I Would NOT Trade THIS Montreal Canadiens Player...NO WAY!

[@shaunstarr]

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[@grandpuba3831]

Love the gymnastics being displayed... lets just say that we have no clue on Hugo's state of minds... what we do know so far is that the gears are spinning... did not forsee the Carrier deal... so the surprises will continue... that's why they're paid... I'm in my lazyboy with my bucket of popcorn to just enjoy the evolution of this team...

[@shaunstarr]

lets be clear. nobody here or who really even covers the team has a clue what the Hugo boys will do. I like to speculate and start a discussion though, Cheers Puba!

[@JustPaul357]

Evans even without the scoring is our PK king. Can't trade him.

[@costa328]

Sign Evans 4 years to 3.5 per year. Beck and others won't be able to do what Evans does now for another 2 years. Like Sean said even if doesn't score again you know what he brings .

[@RHaines76Gaming]

Even if Jake Evans didn't score another goal this year he will still prevent between 50 and 100 goals from being scored

[@shaunstarr]

solid take!!

[@KeithGreene-wu7bu]

Just look who was on the ice for the last minute of the Vegas game enough said keep Armia and Evans

[@Darkside-to6bs]

I am with you on Armia

[@shaunstarr]

armia is a dirty minute eating player. very underrated

[@KeithGreene-wu7bu]

@shaunstarr bottom six players are what wins Stanley cups and takes teams on deep runs

[@dden7670]

Evans is not 27, he will be 29 in June No need to replace Evans and Dvorak with Kapanen and Beck, Newhook will need a spot when Demidov takes his position in the top 6. And who says Dach is still the 2C next year? Is the current Evans the real Evans? Because $3.5+ for a 30 points 4th line player is too much.

[@shaunstarr]

the better question is does Evans go for the career homerun deal and try for it or maybe take less to stay here and take a roll on a team you know very well?

[@dden7670]

@@shaunstarr He hasn't made big money so far and he's getting close to his thirties. He doesn't fit the profile of the player that can afford to leave term and money on the table for a hometown discount. If you were his agent wouldn't you strongly advise him to go for that "homerun" deal? I know I would.

[@KeithGreene-wu7bu]

If you take armia and Evans out of the Montreal lineup that will be a setback for sure and hurt the team now and future

[@michaellamontagne6626]

Since Armia is returned on 4th line, they are winning their shift like never before, so why broke this with a trade. Btw, Armia was -10 on the second line and now he is +2 in only a month. Plus Heineman, we have a very solid 4th line.

[@KeithGreene-wu7bu]

@michaellamontagne6626 Armia is what every team in the NHL wants on the bottom 6 size that can win board board battles and protect the puck chip in with some points here and there and a great penalty killer look at last year when he played with Roy and newhook that was a fantastic line it is your bottom six that will win you the Stanley Cup and go on deep runs

[@michaellamontagne6626]

@@KeithGreene-wu7bu I maybe just don't understand why people want to trade a player that have success for hopes. Look the trade Barron-Carrier, we trade hope in Barron to have a real NHL player now, this is what we need to do. Trading an NHL player for hopes is for me the most stupid move to do. Yes we rebuild but I think we are in a good spot to turn the corner and stop making move for hopes, we have already a lot of young good players, a long list of draft pick for this summer. So we have enough invested in hopes, its time for NHL wins! My point. We have a good NHL team now, why broke this now for more hopes, because we win???

[@nocryers1173]

they shouldnt let either of them go unless they have replacements for them whether trade whatever---and the AHL isnt necessarily ready next year

[@KeithGreene-wu7bu]

@nocryers1173 you can get 3 to 5 years with both of them being great bottom six players and leaders for the team

[@nealmac9017]

When Sean says 60/40 on armia,my demidov alarm goes off. We need a wing slot next year. Armia is the only winger that is ufa

[@edcancade9025]

Absolutely right on!! Jake Evans makes every line he plays on better. We have traded away Danault and Lehkonen already so please don't repeat that mistake. Beck and Kapanan are still not ready to step into that role

[@sawadeejaaa5892]

100% Totally agree with everything you said.

[@sebastien__l]

A player having a career year during his last year before UFA, color me surprised! There is a price to re-sign Jake Evans, and there is a price to watch him walk away and wave him goodbye. Both scenarios are manageable. We are currently overvaluing him because of his recent results. He will regress to the mean, just like early season Gallagher has. Do not overpay for Jake Evans.

[@shaunstarr]

i dont disagree with you. Thanks Seb

[@sebastien__l]

@ Thanks for the show Shaun, always fun to watch!

[@benoitnormandin3804]

You guy's nailed it! Don't trade Evans and sign him!!!

[@shaunstarr]

They just might...

[@HabsTypeBeat]

3.5 mill? That’s a no brainer. A lot of third liners are paid that, he plays 15 minutes a game, they call it the 4th line but he’s deployed like a 3rd liner. 4 is a little steep but you have to do it. What’s 500k

[@shaunstarr]

love spending other peoples money

[@HabsTypeBeat]

@ Lmao yeah what’s 500k right? Haha

[@rich.jerkov]

Thank you Sean! I cannot understand the trade Evans side. It's not like he's this phenomenal player we can't live without. It's loosing another center we can't afford. We don't even have the minimum required of 4 centermen as it is. Dvo is not coming back. And we should trade another one?? This is my question for the pro-trade crowd: who go we replace him with?? Going into next season with 3 rookie centermen with no nhl experience would be catastrophic. This is the same issue that has plagued us for 25 years. When you are missing players at a key positions like C, you must sometimes overpay to fix the problem.

[@unrulian]

Hopefully your NY resolution is MORE Habs content.

[@shaunstarr]

FACTS!! Get ready cause lots coming. Laval Rocket too. that's out tomorrow at 10AM

[@AlexSrouji]

Evans is the modern day Guy Carbonneau - trading him would be a colossal mistake

[@concherover]

Great show

[@christianshaw9102]

Demidov could play center but i still wanna keep Evans

[@shaunstarr]

agreed!!

[@nocryers1173]

remove either dach or dvorak if demidov at center

[@nocryers1173]

and if demidov doesnt play center on 2nd line trade for one or sign a FA---put dach as center on 3rd line

[@powers1500]

Montreal can't seem to be able to draft high end centers but they still keep trying to turn their most talented wingers into centers. It has not worked too well especially with Drouin and Galchenyuk which were not "natural" centers in juniors even if they played at times that position. Same for Demidov who was drafted as a winger. However, had he played center all year showing that he is is a "natural" center in the MHL in 2023-2024, he would not have been gone top3 !!!

[@powers1500]

@@nocryers1173 most teams don't let go their two top line centers... unless they have serious flaws in their games(Dach & Newhook) or they may want to be overpaid. Good free agents especially centers don't want to sign in Montreal, so, this is why it is so important to draft them...wth good/early picks !!!

[@cecaju9516]

It’s not really about what he’s worth, but about how much cap space you can afford to allocate to your 4th line. Can you be a cup contender with $4 million tied up in a 4th line centre? Add Armia at $3.3 million and you’re at $7.3 million for 2/3 of a 4th line. Even if your fill the 3rd spot with an NHL min contract, you’re over $8 million spent on your 4th line.

[@rimbusjift7575]

That leaves 80 mil for the rest of the roster.

[@cecaju9516]

@ that leaves ONLY $80 million for the rest of the roster.

[@rimbusjift7575]

@@cecaju9516 Out of curiosity... Quick IQ test: Solve: 4, 5, 14, 185, ...

[@andrewwhyte9944]

And the cap is going UP!

[@shaunstarr]

I love this topic so much, great reply

[@crookedman54]

I've seen Evans trade talk on many HAB forums and I've stated on all of them this guy has done nothing but continue grow each year in the system . I'm fine to do the wait and see up to the trade deadline but we should be overpaid to let him go ! And I'd also add the fact management dwells on the building a culture where players want to come and stay and play here ! How does cutting loose a 28 year career HAB appear to the players in the league ?

[@shaunstarr]

great take

[@jimstoyles7617]

These guys that are in rockets Like he said Jake Evans already has it he's up there he's proven in these come on there's no brainer keep the guy and give him $4,000,000 thank you

[@moonobservergilles5730]

will evens repeat a season like this last year of his contract? maybe he can but no one has a crystal ball.

[@shaunstarr]

if i have to answer i say NO. That is why i told campbell evergyone loves evans when he's shooting at 30%

[@mikepouliot3630]

Trading Evans, could look exactly like Lars Eller for Washington.

[@xlwolfff]

Look im guessing Kent hughes is waiting for a first round pick offer for him. And hasnt received it yet. So thats why he hasn't talked to Evans about a contract extension. I say the return should be at least a top 6 forward prospect with nhl potential. Otherwise i wouldn't trade evans for a first round pick. You give him the extension you play him at 3c. And you move beck to the 4th line so he can develop. So evans can also be a good mentor to him. I'm guessing Hage will be our future 2c in 2-3 years time

[@shaunstarr]

I think he wants another Dach as opposed to a pick

[@xlwolfff]

@shaunstarr as he should. Were getting away top talent. Which will benefit any team on any given night. The return should be something that will help us immediately too

[@mcbitter3180]

Keep Evans... trade Dvorak, Armia and Savard

[@shaunstarr]

nailed it

[@alexpolidoro4126]

We developed Evans very well. Many experts were writing him off along with Armia as well. Anderson was a bust according to some award winning authors & sports writers throughout! The landscape has changed. Laine, Hutson, Heinemen, Carrier & Dobes have made this team very competitive! Plus the injuries have been limited for once because the last few years, it has been a disaster! The internal competition is healthy for an organization. Our depth chart has been the best since the days of Sam Pollock ! Everything will depend on how the team performs till the trade deadline. The goal is to continue the process while making the playoffs. Nobody will want to meet a team that has nothing to lose should we get there! Remember we let go Danault, Chiarot, Edmundson, Lekky and lost Price & Weber to career ending injuries! Huge losses indeed not to forget Monahan who signed with Columbus. I sense Reinbacher can easily replace Savard as he has really slowed down. The game is very fast now & Reinbacher has elite skating skills. Carrier fits in because he skates very well just like Hutson despite their size. Keep the team as is & worry about it later on. Hugo will only make a move if he is forced to now. No point getting hyped about the future if the team right now is doing well. Beck has potential but nothing is guaranteed. Getting to the NHL is hard but staying there is even harder. Enjoy the moments

[@shaunstarr]

great take

[@ShaneLavigne-ke2rh]

I say keep jake evens he is really good at what he does

[@danieldejong6382]

Management should sign Evans to a comparable 3C or 4C contract. Or if some team pays up BIG to get him, trade away. Anderson, Dvorak,Pezzetta, and Armia should be given opportunities elsewhere but way lower money if they want to stay. With the pipeline of kids expected to move up, we won't be consistent playoff contenders for another year or two. Free up money for future signings to maintain fiscal flexibility. Just my thoughts.

[@shaunstarr]

solid as usual Daniel

[@nunyabidness159]

4x5 is fine. in 2-3 years it's a very tradeable contract if someone starts pushing him out.

[@nunyabidness159]

one caveat: If a team offers an A+ center prospect for Evans KH will have to consider it. Don't trade him for picks or a reclamation project though.

[@powers1500]

$4 mils for 5 years for a 4th liner, it is way to much money...the guy has never produce a 30 point season yet in the NHL. Don't forget that Beck and Hage are likely more talented and will join the team within the next 2 years !!!

[@nunyabidness159]

@@powers1500 2 years is probably wishful thinking for Hage. 3-4 years is more likely.

[@francoisbouvier7861]

Keep Evans, keep Evans. Sure, at what cost? If he gets $3+ per/ 3 or 4 years. Good luck.

[@shaunstarr]

i think evans is looking at least 3.5-4mill a year??

[@francoisbouvier7861]

@shaunstarr sorry for him, because, Montreal doesn't have the money to do that. Two years max, which he likely would walk away from. Someone else will overpay, I wish him all the best.

[@CanadianBiPolarBear]

This years 2 1sts for Cozens . Put dvorak in the press box. Keep Evans, if he leaves for an over paid contract we are covered with cozens at center , if evans stays we can move dach to the wing when we call Beck up

[@shaunstarr]

lets go

[@CanadianBiPolarBear]

@shaunstarr so whe are we seeing Dobes again?? 23 yr old shuts out florida and hasnt seen the net since , not even tonight vs chicago . Its bin a week , thats not how you handle a 23yr old goalie not mentally not physically not for developmemt

[@jimstoyles7617]

Okay let me say 1 thing We got Lanny right he's got 7 $8,000,000 a season And you're telling me that Jake Evans is not up to par$4,000,000 is perfect for that guy 8 4,000,000 for sure I think Spin some more Some money they're getting a higher salary Prices coming off next year 10,000,000Give me the 4Thank you

[@carlod0]

Trade him with highest value for a top prospect who is ready next year and use Beck in his place. We have Dack Beck newhook suzuki which is fine

[@shaunstarr]

And more coming too thanks for watching

[@piratesofthegalaxy]

I 100% agree with Campbell; Evans is an invaluable asset for Montreal; they need to resign him to at least a 2-year contract.

[@shaunstarr]

28 years young and MAYBE his one shot at that career contract. 2 years...i dunno if he takes that?

[@calaroo]

I’m on the bandwagon, for trying to get Armia to get signed at that 2 yr@3.5 mil per year. And I’d love to keep Evans. I’d hope they could get him at 4 yrs at 3.5 per year. Who knows what will happen. I think the Canadiens need both these players if they want to compete for a cup 2-4 years down the road.

[@francoisbouvier7861]

It's a little early for competing for the SC. If Evans is getting $3.5 for at best 3 C its stuff sledding.

[@RonaldJMacDonald]

Don't trade him, he is as important to the Habs as Bob Gainey and Guy Carbonneau were.

[@shaunstarr]

great answer!

[@jabronirigatoni4648]

You needs vets, you cant just always have rookies and young guys and picks, and Evans and Armia are not old yet. Keep em please.

[@stevedaniels623]

Gotta trade Evan. Dvorak Armia. Savard. We have an abundance of potential 3rd 4th liners. Go after Jt Miller from Van for next year 3rd line center. Bring some grit

[@pierregagne1937]

I don't think Evans is not a playoff player, he's not tough enough

[@mikepouliot3630]

Based on what? Because Schiefle illegally hammered him in the head?

[@sebcharb7313]

Sign Evans and watch him become the old Evans.

[@BuellersBack]

I'll say it again...DO NOT TRADE Jake Evans! Not for the goals he scores which are a bonus, but for the goals he prevents. Owen Beck will be a very good player for the Habs but he will not be a Jake Evans, maybe ever, and definitely not in the short term. And why not have both! BOLD PREDICTION: Habs are going to squeak into the playoffs. GO HABS GO!😃

[@shaunstarr]

BUELLER!!!!!!

[@TheRickRoller1]

Good defensive centers just can’t be found. Don’t trade him.

[@RM-mh6jc]

Armia and Evans need to stay

[@shaunstarr]

even on a young team still rebuilding with the next wave coming

[@mr.nihilz3283]

The only way I trade Evans is for a blue chip prospect like what Edmonton did with McLeod. Getting Savoie was great. No more magic beans. D+2 forward that will be NHL ready in 1-2 years. Or 4 years at 3.75$ max. No point in keeping him if he handcuffs the top end talent with a heavy Gallager/Anderson/Dvo type contract.

[@jimstoyles7617]

Also I'm sorry I am 160 year old man that's much Canadians since the late 60s early 70s when Kenny Jordan just came on the league and ₩5 Stanley cups over This team is going to be Stanley cup 2627 season Guarantee guarantee guaranteed Cheap cheap player stop giving these players away You're leak You're you know I got a feeling they're keeping them Thanks again

[@moonobservergilles5730]

owen beck will replace devorac. NHL in 2025 is very different than 25 yaers ago. players think of there bank accounts first. like most people do also. all depends what Evens is ready to accept as a contract. but like many players they go for the big long contracts. as long as those contracts are signed by ownership and the players well it is what it is.

[@shaunstarr]

great take

[@michaellamontagne6626]

Montreal is not New York, when we win games, we just don't never talk about trade! ok

[@shaunstarr]

disagree

[@michaellamontagne6626]

@@shaunstarr Imagine the wife and kids of Evans : why Dad they want to trade you away from Mtl when you play your best Hockey? Evans : I fucking don't know, maybe they don't know Hockey here!

[@michaellamontagne6626]

@@shaunstarr And what is the message of the team if they trade Evans, let's go guys, play your best Hockey and I'll will trade you away!! It make no sense to me. I'm sorry.

[@BayBye2011]

Evans has to stay....no body in their system can replace him

[@mikepouliot3630]

Are you saying Danault is better than Evans? I'll take Evans over Danault all day long. He's better than Danault offensively, and similar in the faceoff circle.

[@adamdonigiewicz5961]

keep Evens nuf said

[@francoisbouvier7861]

Maybe this player is "over paid", maybe that player is "overpaid". All of sudden you're in a place .

[@shaunstarr]

explain Franky

[@francoisbouvier7861]

@shaunstarr I don't think any team can afford to overpay for one or two players, much less 3 or more. Which was Bergevin's problem. Paying a 28 year old player over $3/year when he's having a career in a contract year is a big risk. On a SC contender, Evans is a 4C. I think Beck and Tage both have higher upside. If and I really hope Dach pans out center may just be workable. Fringe but workable.

[@MorganBurton]

Evans wants a BIG contract. We have several young players ready to take his place. Trade him now.

[@MorganBurton]

He won't fetch a 1st rounder.

[@HabsTypeBeat]

Ready? I doubt that. They can replace his offense they won’t replace his defense, experience and leadership though.

[@shaunstarr]

If the team was closer I think there's a strong case to keep Evans but that isnt the reality so i agree with you

[@HabsTypeBeat]

@@shaunstarr We might be closer than people realize. We all realize that Demidov is the type of player who will likely win rookie of the year and who could be putting up 90 points year 2 and it would surprise nobody. He’s not your typical prospect. You have a legit ppg number 1 centre entering his prime. Two guys who have the ability to score 40+ goal in Caufield and Laine. A good bottom 6. Lane is a year or two away from cementing himself as a superstar but is already playing like a star. Guhle Carrier are one of the better shutdown pairings in the league. While having the best prospect pool in the league or close. The biggest question is at 2c but you could easily go acquire that with all the assets we have if you want. Add a couple more useful vets. The playoffs are unlikely this year but not impossible. We could make the playoffs next season and takeoff. We’re young but so was NJ.

[@AlvinWazHere]

I mean you have to think of it this way. We have to sign Hutson, Demidov, Laine etc…. eventually. Gallagher’s contract and Anderson’s will clog that cap. Is signing Evans for 3-4mill worth it. You can get a 3/4th liner defensive center for 1 mill. And for the young bucks in the system they are knocking the door for a spot. Kapanen, Beck, Hage and who knows who we draft this year. And based on Hughes and Gorton we arent there yet. No point of locking up Evans. After 1 Good season, this is the only season where he is popping off. And lets not forget about his Concussion injuries. Id rather call a young center up as he develops in the big league than keeping Evans and stress about Cap Space when we have to lockup young studs.

[@shaunstarr]

great take thank you

[@paulgiardetti1579]

The only reason to keep them is if they are still in the playoff hunt. You can also trade evans, and resign him, every one has recency bias regarding evans, at the beginning of the yr would you have paid him 4 M for 5yr, no you wouldn’t . Next yr, Beck will replace evans no problem, Newhook will slide down to play between Anderson and Gally. Demidov to the second and let dach continue to develop. kapanen played well enough, could also sign yani gourde, In the summer as well. If the habs continue to play well and be in the hunt, the only player i would trade is divorak, and give beck a go.

[@shaunstarr]

solid paul

[@Darkside-to6bs]

Trade him without any doubt he has market value now he won't again. Evans 21 - 22 13 g 16 A - 5 / 22 - 23 2 G 17 A - 5 / 23 - 24 7 G 21 A +1 Two players that should not be traded are Anderson and Armia. Beck and do not forget Kapanen both can fill Evans spot just as well if not better.

[@shaunstarr]

agreed!!