nvidia's Glorious Mistake | GTX 1080 Ti

[@IcebergTech]

ERRATA/CLARIFICATIONS 01:37 To clarify: Maxwell 1 cards (the GTX 745, 750, 750 Ti and their workstation/data centre equivalents) don’t support feature level DX12_0. This feature support is needed for several modern games, including Elden Ring and Forza Horizon 5. IMO any GPU arch which claims to be DX12 Compatible, but which only supports DX11_0 or 11_1 features, doesn’t truly support DX12. This also applies to Kepler (GTX 600 & 700 series) and AMD’s GCN1 (HD 7000, half of the 200 & some of the 300 series). 11:50 The Witcher 3 is clearly CPU limited at 1080P Ultra using the Ryzen 5 5600X, so - as mentioned in the voiceover - users of older/lower end CPUs will see lower FPS in DX12. 15:37 Disregard the TLOU comparison, the RX 5700 XT was tested with an earlier patch. I had dropped texture resolution and other VRAM intensive options, which A) should no longer be necessary post-patch 1.0.4, and B) may account for the higher performance. Sorry!

[@hayk3r]

the GTX 760 only supports DX11_0 too

[@uzayonat]

Have you considered using translation layers such as DXVK or VK3D to test these old cards? Sometimes, old cards can have decent Vulkan support while lacking in their DX12 support, including all the features. By translating DX11/12 to Vulkan and running the games that way, it can be quite helpful and may even enable a card to run a newer game that it otherwise couldn't. Additionally, on Linux, the open-source AMD driver (amdgpu) offers optional experimental support for GCN 1.0/1.1 cards, allowing them to utilize newer Vulkan features and optimizations implemented by the driver team. This topic is frequently discussed on Linux-oriented forums and sites, yet KZbinrs rarely create videos about it. It could make for an interesting video.

[@Vfl666]

The upcoming games want a dx 12_1 this means the old rx 500 and older are not supported anymore.

[@Aspira-Compakal]

A plague tale requiem resolution optimizer set to ultra quality will render the game at full resolution with no up scaling as in the engine settings Primary Scaling is set to 1 and Secondary Scaling set to 1

[@CompatibilityMadness]

Titan V from 2017 would be interesting to test in few years... (since it's way too much $$$ at the moment)

[@doubleacoarnaud9280]

Making a very good product that will be useable in the long term sure is a horrible error

[@haukikannel]

It is. 1080ti has made every Nvidia GPU after it look bad in comparison… Nvidia does not make the same mistake again!

[@armed_but_blind2768]

Yeah they really fucked up this product

[@alext3811]

I'm still using my 1060 3GB despite it not having enough VRAM to run modern games. Even Samurai Warriors 5 (It's devs Koei Tecmo / Omega Force aren't known for being a tech powerhouse) struggles due to VRAM. Hell, certain GZDoom wads run out of VRAM (GZDoom is a sourceport of classic '93 Doom).

[@trackingdifbeatsaber8203]

I am still pretty happy with mine

[@d9zirable]

After all, planned obsolescence is their core philosophy

[@DrearierSpider1]

It's sad that an amazing value product that sells extremely well is considered a mistake by companies.

[@Sunrust]

I think the wii was considered also

[@vmafarah9473]

Coz 1080ti owners refused to upgrade.

[@snark567]

It's not about how well it sells, it's about longevity. Yes it sold well, but it's longevity meant that a lot of people who bought the card probably spent 5-6 years without upgrading and once it enters the second hand market there's still a lot of people who'd buy it rather than spending money on a new GPU. So much money not flowing into the company because the product they released was too good.

[@vmafarah9473]

@@snark567 Its difficult to kill a gpu, if a company want to last 3 years ,most of them may die sooner than 3 year and can cause bad reputation to company, or else it last longer .

[@twiittter]

Corporate greed

[@Odinsday]

Pascal really was the best GPU generation from NVIDIA. Even its worst cards had some value to them.

[@frale_2392]

I bought a 1060 6gb in 2017, sold it in 2022 and it was perfectly capable to run every game i threw at it at 1080p 60fps medium-high settings, never had a single problem with it. Amazing card honestly, I was a bit sad after giving it away.

[@Purjo92]

GTX 1060 3 GB and GT 1030 DDR4 were pretty crap tho.

[@Hairybarryy]

They hit gold with Maxwell and they were able to shrink and double its clocks to create Pascal and release it in only a couple years after Maxwells release. Rumor was that pascal was already done when Maxwell was released.

[@takehirolol5962]

The 1050 Ti was crap, for $25 more you could buy a RX 470 that was much more powerful than the 1050 Ti. Then in 2017 Etherium came and the only acceptable GPU for a decent price was the 1050 Ti, including the large numbers of owners from specific areas of the world.

[@fleurdewin7958]

@@takehirolol5962 That is if you only care about gaming . RX 470 has no hardware accelerated VP9 decoder for KZbin. All Pascal cards even from the lowly GT 1030 has VP9 support.

[@Reegareth]

The 1080 Ti honestly has legendary status. It was one of the highest performance leap cards ever made by nVidia and was maybe a high price but it was actually justified at the time unlike what were seeing now.

[@Sergmanny46]

1080 Ti at 700$, while the 4090 is 1,600$. And who knows if they'll dare to stick a 2,000$ price on the upcoming 4090 Ti (actually the 4090 from infamous Asus is 2,000$ *shivers* ). Meanwhile most that 700$ can get you today is the 4070. We're definitely living in the dark ages of gaming.

[@markomarkovic5729]

@@Sergmanny46 Not just graphic cards, look at the smartphone market. The situation is even worse, they often sell worse new models for more money.

[@friendofp.24]

​@@Sergmanny46This is why just encourage people to buy consoles these days. I'll never switch, but if all you do is game, the value proposition in PC hardware is atrocious.

[@Sergmanny46]

@@friendofp.24 Never thought I would see the day where recommending a console over a PC is actually the better choice. But then again, 500$ for a brick that can virtually play anything you throw at it is something that cannot be ignored.

[@casualmime2792]

The 1080ti is 48% faster than a 980ti while a 4090 is 76% faster than a 3090. 649 vs 700 launch and 1500 vs 1600 msrp.

[@Tonba1]

The fact the 1080 ti can run RT at all without any rt cores is pretty impressive

[@thegrindizreal5896]

😂I was thinking this

[@Soggy-Soy-Toy]

Na yall just eat up anything pr says, you don’t need rt cores for rt

[@DeterminedFC]

clown@@Soggy-Soy-Toy

[@flufficornss]

@@Soggy-Soy-Toy for stuff like path tracing and how ray tracing is done nowadays they are pretty well necessary but in light applications like older RT games it isnt needed

[@WantBadtime]

@@flufficornss Those Minecraft Shaders go so well with the 1080Ti at 1080p.

[@rmgaminguk7079]

The 1080ti is an absolute beast. It's an example of what Nvidia does when it thinks it has competition. The upcoming AMD card at the time was hyped to have such high performance that Nvidia bought out the 1080ti, the AMD card didn't meet the hype leaving us with the legend that is the 1080ti. I've got its little brother the 1080 and the ti is roughly 30% faster. That gap for a ti is ludicrous. I am currently deciding between upgrading my monitor to 1080p high refresh rate or 1440 high refresh but needing a GPU upgrade. If I had a 1080ti I wouldn't need the GPU upgrade to play at 1440p high settings. Buying something like a 6700xt doesn't seem so appealing when the 1080ti exists.

[@tomdr93x]

6700 XT is worth it, no joke one of the best value for performance you can get rn

[@rmgaminguk7079]

​@@tomdr93x It's one of the best cards at the moment. It's roughly 51% faster then my 1080, but it would still be a silly upgrade for anyone with a 1080ti being only a 19% improvement.

[@omegaPhix]

​@@rmgaminguk7079 If you paid 700 bucks for a GPU back in 2017 you'll buy a 6900XT or something like that nowadays

[@rmgaminguk7079]

@@omegaPhix Anyone that paid $700 for a GPU would have upgraded years ago. I was more considering the 1080Ti as a current purchase for someone looking to upgrade to it. The poor state of the brand new budget market makes buying a second hand 1080Ti a decent option.

[@omegaPhix]

@@rmgaminguk7079 6600XT performs about the same and doesn't cost much more

[@redslate]

Man, I remember pre-ordering the Founder's Edition as soon as it became available. Barely got my order in as it sold out in minutes. I knew it was going to be a good card, but no one could have guessed _how_ good this many years later. It's too bad Nvidia turned on its customers.

[@ThatGuyNamedRick]

I still have mine, both of them. Nvidia managed to burn me on the SLI lie for gaming, but for Video Editing and 3D modeling applications that use it *MY GOD* it still blows any single card on the market even today.

[@boniakarlo]

They made the nokia 3310 of gpu and immediately regret it

[@789uio6y]

It's just a horrible card. 4090 can do 8k 60fps. Even 1080ti could not every do 4k 60fps max, just 1440p only.

[@morettillo5487]

@@789uio6y my guy over here thinking technology doesnt evolve

[@redslate]

@@ThatGuyNamedRick SLI 1080 Tis here as well, First ever 4k60 GPU config. 😊 We saw _Tomb_ _Raider_ achieve ~90% SLI scaling circa 2017... That was incredible! 1:1 SLI scaling was *within* *reach* , but Nvidia killed it, because they knew it would cannibalize sales/delay upgrades. Cowards... 😆 You're right, for production workloads, the rendering difference between a 4090 and 2x 1080 Tis is

[@marcuscook5145]

I purchased this mistake a couple of months after launch and it was a fantastic card. Maybe the best Nvidia ever released, right up there with the 8800GTX. Used it for 5 years until I replaced it with a 6900XT.

[@hobosnake1]

Man the 8800gtx. That was all the rage. Wasn't that around the time of Crysis coming out? Man that's making me feel weird to think about. I'm nearing 30 now and pretty sure I was like 12 or 13 at the time.

[@dex6316]

Nothing will ever beat the 8800GTX’s performance improvement. 130% faster and the introduction of CUDA and unified shaders. Absolute insanity. Then it was followed up with the 8800GT delivering most of the performance for $250! Those days were great indeed.

[@jamezxh]

@@dex6316 yeah the 512meg 8800gt was phenomenal value . I had 2 in Sli back in the day and Crysis was awesome.

[@honkhonkler7732]

​@@dex6316 Oh yeah, nothing will beat such a large leap for a long time. I just typically tend to look at GPUs based on relative value and longevity. I think the 1080Ti will end up being a rare Nvidia finewine scenario. I had an HD 7970 before my 1080Ti and I probably could've gotten another couple of years from that card had I not moved to 1440p.

[@kalumander]

I just ordered 6950 XT to swap my 1080 Ti. How happy with the results are you?

[@Winter-mj7tq]

I had a Titan X Pascal in my PC for a long time (the 1080 ti hadn't been announced yet) and it still ran really well until I replaced it recently with the 7900 XT. I gave my Titan X to my sister who still had a 1060 at the time and she's been happy with it. The Pascal generation really was peak nVidia.

[@buckrogers8858]

6 years. Still running 1080ti SLI. Both cards cooled 480 360 and 120 rads. Just now experiencing temps above 50C(the one card that is used the most). Thats probably due to lack of maintenance loop wise. These cards are solid. I will box these cards up and keep them when its time to retire them.

[@uziboozy4540]

One of the GPU fans broke on my ASUS Strix 1080 Ti card, but I kept on using it because it was honestly amazing. I just bought a Lenovo Legion Slim 7i laptop and it's only slightly better than my 5-6 year old gaming rig from 2018.

[@kevito666]

what drivers are you using? i never could figure the best combo to run most games- i always had to change the driver and support software depending on the game i was playing

[@XionLuis]

this card was my wet dream for so many years. it still kinda of is. the best card nvidia has ever made

[@td3132]

@Transistor Jump they didn't say best performing. just best. as far as legacy, the impact it made.

[@spacechannelfiver]

@@td3132 there's been a few bangers over the years; Geforce 2 and 8800GTX spring to mind

[@td3132]

@@spacechannelfiver that's true. But in modern gaming. Must of us think of the gtx 1080ti

[@spacechannelfiver]

@@td3132 yeah for sure, it’s still viable. Good to see the mention of the 5700XT at the end as that was a card a lot of people slept on. Both would be good secondhand options. Just replaced mine due to a slightly unplanned 4k upgrade which was just too much for it.

[@radumirceabunica7492]

@@spacechannelfiver had a geforce 2 bacl in the day. don't know where it is now. but i still got my 8800gtx and 1080 ti. will keep these for " a while" :D

[@zeriiyah]

Thank you for making the comparison with the 5700xt at the end! I've been looking into both cards recently, trying to decide which to get

[@pandemicneetbux2110]

I have a 5700XT Taichi and I adore that card. I also found myself crapping all over nVidia's software as a result. AMD's literally got the superior GPU software from that era. Just remember if you do get it to set a custom fan profile, my only problem is I have a factory OC'd version and the OC vBIOS for some boneheaded reason doesn't have the fan curve to match, but you can't set a custom fan profile without tuning the card manually, so I'd had to set my custom profile with either OC or undervolt (or both lel) and set up the fan profile to hit full blast, otherwise it'd overheat. Well especially running shit like Cyberpunk. I just played Cyberpunk 2077 at ultra detail levels 1440p with this card, and that's the hardest game I ever threw at it, you may not mind but I don't like upscaling so I settled for 38-42fps and ultra native over 55fps with FSR quality. If you're at 1080p you can probably run Cyberpunk at closer to 60fps all ultra settings with that card. The only thing I even had a problem with was texture memory overflow into using system RAM, and so that well known cyberpunk bug with the muddy textures sometimes happens when I hit 10gb of VRAM usage but that's 1440p ultra (if you had a 1080ti that will not be a problem tho). Depend which is cheaper. Oh, and also about how much you want to deal with the used market, bear in mind 5700XTs probably going to be mined on, I mined several hundred dollars off mine and still used it to play Cyberpunk later. But if they cost the same, consider the 11gb of VRAM. If it's cheaper, the 5700XT may be the next RX 580 imo of rock solid budget entry. It's still a 1080p ultra settings card even on brand new games. It performs about the same as an RTX 3060 does.

[@zeriiyah]

​@@pandemicneetbux2110 Thank you for such a detailed response! The 1080ti and 5700xt are around the same price used for me (the 1080ti being only £10 more), I'd opt for the 1080ti simply because of the vram difference but I worry a little since its quite a bit older than the latter card & I'm looking for longevity. Both these cards have downsides when buying used, as the 5700xt likely would've been used for mining & the 1080ti is pretty old so it would've seen more abuse from a previous owner. Though I am leaning closer towards the 5700xt and I probably wouldn't be playing *too* many brand new titles, though If I was I'd be playing in 1080p.

[@CashtoFridayy]

Ive got a evga gtx 1080 sc looking at 6700xt as an upgrade for 1440p gaming there cheap new

[@jacksonbtb571]

@@zeriiyah If both are similar prices, you can't really go wrong with either. The 11gb of vram is definitely a nice thing to have, but if the games you play will still run fine on 8gb then I would probably get a 5700 xt. They are usually cheaper than the 1080 tis, at least on ebay here in the US. Not to mention, the cheapest 1080 ti cards are going to be blower models, and they can be loud and hot

[@fiece4767]

@@zeriiyah Gtx 1080 Ti is a better option cus it allows you to play current AAA at 1080p. I have used both, still own 5700xt as a backup and both are strong even at 2k. Doesnt matter if its used for mining as long as miner cared for the card and could be in better condition than a manually OC-ed gaming one. In the end what looks better to you and which software do you like better AMD's or Nvidia's also price, one has lower power draw and other has 3gb of Vram more. Non are RT gpu's so they dont optimize and make best drivers for them.

[@eco999]

Just upgraded from 1080Ti to 4090 last month lol. Lasted me almost 7 years. Back in the day it allowed me to touch on 4k gaming for the first time and 1440p through all these years with some minor compromises. Didn't have RT so no problems and performance strain there. 60fps perfectly achievable. 11GB VRAM! still holding up. It basically really aged 1-2 years ago with games like Hogwarts, Calisto, Cyberpunk, Witcher3 Next-gen, Jedi Survival. Truly a champion of a card. Sold it for 200$, RIP.

[@K11...]

Me too, and I expect the 4090 will keep me happy for the next ten years.

[@slickrounder6045]

@@K11... That pretty optimistic. I'm willing to bet any amount that Igpu's will be better than the 4090 well before "ten years". Just next year (2nd half 24') we have Strix Halo Mega Apu coming out with 40 Cu of Rdna 3 and a 256 bit bus of lpddr5x, with projected performance equal to the desktop 4060ti, thus having usurped the prodigal 1080ti in just ~7 years since its release. By the time Rdna 4 based igpu's are out (no rumors on that yet, earliest we will see it would be late 2025) I wouldn't be stunned if even the 4080 is already threatened. The earliest Igpu with the potential to usurp the 4090 would probably be Rdna 5 based somewhere near ~2027, but even the most cautious prediction would have Igpu's beating the 4090 by 2030 (Rdna 6). By 2033 even a lowly Steam Deck 4 or wtvr with a much weaker igpu (relative to the Mega Apu's Amd is making which will wipe out "low-end" gpu's) should be beating a 4090.

[@Hybris51129]

@@slickrounder6045 Short of technological shift there is no evidence to show that a 4090 will suffer any sort of short term drop in performance. Realistically you can reasonable be assured of 5-7 years of reliable service with little to no compromises after which by the 10 year mark you are likely to either need/want a new GPU or we will see new games finally force you to start tweaking setting considerably to maintain a useable level of performance.

[@slickrounder6045]

@@Hybris51129 There is constant "technological shift". 7 years later the prodigal 1080ti is now firmly a low end card (sub $200 used, beaten by new $200ish cards) relegated to primarily 1080p for the most demanding new releases. Zero reason to assume the 4090 will defy history and somehow maintain midrange status 7 years from now (forget about 10 years from now, when again even lowly steam deck handheld with igpu graphics should comfortably beat it. Bank on it).

[@Hybris51129]

@@slickrounder6045 Sadly the number of people still gaming comfortably at 1440p@60+ fps on a 1080 ti shows otherwise.

[@zenith110]

Mine is still kicking. I wish there was some sort of equivalent now, but... the dark times are ahead of it

[@richardgray4485]

I am so happy I bought my 1080ti when I did. Upgraded to a Ryzen with 32gb of ram. Hoping GPU prices come back down for the next gen. Still able to run all my games at this point

[@Mechenzo440]

Man gtx 1080ti is still a beast

[@themightylordofgoblins6880]

The zwormz face at the end killed me lmao

[@romanbriggs2457]

This video popped up on my homepage front and center, and I am so happy you made this video! I do in fact run pretty much the rig you demo'd. It's a Ryzen 7 5700G and 32GB of DDR4 on an ASUS B550 board, with graphics provided by a 1080 Ti of the AORUS variety. I purchased this card back in 2017 for $789US and have used it basically every day since. Hands down one of the best purchases I've ever made, because a new GPU around the $800 mark that would be a significant upgrade just came out this year. I don't play a whole lot of fast-paced realistic looking games, which is definitely helping my experience, but overall it's been an exceptionally capable and reliable piece of hardware. Thank you again for reviewing it in 2023!

[@HallyVee]

Had a feeling that extra VRAM would carry performance well into the future, big mistake trying to go without that, although many games do well allowing me to compensate.

[@megapet777]

I remember when the 10 series cards were launched. The performance jump was insane. After that the 20 series performance increase felt so miniscule. But of course the main focus on that release was to introduce RT.

[@HybOj]

yes, RT in a unusable form :D and DLSS 1 which was just a shitshow

[@megapet777]

@@HybOj It has to start somewhere. Of course you could say that iphone 1 is shit compared to iphone 15 pro but we wouldnt have the modern iphone without the first one. Same goes for RT and DLSS

[@HybOj]

@@megapet777 Im just stating facts, not sure what u want to debate :D

[@megapet777]

@@HybOj I'm not debating anything. I'm just saying even though the first gen RT was weak it was necessary step to have the current and future RT. So there's no point to laugh at first generation of anything. That's how progress is made.

[@HybOj]

@@megapet777 ok so imagine I did not put ( :D ) there and we are in agreement. Ofc 1st step is always necessary to get anywhere. I agree. And I also say that the 1st implementation of DLSS was really bad, ppl tend to forget :) It changed to completely different system, which is no more trained on each game, but on a training set of general situations.

[@coopers1716]

Scored a lightly used EVGA SC model for $190 yesterday. Its incredible that a 6 year old card can maintain this much relevance.

[@coldheaven8007]

Is it still working? Kinda risky buying such an old card used

[@coopers1716]

@@coldheaven8007 It is! It runs my primary PC that's on basically 24/7. I will say that I did get lucky, I could tell out of the box that it had barely been used. Almost zero dust in any of those impossible to reach corners in the heatsync. Honestly mining cards would be safe purchases too, the real wear is from thermal cycling the components on the card.

[@deyandimitrov7287]

I remember this being my dream card in 2017 but I wasn't even close to affording it, so I settled for a second hand 1070 back then. Was still pretty great card I used till the end of last year when I got a 6800XT.

[@lucasrem]

1080 Ti was as cheap as the 4070 card, only selling 1080 Ti cards after the RTX lanche for cheap.

[@deyandimitrov7287]

@@lucasrem Well I was piss poor back then. 😂

[@Nadox97]

I bought a EVGA 1080 FTW at launch, Then in the later years upgraded to a 1080 Ti hybrid from EVGA. which im still using.

[@9ALiTY]

Still satisfyed with my 1080 Ti half way throgh 2023, I also would have to build a new PC to upgrade so imma probably Waite till at least 5 series maybe even 6 series fr.

[@mups4016]

I almost had a heart attack the other day when windows borked and my card wasn't outputting any video signal.

[@NiliMoto]

Had one in my system since 2018 and i can still play anything i want. It even handled cyberpunk surprisingly well. I remember waiting for it to come out because new generation actually meant something. I had a feeling that me not buying a new one since then had a reason, thanks for showing it so clearly.

[@Z1LT01D]

ive had my 1080ti sonce 2017 and it still does everything i want and is still a solid gpu. shame nothing compares to it now

[@brentpolk8331]

We're living in the golden age of used PC equipment! For my second rendering system I just picked up 2 Titan Xp's and installed 2 Xeon 20 core cpu's into a server grade Chinese Mobo and it get a 12k score with CPUiD!

[@xPandamon]

Matches with my experience, it starts to struggle to achieve 60fps+ at 1440p, although FSR helps. It does need to be replaced eventually though, newer games run noticeably worse than they do on other cards

[@adamtowsley3526]

Eh depends on the game

[@xPandamon]

@@adamtowsley3526 Yeah. Most games can run at 60 fps when you adjust the graphics quality, with FSR many can run at Ultra settings or at 100 fps which I want as my monitor runs at 100 Hertz. But newer games are showing that the architecture just doesn't scale as good with newer games, which sucks since those are often not as well optimized

[@tim3172]

0:23, my 3-bedroom townhouse was built and sold for $26,125 in 1973. I paid, *checks notes*, $468,000 for it in 2021.

[@TheGreenRupee]

Man, I remember getting my 1080 ti right before all the GPU prices crashed during the pandemic. Had to pay off 800$ for this 5 year old card but man, never regretted getting this thing. Plays everything I want to throw at it in current day even if I don't really play current day games.

[@mako2350]

I have an EVGA GTX 1080ti FTW3(stock) and I love it! It does everything I want it to do at good to VG frame rates, now I haven't benched it so...

[@iFireender]

Bought the 1080ti in 2017 with a random 10% birthday discount i got from a score that already had a sale going on it for like 600$, still going strong.

[@DonJ7]

My first pc build straight up buy 1080ti gpu pair up with R7 2700x . And 5 years later until now, i still havent plan to buy new gpu as it still works fine on latest game and even 3D work. Rest of my pc components upgraded and replaced to newer part but this GPU still holds up so damn well.

[@jcpt928]

I've been saying this for years on Reddit. There are very, very few reasons to upgrade from a 1080 Ti - even with the newest cards released - most of those being "I have money burning a hole in my pocket." type reasons.

[@Jack45316]

Still gaming to this day with this legendary card since preordering it from EVGA (rip). Many of hours of six siege, csgo, dark souls, TW warhammer, elden ring and soon diablo 4.

[@HappyDude1]

The reason why i still use my 1080ti is because the new cards are to expensive i know the new top tier has a lot more like dx12 and AI and cudacores so it costs a lot more to make .... when the new 5000 series is here i may have enough money😢 since my 1080ti is watercooled it can last a very long time

[@jaypong5517]

Dont forget most gtx 1080ti cards have wonderful overclocking performance gains between 8 - 12% depending on model. Thats huge.

[@demandred1957]

I bought two when they were brand new. straight out of the box, i put water cooling on them both and put them in SLI mode. STILL rocking this exact setup, and still getting solid 60fps on most games on ultra.

[@srobeck77]

Do the lights in your house occasionally flicker from the high watt usage?

[@demandred1957]

nah.@@srobeck77

[@scotttruehart8024]

I bought my first gaming computer about a year ago off Craigslist. At the time I didn't know how good a system I was getting for $800 Asrock Z390 taichi 9900k Evga ftw3 1080 ti 32 gigs corsair vengeance RAM 750 psu 1.5 tb of storage. I have no plans to upgrade anytime soon since it can run most games at 1080p no problem on the highest settings.

[@BillLambert]

I remember upgrading from SLI 1080 to SLI 1080 TI, which was purely a flex move at the time, and being utterly amazed at the performance uplift. I expected a modest bump, what I got was locked 4K60 ultra godliness, at a time when 4K itself was still mostly mythical. Crazy that it was over six years ago, and yet when I replaced them with a single 3090, it almost felt like a side-grade. That really puts into perspective how much post-pandemic Nvidia sucks.

[@acetechnical6574]

I got an EVGA 1070 in 2016, for 375 brand new. At the time, it was ridiculously better than my previous GPU, but I remember thinking "I hope it will last awhile for that price" . I'm still using it. It still puts up 1080p at 60-120 FPS just fine, with some lowered settings and obv. no RT, even on DLSS loving new stuff like Remnant 2 and Lies of P. lowering settings further, I can get 144 to 165 Hz/FPS pretty consistently as well. Considering that since then, we had the pandemic, mining, scalping, BS hardware, and now the big push into scaling, which I hate, and how I sailed through it all at high to max settings and 60-120 FPS, for 375, I doubt there will ever be as good a price:performance and longevity to be had. If it can swing a couple more years, and it's Aug 2023 right now and showing no signs that it wont, this card will have been not only viable for 10 years, but will have spent at least 6-7 of those years very near the top of the pile for performance, and is still in the top 25% today. I think it may be, objectively, the literal best GPU ever.

[@NextNate03]

I been using 980 Ti for 8 years. Still happy with it. I didn't get 10 series because the performance increase was not worth it. When the 20, 30, and the 40 series dropped, the big price increases was much. Then there's the problem with owning an 8 year old gaming PC.

[@kevinwells9751]

I'm still running a 1080ti and a 10700k and I'm able to run many games at 1440p 144fps as long as it isn't a brand new or high end game. Sure sometimes I have to turn a couple of settings down or settle for 90-100fps, but overall it is still an excellent experience. Maybe someday I'll have to upgrade but for now it's going as strong as ever. It helps that it's the top of the line EVGA FTW3 Hydrocopper (meaning it's factory water blocked) with a custom loop so it never gets above like 60 degrees. I expect it'll last for as long as I want to use it barring some catastrophic water loop failure

[@davidperry4013]

The Pascal architecture is the best era for Nvidia. I have an RX5700 XT currently which has 8 GB of VRAM glad I built my gaming PC pre COVID.

[@krek.44]

I got a used 1080ti for less than $200. Awesome for both gaming and video production. Adobe premiere uses the card for hardware rendering which cut my export times by like 75% compared to rendering on the CPU.

[@NickGuelker]

Never had a 1080ti, but its wild how long it's lived. Makes me hopeful that my 6800xt i paid retail price for when it came out will last a long time. I hope lol

[@PCproffesorx]

I bought a 1080 at launch and upgraded to a 1080ti (and sold my 1080) it is still good to this day. I built a new pc earlier this year and bought a used(but like new) 3090 for that PC. I still have my 1080ti and the accompanying pc that I am using as a secondary PC. Outside of wanting more VRAM for AI workloads I was perfectly happy with its performance still.

[@_shadow_1]

The biggest argument to upgrade the 1080 ti is the power efficiency and the aging driver support if you play primarily 1080p, which I have to say is quite impressive. Looks like the 7800 xt might be the best GPU for people still holding on to their 1080 ti to upgrade to if they are willing to change over to AMD. If you, for some reason, want to keep with Nvida at this point, RTX 4070 might be the best you'll get for your money. Assuming it goes down in price, it might be the GPU choice for anyone who values better efficiency and power scaling.

[@pcracinggames]

it's not just the vram amount, it's the bus width

[@-szega]

I'm still running my watercooled 1080 Ti. Still going strong. Had an AMD 7800 series before that, which was also a pretty good generation, especially for price/perf.

[@ComedicRick]

I'm still running my 1080ti, still a decent performer and the 11gb vram means that my main use case (opencl pyro simulations) crash way less than they would on a faster card with 8gb.

[@VincentAnzalone]

My 1080 non ti still works great on an ultrawide 1440. Warzone is almost maxed out on settings and it plays 165 fps stable, unless the game 'optimizes shaders'

[@williambravo7147]

I consider myself to be blessed beyond belief that I own a GTX 1080 Ti. The last desktop I had (bought in 2002)--contained what was arguably the second-best, long-lasting Nvidia card--the Geforce 4 Ti 4600. Somehow I've had amazing luck in picking desktop GPU's that stood the test of time very well.

[@oofer_]

I still use a 1080ti founders and yeah I completely expected it to handle pretty much all of these. I put that card through Minecraft RT shaders and it trucks through most of them

[@BaamGames]

My 1080Ti I bought the week of release and it was an MSI model. It replaced my 980 at the time and it was such as step up. A few months ago I bought the 4080 as I genuinely needed the extra power, but honestly, the 1080Ti is still a great card to buy 2nd hand for 1440p gaming. I paid £709 for mine, and it was the best component I have ever bought.

[@luqmanhaqim97]

History repeats again with 3060 12GB variant. Most people refused to purchase 40 series.

[@Blobby192]

i just got a 3080 but there is no way im getting rid of my 1080ti i will use it for my spare pc

[@sl06bhytmar]

I remember when this released ~800€ and was very expensive card again for consumers top end... But it turned into a marathon runner and just in time for crypto mining. People who mined have made 4-5x cards worth in a few years and it still games pretty nicely on mixed medium / high settings.

[@sl06bhytmar]

Ah still running Asus 1080 Ti Turbo, I have watercooled it for lulz when I mined with it during nights and when I was at work and it has earned 4x its paid value meaning I could have bought 3 additional units with release price and all of them would have been free.

[@sl06bhytmar]

Also I have used as thumb rule: your mobos max ram you need at least 1/4 of the max amount of ram to be VRAM for longevity. My next card should have 32GB VRAM.

[@sirsweet3022]

I remember when I put my money into my 1080 ti and bought a waterblock with it - I was so sure I was just blowing my money. My EVGA is still being pushed hard these days.

[@manriquedanielmarperez7995]

The GTX 1080Ti....Nvidia STILL bangs his head to every wall it finds..asking themselves...."WHAT THE FAK WE WERE THINKING!!!??".

[@mikeelek9713]

The Raijintek Morpheus II is stunningly good at cooling the 1080 Ti. It dropped my temps by an average 20C. I bought my 1080 Ti as a refurb for about $400. That was nearly four years ago, and I've never had a single problem with it. One of the truly great GPUs.

[@HybOj]

Few years ago, I bought 2nd hand 1080ti to replace another legend - GTX 970. The change in performance and smoothness thanks to the 11gb VRAM vs 3,5gb I used to have - was epic. 1080ti was last behemoth, the most powerfull card which specialized on only one thing - pure rasterized performance. What a beast. Than I bought 2nd hand 3080 and while its a great card, I never had that feeling 1080ti gave me. Because 1080ti is brutal, its like 12valves 6litre engine without a turbo. 3080 is 4cilinder 2litre with 4 turbos. And it feels exactly like that. Having less VRAM than 1080ti..... ....

[@jedpratte]

Pascal was a great generation. Ran a 1070 back then. Maybe I am to snobby now with my 3080 and 1440p 240hz monitor.

[@ehyouman]

my 1080 ti just bit the dust a couple months ago.... rest easy king rest easyyyy

[@jjy3k10]

I was an AMD guy once upon a time. Was looking to upgrade my Radeon 7850 and while the 1080ti had already released I waited to see what AMD's Vega cards would offer. It was a huge let down and the minute those Vega benchmarks hit the internet I found an open box 1080ti and it's served me well every day since.

[@FeTetra]

i got one for 400 bucks with an aftermarket watercooler and its the absolute perfect gpu. i think at the time the gpu seemed overpriced but now people are starting to realize it was worth every dime even on launch

[@shadogaming5905]

my 1080ti still punching above its weight today

[@rickeyuson2731]

Bought a 1080ti back on 2020 for 400 amidst the GPU craze. Still going strong to this day

[@OriginalStachuJones]

I have i7-6700k, 48gb of RAM and 1070 - last AAA game I played on it was Witcher 3. I do not play anymore any AAA game. It works just fine as a rig for programming regular applications, not games. Why should I change? That's my problem - my PC is just enough for anything i do. And I have a feeling lot of people basically go with consoles for gaming these days as they are cheaper

[@neferiusnexus]

have a reference PCB model myself with the same Morpheus II cooler and nice 5-blade quiet, pressure optimised fans ... did the power-limit removal solder mod Kingpin posted instructions for on his old blog... and with liquid metal for thermal paste, it goes above 2GHz... and idles at close to room temperature, going up to 50C in most games

[@ВладиславКап-щ6в]

If you have vrr monitor those frame dips to mid 50 are fine, some new games can be played in qhd with high settings and fsr..legendary gpu

[@chrisdash83]

I still "daily-drive" a GTX 1080 FE that I bought back in .... i forgot when that was. And its fine. Card also works like a charm after near 24/7 use.

[@thomasthonion9163]

Every years i Wonder if i change but she still there since 2017 and work every day 💪💪

[@xlr8r2010]

I'm running an EVGA RTX 3070 Black right now.....but I have held on to my EVGA GTX 1080ti SC2.

[@tupiniquim8156]

Still rocking my evga sc2 hybrid, serving me quite well for my needs. Might hold out for another year or two.

[@TheBanjoShowOfficial]

Hell, I have a regular 1080 and this is still a beast of a card. I honestly have zero reason to “upgrade” off of it.

[@Ripskin16]

I'm still using my 1080 Ti. In my opinion the Pascal system was limited on the 1080 in case the RTX launch was not going to pan out. Easy to boost the clocks, allow more power, beef up the cooler and let Pascal have another cycle with minimal effort to get RTX out the door. If I had a spare I would shunt mod mine, it has so much more to give.

[@黒の契約者黒の契約者]

As a 4090 owner I miss my old friend the 1080ti what a beast it was

[@youtuberdriver]

I have a 4070ti but still interesting to see this piece of art 1080ti that literally was the most powerful GPU not so long time ago

[@priestofsyrinx6681]

Pascal was ridiculous. There is a reason why, up until recently, the 1060 6Gb was the most used GPU on the Steam Charts. Even now, you can find the 1060 and 1050 Ti in the top 10 most used GPUs on the charts. That's impressive for cards pushing 7 years. I still use an EVGA 1080 Ti FTW3. Has performed amazing for every game I play. With the ridiculous prices nowadays along with the reliability problems (Nvidia cables melting, AMD dies essentially cracking due to poor coolers), I am glad I have the 1080 Ti. Nvidia will never release another card like it. Considering the performance/price ratios were are seeing today, I wouldn't be surprised if Nvidia tries and ban any talk of the 1080 Ti on Tech-Tube channels haha.

[@iamspencerx]

What surprises me is the poor performance of this card, I expected it to perform closer to 6800XT, but instead barely edges my 5600XT which consumes less than half the power of a 1080ti

[@demontongue9893]

I remember back in 2015 I got a GTX 980 and paired it with 16GB of Rm and an i7-4770K. My PC all in set me back exactly 1,100 bucks and I was well in the high end gaming category. It was something else I tell ye! nowadays to have that equivalent it would cost you at least 3K

[@SoraTheHappyEmo]

Been running one daily for 6+ years, and until it literally can no longer run new games, I'm keeping it. It handles Baldur's Gate 3 very well at 1080p.

[@Adasrast]

I’m still using my Evga GTX 1080 FTW3 and in 1080p in most of games is more than enough even after all those years 🤯👍🏻

[@Bjoern211]

My setup is Ryzen 7 7800x3d, 64gb DDR5 Ram and was a RTX 3080...was... the 3080 is at repair because of overheating and crashing... so i put my old 1080ti founders edition in and even StarCitizen runs with 40fps on planets and that by using Tobii Track Exe also. The 1080 is still great.

[@rekt4guud134]

1080ti is pretty much the thing that set the bar in terms of performance per dollar, every gpu other than the 3080 at msrp launch that nobody got to buy has had the performance improvement directly correlated with it's extra cost.

[@emmanuelii1598]

The 1080 Ti truly was an anomaly for its time. A beast of its own.

[@srobeck77]

A corporate "mistake" to never be repeated

[@rierebuild8916]

if youre gaming older games of the "pascal era" for an example batllefield 1 which still has a high player count today. you are going to be very happy with this card. I find it hard to enjoy other games the last 2 years. Maybe its just my age or they lack in quality or both of them

[@meyatetana2973]

I still think there was a mix up at the factory because FE 1080ti still performed better then the Titan a card they were trying to say was top of the line, then there was the 1080ti actually performing better then the titan.

[@davidpippin3460]

I have almost the same setup Ryzen 5 5600X, 32GB RAM B550 board with a EVGA 1080Ti. Runs pretty much everything I throw at it. I have a RX 6700 XT inbound and hope to see improvement in some areas.

[@niggawtf123]

My geforce 1080 is still holding up with it and the ram lasting. I doubt i will upgrade for another 10 years MINIMUM 5 but by then i wont play as much so closer to 10. I remember building my pc and then almost selling it to my old best friend for a slap in the face low ball. I kept it thankfully because of the lowball and have used it daily and am happy with its continued above expectations performance. Funny that companies putting out 10/10 products that arent waste and cancer dont exist much anywhere anymore...

[@TheXev]

If nVidia made this card today, they would have found a way to give it only 5GBs of VRAM.

[@korana6308]

ahahaha so true. And even then , they undercut it with VRam on purpose , because they had a free extra slot for 1 more gb on all of their cards, but they didn't cut it hard enough by their mistake lol. They weren't as bold back then of screwing as much their customers and undercutting them with vram as nowadays.

[@CyberneticArgumentCreator]

But their cards all have more VRAM at every tier now...

[@williampaabreeves]

@@CyberneticArgumentCreator difference is, back then 4gb of vram was plenty, but most cards had 6-8gb or more. now games are starting to need 12gb+ and only a few cards from the last couple generations have that, even their newest barely meets that level for the 4070 ti

[@teapouter6109]

They'd also give it an 8-bit memory bus to ensure that it can't run any resolution higher than 144p

[@TheMasterOfSafari]

@@CyberneticArgumentCreator no they don't... The RTX 3060 had 12GBs, the RTX 4060 has been announced to have 8GBs only.. which is shit, 60 tier cards should have 12GBs, 70 and above should have 16GBs at the minimum...

[@howdo7278]

Remembering when the 1080 Ti came out and now seeing it become somewhat of a budget card is extremely surreal.

[@brahtrumpwonbigly7309]

It's irritating because you know they didn't just pull the newer cards and tech out of their ass, they roll this stuff out at just the right rate to turn their top end cards into middle of the pack cards within a couple years. Who wants to spend 700-1500 bucks every two years?

[@korana6308]

Yeah , I agree. the price has literally doubled for the same equivalent level of GPU's which is disgusting.

[@cowboybenbop]

i would say the 5700xt exists which is quite close in performance but about 120/150

[@Splarkszter]

@@brahtrumpwonbigly7309 yeah, that's why i always think of buying cards at least 2 generations old if there isn't better contenders. What i've seen on ebay the last few days is that: RX6600 is around 200$, GTX1080ti is around 200-250$ dollars, RX6700XT is around 200-300$ dollars. Quite hard to decide i would go RX6700XT if it's at 200-250$ on the used market while it's a bit more powerful it has better DX11 and DX12 performance and still has years for that AMD fine wine drivers. RX580 i have seen it at 50 dollars and it seems it's only half the performance of the RX6600

[@younglingslayer2896]

@@Splarkszter Rx 6600 uses fuck all power which was my main drive But I struggled with that exact dilemma before I bought, the 1080ti is quite nostalgic same with the r9 295x2 legendary cards

[@Qaasim830]

Using a 1080ti right now still. Bought it 4 years ago as an upgrade from my 680. Probably the best card I've ever owned. It never let me down, and when the time comes to finally replace it. It will have a spot on my shelf in a display case. I'm happy this card is still getting love 6 years later.

[@jefffrederick258]

Nvidia will never make the same mistake with the 10-series again, that's for sure

[@ST3066K]

Bought mine used as an upgrade from my 1050ti after the 20 series came out. The best purchase ever! Now using a used 3080ti. The king of 1080p gaming minus the rtx I would say.

[@TartAppleJuice]

I have a 1080. (The ROG one which is super similar a 1080ti performance wise). It holds up fine.

[@UltimateGattai]

It's amazing it still goes so hard in 2023, I'm still rolling with mine and looking at today's prices for modern cards is just depressing, but I can keep my 1080ti for another generation or two.

[@arnox4554]

Got my Titan Xp (which is basically just a special edition 1080 Ti FE with slightly more VRAM and performance), and it's gonna stay with me long after I finally retire it from service on my main desktop.

[@lightning9552]

Whoever bought a 1080Ti back in the day has unknowingly made the best financial decision in the last decade.

[@2Shkololo]

After bitcoin of course

[@TarTarkus-un9nb]

I am one of those people :) These days, you need a 4070 to totally exceed the 1080ti's capabilities. Ideally, you'd want a 4070 TS at minimum for double the performance at a notable VRAM upgrade. Nvidia shouldn't have skimped on VRAM with 20 and 30 series. Otherwise, the card would've been obsolete faster.

[@Jim-v9u]

I'd still be happy using my 1070ti if it didn't die on me

[@nanoscapehd6179]

The 1080 generation was the last generation where we saw massive performance improvements for little to no meaningful price hikes

[@randomobserver9488]

3000 gen says hi

[@Dexplaze.]

@@randomobserver9488 3000 gen was overpriced from the skalpers tho

[@TRAMP-oline]

@@randomobserver9488 there's a worm in your brain. it's making you say things you have no reason to say.

[@NeilBooth]

The move from 28nm to 14nm did take many years

[@mythicalrp5642]

​@@randomobserver9488don't get me wrong, the 3000 series was generational with 3070, 3080, and 3090, but they were ruined by insane prices.

[@dex6316]

Perhaps the RT glitches you were seeing in Jedi Survivor was related to RT denoising. One of the biggest issues with real time RT was getting rid of the noise. RT cores and tensor cores can handle this, while Pascal has none.

[@IcebergTech]

Good point, thanks 😊

[@mikem9536]

RT is still noisy.

[@princekells2]

absolutely

[@spvrda]

@@mikem9536 that's why there's denoising

[@AGTS10k]

I ran Quake II RTX on my friend's 1070, and the denoising worked fine. Either that's the denoising problem that is specific to this game (or UE4 in general), or the problem is something else, I think,

[@MaTtRoSiTy]

We kinda had AMD to thank for the 1080Ti since they WAY overhyped their upcoming Vega range so Nvidia panicked and released a way more powerful card than they ever would have... and they will likely never make that mistake again

[@you2be839]

I think it's just happened again tbh, the performance gap between the RTX 4090 vs RX 7900 XTX is quite large, probably more than what Nvidia would have wanted!!

[@williampaabreeves]

@@you2be839 they planned for it this time, which is why the 4090 costs a kidney or two

[@MirelRC]

@@you2be839 it could've been even faster, though. Or maybe they plan a 4090 Ti. BTW in the gap between 7900 XTX (or 4080) fits a possible 4080 Ti.

[@dicknr1]

@@you2be839 No it didnt you dummy. If you know anything which you dont, you would know AMD has not yet released the 7950XT and XTX. They are already named on techpowerup if searched for it manually like always for not yet released cards. And the 7950XTX beats the 4090 by nearly 10% in raster performance. Shows how little you know about things you talk about. If only you werent so handicapped on computer knowledge people might take you serious.

[@dicknr1]

@@williampaabreeves And you are also another commenter with 0 intelligence. Again as named in the other 2 comments, there are a few SKU's of gpu's that will release in future, but have not done so yet. They didnt price it because of monopoly either, since they dont have a monopoly anymore with AMD this close on them. Which is good for customers However Nvidea decided to make their chip on 4nm which is currently so expensive to make that the gpu cost is that high on the 4090, on top of that their memory modules are 5nm. AMD didnt see value in that so their chip is 5nm and the memory on 6nm. Since none of you in the comments have actual knowledge about whatever you bring up this is why people make stupid choices. Because people like this section talk about speculations they base on thin air. The cost for the 4090 is so high due to its being the first chip on 4nm. Its too new, production isnt high enough. And on top of that the netherlands have not yet made enough machines yet for all computer developing stations to be enough production to lower the cost. Nvidea choose a insane costly manifacture process which the netherlands made only 4 machines of. TSMC and Intel and Samsung and Nvidea all wait for ASML which creates ALL high density computer equipment so you can even use a computer. Without the netherlands developing that you would be in stone ages. Nothing in computer development goes forward unless the netherlands improves its processes. Basically you all depend on the Netherlands, And we have not made yet enough 4nm machines for you all to develop these things in bulk for less. So the real reason is Nvidea choose a new machine for wavers that is so costly and so few exist that the production price shot out of logic. AMD however decided to stay on 5nm for chip and 6nm for memory. If this comment section had a combined IQ of 100 then you should have been able to figure this info out yourself. So it shows me you are all kids who know nothing about how this world works or how economics or production works, none of you cares to learn and you all speak annecdotal. Now i hope this cleared things up for you all to even comprehend what is going on. Nevertheless, AMD and nvidea have both not released their flagship. 7950 XT and XTX and 4090ti both are still under development. And prices of the AMD will be far superior because of this. Performance could be just below it, but then again the 4090ti will cost 1.5 to 2 times the cost of a 7950XTX so given that the XTX of the 50 series already shows superior raster performance than the 4090, i wonder how much value the nvidea will be on that processing technique. Probably useless for its price performance.