AAA Gaming (on integrated graphics) | feat. Geekom A8 & Ryzen 9 8945HS

[@nep-nep6575]

Died: 2018 Born: 2024 Welcome back Steam Machine

[@filip9587]

My blood boils every time I see Hi-Fi Rush and remember that Microsoft shut down the studio and we will most likely never see a sequel to this masterpiece ever again.

[@SeeJayPlayGames]

F Microsoft lately. I've jumped ship after 30 years of Windows and am now proudly running Linux. Sure, there's still some things I can't do, but I'd rather not give them the time of day anymore. They can rot with their BS and their AI crap. Satya Nadella can sit and spin.

[@filip9587]

@@SeeJayPlayGames Unfortunately, it doesn't really matter what we do, because they'll still get their money. Azure, Windows, 365, AI, Xbox, they own a piece of software in all sectors. You may get rid of them from your home, but you may still use them at work.

[@SeeJayPlayGames]

@@filip9587 and I get that. I'm only one person, and just doing what I can to give Microsoft the finger. I know it won't mean much. But if millions do this, maybe it will make a dent.

[@filip9587]

@@SeeJayPlayGames Well they are slowly declining in the console market and have continued to do so since early last gen. Maybe this is the biggest finger we can give them, by not buying Game Pass, Xbox consoles and any of their games until significantly reduced.

[@DanielFerreira-ez8qd]

@@filip9587 Up until you realize that trying to give microsoft "the finger" like that will cause harm to thousands of individuals no more guilty of microsoft's misdeeds than you. Not to say Microsoft doesn't deserve to get knocked down a few pegs, but trying to do so with your wallet will do more damage to innocent working people than it will ever do to where it matters. It's easier to just become a proactive member of society and push legislators to go after these companies.

[@Djuncle]

Its crazy how far its come in just a few years.

[@micksterminator3]

Going on metacritic is nice to figure out what years you should focus on for a budget build. I had a 2nd gen i5 dell Inspiron with hd3000 graphics. 2005 and earlier was great!

[@Snoopmasta]

Hm, I'm not into the mini PCs, but you do you. 👏🏻

[@ToadToast]

it would be nice if you tested a mix of optimized settings on most games instead of just high + FSR, it often increases performance by a lot, without sacrificing visuals much. Though it does take a bit of tinkering to find that sweet spot.

[@joshsadowski8869]

Great job on finding out about overheating RAM! It's gonna change reviews

[@AlexandruJalea]

R7 5700x with 3200 16gb ram, b550 for 60 quid, 6600xt, best bang for buck? Vid next for the discerning icicle?

[@RotcodFox]

I would've liked to see Ratchet & Clank: Rift Apart

[@BonusCrook]

Doom 2016 is an incredible looking and running game 8 years on

[@ZERARCHIVE2023]

We need more HiFi-Rush type of games now.

[@f0x4nn3]

Maybe difference in memory modules that can cause the performance difference?

[@mikeymaiku]

Its fun to see these chips run fill tilt. The handhelds are always tdp limited so there are always drawbacks ( gpd win 4 owner)

[@type45tomcat21]

I just saw the news report on someone secretly tried AMD’s new iGPU on laptop, then I saw your video. It came just in time

[@sendashano]

Ah yes i remember my a8 7600, it has same speed as r7 250x which is back in the days i could plays gta 5 720p 40fps low med 🤣.. could you throw back those ogs apu? How far that technologies go?

[@djthashock]

What is that song playing in the background?

[@12100F]

13:27 is that graphs mislabeled?

[@nyxer4]

Hmm, power consumption imo is irrelevant to how eco friendly it is. If they created is and it was carbon neautral, all green energy recycled stuff and what not to me would indicate its green. A long with fair trade source and less trips via shipping boats. If its consuming a lot of power and Im using hydro generated electric then it is green lol. Good review tho, keep up good work.

[@JamesSmith-sw3nk]

This is nice.. but it's also the same price as a rtx 4070 Ti Super.

[@RobloxianX]

Rumors that the Radeon 890M is going to beat the RTX 2050. iGPUs have now got on the level of RTX.

[@XiaOmegaX]

They still need the memory bandwidth to compete and they're a long way off. the strix halo 256 bit bus will help a lot.

[@iamperplexed4695]

2050 are you joking? That's weak AF, why would you want that?

[@RobloxianX]

@@iamperplexed4695 I never said I wanted that. I'm just saying that iGPUs happen to be the speed of what Nvidia calls "RTX". So it goes both ways. 1. iGPUs are gaming capable, 2. Nvidia is really greedy calling what's basically a 1650 Ti a 2050.

[@kingeling]

The 2050 is no better than the 1650 performance-wise, pretty sure it won't be downgrade

[@kingeling]

@@RobloxianX The 2050 is Ampere, so not "basically" a 1650Ti. Both are mobile GPUs, btw.

[@Da-money_guy]

No Minecraft Java Rtx shaders benchmark you disappoint me

[@thegeekno72]

Very cool video and review, new sub acquired

[@filipshinigami7263]

So its not worth upgrade anyway if they dont fix the drivers and finetune it huh?

[@jrenkas]

Please, more minipcs

[@aF-ml2zl]

strix point with ddr5, mmm 😋

[@Ryhillchibulls]

I got an ad 90 seconds in 😮

[@wertywerrtyson5529]

The 780M is getting old and it was never that much faster than 680M. I hope we will got something more interesting soon.

[@CleroPata]

Please! Make a video about the GTX 750 ti 🥺

[@IcebergTech]

My fellow Midlander ProYamYamPC just made a 750Ti video: kzbin.info/www/bejne/qmKnoqquoM6bhs0si=unorAyzurrVQjd47

[@CleroPata]

@@IcebergTech But I want to see you reviewing it 😢

[@AlexandraYume]

I wonder if there is a way to remove the bottom of the A8 and stick a 120mm fan or what size fits there, small rubber feet for a gap to draw air from scuffed? yes effective? probably 🤷‍♀

[@pheapkim978]

one day that will be a 3090

[@jovieasyrof2017]

wawwww

[@sklynexd]

BG3 is overrated and boring turn based game lmao, regular RPGs are much more fun

[@undertone2472]

We don't care about AO FYI 😂

[@akr4s1a]

"I can accept as a grown man who doesn't treat review scores as personal attacks" pure gold

[@reeveho1384]

Can't wait for the strix point Apus

[@springbonnie6407]

Strix point halo will be so good

[@leighjenkins5601]

Imagine the next gen of this chip, it will be running games 1080p high, that would eliminate big bulky PC's for most people.

[@excalibur8800]

bro has fetish for mini pcs

[@sv1595]

who doesn't

[@TheAmazingCowpig]

Well, they are pretty neat.

[@NP_Com]

He likes small things

[@XiaOmegaX]

Not as bad as ETA Prime

[@misael960]

@@XiaOmegaX ETA lives through the minis, they are his life force

[@armpistolguy435]

I caught a video on time

[@jeremyleemartens801]

Damn, what happened? Who is forcing you to pump out so many mini pc "reviews"

[@deleted-rv6hq]

No one, I guess he was just compelled to review them after being sent numerous ones by various companies trying to shed some light on their products. But I guess I'm not Iceberg tech himself at the end of the day 😂

[@n0.nam358]

Hi! Really enjoy your videos, waiting for RTX 2080ti review with RT.

[@IcebergTech]

Coming soon, hopefully 🤞

[@camaraman645]

you got balls to speak about cons of the mini pc. most people would have just ignore and praise it

[@XbladedGG]

Especially a certain prime

[@IcebergTech]

When I first talk to brands like Geekom, Minisforum, GMKTec etc., they're usually pretty clear that they're looking for an honest review, not a puff piece. I haven't had anyone yell at me for saying negative things (yet), and I've even had a couple of reps thank me and apologise for the problems I've found in their products. Almost all of the brands who have sent me PCs in the past have followed up, even after a less-than-positive review. After seeing what the big brands in tech do to review outlets like HUB and GN, I can understand why viewers would be skeptical, but so far my relationship with the mini PC brands has been pretty much completely chill.

[@wikwayer]

​@@XbladedGGamazon prime ? 👀

[@camaraman645]

@@IcebergTech i wasnt yelling

[@IcebergTech]

@@camaraman645 by "anyone", I mean brands. None of the brands I've dealt with have ever yelled at me for saying negative things in my reviews.

[@eilegz]

main issue its that it run worse than a console, but also cost a way lot more. until the price go down

[@xanderkirkland3420]

I like to assume that the thumbnail is just screaming "AAA"

[@MrSmitheroons]

About the low VRAM allocation making some games load tiny textures... I bet the game code is doing some simplistic check, either reading a max value of VRAM it can allocate, or trying to allocate at least x number of GB and if that fails, loading the tiniest textures they can. Or plugging in that small 300MB number as x into some formula to get the y maximum texture quality it thinks it can load. Something like that. It's weird to think of such simple and obscure code things changing graphical quality, but I've heard a lot of game bug post-mortems that turned out to be things like that. Or open-sourced/decompiled/reverse-engineered games with such quirks, bugs and odd behavior revealed and explained by preservationists and modders. Bit of tangent, but thanks for the video!

[@skunksecond]

but can it play skull and bones, the first quadruple A game?

[@likemetoo2]

Just too expensive. Can get an rtx 4050 laptops for under £700

[@FluffyPuppyKasey]

Doom 2016 is crazy well optimized. My Steam Deck ran the game at a nearly locked 60FPS at ultra

[@Crustenscharbap]

1650 Super and RTX 3050 got about 50% more fps and a PC with RTX 3050 needs only 30W more electricity as this mini PC. And a normal PC much more silent as a mini PC. If the GPU becomes too slow you can upgrade it.

[@Flyon86]

Yeah, mini pc's niche I think is for people who really need to save space or for businesses that just want to mount them to the back of a monitor for a workstation or something. If you want to game at all you're a lot better off just making a small form factor traditional desktop with a low power consumption gpu if you're really energy conscious.

[@cebul9267]

Pleaseeee more of other stuff

[@czaransherin3545]

One interesting thing about the performances in-game would be trying to increase the allocated VRAM via the BIOS of the machine in order to see if having 4GB or 6GB can truly be a good thing for those chips while playing games or not

[@GrooveSpaceArk]

Where are the abnormally large pc reviews?

[@XiaOmegaX]

Unless the NPU can do cool shit like stable diffusion and chatGPT locally it's useless. Seems like it can blur backgrounds for a few less watts at best?

[@sv1595]

it is illegal to be this early

[@mtaufiqn5040]

Yes it is

[@NP_Com]

Im arresting you

[@toseltreps1101]

NO MORE MINI PCs KTHXBYE

[@GEEKOMPC]

Thank you for reviewing our product. Your feedback on GEEKOM products is greatly appreciated!

[@sudd3660]

it is a fake product, new chip with worse performance that a old gen. scams are not legal!

[@deleted-rv6hq]

Appreciate the mini pc reviews. Would love to see a comparison between those office mini pcs with a full sized processor to those with soldered one. It would be interesting to see the difference in performance and with varying power consumptions

[@luheartswarm4573]

I have a full gaming desktop and probably would have no need for a mini pc in the time being, but damn do I find them neat!, and seeing them get better with time is awesome too!

[@kecske_gaming]

I mean if you want now you can get an xbox one / ps4 experience on mini pcs which is pretty good i mean

[@_RedsTech_]

You should try some of these newer APUs with the Lossless Scaling app.

[@shadowlemon69]

Still waiting for Strix Halo, what I call the X3D of iGPUs lol

[@wasabichannel4679]

On productivity benchmark blender On previous review gmktec r7 8845hs and acemagic ultra 7 155h And I think also on gmktec ultra 5 125 review it self Ultra 5 125 on blender all got 0:07:33 result, why suddenly on this video ultra 5 125 got boost performance and suddenly r7 8845hs downgrade to exactly 0:07:33?

[@Adrienne_Quelle]

I'm definitely aware free time is a hard-to-get currency these days but if you do get some, Spidey Remastered is fantastic on almost every front- and even on its down points found ways to surprise me. I did a 100% playthrough when I burned out on a raid tier and took a break from FF14, and that got me to pick up Miles Morales as soon as I could after- and both those games are easy 10/10s in my book, even with their flaws. Final Fantasy XIV has a new canned benchmark (owing to a new expansion and a significant graphical upgrade) that could be good for lower spec GPU stuff, or even mini PCs like this. Yes, it's on consoles with KBM support, but the likelihood of PS4 support going away with the next expansion feels high, so a PC would be the better way to do it. Just a suggestion, though you've no doubt got plenty of benchmark options on your hands.

[@TheeAbstractHero]

The real crime is not being able to get these chips in a compact ultrabook WITHOUT a dedicated GPU. I've been trying to find something like a 7735HS ultrabook without a dedicated gpu, no such luck. WHY? If you dont want the DGPU youre stuck with a lower spec 4/6 core CPU with an inferior GPU.

[@maleiactaest]

Well, I believe the miniPC with a powerful iGPU should have support for a faster RAM. As I recall from recent Ryzen G series reviews, they do benefit a lot from a bit faster RAM clocks.

[@AlexandruJalea]

Hey Iceberg, you keep doing you "thang" and we keep watching... Just keep the innuendos, jokes, puns and restrained banter along with the "oh my god he didnt say what i think he said, did he?" About the downside of the tested products. I will keep procrastinating for you.

[@Mageoftheyear]

Honestly, this close to Strix Point (16 CU version) I'm just not interested in anything else. I really hope one of these mini-PC makers sends you one at launch. And I'd love to see older and current benchmarks for that.

[@fletchy88]

No, well hang on... It IS a bit insufferable... Anyone who knows... Knows

[@EhEhEhEINSTEIN]

I'd still like to see the difference in performance if they made one of these little boxes just large enough to fit adequate cooling to be able to run the chip at full tilt. Like if it was 2x the size it is now, but could run to its full potential and stay there indefinitely, would people complain about it being too large?

[@zocher1969]

i think the scores in the benchmarks dont make a lot of sense because the APU is Thermalthrottleing or the iGPU is powercapped. In no other test with these factors controlled have i seen worse performance then last gen.

[@projectilevomit1387]

Can we talk about a graphics card instead?

[@Chill_Mode_JD]

I’m not sure what’s more entertaining, Icebergs videos or the comment section crying about how much they hate mini pc reviews 😂

[@rzkrdn8650]

Wake me up when strix halo dropped

[@vanceg4901]

Been playing on a Ryzen 5 5500U Lonovo IdeaPad 3 laptop the past two years, not too bad.

[@googlesama]

I like cpu have igpu strong in case your main gpu breaks down and you don't have money to buy a new one or repair it

[@tzuyulikestoaim]

I’d rather have you review a 8800gt than another mini pc

[@lewy651]

you covered the x79 and x99, maybe it's time to test out the x299?

[@LiteralBeans]

Soon pcs might actually weigh less than a small planet

[@skemmy215]

800 pounds is crazy

[@smryhanulislam4127]

But can it run crysis?

[@Rayu25Demon]

for the overheating ram issue just buy gmktec k6 or k8 they have a fan for the ram and SSD room.

[@IcebergTech]

Beelink did on the SER7, too.

[@Rayu25Demon]

@@IcebergTech its nice to see more better options

[@Rayu25Demon]

@IcebergTech I've checked that beelink mini. It's overpriced. it's 300$ more than the gmktec with the same hardware.

[@andrewmutavi590]

If the igpu in a thermal restricted tiny box can perform like that,how would the 8700g overclocked on both the CPU n igpu side of things + faster ram, say 32gb, 7200MTs speeds,how would that handle triple A titles from 2020 to date?

[@IcebergTech]

The 8700G is on my shopping list, but I don't want to make any promises about a review date just yet.

[@robdon1111]

Please, no more minipcs

[@JoshA_1]

Speak for yourself

[@256odeon]

cope

[@MateoThePro]

Literally, this is too much bro. We want to see desktop GPUs and CPUs, not MiniPCs

[@hacoberthejacober3345]

Yes

[@IlMemetor72]

Cmon it's not like that's ALL he does

[@justafella1]

Hey iceberg i love your videos!! I have a question: should i get a ryzen 5 3600 with rx6600 or 4650g with rx 6600xt? I game at 1080 thanks you ❤

[@Flyon86]

I'd probably just go with a ryzen 3600 and the rx 6600. You don't need a cpu with integrated graphics if you have an actual gpu. I think the ryzens with integrated graphics also don't support pcie 4.0. Ryzen 3600 and 6600 should be a great 1080p budget build for you.

[@suchyraz]

😀

[@a1m598]

more sponsored chinese garbage. ugh

[@camaraman645]

how? both version seems okay

[@tdm3bros]

reminder: the Rog Ally has a slightly less powerful last gen processor, meaning it'll be around 5-10% slower than this

[@JudeTheYoutubePoopersubscribe]

It also runs at a maximum of 30w. I suspect this mini PC is doing 50-60w. So

[@LindonSlaght]

isn't the iGPU like way less powerful tho?

[@Flyon86]

I've read that the rog ally's gpu is roughly equivalent to a gtx 1650, so you'd think it'd be a bit better than an Integrated chip at least. Even if integrated gpus have come a long ways recently.

[@Star-fr4jz]

That additional metacritic score actually helps a lot. Thank you.

[@TrusteftTech]

What if you use your own RAM sticks with their own factory cooling solution? (pads or whatever). The system and performance is of course good, runs circles around my i7-4710HQ. Thanks for the review.

[@richardmcgowan1651]

I dont know if it would help but most of these mini PC have room to stick a heat sink onto the RAM. Some of them have it as standard with they come with DDR5 RAM.

[@dadgamer6717]

lol in spider man there is some combat and special effects later on but i've only played the first level !! too many games here too. keep playing the same ones!

[@ABaumstumpf]

Could you also do a test/comparison of Kabylake-G ? That was a great CPU and i wish i got some privately as well.

[@sativagirl1885]

What Corporate America needs is a mini pc with just enough #AI *to replace middle management.*

[@lukaLondaridze]

Is there a mini pc out there than can reach 200fps low settings on cs2? Max budget 750 usd

[@IcebergTech]

Maybe one of the models with RX6600M or 7600M discrete graphics. Minisforum makes the HX99G and HX100G, Geekom announced one in January but I think it’s been delayed, and I may be forgetting some others

[@lukaLondaridze]

@@IcebergTech Thanks! Will check them out

[@dacymark1688]

I’m officially addicted to this channel ✅

[@pepefromthecerro7357]

Please, more minipcs.

[@timjim2145]

Mini pc's are the future

[@Elomentoplayz]

Stop doing so many Mini Pcs!

[@seventhblessing.7371]

I wanna see more mini pc's

[@darshandigbijaydash2520]

For every like I add 1$ to my new build

[@obnot]

Excellent content as usual, apart from the creator's personal view on AI at the end of the video which should be ignored for the sake of my infinite investing profits, of course.