Don’t see why changes are needed to make her a better support, yet her being just a mage support seems just out of the question. I get changing champ kits to scale in proper power and all, but making a champ less viable in roles they are meant to fill just seems like a miss to me.
@mariseae10 ай бұрын
fun fact, if you check seraphine's games played in support - she has more games played with AP mythics as a mage sup than as an enchantress :D Riot's idea is that, like Vi (who was originally a toplaner), if people don't play the champion in that lane mostly than they shouldn't be balanced for it. Balance for what people play not for what was on the design sheet. The real miss is the thought that most sera support players want to focus on her heal shield capabilities not on her overall kit
@lucygates192910 ай бұрын
@@mariseae Exactly. I play Seraphine as a mage support. It just feels like it has more value than echo. She’s not a standard enchantress, so it doesn’t make much sense they riot to try and redirect her based on “what the player base wants” when they still choose to play her like a traditional mage support. XD Just seems riot doesn’t know what they want half the time, with the players having no idea either.
@isaacmalown700310 ай бұрын
Anyone else think Eboys Ego is getting out of bounds? Ioki clearly asked for a Hi and not a rebel answer of Hello...
@i0kiVids10 ай бұрын
Smh he's changed
@seventyfour825610 ай бұрын
@@i0kiVids similar with another xerath before him.. I can see a pattern here.. Ioki,.. corrupting xerath players is no good! But thanks what you did to Zwag :D
@rickyhall147810 ай бұрын
Yeah I feel like I can agree with you there
@lynnalyncher946210 ай бұрын
21:16 HELP. HER HAND.
@nabilsaad327010 ай бұрын
LMAOOOOOO
@seventyfour825610 ай бұрын
Literally every single one of your videos is sooo satisfying to watch.. it s just the commentary, the chill gameplay, the explanations and guesses you speak out loud, like: "He should be right here, *explains with gamesense how he calculated that*." You & Zwag are my faves on YT, together with Eternal (Hero). PLEASE Ioki, never change! Also play Pantheon support pls. I can t have enough of ADCs or other lanes seeing a helpless support and said support just tears through them with an ungodly ammount of AD or on-hit.
@radostinbojkov417510 ай бұрын
Could you try building moonstone on sera as I think it is as good of a mythic as helia due to the decrease of the cooldown of the w and the fact that she can shield mutiple people. I am interested in your opinion on the matter
@isaacmalown700310 ай бұрын
Love that tahm used his dive early to keep u close as mid was coming.
@davidbai354310 ай бұрын
if you artifically limit a character to 1 role isnt that just a nerf in general
@5ebliminal10 ай бұрын
how is this a rework let alone 10 times better?!? you get shitier heals for better Q damager? such good, very support missing health W went from 5% lvl 1 to 3% THEN they nerf lvl18 from 7% to 5% BUT you get a lil bit bigger shield and lower W cooldown lvl 18 so if you really dont wanna throw maybe max W to make up for the shit heals sure theres the armor and other stat changes but thats not nearly enough for a "rework"
@seventyfour825610 ай бұрын
200 years
@jl-kun10 ай бұрын
Please try Sera support with Moonstone and let us know what you think!
@mr.q457510 ай бұрын
Rip my apc😢. Also u could get coached by cupic for a vid.
@puma21puma2110 ай бұрын
Wasn't Seraphine supposed to be a mid laner....
@i0kiVids10 ай бұрын
Yeah, she was supposed to be a "supportive midlaner" but was more popular as Support, until playing her as Support was significantly worse than playing her as Mid/ADC, which brings us to now where Riot very clearly wants her as Support.
@jasoncrosby955810 ай бұрын
@@i0kiVidsit’s soo shittyyyy
@Cino-Cin10 ай бұрын
You guys remember Ioki’s blonde phase? I wonder how he would look with red hair?
@3agaming6410 ай бұрын
Hey ioki just want to see if you’ll try it out but carmille support man would be awesome to see you play. Just a suggestion to my favorite league player.
@i0kiVids10 ай бұрын
idk if I'll end up playing it, but just wanted to show my appreciation for you calling me your favorite league player. much love
@3agaming6410 ай бұрын
no problem man you put in the work to get the videos out so you deserve the praise. you taught me to play league support and plus you got me watching the fun squad. Enjoy the content and keep going man i appreciate the work you put in. @@i0kiVids
@jordandean50710 ай бұрын
I never stopped playing sera support so I'm super excited for these buffs to come through and let the champ shine in my role. I'm also really excited for the Janna changes next patch I've been dying for some i0ki Janna gameplay but even as a Janna main I'll say she's currently super reactive and not too exciting, so I'm glad they are putting proactive agency back in her kit and hope to see more hameplay of both sera and Janna on your channel soon :)
@dischord467110 ай бұрын
bro really tried to ward Q the GSA. SMHing my head head
@johnredd222310 ай бұрын
plz try out cocabob's impregnator seraphine build
@Rocco.10 ай бұрын
actually against these changes, theres still not much reason to pick her over other viable supports like karma. I think she was the most enjoyable to play when she was balanced for mid lane
@dennismorgan370110 ай бұрын
Karma is absolutely not viable right now lol
@5ebliminal10 ай бұрын
@@dennismorgan3701 i'd agree if you said this before 13.20 but she got decent enough ap buffs recently that high elo players are considering her playable compared to anytime in the recent past
@Liilliithh10 ай бұрын
They all were; riot just doesn't like it when their player's girlfriends go mid; it's their version of stay home and make a sandwich JK. But srsly; lots of champs built for other roles have worked as support; top lanners as jg or mid, mids go jg, adcs go top... but god forbids you try to go Soraka top... riot will lose their shit.
@marquisepixley68410 ай бұрын
I disagree with you
@user-bn5od3df5j4 ай бұрын
"ur dogs" sound more like little rats omeone stepped on , haha
@atomickarate342110 ай бұрын
Am I the only one that feels like Echoes isn't that good anymore? I always end up getting low value on it.
@darkwatts546110 ай бұрын
When is the last time you checked out Braum?
@seventyfour825610 ай бұрын
i second thisss!
@InterruptingOctopus10 ай бұрын
200 years of game collective design experience and they had to rework two supports entirely due to how hated they are.
@dylanmassengill12010 ай бұрын
200 collective years
@seventyfour825610 ай бұрын
@@dylanmassengill120 200 years
@isaacmalown700310 ай бұрын
he did ping it all
@seventyfour825610 ай бұрын
11 MILLION timess!! (It costs 11 million pings, to guide my botlane.. for two seconds...)
@rickyhall147810 ай бұрын
So if Sera's cool downs are being reduced, and her base damage is increasing but her scaling is significantly decreased that badly... She could, theoretically, be feasible with using a tank/bruiser build?
@FA-ee6xz9 ай бұрын
10x better support with 49% wr
@Ghostfriend2959 ай бұрын
So am I the inly one with AP seraphine supp 😂
@christianbeberagge69519 ай бұрын
making changes to some numbers is not a rework lmao.
@RukiHyena10 ай бұрын
hope they gut her like they did my poor yuumi, yuumi didnt deserve it.
@MegablasterMan110 ай бұрын
First
@alvaromaicas703910 ай бұрын
Sry im spammer in games when i play sera y press all time ctrl+3