videos!). However, I would suggest you watch the video before jumping into conclusions. Even from the first minute you will realize this has NOTHING to do with Dan's video. It's about me sharing my experience of working in the music business for over 20 years- and how I navigated the loudness wars when you *DID* need to make things insanely loud. This was *before* KZbin and *before* even LUFS were a thing. We were talking RMS levels back then. And you needed to be loud if you wanted to make a living as a mastering/mixing engineer and producer. So please, before commenting without watching the video at all, watch first and you will realize this is not a relevant video to Dan's. But the title is still relevant. Lots of love, Dom

[@reziahamed6654]

We do LOVE YOU & Dan both the same way Dom... Dom or Dan... Just the best in business... So....Screw the obnoxious freaking comments from the poor newbies....🤓👍👍🥇

[@jason.martin]

Who is Dan? but my real quesiton is how did you cycle through the colours on your shirt? :)

[@johnnycochicken]

@@jason.martin Dan Worrall. And I have the same question about the shirt!

[@kelvinfunkner]

I've been in the audio industry for over 20yrs, albeit in a remote area of Canada, but still... I've never known about this plugin!!! And none of my Nashville, Vancouver, L.A. or Vegas friends ever mentioned it either...Thanks so much for pulling back the curtain on these specialized secrets and giving a leg up to the rest of us!

[@DomSigalas]

I’m not surprised! Back then when I was stun under NDA’s, I realized many people knew about it but would avoid telling others.

[@LeChapeauMusic]

Love how your t-shirt changed colours haha! Invisible Limiter is quite good!

[@boycegantz5246]

Love the color shift on the Tee along with all your audio tips! You're an inspiration to me and I would think the rest of the Cubase community. Thank you!

[@George.SoundVelocity]

Bro im tripping with your T-shirt! 😂😂 Thanks for sharing this btw

[@Phat-Monkey]

The original AOM Invisible limiter was a close kept secret for a long time, I remember also seeing it in an Armin Van Buren session in one of this production courses a couple of years back...

[@DomSigalas]

Very well kept secret. Everybody back then was suggesting Elephant and some other limiters. I honestly believe that people were trying to mislead people because the loudness wars were so aggressive. Also, Invisible required a bit of research in order to get the most out of it so some people would not get past the ugly GUI :)

[@joaquinnunez33]

Excellent demo and very good soundtrack!!👍👍👍

[@Schaddn]

As someone else wrote, I'm sad to report that Dan Worral still holds the crown. Still, I'm excited for the video, as I'm sure I can learn something here (this comment was written before the video premiered)

[@DomSigalas]

The video is not about LUFS at all ;) I share my real-world experience when LUFS were not even a thing and people wanted masters as loud as possible. In my opinion going for extreme loudness this days is a moot point. Just wait for the video to be out ;)

[@Schaddn]

​@@DomSigalas Invisible Limiter is amazing, it retained quite a lot of dynamics and still squashes everything nicely with a healthy crunch. Since I'm on the younger side, this insight into how things were back then was really interesting. I'm glad to have you as my Cubase teacher these days :)

[@user-ki9hq5yf5s]

sooo... is that what the cool kids do these days, comment on a video before watching it?

[@DigitalDemonForge]

I second that.this Limiter is very very good .most modern limiters distort everything where A.O.m INVISIBLE Limiter still sounds transparent and clear !Must have for any Metal maniac !

[@DazzleRebel]

I'm more interested in your colour changing t-shirt Dom!

[@GloveBunniesVideos]

I'm still a fan of the Brainworx bx_XL V2 Limiter. It's so old and so basic, but really easy to get great sounding results. It's nice that you can control the M/S image at the same time. Great video!

[@nicolasfromk-town9333]

Brainworx masterdesk thrue peak is good to.

[@rogercabo5545]

Thanks, Dom! These plugins are fantastic tools. Creating a melody, crafting lyrics, and producing great music with 100% amazing instrument support is the most challenging part for song and music producers. If a track gets over 50 million clicks, then you're in the game. 😊 Currently about 150.000 new music tracks are released on YT alone per month.. A lot stuff needs to be mixed and mastered. 👍

[@SinDecade]

Your t-shirt changing color the first time, had me tripping 😂 Awesome video and awesome stories!

[@SweetSoundStudio]

The mastering chain in the "loudness wars" days 😀, the crazy ways to obtain updated information 10-15 years ago, so so true in hurts :) As a sound designer for 2 decades, this video really made me smile and remember the victorious feeling and satisfaction once I found my ultimate output plugin/s that really "did the job" and enabled the desired RMS on a song or soundtrack without squashing the mix. I had a very similar experience with my growing clients community once I won the loudness wars, so maybe it is true to say that you should never compromise on your mastering and always aspire to improve your sound methods. 🎸 Cheers Dom!

[@Joelfrancis]

This guy got a great spirit

[@In-SoulProMusic]

1:30 your shirt changed from green to blue , wow!

[@rafyahu]

During the same period when everyone turned to the L2, I easily got much better results with the Steinberg stock Maximizer.

[@PierluigiCarrozzi]

Cubase Stock Maximizer is a very good and underrated plug-in, indeed

[@flyoverfredusa]

Love you Dom, screw the haters bro !

[@StatelineMusic]

You are telling my story as well. Just because of the history I share with A.O.M. Invisible Limiter G2, it will stay my favorite limiter forever! Thank you for sharing.

[@AlucardXIX]

Loudness is still so important especially in modern metal. If you want aggressive, you need to go loud almost always. Invisible Limiter is a great plugin, I'm glad we have a lot of great options today as well, I even used it on a master this week!

[@DomSigalas]

100% agree. Loudness is inherent to the sound of certain genres. Try and master -14LUFS for metal and enjoy the recipe for failure 😂

[@AlucardXIX]

@@DomSigalas yes! There's people pushing -4 LUFS today in metal. Maybe a bit too loud still but yes every genre sounds best at different loudness levels, that's part of why I always hated the "-14LUFS is the standard" talk

[@Harrysound]

Lol love the T-shirt . Love the video innovations you do

[@DeltaWhiskeyBravo13579]

Excellent info and demo, thanks. The Invisible Limiter sounds very clean despite the clip mode and super high input levels. I don't have it yet, as I've never heard of it. For now, what I'm doing is clipping followed by a brick wall limiter, with the LVC Clipped-MAX into the Venomode Maximal 3. I like to ride the fence on having some dynamics and somewhat loud. Nice color changing shirt too.

[@marcokorda8725]

I agree. Best Limiter on the market

[@ophrys9123]

Why do you give me this secret? yo want me to steal your client ? 😆

[@DomSigalas]

Hahahaha - I kid you not I was under NDA for a loooong time and I couldn’t talk about any of these things 😂

[@Griuofficial]

Thanks for the video, it is an amazing plugin, I’m using it since 2013🔥

[@ierapetra23]

Thank you Dom. That was once again a great video..

[@jacksonmennen]

BRO THAT FBI CUT JUST GAVE ME A HEART ATTACK, MONITORS FELT TOO REAL FR

[@DomSigalas]

So sorry man!!!

[@guidokamper8005]

My heart still at 180bpm! damn, don't listen to that video with headphones!!

[@GrumpyGr3g]

the changing colors tshirt got me tripping haha The Loudest master I ever heard is coming from Donny & Katharsys - Panic EP. it has some insane values, it hits at some point the -0.9LUFS mark :o The whole process is not only the last limiting stage but the entire process that make the production super loud. But damn, so impressive technically.

[@ephjaymusic]

Dan Worral won it fair and square from a purely technical position, although his track was pretty banging too 😉

[@DomSigalas]

What is everyone talking about? Can you point me to Dan’s video? I love his content!

[@chrisibbetson]

kzbin.info/www/bejne/qZCkf3iHqpp_qtE @@DomSigalas

[@R3myBoyMixMastering]

@@DomSigalas kzbin.info/www/bejne/qZCkf3iHqpp_qtE

[@ephjaymusic]

​@@DomSigalasnot sure if you could see the link?

[@DomSigalas]

Name of the video would be cool! I’m interested :)

[@Kgb206-78]

It’s really funny, I’ve used this plug-in many times and long before I had any idea what i was doing. I was able to get some really quiet recordings/ samples up to some usable levels that I couldn’t get on any other plugin. It’s cool to see that I wasn’t crazy in tinkering around with this thing:)

[@Targetdrew]

Welcome to M1! Love it.

[@CarlosMoreno-jp4rw]

bro i have headphones on and the fbi open up part scared me so bad lol. i turned around and everything

[@mirkomarkovic3438]

Aah yes, the L2! Everyone was using it. I didn't master but for roughs i was using the oxford inflator. Fun times 😅. Nowadays i'm on a combo of Limitless and L2. Have to try the invisible limiter as well

[@compingharry]

A.O.M Limiter makes me think of the "Don't look back" album from Boston...I just love the saturated sound they killed in the follow up million selling album "Third Stage"...

[@redbadroomproducer]

Thanks Dom! I don't know how much you earn from your channel, however I notice that your passion for music production comes out in each video of yours (maybe I should use a translator... sorry for my english...)

[@Somedei]

by the way I remember those old days , studios, producers, mixers engineers, etc.. almost everybody kept their secrets to their own and even misleading people, maybe one dude shared its thing and everybody was doing it, that info was money-making, those were the days of the selfish, I remember going to studios and some engineer waited til we get outside for a coffee to do its thing on the desk.. terrible days. You have many bad things today but lucky for us theres a better community than it was before. Thanks Dom for being part of that. 🥰

[@TelePaludi]

What the f**k is going on with your shirt, it change colour?!? I want it!!😂😂😂

[@NickTheMuteChalntoupis]

tshirt changing collors ? BOOM!

[@paulaner3021]

Amazing hue cycle in your TShirt!!

[@kasatka4797]

Totaly agree.. good point of view sharing is caring! Thanks for the advice i´ll try it out 🙏🏼

[@dominicisidore]

Your shirt keeps changing colors and is freaking me out! Lol awesome video tho and thanks for the great plug-in awareness! Much respect for you!

[@J-DUB-F1]

I'd forgotten about this one???..........I had an early version on an old computer. I need to look into it again........thanks for the reminder, it's really impressive! 😉👍

[@TerryFlatEarth]

Yea, in the forums nobody would talk about this plugin; but now since it doesn't matter anymore because of streaming qualifications, I'm going to let you in on the secret. Thanks, Dom.

[@newshoesbigblister]

Thank you for sharing your love for the Invisible Limiter! I know it will be a good one to have in the arsenal when needed, so that's just been added to my list! That was a fantastic demo of it Dom. And btw - I didn't get the tshirt, but I did get the matching mug because sometimes, it's got to be analogue! 😃👍

[@ziebanez]

I love the Smart:Limit from Sonible

[@DomSigalas]

It’s pretty amazing indeed!

[@felixschlegel7048]

The fact that he's showing it on a raw mix is crazy... sounds dope!

[@DomSigalas]

Exactly-which is never something you should do in real life!

[@D.Angelopoulos]

...no resistance..no question...just be all right..!!!

[@Zenvo-uu9tm]

I like that you're gain staging right your shirt . Nice shirt btw

[@DileepaMangala]

I like what happens to your t-shirt colour 😂

[@MattGale1974]

Thanks Dom, my new best tool

[@chillymilly6063]

Awesome… the color of your tshirt changes the whole time

[@Arlicht]

Im using Acustica ASH in combination with Ozone 9 Maximizer as final limiter but I am going to try this Invisible Limiter G3. A lot of top mastering engineers like Streaky, Luca Pretolesi and David Gnozzi are recommending use final brick wall limiter with good amount of oversampling but without true peak function enabled - as true peak algorithms somehow smear transients in unpleasant way... Thanks for another great video Dom!

[@DomSigalas]

I agree- always use your ears! If true peak doesn’t sound good just make sure you don’t have oversample peaks :)

[@kelainefes]

What if the intersample peaks sound good? 😝@@DomSigalas

[@DJURBANBG]

Thank you very much !

[@georgezorbas9036]

So nice advices but how beautiful songs also you are working on / worked...!

[@hosseinsaraiee]

thank you Dom

[@jjones7837]

When you push it...ahhhhhh...I get it. Mush have. Thx.

[@samsam2235]

You ended the loudness war, but you casually (re)started the "Mac vs. PC" war. 😂 Dope video as always.

[@DomSigalas]

Hahaha! If I make a video about this it will start a war that’s why I try not to do it. But seriously, after several tests I was shooting myself in the foot not using the MacBook. It’s extremely powerful 😆

[@ephjaymusic]

Love your smiler pfp. 😎👊🏻

[@stephanfleck]

Thx for sharing Dom

[@seyilaw1]

Thanks you so much

[@rogercabo5545]

Dom, would love to have a comparison between Mac and PC.. doesn't have to be complex.. add any project then import the same into the same project again.. and so on and on.. I think that's realistic and produce honest results.. would be awesome..

[@DJTwenty2020]

Love this video, it would be nice to maybe a 20 min or so demo video on how to use all the features of the limiter on a live mix?!! great work! :)

[@sha3439]

Rhank u so much for the review, to me it makes mixes boomy and subby some kind of fake loudness. Switches the transient loss with sweet low end

[@BurningBushPedagogy]

Thank you very much, I have also used the Stealth Limiter from IK Multimedia very loud and extremely clean, although it didnt exist at the period of AOM Invisible limiter. there is also FG X froma slate extremely trasnparent is loud and clean, I came to look if there is something ne and better than the old ones.

[@laurentschark]

I just saw your t-shirt changing colours at 3:02 😂

[@nikobellic7462]

i like the colour changing t shirt effect

[@dernuniverse9813]

Thank you for the info. I use KClip3 is powerful also ASH from Acustica

[@mamojula]

Great video, thanx for sharing your expertise (again)!

[@Sherif.Mohsen]

Thank you 🦇👌❤️

[@jayarecordsofficial]

T shirt means everything !!!

[@EfNerva]

The real secret sauce is in that t-shirt of yours

[@nicolasfromk-town9333]

I like to do it with System 6000/MD4. The sound keep clean and the deep bass is still present. When i use A.O.M, to knok off 1dB. You hear the bass change.

[@pablolparedes]

Thank You!

[@dasdeck]

I too liked invisible limiter from the get go. It has a really clipperish vibe.

[@Mitsch76]

Yeah , you are so right. I say thank you, too! All of you KZbinrs and problem solvers ;-) THX!

[@diegoalejo15]

nice story, thanks Dom, so would you suggest using invisible limiter before another true peak limiter as Pro L2?

[@DomSigalas]

Yes, do the major work when it comes to limiting with IL and then top it off with true peak limiting and squeeze 1-2 db more with ProL2 it’s a very good combo!

[@girkgirkus7236]

You're the best! Btw back in the day I was working as a high-end audio developer and we were devel plug-ins for the digital 8 bus and I got one of the early versions of auto-tune, it was trippy and kind of crappy. Lol 98-99.

[@DomSigalas]

Yes it was this ugly green colour wasn’t it? And the mic modeller plug-in! Aaaahhhh!

[@ArieOrr44]

I don't know if you noticed but your shirt is changing color all the time ,thats cool ,but the strage thing is the meter gauge on your shirt is changing too and that is really amazing😃 about limiter it helps me on making the low things that were recorded too low to get to a point that balance will be easier

[@zero-project]

I am grateful for the information you give us so generously. I have used many exciting things you taught us in my songs. You should be credited in every song I make. But I don’t do that because I am always learning and making many mistakes. I don’t want anyone to blame you for my mistakes and say “Ouch, that part sounds really bad, did Dom suggest that?” ☺

[@DomSigalas]

You’re so kind my friend! I wish you the best- and what you do is research and we should always do this. This is also a part of our art and it makes you who you are. Trust me, most people don’t have the patience to watch educational videos they just want things to happen magically! What you do is recipe for success ❤️

[@JulaVision]

Your shirt was changing colors and I thought I was tripping 😂

[@raiyajinbeats]

3 minutes 05 . I love the purple:)❤

[@XCEEDXCEED]

13:37 hahahaha so accurate

[@LichtKrieger8]

14:20 - which Limiter would you use for Solo-Piano ? Can´t find many Tutorials about Mastering Solo-Pianos (VST) ! Thx, Dom, for your great character and your really great Vids !!! Ben

[@solo943]

8:17 from red to green '' its good to be analog '' 👍

[@BananasananaB]

It's odd I randomly had the same thought recently about music production in the late 1990s and early 2000s. Everyone kept their cards close to their vest. Not many wanted to share. And indeed there was a ton of misleading and diversionary thoughts perpetuated in online forums back then. Today producers and bedroom studio engineers really don't know how great it is today versus any other time in history for learning and sharing of ideas. We have sources such as Dom, willing to show so many tips and tricks that wouldn't have been shared before. You either had to have an in at a studio or learn through trial and error. Mostly trial and error. KZbin is really helpful but we still have to sort wheat from chaff. Lots of newbies pretend they're an expert. So please keep mind and stick with sources such as Dom that have actual production chops in real studios and do production/mixing/mastering work for a living.

[@RickyTehra]

Into the first min and I'm more curious about how is your tshirt change color 😂

[@glitchunicorn]

Invisible Limiter is amazing

[@vaclav397]

I noticed that your T-shirt changes colors 😳 but anyway, you are the best as always 👍👍👍 Thanks

[@jochenh.7428]

Bettermaker Mastering Limiter 2.0 is also worth looking at it because of the many extra features it has. Hardware clipper, overtone generator, Mid Boost (to soften mids) etc.

[@DomSigalas]

Yes I want to get this one for my analog mastering chain!

[@Targetdrew]

I’ll give this a whirl!! I am currently using KClip, Standard Clip or Inflator in clip mode on with Sonnox Limiter 3. I like how Invisible limiter clips! Will be fun to try!!

[@DJMPvdCLASSICS]

trippy tshirt

[@EvansAudio]

Thanks Sir

[@waltertill1388]

Thanks a lot!!!!!!

[@snubdawg1386]

how should i concentrate, when your t-shirt is fuckin with my mind....luv it

[@DomSigalas]

😂😂😂

[@snubdawg1386]

@@DomSigalas in the video you say, the cpu performance of your macbook pro with m1 eats your pc, what pc cpu do you have?

[@DomSigalas]

@@snubdawg1386 Intel i9 :) performance booster on a laptop - around 60% and I always work at 32-128 samples 😱

[@fausto_colella]

1) i know this pluign from the first beta age! 2) where i can buy your t-shirt? 😁

[@DomSigalas]

Hahaha nice! I have links down below but it’s not the colour changing version 😅😅😅

[@fausto_colella]

​@@DomSigalas oh i haven't noted the link... i think the green one is very reminishent of the old Joemeek style !

[@georgeogrady449]

2 way digital sound or sond effects

[@DavidWilliams-ub3mt]

Hey Dom! you said you're using now a macbook pro. Can you do a stress test on your mac just as you did with your pc. It would be highly helpful to choose with the right one. What's the configuration of your mac system?

[@Jura_JS]

Hi Dom. I remember you compared Intel and Ryzen processors. It was very helpful, I ended up with buying Ryzen pc. It would be so interesting to see similar test for Ryzen vs Mac M1 (M2)

[@yairchesler]

Seeing Dom's shirt color changes (for example at 1:30-1:34) and wondering when would a gorilla pass in the background 🤔

[@ajstudiobgd]

Good episode. Nice chroma key effect. 👌😀

[@joanfranch]

Have you tried G3 version? Know the main differences?

[@DomSigalas]

I haven’t yet!