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[@slaws2279]

“It’s okay. I’m going to help you,” is truly haunting.

[@stellarwind1946]

Downright demonic

[@compulsiverambler1352]

It's possible that was Ethan before he was killed too. Maybe we'll find out if Kohberger decides to confess.

[@Goalsold]

OMG he is evil saying that to Maddie before he turned on her. Sick mind. He needs to be executed.

[@slaws2279]

@@compulsiverambler1352 maybe. I feel like Dylan would’ve recognized his voice though, and the affidavit made it sound like it wasn’t his voice. But we’ll see.

[@compulsiverambler1352]

@@slaws2279 She might have, but that seems unlikely because they point out that the voice she assumed at the time was Kaylee (seemingly just because she also heard Kaylee's dog) might have been Xana. They wouldn't say that if they were confident that sound travels well enough from room to room in the house for her to reliably distinguish different young adult same-sex voices. In my childhood houses, much smaller than theirs, all adult male voices sounded the same when heard from a different room.

[@saviyou]

“It’s ok, I’m going to help you” as he finishes her off. That’s nightmare fuel.

[@user-vv2wd9vm4l]

That’s a real pos doing something like that.

[@Aneenvw]

@@anjou6497 I’m sure if anyone was still alive they would have been screaming.

[@Keycrazzy]

@torpedox1601 what

[@Keycrazzy]

@torpedox1601 just ban kitchen knives why don’t you

[@Jesuisderetour88]

@@Aneenvw lungs 🫁 punctured brainiac. Only a few whimpers were left before the final blow.

[@UncleJunior240]

Does everyone not remember Ted Bundy passing that girl on the stairs after he killed those girls at that sorority house? He was wearing a ski mask and carrying the piece of wood he beat them to death with and didn't touch the girl coming in when he was leaving

[@j.p5666]

He's tryna b jus like ted

[@thekat4493]

I wonder if BK wanted to inflict that terror on someone and left her alive on purpose so she could tell the story. He would have known she was there.

[@Njbear7453]

I saw a picture of “someone” In a ski mask.... wow

[@allysahatfield7438]

I think their adrenaline is going so bad at that time they are blanked out and don’t even realize or too wore out

[@privard89]

I'm guessing based on him speeding off that he may have thought she heard the killings and called the police so he thought he didn't have time to attack anyone else

[@sunnyday6680]

Why does this host keep saying "a downstairs bedroom roommate"? NO. The document clearly states that DM's room was actually on the SECOND floor-- the same floor as Xana. She was on the same floor as the suspect and two victims when the crime happened. She was never on the first floor. It is clearly stated in the document.

[@nataliev.149]

She was on the second floor bedroom closes to stairs to the first floor and bathroom, the kitchen and sliding door is closer to Xana’s bedroom which is also by the stairs to the third floor. The floor plans shows it. So Dylan probably heard Xana who might have met the killer in the kitchen when she was eating the food she ordered. Xana probably felt a present around the kitchen and she probably left the door unlocked by accident after grabbing her door dash. After she felt it she went to tell Ethan she think she saw someone in the kitchen. They both open the door and dude was standing there and he stabbed Xana first outside not sure why she didn’t scream then proceeded to stab Ethan who fought but lost. Then he came back for Xana and talk to her nicely so she wouldn’t scream? That he was going to help her ? Instead he stabbed her some more. Then he proceeded upstairs to stab Kaylee and Maddie who were found in their beds. Then his knife either broke or wasn’t working anymore so he came down saw Dylan but was in a stage of exhaust and no more useful weapon and he didn’t want to strangle ? So he left? Idk just my theory

[@SunshineMoonshine91]

@@nataliev.149 umm. That's a lot of random specific details. Kinda creepy.

[@Deadlygangsta]

@@SunshineMoonshine91 Everyone is creating their own story of events based on this affidavit, it's not really creepy. We have to wait for real details to emerge. Everything is speculation right now.

[@miakunter]

Seems like a very new part of the story. I am a bit frustrated that several reporters keep saying both surviving roommates were on the first floor. The affidavit says Dylan's room was on the 2nd floor. It spells it out.

[@Mirristal]

@@nataliev.149 lmao where did you pull these random inserts. Doordash? Tf you talking about. Meds natalie.

[@insaneone4369]

Some of the most infamous serial killers leave survivors for the purpose to help tell the story. This guy was fulfilling a sick fantasy.

[@OikPoinFive]

But ur name is....ugh smh

[@vaniaramalho1869]

Oh yes!

[@maryjane4432]

I just think they weren’t part of the plan. But xana ordering food and being awake messed up his plan

[@PistolP33]

Xana likely reappeared back in her room to find a deceased Ethan. When she went to get her food he was butchered.

[@vaniaramalho1869]

@@PistolP33 i also think he went directly upstairs, and he i saw that Xana&Ethan were awake and went there and killed them to. Yet that doesn’t explain he walking just next to D.M and leave. There is more to it of course. But it’s all so sad. I hope their soul’s rest in peace✨

[@TATNThisAintThatNetwork]

The math ain’t mathin

[@alyssamaria7057]

imagine being the doordash delivery driver at 4am omg

[@busterhyman6633]

where do you even order food from at 4am besides waffle house

[@Deadlygangsta]

@@busterhyman6633 in a college town? seems normal, even for Idaho.

[@Njbear7453]

What’s odd to me is how late they were still awake AFTER they returned home .. 2 hours after coming home from drinking ? I’d be asleep big time.

[@jimbrown9817]

@@busterhyman6633 In Meridian, a city 2x or more the size of Moscow, the Waffle House isn’t open that late and doesn’t open that early. As a night shift worker I looked for food a number of times last summer and found nothing after 0100-0200 on weekends only, although I didn’t search Boise thoroughly.

[@quantumpotential7639]

Every time I drive by a Waffle House I think of Tim Cup.

[@paulamann3502]

4 AM orders and receives Door Dash: This should be listed as two separate events. Door Dash couldn't have been that fast.

[@didibolter9362]

I have never used Doordash, would you tell me how it works? Thank you!

[@paulamann3502]

@@didibolter9362 I am no expert on them. Drivers sign up to deliver food to people that order. DoorDash gets a lot of restaurants in an area to offer delivery through them. Then people can order delivery. So DoorDash is as I understand it a third party deliverer.

[@didibolter9362]

@@paulamann3502 I thank you very much for answering my question my sweet friend, that's awfully nice of you, thank you again! I really hope that you have a wonderful day tomorrow, enjoy! 😎🤗💃

[@nostalgia545]

One time my roommate in another room heard me crying over my math exams, but my sleeping roommate in the same room as me didn’t hear anything. She came to help me. 😢 I’ll never forget her kindness

[@earlynsherwood7449]

6yr6

[@BeGioBijoux]

Ok but hearing crying but not struggle and stabbing??? Isn’t that suspicious?

[@nostalgia545]

@@BeGioBijoux I agree. If it was me I think I would have called 911 as soon as I saw the guy with the mask.

[@HS-ie8tj]

@@nostalgia545 they lived in a party house. People constantly came in and out of their home. The last thought is four murders. Have empathy. We have hindsight, she lived it for real.

[@nostalgia545]

@@HS-ie8tj Yea but at what party house do you see someone walking around in surgical gloves and a mask? Also it was 4am. If it was midnight and there was a party going on then yea but at 4am that’s just ridiculous. Especially since they had a quiet night and then suddenly at 4am they are making noises. That part just doesn’t make sense. Also she could have texted her roommates to see if they were alright especially since Xana was crying

[@catebessencourt2137]

He went back to look for the knife sheath, he realized he left it behind. May justice prevail for the victims and their families

[@GhettoToaster85]

How you know what is in someone elses brain? Oh a know it all i see

[@djangoknight]

@@GhettoToaster85lol calm down damn. It was just a take. Hopefully they get all the answers and justice is served.

[@Miguel323527]

@Ghost85 not hard to understand, he probably ditched all the evidence right after and then realized he didn't have the sheath . Went back hoping it fell outside the house and didn't see it but wasn't willing to go back in the house.

[@GhettoToaster85]

@@djangoknight 😂😂😂

[@GhettoToaster85]

Probability? Yes. But there is also a high chance it was for simple satisfaction. Just to see that house. A lot of killers do that. I THINK it was for satisfaction, but I am not gonna sit here and say thats what it was. I dont THINK he was gonna step a FOOT in that house. But im not saying he wouldnt. I dont think hed be that dumb. That was more than likely his first kill. He isnt THAT damn bold. Had he went on to kill more ppl, then the chances of doing something that risky gets higher. Just my opinion tho.

[@mariel4085]

He killed all 4 within 8 minutes, wtf that can't be right..

[@jilujoilujiut2165]

And there saying these were his first murders , that sure does not seem right.

[@katinabrown1681]

Did he have help?

[@01cmedina]

How you figure 8 minutes?

[@JTB33b]

You can probally stab someone 30 times within a minute. 8 minutes can feel like an eternity.

[@shayalynn]

That would mean approximately 2 minutes with each victim, with no one putting up a fight. Obviously some had worse injuries than the others which makes it more difficult to understand how there could only be one involved? Also not counting the amount of time it takes to walk from one room to next, up and down the stairs?

[@myronsmith2114]

Maybe he went back to look for the knife sheath. He may have thought he dropped it outside

[@nikkis7375]

Possible and the other reason is that I heard from some expert talking that criminals often like to return to the scene to see the reaction from police and the crowd. There is evidence to suggest he first went there and then came home and then turned his phone off later in the same amount of time it takes to go to the house and back and he likely went there again while police and a crowd of people gathered outside the house

[@karenbest2717]

He must’ve been surprised to see no police cars when he returned to the scene 5 hours later!!

[@wary5775]

Or it wasnt him which mean they were two killers

[@tnkn969]

"Hoodie guy" must be relieved. Poor guy!

[@katiesioux7757]

Many people are I'm sure but especially him

[@kevinmahon7848]

@@katiesioux7757 Hoodie Guy would have battled for them.

[@katiesioux7757]

@@kevinmahon7848 apparently they tried to battle for themselves, I'm glad there were no more victims, or I hope there isn't

[@courtneyfitzpatrick3214]

Ya it’s a shame Couple those young men should change their name And hopefully heal the best they can

[@katiesioux7757]

@@courtneyfitzpatrick3214 my heart breaks for Maddie and Kaylees boyfriends too, those boys really loved those girls.

[@bdawg3942]

So she sees the apparent murderer and locks herself in her room, but doesn’t wake the other girl in her room too tell her? Then calls the police 6 hrs later. I understand shock and being scared, but something is a miss🥺

[@ariamason9324]

They probably had drugs so they didn't want to call police

[@bdawg3942]

Interesting point, but if she was frozen with fear, she had obviously witnessed something pretty horrific

[@timonza]

At that point, she may not have known anyone was dead. It was a party house with people coming and going. Doordash was delivered at 4am - let's not blame innocent people. Keep focused on the person cops have arrested

[@bdawg3942]

🙄So she shouldn’t be in a state of shock?

[@BillsFan2024]

Yeah.. something isnt adding up. Plus I think they called and didnt even tell them they were dead or stabbed... How do U not notice that???

[@wynnebeaule2383]

And for the all the people that worked night and day all the overhours of working on this prayers and thoughts go out to you guys

[@katiesioux7757]

And for the scene they faced, I couldn't imagine

[@wynnebeaule2383]

@@katiesioux7757 I couldn't imagine what they faced

[@smashville2897]

What I don’t understand is why the roommate didn’t call 911 after she locked herself in her room. Something about that seems very odd.

[@lindabos9387]

Agree

[@GeoffInfield]

Extremely odd, after what she saw and heard, even if you were paralysed with fear (I would be!) when the sun rose you'd want more than anything to talk to the other house mates. But nobody checked on them til NOON? Calling 911 and not saying a world should still get a welfare check, whispering 'intruder' would make sure. It's very surprising. And horrible. That flatmate must be a real mess after this, not ripping on anyone, we're all just confused and sad af 😥

[@katiesioux7757]

She didn't know what was going on, it could have been a frat prank or something

[@Tula1987]

This is weird and something doesn’t add up

[@lindabos9387]

@@katiesioux7757 you would still check if you heard your friend crying , well I would

[@Nancy-mz2eh]

I don't think he saw her. He was probably all in his head at the moment.

[@ellamez7876]

So strange

[@Nancy-mz2eh]

I doubt she opened her door all the way, either. I think it was more like she was peeking.

[@RG-hf4et]

Yes, she probably was peeking out her door.

[@MustardSeedmedia13]

I still don't understand how does one person kill four people with no yelling or screaming? Something is missing?

[@dianabeurman364]

Agree

[@bretclaar1663]

And in 8 minutes

[@novacane3407]

I’m not sure either but it will probably make more sense as we get more info. If xana was awake there was no way Ethan wouldn’t have woken up and at least put up a fight and there’s no way Dm wouldn’t of heard that. Unless he killed the 2 girls on the top floor came down to the second floor and killed ethan while xana was out of the room. I’m not sure but the affidavit definitely made me have a lot more questions

[@owenriggs8518]

When a throat is slit, there goes your vocal chords.

[@stephanierice784]

Chloroform?

[@MustardSeedmedia13]

How do you see someone in your house and don't call the police for another 7 hours? The roommate needs to be investigated more.

[@jilujoilujiut2165]

especially after hearing the crying wth ?

[@happyhippie556]

I agree...or at least question her as to why she waited 5 hours to report. I would have called as soon as I got back in my room!! Only logical..right?

[@shayalynn]

7 hours and 41 minutes. Every minute counts in my opinion. It’s way too long

[@WiltonManors-lw6rz]

That man you interviewed was totally clueless lol.

[@patricias5122]

Thank you for having the humanity to say, "totally understandable" about the poor little girl who hid, terrified in her room for hours. (The criticism of her is truly disturbing.) This is the worst murder case imaginable, to destroy four young people who had not really even achieved full adulthood.

[@vestagirl8484]

She is a grown adult woman, not a “ poor little girl”. Why is it so popular these days to try and blur the lines between childhood and adulthood? Weird.

[@chrisemerson7743]

@@vestagirl8484 so just because a person is 20 or 21 you think they are an adult? These kids have barely lived and aren't but a year away from being a teenager! So yea if your 45 or 48 like me then then yea a 21 year old person is a kid! Is that your only argument! Bet your fun to be around!

[@mtio2807]

LoL …. “Poor little girl”. The accomplice of course

[@mtio2807]

You know damn well the victims might have lived had she called for help

[@vestagirl8484]

@@chrisemerson7743 yes, they are legally an adult in the USA when they turn 18. They are not “kids”. Why do you want to blur the lines between childhood and adulthood? I find that very odd, but it seems to be quite popular for some people to want there to be no legal age or legal age of consent. Hmm.

[@EncyclicalPrograms]

For everyone here losing their minds against the survivors. I think what happened is that your mind plays tricks on you. It's a college town, instead of admitting the worst scenario, her mind might have told her that maybe it's someone that the girls knew, or a random frat boy. In those situations your mind will make up a story to disassociate from the worst possible scenario. I think this is why she didn't call the cops right away.

[@Kaimaci]

Good insight. Cause I’m honestly feeling angry about the survivors not calling however your pov makes a lot of sense. We have no idea what she was thinking

[@fishernate]

I’m sorry but that just doesn’t make sense to me.

[@EncyclicalPrograms]

@@Kaimaci Well I remember what college was like, new people all the time showing up at the townhouse. If I would've stepped outside and seen a random person, I might not immediately suspect they brutally murdered my friends.

[@Mr_deez89]

That doesn't make sense at all. There was crying, a dog barking, people talking and then literally saw a guy at 4am in the morning with half his face covered leaving the house. Then they had the bright idea to go to sleep, not check on anyone, and call police at 12pm the next day. Some friends they must've been if she didn't care at all to check on anyone or even text/call them to check if they were ok.

[@derekhudson3523]

so why did she immediately lock herself in her room if she wasn't fearful?

[@dukengare819]

How did he manage to kill 4 people within such a short time? Why didn't DM call the police after locking herself in? There's more than meets the eye here, IMO though!

[@mtio2807]

Yes. Sadly this being a revolving door home, people come and go. She obviously thought nothing of it. Nothing wrong with that. However, she said she froze in shock. Why?? She obviously didn’t witness a murder.

[@lisev415]

Thats my question exactly. Killed four people i 5 minutes...

[@belindaf4584]

I still cannot understand why the survivor did not call the police. If she locked her bedroom she had to have fear. Call the police!

[@1ACL]

Maybe you dont understand because nothing like that has ever happend to you. Maybe you could try just not saying anything because yoy have never experienced intense shick and trauma.

[@PistolP33]

I get the shock factor, but victims of violent crime are often calling 911...DURING the impending attack. She had plenty of time to regain composure. We are shrouded in mystery here, but more answers are needed

[@tiffanynieto5418]

@TorpedoX and if she's not a victim? Lmao

[@grandmasfavorite1104]

“it doesn’t makes sense!!” bro not all of the information has been released are you guys that stupid?

[@el34glo59]

@@PistolP33 She didn't know he was murdering her friends. She probably never imagined it. I think people need to wait to hear the entire story which I'm sure will make sense. Because if it didn't, the FBI would be all over her. They don't hand out free passes

[@tiffanynieto5418]

So no one asked the roommate why she took so long to call 911 if she had been "so scared" when she saw him?? Lmao. Something is not right

[@Penny_Royalty]

Ok putting the whole “she prob thought it was a random dude who knew someone in the house” “she must’ve been in shock” etc etc aside, clearly she was scared bc she locked her bedroom. Also what random college dudes wear masks. The crying she heard was prob a victim wimpering as she was close to death. A call to 911 may have saved someone, who knows. But if I see a dude in a mask at 4am, I’m calling the police period. The only thing I can think is it’s normal if you live in a shared space in college you lock ur bedroom. I did it all the time. I never knew what rando dude someone was gonna bring home. But locking my door bc I saw the strange masked dude clad in black, a locked door is not enough. would it not dawn on you that others in the house might be scared too?

[@kerrymessenger3954]

Maybe her phone was charging in another room.

[@Lulu-hq8mx]

There is not way he killed 4 people in 8 mins. Something is off

[@marcopolo-xj4yw]

Sometimes a website can show ‘online’ for 5-10 minutes after your last keystroke. In any case 10-15 minutes is entirely possible to stab and kill 4 people. He wasn’t trying to torture them and stay in there longer than necessary.

[@BillsFan2024]

Are u assuming they are all up and have metal gear on or something? Step 1- Slash the Males throat, the biggest threat... Then stab him a few times... Step 2- Slash the GirlFriend who is either still sleeping or waking in panic Step 3- Go to other room where 2 other girls are sleeping or laying down. Step 4- Stab them several times. Now go stare at a clock for 8 minutes. And tell me that's not enough time to kill 4 people.

[@EmmaDee]

They said it was more like 16 minutes.

[@Cyko..]

You've been watching too many movies. It takes mere seconds just to stab someone and watch them slump over as you go on to the next victim and do the same thing. Could probably stab and kill 12 people in 7 minutes if you wanted to.

[@nataliev.149]

Maddie and Kaylee were found in bed, so they were asleep most likely but Xana and Ethan were found by their doors. Ethan inside and Xana outside their bedroom doors

[@IAlecs]

I have problems with the 911 call six hours later ! I still Can’t process that, I would’ve called way sooner , I mean a stranger in the house with a mask around 4 am, a crying sound in one of the rooms!!!! Wtf !!!

[@mtio2807]

8 hours later DM called her friends to come over. One of THOSE friends called 911.

[@mtio2807]

Just to think the victims could have survived had she ACTED IN TIME (given she had nothing to do with the murders)

[@vestagirl8484]

You’re not allowed to say that! DM is just “a little girl” with no agency.

[@IAlecs]

@@vestagirl8484 Did I miss something ??? Since when a 21 year old is a little girl ???? She is an adult . Don’t talk nonsense .

[@GhettoToaster85]

Who cares if yoy have a problem with her calling the cops later. You act like you are of some importance. Leave the girl alone you YT detective

[@stellarwind1946]

The affidavit did not help clear things up about the surviving roommates actions that night. It did precisely the opposite.

[@cathyosborn9905]

She was scared to death and is lucky she shut and locked the door.

[@jimkon5767]

The affidavit is directed at the perpetrator; not the surviving members ....

[@accesstotheredcarpet]

Y’all common folks do not have literacy skills to comprehend affidavits. Suggest you watch Johnny Law’s channel. He is a former forensic investigator and he breaks it down the affidavit in layman’s terms to help common folks like yourself who don’t understand literature of affidavits. Go check it out.

[@stellarwind1946]

@@cathyosborn9905 from what we now know, we are left to believe she heard crying from upstairs and moments later encounter an unidentified person in all black, wearing a mask, presumably soaked in blood, and carrying a knife before slipping out the back door. Now we have an even more confusing 7 hour timeframe that went by before the police were called.

[@قناةلنشرالخير-ص3ل]

@@cathyosborn9905 When we are scared to death we call 911. We don’t lock our bedroom door and don’t send a group text message to all roommates to warn them or call their cellphone. Those roommates bled to death for hours. A 911 call could’ve scared the killer to run away or he could’ve gotten caught before he kills all of them, the injured could’ve received medical help and transported to the hospital, but hiding and not doing anything about it was a very bad move. I personally think she was drunk or on drug, she saw him and then went to her room locked the door and slept. People on drugs and alcohol can’t make good decisions

[@myronsmith2114]

They guy with the glasses is funny . He has hair but he looks completely bald at the same time

[@amandabonanza]

This Story Is definitely Scary. The fact that he did a quadruple murder alone tho? Seems Strange.

[@yumyummarbles]

he did ask was anyone else arrested so that's surprising

[@Deadlygangsta]

@@yumyummarbles when did he ask that????

[@yumyummarbles]

@@Deadlygangsta watch the daily coverage from the past 2 weeks and find it yourself lol. there is even one of him on facebook impersonating as some random talking about the sheath when no news source or release EVER talking about a sheath. he even got in a huge argument with some people and it looked psychotic.

[@Deadlygangsta]

@@yumyummarbles you’re lying, full of crap.

[@shayalynn]

@@yumyummarbles oh that’s highly sus. I bet there’s more than just him involved for sure.

[@notadumbblond3]

I wonder if he'll ever say honestly why he chose them. And if he meant to get all 4 or if it was supposed to be just 1 or 2.

[@socuteboom]

Thank you for laying out the timeline of everything so clearly.

[@carolin1530]

To kill 4 people - with some of them being awake and on different floors - in 13 minutes seems unlikely

[@carolin1530]

and not being covered in blood

[@PistolP33]

How did he manage to get all 4 without more than a cry or two and limited commotion? How was he able to ensure compliance of either of the two roommates in each room as he was assured he could stab away knowing the other wouldn't try to flee? Was he also equipped with a gun? Not to shoot, but as a way to leverage compliance.

[@balle733]

Doesn’t make any sense.

[@anonone8954]

I'm no mathematician, but something isn't adding up. Does the father need to be arrested??

[@casparnigell5510]

maybe stun gun? perhaps police have not released every bit of evidence...

[@enchanted376]

I heard he might of had a stun gun and a second knife it was from a leaked Facebook page supposed to be BK's..plus the victims were drinking that night and also were in bed so that makes you a little more vulnerable especially if you don't see it coming.

[@el34glo59]

How doesn't it make sense? He got two of them in bed. Before they even knee what happened, they were gone. He them probably got the other girl, and then the guy. Probably only struggled with one. Maybe told them stfu and then stabbed the hell out of them and they went into shock? Or stabbed them I the lungs. This was a brutal stabbing. Not struggling and some cutting them etc etc. By all accounts they wer very deep stabs and violent. Maybe he stunned them? We just don't know, but it's certainly not impossible. He's 28 and armed. These were small girls and one 20 year old guy that were drunk. That knife was large. Doesn't take much. The thud was probably him knocking out someone. He boxed in the past. Then he probably stabbed that person? When you're not ready for someone coming in with a large knife, and you're drunk in bed, you're extremely vulnerable

[@tysgem7]

I have one simple question: when DM heard the unusual noise at 4am and then proceeded to lock herself in her room, why were the police not called at any point during this time (4am (ish). For the love of God !! Did he threaten her life ? Give me some credible answer; kids are so quick to Tik Tok some sh** but can't dial 911 during a crisis like this ???? I am literally sicker to my stomach at this point; all over again. Im so pissed right now !!!!

[@mrwinston_thepug]

I feel the same way. Is she involved?

[@ZinniasandAsters]

Yes!!!

[@chappellroanplsgotomanilaibeg]

Why are you all turning your anger to the girls who was probably shocked and traumatized that time . Fearing for her life he might return. It's a fight or flight or FREEZE situation, each and everyone of us reacts differently to it, not until we experience it. When there's this suspect right there with his dna on the sheath he left in the murder scene? You are all sick.

[@cathyosborn9905]

@@chappellroanplsgotomanilaibeg Exactly Be angry with the killer. Not a young lady who was scared to death.

[@cathyosborn9905]

You aren't owed any more details at this point. Wait until it all comes out. We got way more info in release of info than anybody expected.

[@egyptianhebrew91]

the police have a weak case against this guy, dna could have been planted by police because they had no suspects

[@WhoDat70]

Did they steal his car and phone and drive it to the scene too? Like 12 times in the past couple of months 😂 Gtfoh

[@lifeasiseeit4286]

So did DM know her roommates had been murdered at the time she opened the door the 3rd time? If she never left the doorway, then there's no way she knew they were killed. She couldn't have seen into Xana's room. So why was she in a state of shock?

[@trinavargas9830]

It’s instincts

[@dishdog215]

"frozen shock phase" are simply descriptive words in a police statement. She cracked open her door because she heard noises, was likely uncertain and even concerned, the moment after she cracked the door...a figure is walking towards her from Xanas room direction. She freezes as this would be a bit startling. The pathway from Xanas to the kitchen exit, means he walks straight at her, steps down 8" to the kitchen level directly in front of her door ( he would be focusing on the split-level step)... he pivots 50° and has his back to her...and walks out

[@cthruu6033]

Im sorry but DM is not a victim literally nothing happened to her or was evrn attempted. She is a witness or a suspect.

[@luvtoyscollector3373]

I read all this on msn news; The two roommates that were alive, ones slept on the 2nd floor Dylan, the other slept on the first floor. Dylan saw him in the house. She opened her door several times. She heard one of the victims crying & heard the suspect tell the victim “it’s ok I’m going to help you”. She heard the dog barking. She didn’t recognize the guy wearing all black & a mask. After she saw the guy that’s when she locked her bedroom door. Police found his footprint 👣 outside the door as well. Supposedly it said there was also a door dash order at 4am. He was gonna get them also. Also he circled the house 3-4 times before going inside. Caught in video. The DNA 🧬 was on the cover of the knife 🔪 he left on the victims bed. Still no weapon found. I can’t even imagine. I get she was scared but why didn’t she call police at 4:20am in the morning 🤔

[@shelia8608]

Chilling thought but what if he meant, "going to help you by finishing her off.

[@nanilotti3321]

Yeah i just dont get how she couldnt call police immideatly... Its weird...

[@craigplatel813]

Don't believe it was father's DNA in sheath. They got father's DNA from trash in Penn and showed that the dna on the sheath was a male relative to the father.

[@Brosephus]

@@nanilotti3321 Ehhhh, Its kinda hard to say that, like being in a situation of life and death and being afraid... maybe even possibly drunk? If I had a daughter or a loved one that maybe left their phone in another room while a murder happened, Id want them to hide and seek cover and wait until he was gone. Like Id want them to wait/hide for however long it takes them to know for sure that this PoS left.

[@katiesioux7757]

She probably didn't realize it was dangerous, she may have thought it was some frat prank crap or something. That house was busy, all of these sounds may not have been strange to her. We also don't know if they drank earlier. I remember very early on they said she thought they were partying or something and kicked her door. Idk We don't know what we would have done either, in the moment you just never know

[@raxstinejrogers515]

The timeline is too close at 4:12 am she is still awake then 5 mins later the car is seen leaving? 5 mins to kill 4? not happening the time frame has to be off...the killing didn't start at 4 am one of the victims was still alive at 4:12 am...

[@misseskite]

ever leave your tiktok on a counter and the video replays constantly? maybe she was looking at it before he killed her, and it played for a while after?

[@01cmedina]

How far did he park his car, the time it took needs to be considered

[@diegochavez49ers]

You can’t even be a college student nowadays without a sicko being out there!! I feel sorry for these kids, they will never know what the future had in store for them!!

[@Njbear7453]

Can’t join a frat without dying or alcohol poisoning, can’t go out without getting roofied..... now you can’t even sleep in your own house you rent just to go to school.

[@anitakristensen4679]

To bad to many people put themselves out on social media. He followed 2 of the students on social media.

[@diegochavez49ers]

@@anitakristensen4679 yikes thats crazy

[@anitakristensen4679]

@@diegochavez49ers he followed Kaylee and Maddie.

[@marybaer4660]

These are not kids and they don't live a good moral life. It's horrible what happened but that's all these young people are doing is partying and having people go in and out of their house also probably drugs. In these times they have no brains.

[@jennagray5343]

I think he was already inside in Kaylee's room waiting. I think his dad was helping him get this car back to sell it. I also think he was still in a "fog" and didn't see her. It just gives me chills thinking how those kids all felt going through this. I just don't understand him being a criminology knowing he would leave dna. That's a massive crime scene. Shutting off his phone, gps, cameras,....pings, the list keeps growing.... I also feel he will get the death penalty. I feel bad for his momma too. Such a senseless brutal crime. At least 7 families lives are changed forever. So heartbreaking and I believe justice will prevail.

[@tonypitsacota2513]

There were 2 girls that survived in that house. All 6 were awake when the murders occurred. One surviving roommate admits to seeing the murderer. The other surviving roommate remains totally silent. Neither survivors call the police till Noon. VERY SHADY.

[@susannana6729]

Yes yes a voice of reason very very shady

[@karmasutra4774]

I assume they had drugs and things there and decided that they could wait and get rid of it all before calling

[@janinedevilliers510]

Very well laid out. Thank you. So horrific. May justice prevail for Kaylee, Madison, Xana, Ethan and their families. Prayers for all and the surviving roommates. 🙏❤️

[@mtio2807]

Looking forward to DM changing her statement

[@weaverdreams]

There could never be justice. Their lives are over. Every Christmas holiday and every single day of the week the families of the four victims will cry over the loss of life and years of memories they could’ve created with their loved one and the families they could’ve created and never will. Our only hope is that this guy gets plenty of cellmates named Bubba and when he leaves this world that our creator has further punishment for him in Hell. But after watching all the NDE’s on KZbin I’m starting to wonder if hell is even a real place.

[@bbpeeker]

@@mtio2807 Why do you think she will change her statement?

[@DavidJRide]

Very well laid out? He actually said, "November 31st" without flinching. And kept on going. 🤦🏽‍♂️🤣

[@Oliver-le1us]

Prayers for all the families and the girls who survived . But how do you hear your roommate maybe crying, see a monster in your home and not call the police or even text the roommates to check on them??? 😢your close enough to see EYEBROWS in the dark?

[@cathyosborn9905]

Have you been in her shoes? You might not respond the way you think you would

[@mariel4085]

@@cathyosborn9905 You would wait nearly 9 HOURS to call 911...come on stop the bs & trying to explain away her actions, it's insane.

[@BH-xp8ic]

@@cathyosborn9905 All this evidence is very convincing, I do believe they have the guy and he will be convicted. Having said that, this girls story sounds extremely sketchy

[@cathyosborn9905]

@@mariel4085 I don’t know what I’d do. I also believe you think you’d know what you’d do but in that real situation it’s different. Differing opinion I guess.

[@Mr_deez89]

@@cathyosborn9905 please explain how you could go to sleep after hearing your friend crying, people talking, a dog barking and hearing your friend say there's someone in here. Not only that, you saw a guy with half his face covered leaving the house after all this commotion. Some friends they must've been if she didn't even call or text her roommates to see if they were ok and have the peace of mind to fall asleep. Please explain how someone could stay "frozen" for 9 hours

[@mistrjt9213]

What about the bushy eyebrows made her so frightened that she locked her self in the room? At this time, she isn’t even aware of what had happened to her housemates. She’s never seen a potential guest walk down her hallway? If bushy eyebrows walked right past her, why would she have thought he was such a threat? How did both roommates mistake a bloodbath for an “unconscious“ person?? Did the house not have windows? I’m sure the sun was out by 9:30 that morning. So many questions because it just doesn’t make common sense.

[@TATNThisAintThatNetwork]

Yeah. The math ain’t mathin.

[@katiesioux7757]

Probably those creepy eyes and horror movie eye brows

[@daniellogansa8101]

Coz he was wearing a mask

[@bambinaforever1402]

The knife was not left on the murder scene, means he was carrying it in his hand. So allegedly she sees a man in a mask carrying a blood dripping knife and just goes back to sleep? Like wtf? And even later in the afternoon it was not her calling 911. How about them apples

[@staceyshaffer180]

It’s a frat house with 6 people living there. People were coming and going at all hours, all the time. Her roommates being murdered is something that I’m sure didn’t even cross her mind.

[@rhondacheramie9173]

Make me understand why the surviving roommate didn’t call 911 when she knew she was safe. This fact makes no sense .

[@kierankobaissi2396]

I dont understand either but i doubt we'll ever truly know

[@elara2498]

I think she just assumed positive instead of negative. She heard cries, she saw the murderer walking off. She froze and didn't say anything. Her instincts saved her. If she had asked him questions, he would have finished her off too. She didn't assume roommates were dead just by hearing cries, no one would. That goes to show the expertise of killer in killing smoothly enough not to make much sounds. All she assumed was an intruder or visitor walked in the house but now he's gone and the upstairs roommate was crying but now she's not , meaning things been sorted out. If something was wrong, the other four roommates would have said something or came after the man. Who would assume four were dead just by hearing little sounds. She didn't understand the significance of what she heard and saw in that moment. Didn't connect dots in right way. And I think it's mostly because being a party house, it's not unusual to hear sounds and see strangers in.

[@jimbo8888]

It was originally believed two of the surviving room mates lived down stairs. According to the affidavit, it sounds like Dylan (DM) was living on the second floor where the Kitchen and slider door is located, which is also on the same level as Xana's room.

[@sundancita]

Fox, get your facts straight. DM was on the 2nd floor not the 1st floor. That is what it says in the PCA. Also, there is no November 31.

[@rutherfordbhayes423]

One of the survivors was on the first floor .

[@sundancita]

@@rutherfordbhayes423 right but DM was on the second floor.

[@Deadlygangsta]

We need more details and will have to wait. Many of us are getting way too emotional over the vague details in the affidavit.

[@novacane3407]

Thank you. I myself have to remember that the affidavit is just to give probable cause for the arrest. All the other details of what happened that night will for sure be played out during court.

[@Darlathegp]

So true!!! The truth & entire story will come out in trial. This is simply 19 pages with little context or explanation. We will have to wait for the whole picture. The conviction is what is most important, period.

[@katiesioux7757]

Lol vague??? It's pretty specific

[@Deadlygangsta]

@@katiesioux7757 The witness statement leaves more to desire, it was only enough to give observation matching BK.

[@jessemongia9730]

The survivor heard the barking dog in the next room yet decides,oh well, SHE was too tired to call 911 .

[@bjoegday409]

Took him 70 minutes to leave scene and get back to Pullman? Isn’t it a 15 minute drive? Seems like he dumped clothes and weapon during this down time. Police should use this to track down murder weapon.

[@danielavazquezm9931]

Killing 4 people in 15 min or less? He still had to go in and out within that time. How's that even possible?

[@Lulu-hq8mx]

8 mins

[@01cmedina]

Is less than 8 minutes. How far did he park from the home?

[@haydotherapper5401]

It’s 15 min maybe 8 min in the house 4 people at least 40 stabs that hit there mark not possible

[@wamatar7596]

The crime happened around 4 AM , Why she went back to bed and slept peacefully after she saw a stranger passed her and especially after she heard the noise and crying up stair?? After the killer left passing her , Why she didn't at least woke her second surviving roonate and share with her what just happened???? Why the killer didn't eliminate her and just passed her after he saw her face to face and kept going leaving behind a witness to describe him??? The killer went back to the crime seen at 9 AM as proven from his cell phone signal.. Why he would risk even getting close there to the area especially after knowing that one of the roomate saw him and most likely would call the police????It is like he was positive 100% the surviving roomate wouldn't ever call the police .. but WHY he was so sure???? There is a twist to the story something is not adding up

[@novacane3407]

Where did it state she twisted or changed her story. This is what she told the police from day one but the police never released that information until now

[@johnmecker8199]

I’m sure the survivor was told to not mention any of those details until after the affidavit was released

[@Mirristal]

@@novacane3407 yeah. People are dumb af

[@shirtmaninstyle6759]

Seems there is a change at first the surviving roommate says she didn’t hear anything at all then she says she heard Crying and someone telling someone that they would help If they were all friends why didn’t she speak up and say you guys need some help. And after that she saw a stranger with a mask on with bushy eyebrows. Wouldn’t the mask cover his eyebrows

[@timonza]

Just because you haven't heard her statement doesn't mean it changed. The cops keep this information under wraps until the correct point in the investigation/prosecution

[@elara2498]

Please people let's not be harsh to the surviving roommate. She didn't understand the significance of what she saw and heard during the moment. She assumed positive and she assumed wrong. It's good she's alive despite opening up the door and see the murderer walking off, I think he just let her live because he didn't saw her as a threat. If she had started asking him questions, he would have killed her too. So her lack of presence in the moment saved her. I don't think she could have known the real situation as we do now . If she had known, she would have called police. only things we can accuse her of is of not checking on her roommates if she heard them cry but that also depends on the usual behaviour people had in that house. I don't think she went to sleep knowing there was a killer in house. She just assumed there was an intruder or visitor but since nobody came downstairs, she assumed they are ok and if there was trouble they would tell her . They are dead is last thing she would assume by hearing crying sounds. The surviving roommate in chay omega murders had committed suicide due to survivors guilt. So let's be responsible in our reactions

[@islanderbyrd1881]

Which murder did the Chi Omega sorority member commit suicide? Never heard about this.

[@tubbyprinceses2024]

I was thinking the same thing. They never should have released her name.

[@aliasmalias]

It is interesting to observe these comments. The majority finds all kind of imaginary, partly insane explanations for odd details that end up with Bryan being the killer and a sick monster, but for the person that didn't call the police, they find all kinds of explanations that assume the best for her. While I think none of the two should be treated like they're guilty for the time being, "assuming there was an intruder" and "thinking everyone is ok and if there was trouble they would tell her" combined with "hearing crying sounds" is something you should think about a second time. I personally don't think I'd blindly assume everything is okay in this scenario, would you?

[@RG-hf4et]

You see a masked man in your house that doesn't belong there. You can call the police or TEXT anyone without making a peep. She had no idea at this point the others were murdered!!!

[@prairiefire4032]

Wouldn't the murdered be drenched in blood? Victims' blood in the Elantra? Stabbings are reportedly extremely bloody crimes.

[@CH-vm6cq]

Yes but of he was wearing black it probably wasn't that visible

[@reemagee4828]

Why is he referring to them as children and kids? They we're young adults

[@jolandasteffen3578]

Don't understand how he could kill 4 people in less than 10 mins

[@111danish111]

Promptly give him the electric chair 💺

[@myronsmith2114]

If your going to have a death penalty this is exactly the case for it

[@soflodoug]

door dash at 4:00 am? Who was in the door dash car?Who orders door dash at 4:00 am? 🤔

[@BH-xp8ic]

Drunk college kids

[@shayalynn]

How would the killer know about the door-dash prior? It was obviously planned or at least information was given from someone inside the house

[@Alexandria.Washington]

Colleges and universities need to start teaching safety classes for students who live off campus. On-campus housing has lots of safety rules and protocols students must follow. While off-campus housing can be very dangerous as in this case! There was no security, no alarms, no cameras, no locked doors, and random people running in and out of this party house! This was a killer’s Dream house and it proved to be true. Just sad for all affected. 😢

[@jannalise1360]

does seem that *maybe* the roomies could've been inebriated from alcohol/drugs, maybe second guessed herself about what she heard or saw, or assumed it was a hook up situation upstairs, and this was the random guy she saw pass her on his way out --tho it unsettled her (but not enough to call 911). Slept late from partying. Not sure why they called their friends over before phoning police --unless maybe they were nervous about their own state (or lack of) the previous night --once they finally realized something was off in the house next day. (?)

[@emmarose6590]

Idk dude. Before this all happen everyone was stunned the two roommates didn’t hear people being killed or the dog bark, and yet she heard it and saw the man and now people are making excuses. Something is off

[@brunahenrique2302]

Things aren’t adding up to me, it’s just a bunch of odd behaviors from them. The roomate was clearly awake, how can you not notice people screaming and fighting for their lives? Then someone extremely suspicious walks past you inside your house, how can you not think anything of it? Then you have 4 deceased people inside your house how can you not notice that either

[@brunahenrique2302]

Again when she encountered a suspicious man and decided to hide in her room why did you not called the police

[@brunahenrique2302]

Or at least tried to message other roommates to check who that guy was

[@carolemcnamara234]

Could it be they called Ethan’s brother and he brought friend’s?

[@randymorgan8375]

That poor girl is going to need therapy help for years.. Can you imagine..

[@tarak5446]

It's not totally understandable it goes completely against human nature to just go back to sleep after seeing such a thing and not report it until noon. No

[@Maybe-cg2tn]

Seems awfully fast to kill 4 ppl. And with that much damage.

[@karenowens4504]

Question is why didn't the roommate call the police earlier? That's weird.

[@tarak5446]

But I am not saying in any kind of way that the roommates are responsible what I am saying is that is fishy and it does not make a whole lot of sense. Perhaps there are things we just don't know

[@positivevibetec]

Sorry but there is no excuse for not calling the cops. She needs to be looked into further

[@mrwinston_thepug]

The roommates are somehow involved. They hear a thud and dog barking , see a man in their home yet wait HOURS before calling 911 ?!

[@cathyosborn9905]

How dare you accuse them. If LE has found out his role believe me if the roommate played a role they'd know. it.

[@mrwinston_thepug]

@@cathyosborn9905 I have free will and exercise it the way I want. If you dont like my opinion thats fine, I wasnt looking for your approval 🤡

[@jimkon5767]

You're a fool ...

[@cathyosborn9905]

@@mrwinston_thepug wow. I’ll sleep better tonight knowing this. I was really wanting your approval. 🙄

[@mrwinston_thepug]

@@cathyosborn9905 how dare you not want my approval 😂🤡

[@jak9483]

I wonder if there's a drug connection. Brion is a Heroin user and college students can dabble in Weed.

[@deathblade909]

It crazy that he killed all four so quick

[@baldheadkid]

After every new video I keep recalling that scene where Hudson grabs the bad guy Burke (who actually looks like this Kohberger guy) in Aliens: "Oh he's dead! You're dog meat pal!"

[@myronsmith2114]

This case is very strange. The victims behaved very weird. If the girlfriend was woke the boyfriend had to be woke or not in a deep sleep. How did he not put up a fight . He was young and very fit

[@Njbear7453]

I think he did

[@ninabednarz2891]

Why do they always say animals do this. Hello animals don't act like this. Only human monsters dooi!!!

[@cromer0821]

Wouldn't the killer have some blood all over themselves, and DM does not raise suspicion or check on them???

[@BH-xp8ic]

Good point but if he was wearing all black and it was dark in house they couldn’t have seen the blood

[@Lulu-hq8mx]

😮

[@dukengare819]

My question too😔

[@scottjackson163]

Are we supposed to think that this Dylan person knew, before she retreated into her room for the final time, that the masked intruder had already murdered her housemates?

[@winnieencarnacion7825]

My question is how did he commit 4 murders by stabbing in about 8 minutes or so ? The reason I say 8 minutes is because at 4:12 am Xana was reported to be on her phone on TikTok and at 4:20 am the Hyundai Elantra was seen speeding from the scene.

[@Lulu-hq8mx]

It’s not adding up

[@قناةلنشرالخير-ص3ل]

The two girls were in the same bedroom and they were found stabbed to death on the same bed so maybe he stabbed them together at the same time, the two of them sleeping next to each other and he stabbed repeatedly. I guess Xana and her boyfriend were together.. Maybe there was more than one killer.

[@Blakpepa]

Sounds like she was the last to die

[@yumyummarbles]

@@Lulu-hq8mx bruh idk this murder could've literally taken 4 minutes tops and not any longer. it's a stabbing. aren't most stabbing really over in about 10-20 seconds... lets say he had stabbed them multiple times, maybe 40 seconds to a minute and a half?? that's not accounting for each 2 of them literally being in the same room. So yes, the math is adding up.

[@Deadlygangsta]

@@yumyummarbles nah it doesn't add up, they were awake when he committed this crime. Had to be resistance.

[@nancyporvaznik3847]

The affidavit showed that DM's bedroom was on the second floor, not the first floor, as the "reporter" keeps on repeating. The sliding door that he went through was on the second floor.

[@didibolter9362]

How did Kohberger get in the house from the back? Did he shimmy his way up the post that's holding up the balcony?

[@00aggiegirl]

A very tight timeline to enter and stab 4 people to death. I get the roommate deal but that was insanity. He was clearly planning this for a loooong time.

[@awakenthewoke1091]

Planned it so much he walked out of a sliding glass door on the 1st floor having to go down past others to get out. If you believe that's what happened.

[@Alexandria.Washington]

It was a very tight timeline. I think he killed the two roommates upstairs Kaylee and Madison first. I think they were sleeping and it happened very fast. I think once he came back downstairs and realized Ethan saw him, it was probably more of a struggle. I just don’t believe it was as quiet as DM explained. I think Xana was probably screaming vs. crying.

[@lynnd.5135]

@@Alexandria.Washington problem with that theory is that Kaylee or Maddie was on tiktok with the dog at 4.17am and Brian fled at 4.20am

[@Bellaavii]

@@Alexandria.Washington In the Affidavit, Dylan says she could hear what sounded like Kaylee playing with her dog which means Kaylee would’ve been awake

[@00aggiegirl]

@@Alexandria.Washington knowing they were awake, I have to agree with you, and think that there was definitely some more noise made. Kind of feel like they did roommate dirty a little bit, this does not paint her in a good light having seen the killer, and not calling law enforcement until hours and hours later

[@Marco-im1sm]

“She’s in pure survival mode” so she goes to sleep?

[@MTWood]

I just will NEVER understand why the roommate who saw the man just after the killings waited so damn long to call police and even got on social media and made calls to friends before calling 911. There’s just no “real” excuse for that. What if one of those killed could have been saved? Some people survive a stabbing if they don’t bleed out rapidly. Again, I just feel like I need an answer as to why there was NO CALL made when a masked man, that scared you so much you froze and then locked your door, didn’t necessitate a call to 911.

[@austinp-navy1457]

Just because she saw him doesnt mean she knew he had killed anyone. She probably saw him and just thought it was someones friend leaving

[@wallysmitty8659]

They were hiding....and the person didn't know if he was gone yet

[@MTWood]

@@wallysmitty8659 Right. Because you wait until they’re gone before you call 911. Wouldn’t want to interrupt anything going on.

[@Miguel323527]

@M. T. Wood she was wither drunk or high and tripped out. Also, they had people over a lot and the house often had strangers in it. She should've called her friends to see if they had a guy over but like I said, she was probably just tripped the f out and froze.

[@MTWood]

@@Miguel323527 I can see that. Thinking back, when I was living with fraternity brothers off campus, it wouldn’t be that big of a deal to wake up and find a hobo setting up a camp in our living room. And yes, there were many things I/we did that, let’s just say… altered reality. So, you’re probably right. The ONLY problem I have is that if they were scared enough to be “frozen” and lock themselves in their room for 7 hours, a call or two to their upstairs friends shouldn’t be too much to ask.

[@Horsecentstoday]

The roommate is fishy He just walked past her That doesn't add up Do the math

[@danielleh2352]

Children what do you mean weren’t they grown adults.

[@Forzaitaliano]

His name sounds like a takeaway order I'll have the "kohberger" with double cheese mustard ketchup and no onions 😂

[@mazigrace8982]

I think it's possible that Ethan said to Xana "It's ok I'll help you" during the attacks.

[@jj9533]

The roommate probably would have recognized his voice

[@el34glo59]

@@jj9533 Yeah unfortunately I think it was BK. Sick bastard

[@dalysiastokes5361]

He would of called her by her name or used a term of endearment

[@lorrainegarcia5277]

That roommate was involved in the murders

[@nyameyen.4060]

If the room mate had called 911 they would have possibly found the white car on the way....what a tragedy? why didn't she call 911 but wait until almost 9 hours later? Someone could have certainly been saved...In any case, no one knows how they will react under such scary circumstances...May their soul rest in peace. Condolences to the entire bereaved families....

[@thewife6466]

I think unless you’ve been in that situation you don’t know. Hopefully you never will be to find out.

[@patricias5122]

"almost certainly been saved". Don't think so. This man took care to kill the victims, before he left, we can be certain of that. It's grossly inappropriate of people to blame this defenseless, terrified, and traumatized young girl.

[@TR4008]

These murders just don't make any sense . Also The fact that he murdered 4 and then walked past DM without killing her makes no sense at all . The events make no sense .

[@chellepatricefisher4379]

How did he get in??

[@ramonaking1029]

Why didn’t that roommate call or text someone? That is confusing to me

[@margo3367]

They weren’t killed in their sleep. At least two of the girls were awake.

[@susannana6729]

Right ,they fought to, no way could that man have fought n subdued then stabbed 4 grown human beings on his own I've thought this from the start .I've got a suggestion , go get the biggest pork roast you can possibly find a couple of them duck tape them together then tape them to bed then start stabbing say 30 times or so ,see what happens to you physically then imagine it times four with the roast fighting you off ,nope no wayb

[@1ACL]

He's 6ft, 185. Girls look to be 5', 100 lbs. Big sharp knife. It was quick.

[@didibolter9362]

Which 2 girls were awake Margo?

[@margo3367]

@@didibolter9362 I think the two girls who had just got a grub hub delivery and they said that one of the girls was on tik tok around 4 a.m. They also said that the witness heard one of the girls say, “Someone’s here.” The dog was barking…Maybe they had turned out the lights and were going to sleep. I don’t know. We’ll find out more at the trial.

[@didibolter9362]

@@margo3367 Thank you Margo for answering my question! 🤗

[@mustlovedogs5569]

Why wouldn’t she call the police about the male in the mask in her house!

[@JENNIFAFAA]

As someone who lived in a co-Ed apartment with 4 other roommates.. a lot of us had people over.. maybe my roommates were having sex.. I’d still lock my door just because , I wouldn’t assume anything horrible just happened.. how could the roommate have known something that bad just occurred

[@el34glo59]

Exactly

[@CH-vm6cq]

Agreed

[@vestagirl8484]

Her room was across from one of the murder rooms. She was concerned enough to open her door 3 times. Her behavior is inexplicable and her “testimony” will sink this case.

[@rachelrinard1806]

I believe she heard or saw something horrific. Especially, to freeze in place. She felt the need to peek out of her door 3 times, she already feared for her life when she did that, I believe.

[@lisev415]

Well, because she heard crying and a voice rhat she didnt recognize say i am going to help you... you'd wonder right sway: help with what? And at least scream from your room: is everything ok? Lol. I live with 5 people and one day, a dove came inside and my roommate started screaming so we all came out to see what was going on...

[@Jentalks380]

Will the case be live televised?

[@awakenthewoke1091]

The is just me thinking out loud but if he could get into the house without being detected why would he leave in such an obvious way where I would assume he knew other people lived based on the police assumption that he had been by the house several times. Also why return to the area in the same car unless you knew it hadn't been reported yet? Possibly to drop someone off? The trial will be interesting and heartbreaking at the same time.

[@casparnigell5510]

i think he completely missed the fact about door cameras and cctv capturing the car. he's intelligent, but may have overestimated his intelligence - many people have said he was condescending and made them feel stupid. he thought about many things (like turning off the phone - which actually is dumb, whether on or off if you're going to commit murder !), but missed things like the door cams and also DNA (e.g. he'd have to wash the car very thoroughly which in itself is incriminating - again damn if you do, damn if you don't, if you are a killer 😂

[@karenbest2717]

After 6 years of college, unless BK had scholarships, he probably had a lot of student debt and had no spare money to rent a car for the crime. Is it possible that both BK and his father are on the spectrum? BK is supposedly intelligent but very socially awkward, he says inappropriate things, over-explains things, comes across as being arrogant (is perhaps clueless that he is perceived this way - or is he truly a narcissist?), and his father seems odd as well. BK’s sister is a psychologist yet she didn’t notice any unusual tendencies with him?!! Will be interesting to see BK’s relationship with his family members. Was his sister a “favored child”, adding to his resentment against women? His former classmates said BK was a heroin addict. Perhaps his parents went broke trying to get him clean. Would a history of addiction have kept him from being accepted into the police academy he tried to get into? While working as a security guard, how was BK perceived by others & what were his experiences? The witnesses that are brought to court to testify about his personality and character will bring light.

[@casparnigell5510]

@@karenbest2717 interesting views you've raised. I also wonder (not casting aspersions at the victims), but did drugs/heroin play a part in the goings-on at the Moscow house? was he dealing? the visits he made there (more than 12), were they stalking or drugs related? (again I emphasize my focus is on him, not the victims). was he owed money? did someone refuse to pay up? I haven't seen any evidence of drugs, but just thinking aloud here, hope I don't offend anyone

[@karenbest2717]

@@casparnigell5510 One of the latest news reports said he cleaned the car after the murders & before his arrest. He had 7 weeks to clean it so it will be interesting to see if any additional DNA or evidence is found in the car.

[@casparnigell5510]

@@karenbest2717 i understand they'll still be able to find victims' DNA even after his meticulous cleanings, or so many weeks later. Apparently it's nearly impossible to get rid of all DNA unless using specialized chemicals - it seeps into the cushions and cracks etc, i don't think he'll have any luck there. Gosh, he should have known all this but alas! he was studying criminology and not forensic science

[@JuCarlos-ex8ip]

Wth ,I'm still shaking my head why the roommate who saw the assailant didn't even bother to call policia

[@tnkn969]

It must have been scary for DM but I wish she had at least messaged a friend once she was locked in her room. Let someone know! Unless she was under the influence and fell asleep and therefore called police hours later.

[@Frida454]

Impossible to fall asleep after what she saw/experienced. No way!!

[@bdawg3942]

Or woke the other girl up in her room and asked for both to go to investigate

[@Blakpepa]

I didn't want to believe she's connected but it sounds like she is or she is the biggest airhead known to Mankind

[@happyhippie556]

WHY did she NOT call 911???? I mean Geez..anyone in their right mind would have!! Right?!?!

[@patricesankara3081]

we don't know where her phone was

[@GhettoToaster85]

This timeline does not make sense

[@dishdog215]

It only takes 30 seconds to dispatch 2 unsuspecting prone victims. It only takes one well placed stab, to incapicitate a victim. It only takes 90 seconds to go from entry, to both rooms, to departure.