I Worked For Mr Beast, He's A Sociopath - Something Seems Off.... Unpopular Opinion.

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[@independentunityreacts]

He seems like he was psychologically tortured ... this aint ur average leave leave situation

[@Abears_]

It’s the same thing as someone getting abused in a relationship. They can’t walk away so easily

[@aoi8653]

Reposting my comment on your original upload---- Several points for consideration: 1. I think you were too focused on the legality. The first video was about fraud/crime. This one is just about evil/immorality (like hiring a convicted pdf on a children's show). 2. Whether something is wrong/illegal should not be based on if there is something worse out there. Otherwise, so many crimes or sins could be hand-waved away by saying "I didn't Jeffery Dahmer you, so what are you whining about?" 3. Similarly, just because someone is able to pull themselves out of a bad situation does not mean everyone can, especially given different upbringings/trainings. That is why we reapect the people who accomplish that instead of going "So what? Everyone can do that." 4. I feel like people who say "he could walk out at anytime" overlook that he DID. At some point, the treatment was so bad that in his sleep-deprived state, he said "screw $200,000+" Please consider how bad the treatment is for a person in the financial position of a non-famous comedian to give up on that amount of money for 3 weeks of work. Especially during the pandemic when companies aren't in a hiring mood. 5. Not all restraints are physical and social/peer pressure is a real thing. For example, if they said "if you walk away, you will be blacklisted", or "the friends who recommended you for this video will be negatively impacted because of the wasted time/money", would that affect your opinion? And while that isn't illegal, is it evil/immoral? To be fair, I don't think the Mr. Beast team said that, but those are normal things to worry about when you walk off a project, no? The point to say is yes, he was free to walk out (and eventually did), but that obstacles were placed in the way. And again, that isn't illegal. But is it evil? 6. Like you, I think "don't take no for an answer" is very standard for any job that depends on high-pressure sales. But Dogpack wasn't using it as an example of illegality. Rather, he is using it to illustrate the corporate culture of making light of SA, as well as encouraging people to do things not in their best interests. 7. As long as you believe Jake's story (and maybe you don't), the main issue is "what kind of person thinks carrying out the Russian Sleep Experiment for real is a good idea?" 8. Dogpack was ragging on Mr. Beast for showing people's tears, but I think that's because it makes him look good and is often staged for the camera. So whether or not Dogpack is being a hypocrite depends on whether or not Jake's story is true.

[@Pondero36]

Agreed. Especially 4;5.

[@brittanyparistx]

What a well thought out and structured comment. Absolute gold. Well said.

[@abferris]

There's whole videos about peer pressure. I know Moist Critical Did a whole video about this sort of psychological effect. The documentary about it is on Hulu, called "The Contestant" where a guy is put on a Japanese gameshow basically just to live in the room for a year, and you could see him go insane... Literally. There's a lot more than just "you can leave at any time", even without the being blacklisted. Its not as easy as just saying no, especially seen from the outside perspective

[@subarashiikylox]

u acting like the dude was kidnapped by the cartel gang chill out they just didn't turn the lights off and i personally don't think it's that bad because i sleep with lights on myself

[@aoi8653]

@@subarashiikylox Edit: I refer you back to points 2 and 3. Just because there is something worse out there does not make this better. And just because you can tolerate it (I salute your resilience. Have you done it for 11 consecutive days with no access to sunlight or clocks, next to a smelly hot tub and noisy ice cream maker, btw?) doesn't mean everyone can. Should we ask a person with zero sense of pain what should be considered torture?

[@EnduringMelancholia]

I think it’s unfair to expect someone to make sane and rational choices while being arguably tortured and clearly mentally struggling.

[@vengeance8298]

I agree with this, when I'm mentally struggling, I can't think straight and sometimes make stupid decisions.

[@EnduringMelancholia]

@@vengeance8298 same, my friend. Same. Thanks for sharing. ❤️

[@zoeylace4778]

He was going through so much its insane to expect him to make choices like that when he needs the money and isn't even thinking straight.

[@Azreal0864]

This actually makes me discredit most of the claims against Mr beast as whiney young people with no sense of reality not realizing what they agreed to and not having the backbone to stand up for themselves in the face of "anxiety"

[@vengeance8298]

@@EnduringMelancholia If it means validating/defending others who also deal with stuff like this, I'll keep doing it 🙂

[@FlyMeUpSoHigh]

Look man, as I've said in your previous upload, I'm a grown ass adult with my own mind who makes my own decisions but I've been in situations where my mind makes me believe that not only can I not say no, I'm not allowed to. I hate that about myself, I'm working on it, but it does not change the fact that people have taken advantage of that. I know that I'm mentally vulnerable but factually knowing doesn't always reflect in the real world. It's just that as a creator who cares about mental health, I just think that you need to take a step back and realize that what you're focused on (the legality and technicalities) is not the point here and that people are surprised by your lack of empathy towards someone in a situation that is far too common for others. I'm glad you can walk away whenever you want or think a situation isn't good for you despite your own mental health, but that's not the reality for so many people, that's how vulnerable people are taken advantage of. Like I respect your skepticism, but it's just that your wording and verbiage is concerning as it's a rhetoric that has been weaponized too often against victims. And to make clear, here I'm referring to a whole range of victims and not just romantic/sexual relationships. An abuser can be a boss, a family member, a friend, and it does not make the abuse any less legitimate.

[@aalvarez2914]

The thing about the challenge is, they didn’t say they were going to torture him.. Wasn’t the premise it’d be this cool fun place with a hot tub, ice cream machine and stuff like that? He made it sound like he’d been sold on the challenge being something like he’d have to choose what things to give up until it was almost empty. Trying to sleep deprive him and mess with his hearing and smell and paint fumes and a grungy unfiltered lukewarm “hot tub” seemed like things they should have paid him extra for, not lose the challenge if he couldn’t do the impossible. Although I’m sure if he “had to” get rid of something he’d get that crap out of there as soon as they let him. The marathon was too much as an added requirement, on top of all that too. The bait and switch probably went into the thinking too. They changed it after the fact, messing with him because they could.

[@subarashiikylox]

all the things u mentioned aren't even that bad tbh trust me

[@Belfyre7429]

@@subarashiikyloxdo me a favour and search up the effects of what freshly painted rooms can do to a person without ventilation, and lmk what you find

[@aalvarez2914]

@@subarashiikylox it all depends on where you are at the time. Sometimes even little things can make a bad day worse. And you have to plan for things like that. You’re not always in a place to maneuver through someone’s attempt to break you down, someone who happened to control his whole environment too. They finally found his breaking point, and it was the marathon on top of everything else up to then. The challenge wasn’t supposed to be how much physical and mental torture he could withstand, though. It was surviving in solitary confinement with a bunch of fun items he’d have to progressively give up. It was still a bait and switch and he should have gotten paid the full amount unless the premise was seeing how much sensory, physical and psychological assault he could be pressured into “agreeing” to after being roped in, or “ruining the whole production”. Seems like they also pressured him after putting him under duress to manipulate him even more, acting like common decency such as giving the lights nighttime hours or not doing the extra challenges would make the whole production a big waste.

[@vengeance8298]

Cliff, sometimes when people are dealing with mental issues they cant think straight in the moment, and you gotta remember he did eventually get out.

[@frizzman1991]

I think this video is less about legality and more about painting a pattern of questionable business practices. Essentially making it clear that Mr. Beast doesn't play it safe on anyone else's behalf.

[@mafiakid2559]

You could see how that video that he did, messed with him mentally.

[@stevecastellanos]

They called him a year after he was fired. What this tells me is that everyone turned this down on the Mr.Beast team because they knew it would be hell! They know he needs money and they never liked him anyway. That makes it evil, premeditated, hence the cover up.

[@Fjigg]

😂😂😂😂😂

[@CollegeHustler]

100 days??? That’s so f’n long! And to surprise him with a MARATHON as a challenge after weeks of being in there!!! And then he breaks down and quits because he can’t walk and you only pay him 1/3 the money… that’s super f’d up!

[@subarashiikylox]

did u even watch the video ? they said he gotta only stay in for 30 days not 100

[@TheZoenGaming]

Cliff: "I'm not making a long video today." Me: _glances at the timeline_ Uh... I think you failed at that.

[@aliciadarga6993]

I feel like this guy was broken by a situation he put himself in. It's hard to get out of tunnel vision or be offered that amount of money and not try to force yourself to push through it. I feel bad for this guy.

[@figuredrawing4912]

Definitely. It comes down to basic empathy.

[@spyro257]

it's not about illegal vs legal, it's moral vs immoral, good vs evil, kind vs cruel, etc...

[@butterflyeffect6065]

It is like that if you are a consumer of entertainment. If you are a company,big or small,it's only about money. Every company in the world is using illegal,immoral,evil and cruel business practices. That doesn't excuse Mr Beast LLC but it's pretty pathetic and hypocritical to just condemn a company about something only when something else entirely different happens so we can now cancel them about that shit too. If all of these influencers/KZbinrs and generally internet people want to be this stand up good guys/girls they want to be they should start talking about other companies too more frequently and not just when something viral happens.

[@munge8607]

Dude was sleep deprived, in a room without windows (where the paint fumes he mentioned at the start were probably stuck in for a long time), mentally decaying, put under pressure form the staff to stay in and the only sense of time he had was when they brought in the encouragement to keep going (money). I highly doubt he was in the right place mentaly to make rational decisions under these circumstances. Legal or not, that is not the point. The point is that this is no way to treat a person. They baited him with money to torture him because (in my opinion) they knew he would play along if they payed him "well" enough. Its a moral question, not a legal one.

[@Azreal0864]

That's literally the entire point, it wasn't a hidden mystery. People are trying to see how people react to psychologically extreme situations, mr beast pays people giant sacks of money to do questionable and extreme things in front of a camera

[@stinkymuffin]

Cliff I totally agree with your take on this situation. If you are an employee being paid then your boss should be able to do whatever they want to you including emotional and physical abuse because you are an adult and can say no and walk away at any time. MrBeast is a genius for this idea and I don't know why the video didn't get released. You plan on naming the video 100 days in solitary confinement but you tell the employee don't worry its only going to be 30 days and you will pay him 300k EASY MONEY. Also its going to be like a luxury hotel and will only be a challenge for the last 5 days. Then after the employee agrees and shows up to work the actual accommodations are shit and you keep these giant flourescent lights on 24 hours a day in a bright white room that reflects all the light. By the second day its all money because with the lack of sleep the employee won't be able to make good decisions and you can easily manipulate them into doing all sorts of things no one in their right mind would do. The only thing that went wrong here was the marathon. Without the marathon they probably would have gotten close to the 30 days and Jake would have had much more permanent mental trauma from this. It would be a real video of a sane persons descent into madness with great time lapse shots. Or maybe workers should have some rights and employers shouldn't be able to blatantly lie to people about a job? Maybe a psych person should have been checking in every other day to make sure the person in the challenge is capable of consenting to the bullshit you are putting them through? Having the psych person come in on the 9th or 10th day of no sleep and AFTER he has a mental breakdown is wild.

[@axlmagnus]

I wonder how people saw your comment and stopped reading after the first line or even paragraph. Lol

[@erebus890]

Worst take I've ever heard.

[@tokertalk9648]

ROFL OP is most definitely a PDF file. They like to put their fellow predators on pedestals like you just did! Way to out yourself. Do you work for juetube!

[@Its_Bek]

Had me in the first half ngl

[@DuonDRaven]

Go watch The Contestant. This whole things a L take, you need to be educated.

[@LiquefiedVision]

This whole story on Mr. Beast is wild. Especially with him getting the high-profile PR dude. Something is obviously going on, and he's trying to fix it. We're just at the tip of this ice burg, and it's only downhill from here.

[@remi3936]

Damn. "Permission" under false pretenses, and the promise of 300,000 when the person offering _knows_ you're fucking broke, only to subject you to cruel conditions... Sorry, man. But, for some reason, that just doesn't seem excusable to me. That's exploitation. "He could have left", yeah and people can just up and leave their jobs. Not like theres a particular _reason_ people stay, even when they're treated like shit. Hmm...

[@figuredrawing4912]

@@remi3936 Yup.

[@subarashiikylox]

u acting like the dude was kidnapped by the cartel gang chill out they just didn't turn the lights off and i personally don't think it's that bad because i sleep with lights on myself

[@figuredrawing4912]

@@subarashiikylox Have you ever known someone who lingered in a BAD job...and or a BAD relationship...? If it was easy for them to just LEAVE........then they would just................................................leave. Peer pressure is real. Workplace pressure. Doing WILD things for money..... These are all common things. Jake was already in a bad place in his life, so the solitary confinement stuff affected him differently than it may affect you. (for example) A LOT of people in this world would do craaaaazzzzyyy things for $300,000, even at the expense of their mental and or physical well-being. Jake is not some SUPER RARE example. And unfortunately, the way Mr. Beast exploited him is also not rare. Rich people can compel people to do CRAZY things for money. Anyway. In the end, this is not about legalities, it's about whats wrong and what's right. Mr. Beast is simply immoral.

[@subarashiikylox]

@@figuredrawing4912 ur point is like blaming a casino for destroying someone's life mentally/physically , both are wrong there's no right in that situation and it's better to wait and hear mr beast side

[@dimleaf]

I think you should rethink your points. To make an analogy, it seems like you are ready to defend the concept of casinos because you haven't been addiced to gambling and you don't really like someone who lost all their money. Mr Beast is promising 300k, participation in a video with 100m+ views, future opportunities, nice look on your resume. You have the pressure of failing the operation, letting the whole crew down, having on your resume that you lost a huge investment of the biggest youtuber, you cost his company hundreds of thousands, and you lost his crew weeks of filming efforts. I'm glad that you are the kind of person to say "fu" and leave but this doesn't make this situation amazing, ethical, and certainly doesn't make Mr Beast a less evil sociopath. He could have turned off the lights, he could have reframed the challenge to "100 hours", "TWO WEEKS", "500 hours", those seem clickable enough. He could have included in the video that since his mental health is deteriorating so much Mr Beast would free him and give him the money anyway which would make for a heartwarming outcome. He is a horrible human being who doesn't feel much empathy, is terrible at regulating himself, and would do anything to use his reputation and power differential to exploit his crew and veiwers to get views and money at an unhealthy rate at any cost.

[@CliffBeatsOfficial]

Have you ever filled out a resume? That’s not how it works…

[@figuredrawing4912]

GREAT reply, just don't assume Cliff is going to take you seriously.

[@CliffBeatsOfficial]

@@figuredrawing4912 I take everyone seriously. I’m listening but someone just said this can go on your resume. WE create our own resumes, not a former employer. You don’t need to include failed KZbin videos on a job application. Man, you obviously have some type of issue with me. I wish you the best 🙏

[@figuredrawing4912]

@@CliffBeatsOfficial Bro. Why did you make this video? Is it not in part to elicit a response? I have nothing against you, I don't know you, I am responding to THIS particular video. The Comments section is here for a reason, and as I said, you should be happy about the engagement. Algorithm, etc.

[@CliffBeatsOfficial]

@@figuredrawing4912 I don’t care about algos and numbers. I’m here for truth. I made this video because my own subscribers wanted my opinion on this. I don’t know these people. I’ve never even watched a MR beast video. But I wanted to see what’s going on with what KZbin likes to push and if there is wrong doing put it in the public eye. I just said I don’t think what Jimmy did was right and I think the other gentleman made some bad decisions but still expected to get paid out for a completed contracted job. It’s just weird how everyone jumps in here and goes DV, SA, etc. that’s a disgrace to those victims. Yes he’s been through something traumatic but he also made money and left with blisters on his feet and extra mental health issues that seem somewhat self induced because HE decided to keep staying. That’s all I’m saying. No one had a gun to his head telling him he can leave or a room with no door or was being beaten. He was doing a job, didn’t complete it (understandably), and now is saying he expected the full payment for an incomplete job. It’s a weird situation

[@Bakemer94]

People are so quick to defend the rich.

[@stgeorge4559]

I know it's disgusting, that's people put billionaire and millionaire on a pedalstal

[@figuredrawing4912]

Facts. It's.......disgusting.

[@codygregg6683]

Are you dumb on purpose? Around 2 hrs of content you just watched and you heard someone defending the rich. No you heard someone looking for proof not reacting off hear say. Also not validating a story from a fake "victim" who was more than capable of choosing something else. That should be what WE ALL DO.

[@GeriatricSeal91]

but on the other side, people are so quick to jump to conclusions to crucify someone. Both sides of the aisle act higher and more noble than the other.

[@Bakemer94]

@@GeriatricSeal91 When it comes to the super rich versus someone who has nothing... I feel more sympathy for one side.

[@ThatSharkGirl]

Cliff, this is all in a friendly conversation, but if you know someone who was in an abusive relationship (because that’s what this boils down to) would you talk them “Well you should have just left, but you decided to stay”? If it was so simple, no one would be in those kind of relationships, but it happens to men and women. You are strong physically, and mentally, but not everyone is.

[@CliffBeatsOfficial]

Relationship? He was an employee offered a job. On the job he constantly complained and said he couldn’t leave because he needed the money. But then decided to leave when he realizes how much time he has left. Being in a domestic relationship is completely different from being contracted for a job. I’m not saying either of them Is in the right. I’m saying something doesn’t feel right with this and it’s just my opinion.

[@ThatSharkGirl]

@@CliffBeatsOfficial A relationship is any state in which two or more people are connected, not exclusively dating. A working relationship is still a relationship. That’s a common reason for people staying in abusive relationships is because of money. He wanted to impress Jimmy, he moved states for Jimmy, destroyed his car for Jimmy, and Jimmy used literal war crime tactics on him for a video. When you were a kid, and had nothing, do you think if would have been easy for your mom to walk away from $300,000? If it meant getting you out of a closet?

[@CliffBeatsOfficial]

@@ThatSharkGirl my mom wouldn’t fall for this ish. She worked 3 jobs to get us as far from where I was born. She made more than 300k over the years and wouldn’t follow some dude around the country to play games for a chance to win money, no. She’s not that gullible.

[@ThatSharkGirl]

@@CliffBeatsOfficial She made more than 300k over the years? No offense, but she was clearly more privileged than some of us. But I’m glad you have a strong mom, she clearly taught you to be strong. That plus your hard work got you to a place some of us will never make it. $300,000 would mean everything.

[@shade0mirth]

​@@CliffBeatsOfficial I think it feels a bit off, too, but I think some of that is because of the editing. I don't have a hard time believing that someone could have some kind of mental health crisis, but it's only hinting at being forced to stay in that room rather than actually stating anything specific. I'm reserving any judgment because it feels like there's a little too much spin to the story without knowing why it's edited like that.

[@figuredrawing4912]

1:14:55 What are you talking about? The guy featured in the video was trauma dumping...which has NOTHING to do with mr beast trying to play up drama.

[@savannahhill2818]

As I said on your original upload...this is an extremely disappointing take from someone who encourages their viewers to get in touch with them if they're struggling with their mental health. Is this the type of understanding you show those who do reach out? I certainly hope not. Not to mention the EXTREME effects people experience from sleep deprivation. I feel like this fact hasn't been considered much if at all. I don't understand your fixation on legality. I don't think the video was meant to speak on that at all. Instead I think it's meant to show a workplace culture that is immoral and lacks empathy for fellow humans. Everyone is not the same. Just because you are able to walk away from a horrible situation doesn't mean all people have that same ability. The crying situation isn't the same. He's saying Mr. Beast exploits someones tears of joy and appreciatoon to show how "great" and "generous" they are. This guy is crying tears of pain while attenpting to talk about an experience that was clearly very traumatic for him. So no it's not hypocritical because it's a completely different situation. Lastly, comparing suffering is never a good idea. Yes, you also experienced suffering during your childhood. I did as well. It sounds like you had a wonderful mom. I also had the very best mom in the world. Maybe this guy experienced suffering and DIDN'T have a great mom. I'm not saying that's true but my point is we don't know what else this person has been through and you never know what might finally break them. Like perhapse someone with a big platform that literally talks about being a resource for people struggling with mental health in every video, showing a lack of empathy and almost blaming them for what they endured. I can absolutely respect your opinion being different than mine. What I can't get behind is the way you went about expressing it. You didn't once question the dishonestly or unethical treament coming from Mr. Beast's side, while criticising every move ( or lack there of) made by the guy being mistreated. It's unnecessarily harsh and has a much greater potential to do more harm to the person struggling with their mental health. I mean, you are surely aware that there are people who really have a hard time standing up for themselves when being taken advantage of. Telling him he's a grown man that should've walked out is not only condescending, but dismissive as well. Giving him the benefit of the doubt wouldn't have been a difficult thing to do, especially considereing all the stories we've been hearing concerning Mr.Beast. The worst part of it all is, if you truly understand mental health (you do), you should absolutely know better. Supporting mental health is something you don't see on many channels and it was something I really admired about yours, but the way you reacted to this with almost zero empathy has been deeply disappointing for me. I hope you're able to reflect on how some of your rhetoric could quite easily worsen the state of someones mental state and also acknowledge how everyone isn't you. Things that you are capable of that work for you won't be the same for all other people.

[@bananna5468]

Couldn't have said it better myself. I respect you for typing all that!

[@Its_Bek]

Seems like he is doubling down in the comments

[@zoeylace4778]

100% agreed. So glad to see the people with sense in the comments

[@subarashiikylox]

yea ur thinking way too emotional

[@EnduringMelancholia]

That man was sleep deprived, under pressure from needing money and being manipulated by people… We can sit here and say we would walk away, but we aren’t there. We aren’t in that situation. Him breaking down like that… That’s fucked. It shouldn’t get that far, much less for fucking video content. And then to not even get everything you were promised because you didn’t finish “being tortured”? Yeah. No.

[@zoeylace4778]

Exactly

[@Azreal0864]

He got exactly what he was promised. He just didn't get paid the full amount for staying the full time...because he didn't do that

[@EnduringMelancholia]

@@Azreal0864 If we want to speak in terms of legality, I would want to see how the actual contract agreement was worded; if a contract wasn’t written, then that was a bad decision on Jake’s part to participate with nothing in writing regarding what he was willing to endure/do and compensation. (seriously always have something in writing before agreeing to shit like this). Morally, I think it’s fucked up that he didn’t get the whole amount purely because of how many issues the project/concept actually had when put into action. I guarantee you that no one considered the lights impacting his ability to sleep during the pitch meetings. The initial concept put into practice with Jake had too many arguably dangerous and questionable issues that weren’t expected, considered, or planned for until the concept was actually put into action. That being said, I personally feel he’s entitled to all that was initially promised even though he didn’t complete the “whole challenge” or whatever because Jake’s participation helped them figure out what needed to be addressed and tweaked the next time they wanted to do something like this.

[@figuredrawing4912]

Keepin it a buck? Then just say that you don't believe what this solitary confinement guy is saying; this is BASICALLY what it comes down to. You seem to simply think this guy is lying, JUST to defend a rich guy......and for what? I'm telling you. Your take is NOT going to age well.

[@CliffBeatsOfficial]

He took a contracted job. He wasn’t in solitary confinement and could have left at any time but he wanted the money. If it doesn’t age well, so be it. If you watched the whole video I even said I could see where dude is coming from but something doesn’t feel right. Must have skipped that part.

[@figuredrawing4912]

@@CliffBeatsOfficial I saw the whole video. This guy was taken advantage of. Yes, he COULD have refused the challenge. Yes, YOU (for example) would have pulled the plug as soon as you felt weird about the challenge, (be it mentally and or physically) but...the guy in the challenge is NOT you. How about trying to put yourself in his shoes? There are people ***everywhere*** who are peer pressured.....bullied at school...in the workplace, etc, etc, ect, who do things that are harmful to themselves....... You know this bro. Another commenter said it's akin to an abusive relationship, and that is a GREAT point. To blame the victim in this case does NOT tell the story. In closing, just because it's LEGAL to treat that guy in x manner, that does NOT make it right morally.

[@DuonDRaven]

​@@CliffBeatsOfficial Go Watch the Contestant, your world view on these matters needs to be expanded.

[@CliffBeatsOfficial]

@@figuredrawing4912 I was forced into a gang at 15. That’s a life and death situation, this was a contracted job he agreed upon. It didn’t sit right and says he couldn’t leave but did leave and still expected a full pay out for leaving early. You can go back and forth with me until your fingers are numb but I said what I said in the video. You can go to every comment section and be upset with me but I’m keeping things 💯 in my assessment with one watch. I think both parties are in the wrong here and something else is missing.

[@figuredrawing4912]

@@DuonDRaven GREAT recommendation.

[@brittanyparistx]

KZbin really ruined KZbin….

[@colleengarlow4705]

Damn.... I bet someone could tell you they were R worded, and first they'd have to answer 1,000 questions from you, show you video proof, then you STILL wouldn't believe them😂😂 I've never seen someone trying to make this many excuses for terrible behavior before. I dont even want to know how you are behind the scenes...

[@Belfyre7429]

I hope this also doesn’t go unnoticed cause I didn’t see you comment to this, I don’t think a lot of people have considered it except for one VTuber guy I saw but remember this; -the room had no ventilation and it was freshly painted, do me a favour and search up the effects of what can happen, you’d be surprised what you’ll find. Thanks for covering this video, appreciate it

[@kirstyoneill6609]

This is horrible that all this was hidden for so long xx

[@yamamotogotbodied1606]

I think by the end of Jack’s interview and progressively as it goes on you’re actually just nitpicking him and almost discrediting him because it’s inconceivable to you for a “Grown Man” to act or react in such a way. First misconception is the way your using grown man is from a toxic perspective as in how could a grown man not face confrontation or react confidently in aggression which not all men can do. And let’s be clear a grown man is a human with penis who has lived for a specific amount of time, that has nothing to do with their personality or experiences. So using grown man or in other words his age to belittle his behavior all because it wasn’t aggressive like yours would be. That’s it honestly I just felt like it was super disingenuous for you to try and make these links between your background for us the audience sake only to use said “connections or links” as validation to discredit him. I may have used a bit of charged language in this comment but at a certain point Cliff just starts tripping. I’ll also admit the guy is a bit unstable to say the least but not untrustworthy.

[@CliffBeatsOfficial]

I said what I said. Writing a paragraph isn’t going to change that. Listen to what I say. I even said I’m not him and it’s different for everyone.

[@yamamotogotbodied1606]

@@CliffBeatsOfficial you did say that and my paragraph wasn’t for to change anything you said respectfully. I went out of my way to comment to level out the bias for the audience watching. And granted I should have mentioned that you did say that you can understand people think differently and react differently, everything after that is picking apart how he reacts to stress and volatile situations from the way you would react and gauging whether or not he’s credible by how close he falls to your own way of thinking and behavior. Which while is fine and something we all automatically do as people as not every can put themselves in someone’s shoes, you don’t maintain that energy, you said you could understand how not everyone deals with things the same way, but then go on to say something is off with his interview or his version of things primarily because he didn’t remove himself from the situation in the same way you would. Now this time being generous to your position, that is when you stop to state you can understand that everyone again deals with intense situations differently, however your thoughts don’t go further than the statement based on how you followed up. I also agree that the paragraph is unnecessary especially because this one is to kind of change your opinion and I can clearly tell you’re the stand your ground type. So short and sweet, some “Grown Men” and probably more than you think are adverse to conflict even to the point of choosing the passive option or submission before ever thinking of aggression even if the threat of physical violence is involved. If my words are false how does the bullying dynamic work then. My only point is that for you to draw so many parallels between the two of you as a clear way of saying you can see where he’s coming from only to use that against him is nuts to me. I’m not gonna drag it because it’s not like you come out and say he was lying but whether intentionally or unintentionally you used the bits you two had in common to poke holes in his story simply because you disagreed with how to handle the immediate situation.

[@yamamotogotbodied1606]

@@CliffBeatsOfficial W response time btw. Also I forgot but you did also mention wierd cuts in the interview which I agree with and also that the point of it being rational to scrutinize both stories though because just how the creator of the video said about Mr. beast being willing to do anything to in his pursuit to be best KZbinr the same case could be made about the means he’s willing to go to take out Mr. Beast.

[@evawoods511]

Idk... You need to learn some basic psychology first before making such bold comments about this :/

[@zoeylace4778]

Literally. I mean honestly anyone with a shred of morality can understand this but clearly he has none.

[@bostonbingham9953]

"I'm not making a long video today" an hour later i'm still watching the video

[@blackpanther3912]

Jake Weddle and Mr Beast have come to an agreement on settling their beef. It's on Jake Weddle's YT Page.

[@Chris12987]

Ik some people are shitting on Cliff but I completely agree. If you know how horrible these people are you keep going back and if they were treating you horrible leave. I get he needed the money but still. Fuck Mr.Beast if this shitty a person but dudes a grown man who made a decision he needs to take a little responsibility for what happened. I hope he feels better.

[@CamSwanson]

It's safer for cliff to lean towards suckin Mr beast off as far as his sub count and channel goes tho so I get it. Same reason critikal has stayed silent.

[@MsStormwizard]

i have nothing and would love a wedge of money, but if someone come to me with this idea it would have been a big no. if it dont feel right then its not right.

[@taylorcollins8254]

7:36 yeah I live in Greenville, NC & originally Mr. Beast was known for doing random little fun giveaways, he’d show up somewhere & just start doing a crazy giveaway or something. Locally he had a pretty good reputation. But this was almost 10 years ago & clearly a lot has changed since then!

[@iamspeedkachow5926]

This video… Man, I enjoyed your videos. But this is an unsubscribe. I guess it makes sense, you’re a youtuber so it’s best to not talk bad about Mr. Beast. Goodbye.

[@zoeylace4778]

Same. It's a huge unsub for me. Like he's really sucking odd this youtuber who would never interact with him lol

[@Pondero36]

Good one👌 So much less comments and less weird moments in a video, on a second try.

[@ple8379]

Well, you can agree to have sex, but you can still get assaulted and raped during that. If the other person starts hitting you and makes you do things against your will, it's still using that person, they didn't agree on being beaten or tied up. Jake agreed on the challenge, but he didn't agreed to be tortured. And also, whether you ask a person their permission to kill them and they agree, murder is still illegal regardless. Torturing someone is illegal.

[@DevilsSavior666]

A lot of the cuts in the middle of stuff like you said is probably to only give 25% of what was said, not everything.

[@FiveAcross]

If your car gets hit by a meteor big enough to total it, you could probably make more than the value of the car selling the meteor :D

[@Glaciarctic]

honestly yeah

[@subarashiikylox]

imma think about it

[@888records]

I am sure they pressure him into it, etc.

[@ProjectMayhem219]

I'm with u Cliff. Is it fucked up? Yes. But if that was me I would a walked the fuck out. Went super viral for knocking out Mr. Beast. Also "No dies not mean No" thing is the same as never accept no for an offer. It's not illegal. If he was that upset he shoulda left for his mental health. Anyway. I know he's a YT genius I'm grown I don't care if they are fixed. If I hear more SA allegations then we need answers now. Facts

[@AstralMelody83]

This shit is ridiculous

[@taylorcollins8254]

Dude was saying that Mr. Beast was only interested in filming someone’s emotional response as a way to get more views & make more money. The interview in this video is completely different than what he was saying about Mr. Beast because his pain was genuine. Mr. Beast wasn’t genuine and didn’t give a shit about the people or their feelings. It’s not the same thing lol. I adore your channel & really love your content & input but I gotta disagree with you here But yes there is no concrete evidence in this video, but I think it’s a piece of a larger puzzle that is hopefully gonna have plenty of proof to nail anyone’s predatory ass to the wall. 😂🤷🏼‍♀️

[@Glaciarctic]

I have an opinion, and that opinion is, I think it's a bad idea to have an opinion on the internet.

[@TheStudioMouse]

how dare you say that!

[@subarashiikylox]

yea having an opinion on the internet is like a death sentence

[@samueldelhi]

You know its bad when rappers start getting involved lol

[@frizzman1991]

Hey Cliff, Jake put out a new video that goes over Mr. Beast reaching out after this video dropped. The title is clickbait (kinda, he uses it to make a good point) kzbin.info/www/bejne/fXSTgXiYatubipo

[@klennethavancena940]

❤❤❤

[@eshnic]

i am happy you stay critical and as neutral as possible. That's also why i'm subbed to you already for a while and you don't dissapoint.

[@eshnic]

when people accuse other people of something i expect facts, not opinions. Especially when it is about high profile KZbinrs.

[@ShoWulf]

This was so interesting. Great video, Cliff!

[@metabolic2057]

Re upload

[@SlickONick]

1:22:34 thanks for reading my message, appreciate it!

[@robertfyfe409]

So you're saying you came out of the closet at 14 😂

[@ainthafunnijohnpeer]

Love ya brotha

[@berniewatts5028]

How you doing Mijo 💋❤️💋❤️💋👵🏼

[@Thingsandstuff17]

wth

[@TS84NO]

I'll repost my comment from your stream: Gotta say I agree with you.. The first video showed lots of shitty things, while this second one made me sceptical even from the start. The dog-guy said "They contacted my people" So, he just started his KZbin channel, he only had one mic to use in the interview, yet, he have a whole team of people working for him? And when it comes to the guy getting interviewed.. He said in the beginning that he was SO happy to have left his job, cause it was an awful place to be, and he hated his boss. Then he later got on to saying how happy he was when they offered him a new chance to be in one of their videos.. And, at least to me, he seemed a bit too dramatic about things like, "the room had just been painted, and smelled like paint" (just like a newly renovated house will do), "the ice cream machine made an annoying noice" (it couldn't have been THAT loud, or else it would have ruined the audio for the video, right?), and "I got blisters on my feets from running (yeah it hurts, but if that's the worst pain you've ever experienced, well...) Also, HE said himself in the interview, that he couldn't quit, cause he wanted the money, and wrote in one of the texts that he was upset that he only got 100k, instead of 300k, AND he had to pay tax (yet he still had 54k left, for 10 days work), so it seemed pretty clear that money (or rather, getting as much money possible, as quick as possible) was his main motivation. And THAT is a choice he could have avoided, especially as he didn't say he needed the money for life saving surgery, or anything like that. He said he needed it to boost his own career.. *and yes, I get that it's not easy to say no in a situation like that, but he still COULD have said no. I mean, personally, I have aspergers and bipolar 2, and my self esteem have always been bad, yet when I was 18 and worked at a place were I got bullied by my coworker, it got to a point were I chose to quit on the spot. I had no savings, no new job in sight, but I knew I couldn't stay at that place, so I quitted..

[@everettburnett8247]

Sounds like dude is hurt that he didn’t make as much as them,first thing I say when I see him post a stay in a cage 7 day for 100k is fuck that shit,I’m good..

[@RyanTheBeast]

damn it's weird how much hate u get from what seems to be standing a middle ground

[@codygregg6683]

Clff your too nice bro. I dont sub to many people but i been watching you for a long time now. And i appreciate your upfront attitude and critical thinking. So im about to sub after this. Your comments right now are filled with morons. And i know you wont say it but we both know which ones im talking about. Just want you to know i see you bro. And keep being you.

[@adriangamboa7981]

Well said brother

[@Goodtide]

Thanks for coming on. My wild 🧠 stopped and I fell asleep. Do chris webby new song pleeeeeease. Daydream

[@weezy4497]

let me smoke some weed and i can probably do it lol

[@CliffBeatsOfficial]

🤣

[@Fjigg]

Imagine signing up for a contest and then complaining that it was too hard after you quit and didn't win the money. Pathetic and weak generation.

[@milktea100percent]

LMAO then 100% you'd do everything to win 5 mil in beast games which is a disaster right now. 😂.

[@frankcayseron8637]

imagine you are offered a good sale, 70% discount on something you really want but cant afford, but with the discount you might be able to afford it if you take a small loan. so you take a loan, spend all your savings to get what you want then it arrives and its fake and not just that, the people who scammed you for fake item also stole your credit card details and got you in even deeper shit. now go on and keep blaming a victim for not being ok with falling for a scam when that scam is coming from someone with credentials. being scammed by celebrity and public figure is very different than being scammed by a random guy on internet but please go on and blame the victim as if they are to blame for the bullshit

[@murder13love]

You're spot on in this Cliff. This guy is over dramatic, he has invested so much in this persona he has created but he has legitimate trauma over the situation. The texts dont look great, almost doctored. If im honest, this whole situation looks like kids playing "jobs" .. none of them know what theyre doing. Its a joke.

[@tmm4195]

Lol nah mr beast and this take is the real joke. Him not responding doesn't help his case either

[@murder13love]

@@tmm4195 no one would respond to anything before speaking to their lawyer, its what grown ups do when such serious allegations are bounded about. Bunch of kids watching other kids playing life. Its a joke. The whole situation is a massive joke.

[@tmm4195]

@@murder13love Lol sure buddy. Can’t believe how deluded you mr beast fans are. If you are still on his side now, you’ll stay on his side no matter what

[@ShadyDaEminem]

Honestly, neither side is showing more proof than the other, we need to see more cause right now I’m not sold on either side right now

[@murder13love]

@@ShadyDaEminem lol ok

[@pamelabodnovich3727]

U can't get sexual asault expunged

[@CancerKicker98]

I was thinking the same as you watching this video

[@taylorcollins8254]

7:36 yeah I live in Greenville, NC & originally Mr. Beast was known for doing random little fun giveaways, he’d show up somewhere & just start doing a crazy giveaway or something. Locally he had a pretty good reputation. But this was almost 10 years ago & clearly a lot has changed since then!