Idaho Backcountry Discovery Route Documentary Film (IDBDR)

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RideBDR

2 жыл бұрын

Get full route details and free GPS tracks at www.ridebdr.com/IDBDR
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About The Route and Film:
If you’ve ever wanted to ride endless twisty mountain roads, the Idaho BDR will throw corners at you for days on end. It’s a true off-the-grid ride that is long enough, at 1,250 miles, that you might just use up an entire rear knobby tire.
About Backcountry Discovery Routes:
Backcountry Discovery Routes® (BDR®) is a non-profit organization that creates off-highway routes for dual-sport and adventure motorcycle travel. We have introduced a new route with free GPS tracks for the community every year since 2010.
Routes can be downloaded from our website at www.ridebdr.com
Our work includes rider education, safety campaigns and promoting responsible travel for motorcyclists traveling in the backcountry.
Our volunteer-powered organization works with agencies and land managers to keep trails and remote roads open for motorcycling.
Each route generates new tourism that delivers sustainable economic relief to less-advantaged rural communities. This creates local stakeholders who will help fight to keep access for dual-sport and adventure motorcycles in these incredible backcountry areas.
To become a BDR Supporter: ridebdr.com/become-a-supporter/

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@clintcord5839
@clintcord5839 3 күн бұрын
Thank you so much for taking me/us along this AWESOME ride! Living the dream here in North Idaho!
@gmariet1391
@gmariet1391 27 күн бұрын
Beautiful adventure thanks for recording this ! 😎♥️🤍💙
@othoapproto9603
@othoapproto9603 Жыл бұрын
I learned as a young backpacker in the seventies that a timetable is the most dangerous goal on a trip. I never understand why people are in such a hurry to get some ware. The wonderful thing about camping is you can make camp at anytime.
@captainamerica9353
@captainamerica9353 Жыл бұрын
Othoap Proto , that would be "somewhere" , and some people have jobs and families to get back to.
@JeepCherokeeful
@JeepCherokeeful Жыл бұрын
@@captainamerica9353 and some people ARE just in a rush. I avoided this by MOVING to Alaska;)
@showmytime9177
@showmytime9177 Ай бұрын
that works if you are either a bilionare or a bum, rest of of us have work to attend to and don't have an indefinite amount of time for shitfuckery. I usually allow 7 hours per day for riding, adjusting the time according to what type of roads I will be riding on, highways only I did 13h straight. The key is to know your limits and allow buffer time for unexpected stops, also leave early in the morning and don't stop every 5miles for 1h each stop.
@judebarber8325
@judebarber8325 3 ай бұрын
These BDR videos are just the best!
@derpeter110
@derpeter110 Жыл бұрын
As a german I was laughing when you drive into Burgdorf. A german name for such a unique little town. The whole Idaho bdr looks awesome. Thanks for taking us with you.
@mikegunn3152
@mikegunn3152 Жыл бұрын
As a Idahoan living in South East of the state. We definitely have a piece of heaven here. I am familiar with most of the areas in this film. I live barely in country outside Pocatello. I wouldn't change it for anything.
@SidOnTheMOVE
@SidOnTheMOVE 21 күн бұрын
That trip is a dream of every biker.
@letitrest4662
@letitrest4662 Жыл бұрын
The best ADV / BDR documentary I've seen guys. Really great footage, and historical flavor. It was obvious and entertaining that you fellas are friends and used to traveling with one another. Kudos to the history professor also. It's my believe that if everyone could have more of an appreciation for the "times gone by" and the people who left a mark, that our country's people might have more of a feeling of patriotism for the U.S. This is why I identify with your documentary. I'm retired and own and travel on my motorcycle when I can. I get a sense of what the days of the wild west must have been like, the desperation they felt, the uncertainty, but also what they must have felt in their gut, for the virgin country they were settling in. Your footage allows one to be taken back, on some level. Thanks guys....
@appalachian_advmoto
@appalachian_advmoto Жыл бұрын
It is awesome all these films are going to be free on KZbin!!
@dirtcopdualsport
@dirtcopdualsport Жыл бұрын
Agreed!
@duanneblouin7148
@duanneblouin7148 22 күн бұрын
Love you videos but I am a heavy Equipment operator and Road Closed is for everyone! It's for everybody's safety and when people ignore it, it slow down us doing are jobs. Please don't ignore road closed signs. Keep up the great work.
@charlieswearingen500
@charlieswearingen500 Жыл бұрын
@25:15 is Randy Priest playing the banjo. Sadly he has just gone to his glory, so RIP old friend, as you will be missed.
@alanmcclure9546
@alanmcclure9546 2 ай бұрын
The One and Only.... I miss him so much also.... what a wonderful human...
@theflyfishingnomad9641
@theflyfishingnomad9641 Жыл бұрын
The river below Anderson Ranch Dam is awesome fly fishing and I can be found there often.
@wvdad74
@wvdad74 Жыл бұрын
For guys who advocate about riding "right" i sure see lots of alot of left hand riding...regardless i love the work u guys are doing..keep it up
@44Custom
@44Custom Жыл бұрын
I am from NY but have been to Idaho many times over the years in the military and just traveling through. I have been riding for over 40 years and just started to do the BDR's. This is next on my list. I have never seen Idaho in this way and it is beautiful! You guys have made this a must do ride. I will complete it solo and that seems doable by the way you have shown here.
@chrislovell7448
@chrislovell7448 Жыл бұрын
Great video. It's a shame that you experts seem to get hurt so often (on day 1). Something to consider....SLOW DOWN! Speed is not your friend on BDR's.
@lucymason4142
@lucymason4142 Жыл бұрын
Amazing film, I had no idea what Idaho was like, an incredible journey. I’m watching from England, nursing a new knee. Keep making these films, they are so entertaining and educational. A great bunch of guys too. Thank you..
@satchell78
@satchell78 Жыл бұрын
We always talk about how horrible Idaho is because we don't want too many folks knowing how beautiful it really is. Remember to keep Idaho's beauty a secret, don't tell Canada.
@michiganmoto7687
@michiganmoto7687 Жыл бұрын
Wishing you a speedy and successful recovery. As someone who has had many knee injuries over my lifetime I sympathize with the recovery.
@johnfry4627
@johnfry4627 3 ай бұрын
Deed, Idaho is the tick fever state
@davidleadford6511
@davidleadford6511 Жыл бұрын
I love exploring my backyard. You never know what you'll find around the next bend, or over the next hill. Whatever you discover, it's going to be good. I have often told people that to really experience Idaho, you have to get out of the city, off the pavement, and onto the dirt.
@paulocarreiro5855
@paulocarreiro5855 Жыл бұрын
Once again, thank you very much for making this available.
@hg7240
@hg7240 Жыл бұрын
What a great resource. I watched the whole video with my Idaho Benchmark road atlas taking notes. Thank you for the great video and all the effort into sharing it with us. cheers
@iiigraghu
@iiigraghu 2 ай бұрын
Excellent Presentation 💐 Hearty Greetings from Hyderabad, India 🇮🇳
@Farmer_1776
@Farmer_1776 5 ай бұрын
I wish I could keep hitting the “like button” and adding to this! Looking forward to making this trip in the future
@pmurphy12667
@pmurphy12667 Жыл бұрын
we plan to do this BDR wit hour group of Expedition trailer owners..so far I would say this is my favorite BDR video. Well done!
@InTheDirtAgain
@InTheDirtAgain Жыл бұрын
I was going to see if anyone was considering this with overlanding rigs. I'd love try it with my boys on our bikes, but only one is plated and my youngest doesn't have a MC endorsement on his license. Thought my 88 Samurai w/small trailer would make a good chase truck with all the food/fuel/tents/etc.
@AT2021Rocker
@AT2021Rocker Жыл бұрын
Doing this north to south in late Aug early Sept. variety of bikes, GSA’s, AT’s and T7’s. Not being overconfident is key!
@devine_adventure
@devine_adventure Жыл бұрын
I'll also be going south from home in north idaho in September and going to link other bdrs on my way to the pan am
@Chad-wb7du
@Chad-wb7du Жыл бұрын
I’m doing the same trip in the same time. Anyway I can join the group?
@michiganmoto7687
@michiganmoto7687 Жыл бұрын
I have wanted to move to Idaho for a long time but my wife was unsure that she would like it there. We watched this documentary together and she was inspired with the beautiful landscapes. Now I just have to wait for my daughter to finish school and my wife to finish her last two years of her degree. But I will definitely be making the BDR trip before then. ✌️
@Ravager669
@Ravager669 Жыл бұрын
love seeing this area I fought many of the fire there and seeing the forest as its recovering is awesome.
@dillonmech7206
@dillonmech7206 Жыл бұрын
That was a sick journey bro, no explanation of what a Jarbidge is, no explanation of the shovel brigade, crashes everywhere, awesome!
@Devastator123
@Devastator123 11 ай бұрын
Totally sick bro
@martinlegrice1414
@martinlegrice1414 Жыл бұрын
Thoroughly enjoyable! Thanks for taking us along!
@michaelbesneatte8666
@michaelbesneatte8666 Жыл бұрын
Thank You, I enjoyed the Trip.
@269sjb
@269sjb Жыл бұрын
Excellent video. Great introduction to the Idaho BDR.
@loganurquhart11
@loganurquhart11 Жыл бұрын
Omg, what a great doc! This is on my 2 year bucket list for sure.
@odyshopody9387
@odyshopody9387 Жыл бұрын
I live in Reno so their starting point isn't to far from where I am. Would love to do this trip one day after watching this, great job guys!
@Devastator123
@Devastator123 11 ай бұрын
I also live in Reno! 👍
@smeagle17
@smeagle17 Жыл бұрын
Greetings from Madrid! Heck of a trek you gents embarked on!
@toddshives5549
@toddshives5549 Жыл бұрын
Great job and keep up the good work. Inspiration for all us dirt bike riders out there to keep plotting paths and enjoying this beautiful country.
@viajarMOTO
@viajarMOTO 5 ай бұрын
Great videos guys! Kudos to all those who dedicated so much work to share this wonderful BDR. We’re looking forward to riding it ourselves this summer.
@oligorman999
@oligorman999 Жыл бұрын
I like your channel is the best in the world 🌎🌎
@cwarren4396
@cwarren4396 Жыл бұрын
Outstanding film & ride.
@bak2drt240
@bak2drt240 Жыл бұрын
5 of my friends an I did the IDBDR back in 2017. wonderful ride. Lots of memories. we still talk about it today and share photos from our personal archives when we run across them.
@breaannawilliams820
@breaannawilliams820 5 ай бұрын
amazing video guys! loved every minute. you have explored more of my home state than I have and I think that needs to change.
@rpc2112
@rpc2112 Ай бұрын
I think I just saw Bill and his crew yesterday at The Griddle in Eagle having breakfast. 5 ADV bikes in the lot.
@russelljackman1413
@russelljackman1413 Жыл бұрын
Well done, gentlemen! What an excellent adventure! Happy Trails!
@MyATVlife
@MyATVlife Жыл бұрын
Amazing ! Great job on the video and congratulations on finishing the Idaho BDR 👍
@flaviusbarker9388
@flaviusbarker9388 Жыл бұрын
Awesome documentary!! Love how you all included the history and maps of the route. Thank you for giving us a tour of the small towns along the way. Just subscribed and going to watch all of your videos. Keep them coming!
@rth53
@rth53 Жыл бұрын
Thank You All! I feel like I have just found something I need to do. It would be so easy to forget to film. Thanks again, great job documenting
@woongtv-naturehealing273
@woongtv-naturehealing273 Жыл бұрын
Hi, my friend Wow! It's a video that gives me so much fun and admiration Have a lucky day 👍👍👍
@jerrycollison3929
@jerrycollison3929 Жыл бұрын
Very very well done, Sterling!!! I’m sold on the Idaho BDR, bro! Awesome!!! Thank you!
@RinconPilot
@RinconPilot Жыл бұрын
Thank you so much, you guys are an amazing resource for the community
@phillpearson7531
@phillpearson7531 Жыл бұрын
Incredible, that is all I can say. Thanks
@leonsmitherman5688
@leonsmitherman5688 Жыл бұрын
What a wonderful adventure! Thank you for sharing this experience!!
@stephenchampion2439
@stephenchampion2439 Жыл бұрын
This really captures the true essence of adventure riding. Great mates, great route, great scenery. 10/10 just brilliant 👏 👌 👍
@dirtcopdualsport
@dirtcopdualsport Жыл бұрын
Some day I’m going to do this on my tw200 running on Ranier and prayers.
@dmelson7502
@dmelson7502 Жыл бұрын
Would you carry jets with you for the altitude changes or does the bike just deal with it? Curious minds on the East Coast would like to know.
@dirtcopdualsport
@dirtcopdualsport Жыл бұрын
@@dmelson7502 I’ve been up around 6000 feet with stock jets and they ran fine. Im. Not super far into the planning stage yet. The ibdr goes right through where I live though.
@BrookStockton
@BrookStockton Жыл бұрын
I read a post recently where a guy got to 9000 feet and then couldn’t get the tw200 restarted. He said he had to coast down to below 8000 to get going again
@dirtcopdualsport
@dirtcopdualsport Жыл бұрын
@@BrookStockton the general consensus is you need to re-jet the carb for high altitude on a tdubs.
@coastalhillbilly3419
@coastalhillbilly3419 4 ай бұрын
So cool guys!
@spearfishJuneau
@spearfishJuneau 5 ай бұрын
Bunch of arm chair moto riders in the comment section i see. Great video guys, thanks for bringing it through Avery, one of the coolest areas in Idaho. I was up there for a few weeks fighting some wildfires, highly recommended taking an extra 2 or 3 days to explore around that area!
@markmullen1852
@markmullen1852 Жыл бұрын
What an AWESOME trip!!!
@AKAOmnivore
@AKAOmnivore Жыл бұрын
Very nice production. The roads looked surprisingly benign. Typically I would think the big adventure tourers would have been way to heavy for a BDR, but it worked out great for you guys. I enjoyed watching it. Thank you.
@joeybobbie1
@joeybobbie1 Жыл бұрын
That looks like a Great Route. Not so Technical that you don’t enjoy it. Beautiful State. Great Ride Guys and Thank You for all the hard work Videoing the Trip. It was a Long Haul but worth it. I think doing it in 12 Days would be better. You would have more Time to Explore everything. Great Video, I really enjoyed it.👍😁❤️
@andreradnoti9859
@andreradnoti9859 Жыл бұрын
I'm just getting into the sport on a KTM 890 Adventure R. Good to see where problems happen and getting hurt is one area I try to avoid. As well as equipment damage.
@archivecontentsrestoration387
@archivecontentsrestoration387 5 ай бұрын
Amazing content. I am looking forward to a trip such as this. It would be interesting content to show all the prep, gear lists, and maintenance/repairs the crew undertook.
@davidgore3870
@davidgore3870 Жыл бұрын
Knew Wallace looked familiar...then I figured out it was the location shoot for the movie Dante's Peak. Some of the action scenes were shot on the main drags looking down at I-90 from the same vantage point that is shown in this video! Great scenery overall. I'm hoping to do the Idaho BDR this coming summer. Got to make my way out there from SW Missouri.
@shakeyourleg4652
@shakeyourleg4652 Жыл бұрын
Thank you Sterling , I really enjoyed your film ;)
@jayshaw63
@jayshaw63 Жыл бұрын
We camped at the White House Pond NFS campground last summer. It is on US 12 west of Lolo. Lewis & Clark stopped there to fish on their way west.
@camsrigley7369
@camsrigley7369 8 ай бұрын
Fabulous documentary!
@WillieJohnRidesAgain
@WillieJohnRidesAgain Жыл бұрын
Great show!
@Jimmzzy1
@Jimmzzy1 Жыл бұрын
This would be an awesome experience. Really enjoyed watching. Just a heads up though, the Grand Dad Bridge crossing was over Dworshak Reservoir which is fed by the north fork of the Clearwater River.
@markwillbanks6409
@markwillbanks6409 Жыл бұрын
Awesome!! Enough said, just Awesome!!
@arai4176
@arai4176 11 ай бұрын
Dangit man. Sterling looks like he's 10 years younger in this video. Ha! With all do respect of course. Love he's contributing to bdr videos... and his own channel.
@ronniekoye1
@ronniekoye1 Жыл бұрын
I am attaching information for you guys to check out. I have found this is a much better option for me and way more comfortable. But still really light and packable. It's on Amazon, FE Active Folding camping cot, good, sturdy and I promise you will thank me for the recommendation 😘. I'm a Founder of the Litas Ogden, UT. We get ladies on bikes and out into the big beautiful roads in the UT, ID, WY, and CO. & surrounding states. We do moto camping trips and camp out in the campgrounds with our tents. I love it. We promote safe riding, stewardship of our land and just a grand adventure. This has inspired me to get the ladies to do a off road moto camping trip. I ride both street and dirt and quite a few of the Litas also ride both. I'm going to try to do at least one Enduro road bike trip in our schedule for next summer. Your film really was awesome and so informative and helpful. I will refer to it as a planning reference. Ride safe! Lesley 😎
@randyrunyan9434
@randyrunyan9434 Жыл бұрын
Great video guys! I deployed as a medic to Mc Call in 97 at the wildfires there. Beautiful country!
@randyrunyan9434
@randyrunyan9434 Жыл бұрын
You guys are literally going through the fire zone where we deployed!
@randyrunyan9434
@randyrunyan9434 Жыл бұрын
That would be 2007 not 97
@kegsemptygarage6788
@kegsemptygarage6788 Жыл бұрын
Looks like a great trip!
@barmyarmy935
@barmyarmy935 Жыл бұрын
Great riding and scenery, looking forwards to doing it myself one day. I'm in Australia.
@sethjones1419
@sethjones1419 Жыл бұрын
Great trip and great production!
@bigjoeadvt7
@bigjoeadvt7 Жыл бұрын
Adding this one to the list! Thanks for the vid!
@johnsimpson6457
@johnsimpson6457 Жыл бұрын
Great trip
@johnmacdonald1878
@johnmacdonald1878 Жыл бұрын
Wow, What a neat route, I dont ride off road, I am really tempted try this.
@bshay1993
@bshay1993 Жыл бұрын
I wouldn't ride a big hard bag bike for that reason! A lighter bike with soft bags and he'd probably be fine. You can keep those tanks! Sorry that happened but the hard bags are just asking for it
@johnhoover916
@johnhoover916 Жыл бұрын
We rode this BDR mid July. I went down in what the locals called `moondust`, real deep stuff on a curve. Very lucky to have soft bags as my right leg was pinned under the bag, facing backwards! With my old hard bags, it would have been a call to EMS with a snapped leg for sure. I ended up pretty sore, but nothing broken.
@SteelHorseman
@SteelHorseman Жыл бұрын
Awesome 👏
@richardsuzanne6013
@richardsuzanne6013 Жыл бұрын
Excellent presentation of the IBDR. It's fun to see some of the places we've all travelled; well done, and thanks.
@lzmdamien1651
@lzmdamien1651 Жыл бұрын
OG channel
@ragbag46
@ragbag46 Жыл бұрын
Brilliant, I think I will have to hunt out the other BDR’s. A very interesting bunch of guys, mine are quite a rag tale bunch compared, basically anyone who wants to come, which is half the battle to getting a such diverse set.
@Tastewithnewdrinks
@Tastewithnewdrinks Жыл бұрын
Great review.
@ahmonguniform
@ahmonguniform Жыл бұрын
i dont ride but used to...love this trip, i will plan one on 4x4
@robb907
@robb907 Жыл бұрын
Hello from Alaska. Great vid bro.
@bobmirror7164
@bobmirror7164 Жыл бұрын
I am surprised those tiny little bikes made that trip.
@gregenglehart6795
@gregenglehart6795 11 ай бұрын
The town of Wallace was used to film the movie Dante’s Peak.
@FlipandTheBlueMule
@FlipandTheBlueMule Жыл бұрын
SUCH A GREAT TRIP 👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻 STARTING To think my 1000 pound Street Glide might be getting too heavy for me at 64yo with a broken back. Like I have said b4... enjoy... while you are able
@pichkeang
@pichkeang Жыл бұрын
BEST VIDEO
@ovidididaho
@ovidididaho Жыл бұрын
Yes 2023!!!!!
@mabsbry1318
@mabsbry1318 Жыл бұрын
Brilliant, thank you. I enjoyed watching how the 990, 800 GS or the bigger 1200/1250 suspension dealt with the rougher surfaces. I thought the 800 looked more settled, followed closely by the 990’s?
@darinlaw2939
@darinlaw2939 Жыл бұрын
Sure would be great to ride those trails, backroads
@AdventureGlide
@AdventureGlide Жыл бұрын
Hahaha, Deep Patch of Sand, we call those dust puddles here in the high desert. Lol. They can be sketchy.
@vinuezaer
@vinuezaer Жыл бұрын
Great as all other BDR'S .
@glennr9913
@glennr9913 Жыл бұрын
Most riders seem to be on large ADV type bikes. It seems like smaller dual-sports would be just as good, or perhaps better in some places, for that type of riding?
@devine_adventure
@devine_adventure Жыл бұрын
It'd unnecessary. I have both and I'd much rather be on my ktm 500 if the route is 75% dirt or so.
@lisaloetzner1543
@lisaloetzner1543 Жыл бұрын
I ride like a girl.
@Adtree
@Adtree Жыл бұрын
Yes your right,just watch itchy boots on you tube!!
@ops5todd
@ops5todd Жыл бұрын
Yeah but you wouldnt as cool.
@joeybobbie1
@joeybobbie1 Жыл бұрын
@@lisaloetzner1543 that’s ok, I would Love to do a Ride with you. More Power to you if you’re a Girl Riding the Trails, or Adventure Riding. There are some very Top of the Line Girl Adventurers. Just check out Itchyboots. She has taken a Honda CRF300L all over the World. Also through places that are just Mind Boggling She got through. She also does this Riding alone. Just Incredible. Probably the best Adventure Rider there is.
@wadedanielson9596
@wadedanielson9596 9 ай бұрын
My buddy and I are doing the Idaho BDR in October this year, I hope it's not too cold for us😅
@Goyahkla100
@Goyahkla100 2 ай бұрын
Those roads can be bad in a truck. I can't imagine what they are like on a bike. Slow is faster........at the beginning the camera bike looked to be going to fast. Just after that was the incident with the sand in the road. I am very surprised you guys had those problems!!!
@NullHand
@NullHand Жыл бұрын
Umm, if you had a handsaw and half a dozen men why not cut and turn that little tree?
@garyo4456
@garyo4456 Жыл бұрын
I’m curious if the broken leg is associated to the hard bags?! If the fellow who broke the leg moves to soft luggage…there’s you answer!
@savage22bolt32
@savage22bolt32 Жыл бұрын
For the price of that gear, I wouldn't let them cut my pants off!
@ragbag46
@ragbag46 Жыл бұрын
Two down on the first day, bet that slowed everyone down a bit. Made me think a bit, 20 days riding with a group of ten around Vietnam most of December, reckon I might be a bit more cautious!!!!
@devine_adventure
@devine_adventure Жыл бұрын
Grew up in Clark fork.
@jmo2752
@jmo2752 Жыл бұрын
Be aware that the Burgdorf Hot Springs has new owners now, and you need to make a reservation before you arrive... plus the prices for cabins is considerably more expensive than it was when this film was made.
@jmo2752
@jmo2752 Жыл бұрын
There is no longer fuel available at Burgdorf either - you need to fill up beforehand at Warren, or be able to make it as far as Riggins (just off the main BDR route on hwy 95).
@johnhoover916
@johnhoover916 Жыл бұрын
Yep, this was a source of frustration for us. We camped right near there, and packed up early to go for a soak in the hot springs after many long days on the trail. We soon found out we couldnt go anywhere near the place without a reservation. How you're supposed to make one with no cell service for days in either direction is beyond me. Signs saying "NO WALK INS``. Seems silly as there`s nothing around for miles.
@StreetSinner
@StreetSinner 7 ай бұрын
Lollygagged right through the center of the universe and didn't even mention it.
@BigDaveTALKS
@BigDaveTALKS Жыл бұрын
Thank you for the maps and videos. Such a tremendous asset to have. Have yall on any trip had an issue with animals, (bears, wolves, mountain lions..ect) getting into camp? If so, how was it handled. I am still a newbee in the ADV world and this is a concern of mine as I like to pack tuna and salmon.
@joeybobbie1
@joeybobbie1 Жыл бұрын
I kinda worry about that too. Being from Texas, I have no experience at all with Bears. I do on Mountain Lions, but they always were a chance sighting and I was well Armed.
@BigDaveTALKS
@BigDaveTALKS Жыл бұрын
@@joeybobbie1 🤣 Same. Although, several years back the TPWD introduced black bear back into my east Texas hunting grounds. Angelina and Sabine national forest. Now they have signs up showing that black bear can look like the huge hogs we have and if you shoot a bear, you going to be in big trouble. Either way i will be armed in some manner. Just have to be ware of the reciprocal laws
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