Idaho Murders: Suspect, house connected by digital evidence found by investigators |

[@rnbham39]

Well it didn’t really take them 7 weeks tho, they started tracking him after 2. Let’s give credit where credits is due. They just kept it on the low…real low!

[@swimpy3838]

Yep. LEO had to keep it very quiet to not tip him off, so Kohberg wouldn't try to flee the country or whatever.. I'm thinking that they were really suspicious of him when he got pulled over twice on his way back to PA. He looked quite nervous to me in the one police body-cam video.

[@jc6800]

Yup. So low people started saying it was going cold.

[@Bindismom]

And that is exactly what they should have done! What is wrong with people who can’t see that??

[@barbarawilson958]

Quiet as it should be. I'm sure all his credit cards, receipts etc will be studied for relevant purchases.

[@ashleyodom4360]

Agree. I get so tired of hearing how “all of a sudden…..”. It was all of sudden we heard about it, but these guys knew what they were doing and they did it silently and smart while being criticized over and over. These police are kick butt awesome!!!

[@hopedevoted8257]

They solved it a lot sooner than 7 weeks and they deserve a lot more credit than she’s giving them! This is real life, solving a crime in “7 weeks” is amazing! There are so many cold cases and these guys did a great job! Give them their due respect and diligence, they deserve it! EDITED TO SAY: You’re right. I used the wrong word. They haven’t solved the case yet but they found a suspect and they did a heck of a job doing it!

[@tinabailey3170]

Exactly! My Son was murdered 2005 and still nothing 😪

[@dredubz5825]

@@tinabailey3170 I’m really sorry 😢💔I hope you get justice! Lots of love and hugs to you ❤️

[@NickyAlii]

I agree, of course the ungrateful party kids family disagree and is trashing the police. Pathetic and sad. Hold your kids accountable for their actions before its too late

[@Thenextperson]

Agreed!!

[@firecat2770]

Agreed and with the whole world watching across all media and social media platforms, the pressure must have been insurmountable for all involved.Thinking of family and loved ones when following, such a a brutal, violent and abhorrent crime..Brooke from australia.

[@SarahCrowley]

With the Idaho case, part of the reliability too is that in college, when you live with lots of people, it's suppose to be safe. Safety in numbers. And it's crazy that 4 out of six people living together are murdered in a situation that we all believe would be safe because you are not alone. You have 5 other people around you. The whole safety in numbers thing goes out the window.

[@AA-cp8ry]

Stupid victims. They had no security measures in place.

[@toniasampley695]

@@AA-cp8ry what is wrong with you???

[@leahvon5905]

Sounds alot like the more people you live with, the more unsafe it is, because you don't know what type of people your roommates could be inviting into your home and finding out about what and who lives there

[@Speakupok]

They were probably drunk and didn’t have the energy to fight back and most of them were asleep too so they had no strength to fight back and then they were caught off guard!!!

[@rebeccafieldsofdreams8428]

@@AA-cp8ry more likely just young and very complacent, not really contemplating their mortality at this age!! It’s a sad crazy evil world we live in and I believe being young you just don’t realize that’s the reality we live in!! They Shouldn’t have to worry about things like this happening!! They weren’t stupid. It’s a sad situation!!!🙏🥲🥲🥹🥹🥹

[@tracymayer5519]

I'm an Alumni of the U of I and I am devastated by this situation. I have followed since the beginning as I remember those carefree days I spent there and how safe I always felt. Heartbroken for each of the victims and the terror and violence they must have experienced. And then I think of the families and friends that are going through this... 💔

[@albecky123]

This lady is so right about intelligence not equaling common sense. I went to high school with a fella who had a genius-level IQ but he could not pass the driver's test because he simply didn't have those types of skills no matter how many different people tried teaching him to drive well enough to pass the test.

[@littlemonsterpants]

I dated a dude who taught at Berkeley, had his PhD & had gone to Stanford & UCLA...... He could tell you where air originally came from but couldn't cross the street without help (not literally obviously). Zero street smarts, but impressive degrees up the asssssss!🤓

[@rocsalt956]

Yesss.. Story time! I concur that you can be incredibly educated, with zero common sense. My ex was an engineer. He cleaned out fireplace ashes and threw them in a cardboard box, and set it on our wooden deck after I went to bed. Luckily, we only had to replace the deck..

[@Heatherzrule]

Also, studying a subject doesn't mean your learning can be applied well in a real world scenario. Regardless of how well trained anyone is at any profession or topic, actually doing it is a completely different experience.

[@ms.mojo_risin]

@@rocsalt956 😂😂

[@rhighan4357]

@@rocsalt956 omg

[@kylexlittle]

My sisters lived in the house this happened in only 1 year prior. So crazy how close this whole case is to home.. Prayers for the families effected.. :(

[@keitha.563]

Wow !Did your sisters know the victims? That's insanely scary !!

[@kristymoseley9531]

that home is literally an issue for people

[@kylexlittle]

@@keitha.563 My youngest sister knew the girls personally.

[@CaptZdq1]

@@lynb2039 That was a year ago, they wouldn't have any evidence about it at all.

[@dishdog215]

@@lynb2039 LOL

[@WatersandWilderness]

I'm so heartbroken for the families and friends of those who lives were stolen from them. God, please be with the families and friends.

[@Mom2anAngel1019]

A family member of mine was murdered almost 2 years ago, by some men and we still don’t understand why. She went to help her sister, was kidnapped and tortured beyond recognition. Her body still hasn’t been released from the state of Arkansas. Shes from Arkansas and killed less then 20 miles from her home. Tara Strozier is her name. Our news barely touched on her disappearance, and murder. We know who and how but not the why. It’s hard to find the why ever. I’ve followed all kinds of true crime stories but until it was a friend of mine did any of the stories ever become real. Since reading about everything they did to her can I close my eyes without seeing what happened to her or not thinking about it.

[@keitha.563]

Sorry for your loss... 😟

[@jandccarlisle3534]

I just looked this up. I’m so very sorry. A truly heartbreaking case! I pray for healing and justice ❤️‍🩹

[@incredibleminds863]

I am so sorry for your loss 💔💔💔

[@Mom2anAngel1019]

Thank you. It’s been really hard. We are doing some events this spring to try and keep her story in the media

[@pale_saint]

Usually they supress cases where the victim is white and perps black, especially men.

[@GeneralLeia]

Love the way JB always takes time to provide context, correct or clarify any statements he’s making. Really thoughtful.

[@Franciskev2]

Simp

[@Jimboknows2112]

Yes , JB really does a great job in clarifying the points they're going over . Jennifer very professional as well .

[@williammartinez840]

The reason folks are so drawn to this case is because it is literally a horror movie come to life. And you can believe, there will be more than one movie made about this.

[@wqv5423ln]

It wouldn't surprise me if BK watched a lot of those in his lifetime. That can also open the door for demons to come into a person. Horror movies should be illegal ! Many a killer had been influenced & inspired to commit murder after watching that demonic garbage !

[@eunicewanjiru6931]

Very true william, you are right

[@eunicewanjiru6931]

Very true William, you are Right

[@ToniHunterOne]

The thing is. . .what he did to thise four lovely young people. . .could happen to anyone of us. He wasn't Ed Gein who dug up dead bodies and then went after the bartendress at the local pub, Dahmer going after mostly young gay Asian men, BTK who snagged up nearly homeless poor teenage boys by offering them labor jobs, the Green River killer targeting prostitutes. Bundy might be the closest Kohberger immulated. These were average American college kids basically living on campus like most American young adults who get to go to Uni. Well it seems he's achieved one thing. He's got the fame and the attention of a good portion of us and people from around the world wanting to know just what the hell was his end game was here. He just didn't have to do it. He didn't.

[@dani.dee4213]

they make movies about anything that gains attention in the media involving murder lmao. even smaller killers have gotten movies. we're all morbid no one out there, isnt curious. death always intrigues whether its murder or an accident. or you pretend to care or not.. sadly due to us humans they will def make this into a movie because most of us following this case would watch it lol

[@jenvaher]

I would’ve loved to have seen the look on his face when he realized he lost the sheath! Mr. smarty-pants.

[@candicandler2512]

😊

[@lareeseblaque8303]

RIGHT 😂 OH MY $#!]]

[@pompeythegreat297]

It was dark, must of fell or he forgot it

[@casparnigell5510]

He got home like "I committed the perfect crime, wow. Oh, wait. Where's the .... Oh sheath!”

[@tessylouella]

Do you really think that he dropped the sheath and just walked out with his knife in his hand, or do you think that he just stuck a big sharp bloody knife in his pocket and didn’t realize that there was no sheath? I’m wondering if he left it on purpose as a calling card thinking that he could outsmart the cops?

[@cartimandua_]

One of the girls knew she was being stalked. They all looked out for her - but didn't realise they were all being stalked and just how creepy pervy and evil he actually was.

[@ronhall5395]

It just astounds me that there were no real security on this house. I realize it us Moscow, not LA. But decent locks on the sliding glass door would have been there, especially if one of them had a stalker. I have read on another site that the police did have the ID of two suspected stalkers and both had reasonable alibis for that night.

[@carlotaestrada9869]

Lacking Empathy is Very Very Scary thing ,,, Those poor Beautiful Students ,,, God Bless the Parents 🙏

[@MaffyTaffyHaffy]

Wtf are yous saying they deserved to die

[@internetcensure5849]

"Beautiful Students" nondescript!

[@jenniegentry9344]

As a narcissist, he got what he wanted, him bein the center of attention, braggin' rights, as sick as that may sound, the focus should be on the innocent ones who lost their lives for no apparent reason, I'm sorry for the victims families, may they be remembered for how they LIVED, not how they departed... May they Rest In Peace.... Our Hearts go out to y'all...

[@mairead788-6]

Unfortunately they won't rest until this guy is behind bars for life. In order to do that the focus must be on him.

[@jlmurray9988]

It’s apparent to ME why he might’ve done it. Too bad there’s such a pitiful interface between psych & criminal justice.

[@samieD22]

It’s bec they’re going to trial and ppl hope it’s him and he goes away for that so no one else gets hurt☠️

[@starlingballet6082]

@@samieD22 KETS HOPE HES GOING AWAY FOR A LONG TIME BUT W OUR CURRENT POLITICAL SYSTEM I WOULD SURE AS HELL BE PISSED IF THE TURNED ON THAT REVOLVING DOOR. HOPEFULLY IDAHO DOESN'T SEEM TO OPERATE THAT WAY. IVE HEARD OF ANOTHER MURDER IN CALIF TODAY AND SOMETHING ABOUT ANOTHER CRIMINAL FEMALE BEING LET OUT THE SAME DAY ONLY TO BE ARRESTED A FEW DAYS LATER. SOME OF THESE PEOPLE ACTUALLY WANT TO GO TO PRISON, IT SEEMS. LETS LET EM IN!! DINT FORGET ITS WINTER OUT THERE SOME BREAK THE LAW JUST TO GET THE (3 HOTS AND A COT!) BUT PLEASE NO MURDER OR VIOLENT CRIMES!!

[@starlingballet6082]

WHAT IS W ALL THE NARCISSISM THESE DAYS. THIS GUY IS/WAS A HEROIN ADDIC 8 UNDERSTAND. THEY HAVE BEHAVIOR PATTERNS THAT ARE DYSFUNCTIONAL AS WELL TOO! I THINK THIS IS A BIG PART OF HIS PROBLEM. THEN, OK, ADD IN THE NARCISSISM AND WHAT EVER OTHER MENTAL DEFECT HE MUST BE CARRYING WITH HIM....AND THERE WE GO. DOES ANYONE KNOW HIS RELIGIOUS AFFILIATION(S) IF ANY? I HEARD HE WAS VEGAN OR VEGETARIAN NOT SURE IF FOR RELIGIOUS REASONS OR PERSONAL HEALTH REASONS ONLY OR SOME FUNKY CULT OR SUCH. JUST CURIOUS. SOME OF THESE OFF SHOOT BRANCH OFF FAITHS ARE A BIT WEIRD. LIKE KORESH- AND HIS BRANCH DAVIDIAN "CULT" CLAIMING TO BE A 7TH DAY ADVENTIST OFF SHOOT . THAT ALWAYS MAKES ME SAD TO HEAR WHEN A PERFECTLY NICE FAITH GETS A DING BECAUSE SOME ONE HAS BASTARDIZED IT AND TURNED IT INTO SOMETHING NOT EVEN RECOGNIZABLE AS HAVING ANYTHING TO DO W THE ACTUAL FAITH THE GUY MIGHT HAVE ATTENDED ONCE. NOW (THEIRS) A GUY W NARCISSISM AND A GOD COMPLEX TO BOOT. ANYWAY I AM SO VERY SORRY FOR THE FAMILIES BUT GLAD THEY R GETTING THIS THING DONE WELL AND TIMELY. I UNDERSTAND ITS HELL FOR THE FAMILIES. ANY AMNT OF TIME IS TOO LONG. I GET IT!! BUT COMPARED TO THE REST OF THE COUNTRY RIGHT NOW I'D SAY THIS LE OFFICE HAS THEIR DUCKS IN A NICE TIDY ROW. WELL RUN AND EFFICIENT!! SO FAR, SO GOOD👍👍 A LOT OF ATTEN PAYED TO THESE CASES THESE DAYS AND I SUPPOSE THEY R ALL LEARNING FROM THIS TOO. WE ALL ARE. TO BAD ABOUT THAT GUY MORRIS IN UTUBE. I HAD HOPED HE HAD LEARNED HIS LESSON.GUESS I'LL BE PULLING MY SUBSCRIPTION. CANT STAND THAT CRAP, CLUCK BAIT LYING!! ESPECIALLY WHEN IT MESSES W A CASE. NO WAY. I AM OFF OF THEIR!!?!!!!

[@idahardy4052]

Do PhD students hang out with undergrads? Look at the baby faces of the boys in the party house videos, they’re not 25-30 year olds. They’re 18-21 year olds. That’s a big difference in the friend groups.

[@queenjolie]

Not really especially in college. In a party in college. 😂 party time is party time

[@alethalassiter]

Yes. Both Pullman and Moscow are rural college towns that are fully integrated. Professors, faculty, community members, undergrads, graduate students, and PhD students all go to the same bars, dance clubs, bowling alley, etc, and even attend many of the same classes together.

[@Woodstock-53]

I totally agree most PhD students are older and not a student that parties like the 18-21 year old... well my son was a TA, PhD student and never would have time to party OR DATE for goodness sake.

[@idahardy4052]

@@alethalassiter Sure, they’re both party towns but are you really saying the professors are partying with the undergrads? That’s an ethics issue.

[@Woodstock-53]

@Aletha Lynn WRONG...my son is a college Professor in Florida and partying with the students ABSOLUTELY NOT no matter what level they are in...

[@michellegriffin2046]

Big respect for the law solving this case pretty fast. Kudos to all law enforcement involved. Thank you!!!¡!!!!!!!

[@christinaweinmangeriatrics1689]

I am following all the stories about this case. It’s such a very tragic story. My heart is broken for the families. May all they RIP

[@rvingkeepitrolling8797]

Same here.

[@elissaanne1953]

Yes its horrific...

[@circussounds855]

Yes same here. Many have been affected by this, it’s so horrible it’s hard not to cry for them.

[@nuracaicedo2632]

I've been following it since November 13th when I woke up and heard about it because he did it on my birthday...😓🙏🤲💔 which was November 12th...

[@nuracaicedo2632]

@@elissaanne1953 the suspects are always looking like they're innocent when they're really he is a clown 🤡

[@wisdomislife8080]

JB, really enjoy your news stream, and the impromptu experts that show up and add to the story with different angles…😊

[@jenniferp8317]

Never really made the connection before about why people go back to the scene and then I had my aha moment. When I have a house project usually involving cleaning or organizing, I always go back several times to look at my completed work with great satisfaction. Anyone else?

[@mk8446]

Why is she convicting him already.

[@missymeme7674]

Ok here is a new idea. Im wondering if he is calling in noise disturbances etc and then sits there and watches for the police response times. His phone keeps pinging cause he has a police scanner app on his cell and is sitting ,watching and listening to the shock and reaction of the students which he gets off on. Remember he is a behaviour watcher, he cant relate to people.... he is testing his victims prior to his hunt.

[@el34glo59]

Very possible

[@sliv70]

I disagree, they talked to neighbors and they said the house was always noisy and keeping them up at night. When you watch the body cam videos you’ll see when the police arrive the place was bumping. I think it is unrelated. Girls were just noisy is all

[@lisahale2026]

Interesting. Where does it say he is a behaviour watcher? Thanks

[@marcyc.3311]

Scoping out to see where everyone slept..that's why he didn't go to the witnesses room n thanks god he didn't. I believe he never was inside, only on the outside watching.

[@adcoriginal]

Interesting idea!

[@1truthse3ker]

This case is so disturbing 💔the brutality and the fact that these poor innocent children were slaughtered in their sleep so brutally💔😭

[@COMPUTER.SCIENCE.]

If this and mass shootings, don't get Death Penalty, then I don't know what will!

[@JuCarlos-ex8ip]

Some people are just pure evil is scary 😨

[@shelleywilliams115]

Even more horrific is the fact that it appears Xana was awake!💔💔💔💔🙏🙏🙏🙏

[@alloralou4722]

@@tonystevenson26 yes they did, and when I was their age I did too. I’m 60 years old and I often say young people are children. They are to me. But you are right, they are adults.

[@user-il9cy3jr5k]

So she heard people talking in their sleep, neighbors were calling police about loud music consistently and wet actually in back 40 that night? Nope not buying any of this.

[@alikat1053]

Dana Smithers is missing from Pocanos PA from May 28th, 2022. Bryan Kohberger left the Pocanos for washington state approximately 2nd week of June 2022. I really think it should be looked into

[@thedragonlee76]

Just wait.When serial killers are caught,Police Detectives and FBI will interview him to try to understand him.They'll also try to determine if he had more victims.

[@alikat1053]

@@thedragonlee76 Totally agree!!

[@lisasmith7066]

Living in the Poconos with a long ago opiate issue she might have crossed paths with him. How do people, esp with young children up and disappear and nothing is done about it? This lady’s purse, cell phone and car keys were untouched in her house.

[@weldingjunkie]

She was last seen 7 months ago he was in school probably wasn’t him but who knows

[@tammyhughes5918]

How do you know he was in class and didn't come home Welby

[@amybrooks6438]

Not quite the same, but my granddaughters father was stabbed 64 times by his girlfriend. It's been 6 months and we are still waiting for answers. This case is horrific like ours and I hope they do as good a job as this case. Joey was a great guy and I loved him dearly. You just can't imagine what his mother is going through. It's aweful. Thanks for reading.

[@keitha.563]

Ughh sounds heartbreaking

[@bonnienero9415]

prayers for all

[@amybrooks6438]

@@bonnienero9415 Thank you.

[@jillijane9793]

Oh how horrible. I lost my son at age 26 and it remains heartbreaking and devastating, but I can't imagine how awful it is to lose someone in such a brutal manner. I still wonder if my son was scared as he passed, but to know your loved one's last moments were so terrifying

[@amybrooks6438]

@JilliJane So sorry for your loss. Life stinks sometimes. God has held us and He will continue. I pray the same for you and your family. God bless you.

[@CMinorOp67]

14:25: it makes no sense that he would return, 5 hours after the crime, in the daytime, to retrieve the sheath. I feel he went back to witness the chaos he created…and was shocked when he saw nothing happening. Seems like he would have immediately gone back for the sheath, after the crime, if that was his purpose for returning. Not wait until daytime. Or…when he returned and saw there were no cops there…why didn’t he go in for the sheath, if that was his goal?

[@lisahale2026]

If and it is a big if he was going back for the sheath perhaps he didn't realise or it didn't click that he didn't have it until then but yea why make the journey if didn't go back in. Bottled it maybe. All specualtion to the max, of course

[@casparnigell5510]

Agreed. He would have been the world's most idiotic criminal if he had ventured into the house to retrieve the sheath. Even I don't think he's that dumb, though he sure if dumb.

[@laurachristopherson9882]

Totally agree. Im sure he knew sheath was missing as he walked thru the kitchen. He needed sheath to conceal the knife as he walkdd to car. Decision simple. Figured sheath was wiped down already. Wore gloves no fingerprints or dna to incriminate him. Too risky to search for it DM might've called 911 already. Most likely adhering to plan to be in house no longer than 10 min max. (To beat MPD response time. MPD prob does shift chg at 4 or 4:30 am) This hypothesis would explain leaving sheath behind. AND walking past DM. Already exceeded timeframe. Each addtl minute increases probability of getting caught. He wouldve considered many different scenarios and their probable outcome in planning stage and plotted his course. Purely speculation.

[@susannewton795]

Killers often return to the scene to see the aftermath of their handiwork. Sick stuff but it's what they do.

[@MrRaven2]

@@susannewton795 True. They are curious to see what the cops are doing also. Scott Peterson spied on the cops searching for Lacy Peterson's body. It's obsessive interest and curiosity.

[@albecky123]

People that do this type of crime don't feel empathy because they can't feel empathy....

[@kelliedougherty4041]

They have a journal of his when he was younger stated he does not feel empathy for anyone & has no normal feelings for his family.

[@elizagrogan9454]

@Kellie dougherty I'm not surprised. I know what triggers my empathy. I could never smack my child. I would have been too sad to see her cry. We discussed things. I cry watching weddings and funerals. Sad movies leave me blubbering. I'm often embarrassed. How any human could inflict such injuries on 4 lovely young people, is beyond my understanding.

[@mzlee333]

@@elizagrogan9454yes . It is. Beyond mine also. Our brains do not work that way. His does.

[@alethalassiter]

There are lots of people who have troubled childhoods that don’t commit murder. There is also no official diagnosis that he has empathy deficit disorder, or psychopathy. Public opinion is not a licensed psychologist.

[@bethharriman5750]

In all of these videos of Brian, he doesn’t look upset with the situation he has found himself in. He almost looked like he’s enjoying it, studying it, looking and watching everything that’s going on around him.

[@lisahale2026]

How so?

[@jenniferalvarado19]

I absolutely agree. This is just the prelude to his show.

[@dennisvaldis]

Agree.

[@joeb-5150]

If you've been following this case, people that know him say he's never showed much emotion and he's definitely a narcissist, pretty sure he thought he'd never get caught

[@sdriza]

he's loving it - the whole country knows his name and is talking about him

[@NothingHalfAsked]

Now in the State's objection to change of venue they are stating that the PCA states that Kohberger was actually IN THE VICINITY OF THE TOWER 12X NOT AT THE HOUSE!? Why all the misleading info from prosecution? He didnt stalk anyone, now he was only near the Tower not the house 12x, he never ate at Mad Greek, he didnt stalk ANY of the victims....what is the case then!? Are the people of Idaho ok with all the lies and are they safe? This is crazy.

[@ranireiter8710]

The Gabby Petito case had my attention from the start not only because it's tragic and heartbreaking, but I'm in Wyoming. Other than tourist being less than brilliant with the wildlife and hot springs and the 100 year flood last spring we are hardly ever news worthy.. Plus I'm a mother myself so when Gabby was first said to be missing you follow closely thinking she might be in the area I'm in and to pay extra attention. When it comes to the Idaho murders, my oldest daughter will be leaving for college. This is not only every parent's worst nightmare but of course I want to know the motive because that could have been my daughter. More importantly I want to see these families get justice for Kaylee, Maddie, Ethan and Xana. Gabby's family never got justice when Brian took his own life like coward. I agree that these types of stories are very relatable these day's because murders are increasing daily.. I've been watching true crime stuff for year's and it's not about fascination, it's about the victim's and the families and the justice they receive. And when you watch these video's or study cases you take knowledge from it and maybe you will have to use that one day to protect your kid's or pass stuff onto your kid's so they have that knowledge.

[@mc26collum]

Both cases, the fathers are the key. They know and in on it too.

[@jenleigh342]

@@mc26collum Sorry but I whole heartedly disagree that Kohbergers dad KNEW. I think that his parents KNEW that he was odd and messed up but nope, his dad HAD NO IDEA. Remember that is their child....

[@blazingstar9638]

@@mc26collum how so?

[@wildflower1397]

I agree that it is not always about a fascination with horrific crimes. I suspect that a lot of true crime fans have a fantasy world where they notice tiny details, foil criminals, save themselves, or are heroes to other victims. They watch true crime to help them protect themselves and others. :)

[@govindagovindaji4662]

I suggest you read and buy your daughter a copy of "The Gift of Fear" ~ it is an excellent book that helps show us all how our original "gut feelings" are almost always correct and how to pay more attention to them.

[@randeephantom355]

Wow...Life is too short for all of us. Such monsters exist which make me wonder how close they are to us. Lord help us all.

[@witchy6978]

Be wary of teaching assistants. A small percentage of them are unstable.

[@veeherreraJanecka]

When he was on his way to PA with his dad he passed through my home town - talk about being close to this monster. So scary because we have no shortage of these devils. Glad they caught this guy. My love to the families of Ethan , Xana , Maddison and Kayla 🙏🏽🕊

[@veeherreraJanecka]

@@witchy6978 A small percentage of all human s are like this. They come in all kinds and from all demographics.

[@witchy6978]

@@veeherreraJanecka yeh but ta's come into contact with young people and have the power to abuse them

[@chicosmummy]

Statistically your more likely to be offed by someone you know.

[@socialbutterfly4146]

I can see the look on Jennifer’s face. She knows some of the heinous details of this case. It’s written all over her face💔. She is very disturbed by this. I appreciate your empathy on this Jennifer. I appreciate your seriousness when discussing this tragedy. It’s Revolting how some of these channels or creators or reporters are all smiling and happy when discussing this horrific case. I respect the seriousness you both put in to your reports. Thank you🙏

[@Daniel-yd7mx]

Silly to believe she has some kind of insider information

[@paitesmith9133]

No she DOES NOT. She is on every single news program that will have her and she doesn’t know anything more than any other sleuth that’s been following the coverage. She’s got no inside track. In fact, she said when the case had seemed to get cool that she knew the police had nothing bc if they had, they would have come out w it. WRONG. They DID know about Bryan back in November!!! They spent all that time confirming what they knew!!! Jennifer knows nothing more than the rest of us. She’s in this for exposure bc she’s out of the FBI. Staying involved in this case is fine but she doesn’t know any more than the rest of the public. She’s not a consultant and has no inside track.

[@70zenboy]

I think that disturbed look is actually the Botox.

[@Daniel-yd7mx]

@@paitesmith9133 exactly

[@sethstine4698]

@@70zenboy yep

[@jillijane9793]

If he thinks he is so smart, and studied criminology you would think that he would have the sense to turn his phone off and not leave a knife sheath

[@marshademing9916]

I think he's writing a book in his head. The title is: " How I committed murder and got away with it." He doesn't think like a normal person. He's watching this all play out and actually thinks he will get away with it and is smarter than everyone else.

[@mairead788-6]

@@tonystevenson26 she knows that

[@jameseverett4976]

would be interesting if it turned out that way: he get's off on a technicality, which he had set up somehow already, and cannot be tried twice for the same crime. Maybe he has set a trap that is yet to spring, and all the media hype contributes to an eventual 'unexpected' problem with the DA's case. With all the laws that favor criminals we have now, he could easily have set up some way to do it.

[@dinamarshalek1195]

Why? I think because this hits home to so many people who have family members, friends, partners end up in hands of monsters like this one and they all want to know how s*it like this happen and how they are supposed to move on from it. It’s a heartbreaking tragedy. Most of us we’d never understand what’s inside these monsters’ heads. I think he was doing some sort of a school project for himself, i.e., to see how it feels to be on the other, dark side. He’s a disgusting narcissist without any sense of remorse. RIP beautiful people.

[@mrsmartypants_1]

He wasn’t a narcissist. He thought he was a loser, a nothing, for most of his life.

[@shyramecole5574]

Psychopath. Narcissist can actually have a little empathy.

[@Natalee956]

@@mrsmartypants_1 lol are you sure about that

[@dumbdonny4824]

@Mr Smartypants that only further proves the point cuz marcasite narcissists don't actually like themselves. They hate themselves and project they're self hatred into others. But he is more than a narcissist. He is a sociopath.

[@mrsmartypants_1]

@@Natalee956 Yes. There are hours and hours of vids, social media posts, a self-help group Bryan belonged to of folks who suffer from “visual snow”, etc… from his high school days, undergraduate years. This is well documented.

[@beverlyward2570]

You always are so thorough JB. I always enjoy watching your segments.

[@publikenemi49]

This is a great analytical show, I just wish they could put in some different file footage on the loop

[@vinniediaz6829]

I think he went back because he'd been waiting for the thrill of discovery and could not believe they hadn't been discovered.

[@LetItBeSummer-1]

I sure hope they found the killer’s DNA on more than just the sheath. 🙏

[@rvingkeepitrolling8797]

Yeah me too.

[@bagelthebeagle7359]

I’m sure they do!

[@nahlasencounters8034]

I would think it's on sheets bedding an etc

[@internetcensure5849]

If the victims' DNAs were not found in his car or his belongings, after so much blood loss, it raises a serious doubt.

[@MiaMarie420]

Her dad also said that she had been saying that she felt like some guy was following her but she never reported it. Probably rejection?!?

[@jocelyncams1826]

He wasn’t following Kaylee. He was after xana and Maddie. Ethan and Kaylee just so happened to be there

[@nancywages7029]

I think like you. He made a comment to some guy in a bar.....I can have any woman that I want....which I think is not true...

[@glxrix]

@@nancywages7029 where did you get that info?

[@moa8121]

@@nancywages7029 I remember hearing that statement about him saying that’ I can have any woman’; and this statement should be used as evidence against him by the prosecution team.

[@Fromtheearttothemoon]

Yes he did says that I remember to read that somewhere

[@annanikia7949]

Jennifer Coffindoffer is such a good resource and excellent collaborator/analyst in your program.

[@fredbloggs8369]

Hey JB - I think you're just great. Gotta love the world wide web - watching from Canberra, Australia and really impressed by your reporting on this horrific case.

[@dawnsegura6548]

Why aren’t you covering the Shanquella Robinson case. It is just as relatable.

[@dsoule4902]

Do you want someone to say bc she was black?

[@cynthiafortier2540]

Yes, we need to see justice for her and her family too!!

[@brandoncooke6564]

@@cynthiafortier2540 Sure, I don't disagree at all. Everyone deserves justice. But this kind of seems like a stretch for OP to say it is equally "relatable". One, I don't know that I really relate to this case at all. How can I? How could most people? I'm more just perplexed as to how something like this can occur. Secondly, this occurs literally all the time with missing persons cases, multiple homicides, even school shootings. I don't claim to know why, but there is seemingly no rhyme nor reason as to why certain cases interest the public or get way more press coverage and why others don't. For example, you would think only one woman (Gabby Petito) went missing in the last couple years or suffered a horrible end at the hands of an abuser based on national interest/news. But no, I am quite certain Gabby wasn't even the only young white woman from Florida that met the end she did. So what made her different? Who knows? It isn't unfair. It just.. is what it is. Lastly, four definite murders>one suspicious death. Sorry.

[@dawnsegura6548]

@@dsoule4902 Maybe you do with that comment. I never brought race into the equation, you did! I’m just curious as to why her case isn’t getting more coverage, as it should.

[@dsoule4902]

@@dawnsegura6548 Everyone knows what "relatable" means in woke-speak, right? I agree with you that Shanquella's case is horrible, and should be covered. It's despicable what those "friends" did to her. Horrendous. Vile. Sadly, just like the lesbian who murdered her wife's bio-child, MSM doesn't like to show individuals from protected classes as the offenders.

[@shannonmiller6716]

Based on what we know of him so far I don’t think he will tell the “ why” in court. He knows that is the answer everyone really wants. I think it will give him a false sense of power to refuse to tell🤷‍♀️. Given that he is trying to plead not guilty I just don’t think it will come out during the trial. I wonder if once convicted he might brag and talk in prison and we might find out the “ why” that way.

[@twebb6152]

He went there 12 times because he was studying their behaviors and habits. He was stalking them. This is most likely the stalker that Kaylee had mentioned to a few people. Also, in my mind the DNA has nailed him.

[@lisahale2026]

Where the source he was studying them? Nit heard that before

[@samanthacurl2640]

Look Lady Sherlock spitting bullcrap . Get a life

[@MacBigUSA]

He was also stalking them on IG, TikTok, FB, etc. The girls put themselves out there on social media for a degenerate like Kohlberger to easily stalk them.

[@Stephanie-kt9vh]

I think he was jealous of Maddie and Kaylee. He despised their bond and the fact he couldn't get I to their world, he couldn't be one of their 'man' and they were more interested in one another as friends and 'sisters' they hugged each other and not him, and I think that was part of his issue. Why not him? Just my thoughts.

[@lisah9561]

Some of you people are crazy. You speak with such authority on a situation you have no clue about “HE sTuDIEd ThEm” “He wAs JeAloUs” You know, the smart thing is to wait for evidence and then decide.

[@cathymann6917]

JB, you are so professional and have such a nice broadcast voice.. I am following this case through you.

[@Lynn.Panadero4242]

My guess on motive: Bryan moves to WA in June. He goes to a local bar in Pullman, WA where Kaylee celebrates her 21st birthday. As she is a regular at this establishment, follows her home, then keeps tabs on her over the summer and fall. So says the internet.

[@dedrathomas9222]

You have to wonder how many times he surveyed inside the house. He seemed to know the inside of the house really well.

[@Mcgovern124]

Craigslist killer was also a doctor student, no prior criminal record, etc etc.

[@weldingjunkie]

We had Craig price here in the 90’s brutal he’s still in prison

[@Heseesyou]

And they call all these guys so intellectual and smart with their degrees.. they are the bottom of smart and are very wicked.

[@AFloridaSon]

I say he thought about murder since at least his teen years. His interest in it got him into studying serial killers, which led him into criminology. I believe he was looking for a victim when he spotted at least one of the girls from King Road. I can only speak from watching true crime, but in revenge killings, the murderer will usually want the victims to know why, and will want the victim to feel regret. He couldn't get into their heads by speed killing them. BK just wanted to kill. Possibly, not a single one of them met him, and never knew he existed until that night. He got in and out with only time to kill and escape.

[@ronniemead805]

These girls and boy represent the beautiful people who had ostracize and bullied him in high school. His anger and rage had been marinating since high school.

[@stantondavid4435]

Except the cops weren’t called for 8 hours so he coulda took all day

[@hakimbandaru1915]

Beautiful people?? You must be blind,, all of them were average looking and apparently not very bright to have so many strangers coming and going at all hours.

[@2028end]

@@stantondavid4435 I'm sure that little tidbit is KILLING him in his mind as he rots in his jail cell.

[@katealeksen4168]

No he pinged there because he was buying drugs from the security guard of the Uni who was a creep and left alone in his car with the knife while Bryan left him because the guard was creeping the house (it's a trap house, they have a huge drugs problem, related to the Christ Church cult). They used the knife to part the doses. There was more than one killer and the guard joined in because he was a pig and used the knife. Bryan went down for this but the psychos who did this are at lose thinking they can do as they please. This is all stupid

[@sask4453]

JB you got it so right when it comes to Gabby Petito, the Delphi murders, the Idaho student murders, and Anna Walshe, I like many others find it so so hard to understand why someone would do this, Why? It is so so shocking you want to follow what happens, show support to the victim's families because it could have been anyone of us, anyone we love, anyone we know whether that be sister, daughter, mother, father, brother, friend or colleague. It is hard to wrap your head around it that these crimes have occured, it hurts to see this going on no matter where in the world it takes place. You think about how afraid these victims were, you think about how they could have escaped, who could have helped them, why they did not cry out. There is so much you think about, like how the parents are coping, what they must be going through, you want to see justice prevail for them all. Because many of us have a conscience, care, and feel for people who suffer terrible crime and we carry out thoughts for their families and those that loved and cared about them. It proves there is still caring people in the world who show compassion to people they never knew or met, our world is not all bad when you read the comments from others who care about strangers and it gives you hope too to know we still have a large crowd of good hearts left to keep our world from descending into total evil!!!

[@sandilou2U]

It's interesting how it becomes even more haunting when you consider each of the cases you identified are sharply different. Petito was most likely because Laundrie snapped, Delphi was most likely orchestrated and sexually driven, Idaho was most likely the birth of a serial killer, and Walshe was most likely out of fear of divorce regardless of whether it was driven by jealousy or greed. Each of these cases demonstrate that there is a potential threat in every aspect of our lives... lover, neighbor, stranger.

[@jenleigh342]

Absolutely! Please never forget that MOST PEOPLE ARE GOOD AT HEART! 👍🙏🤩🤩🥰😍💋💕💕💙

[@bulldogmomx2901]

Also, my heart goes out to the first responders who see this depravity daily. ❤

[@gabesmom29]

Also because most people couldn’t even imagine the evil things that are done to others. The horror is so beyond,that we really don’t even have words to fully comprehend the evil and actions. Even if you watch horror movies, it’s disgusting and disturbing but your mind can process that better because you know it is only a movie. Although it does ( or should) gives us pause on what kind of mind can come up with that stuff.

[@PeterpanSyndrome_]

How confusing it must have been for the murder to drive by the house hours after he commited these murders, and not see cops, or any activity at the house. Nothing on the news, TV, radio, social media, etc. He must have been wondering if he dreamt the entire murder spree. As if nothing happened at all from 4am-11am. Finally reported 8 hours later.

[@sydneymartin7638]

Excellent research, discussion and presentation. 👍🏻👍🏻

[@rebeccam5338]

I truly believe if he didn’t get caught the killing would of continued…I would like to why? What was his motives, and how did he end up taking 4 lives kn one house. That is scary…my prayers and condolences to the family of the victim’s family.

[@4thamendment237]

There are a lot of different kinds of people in this world. Some of them, like psychopaths, see human life differently. They see other people only as animate creatures, that's all. Have you ever squashed a bug or spider or swatted a mosquito or a fly and killed them? See, that wasn't so hard, right? You were indifferent about ending their lives and in fact were probably happy that you had eliminated that annoyance. So just extrapolate that to people. If killing people doesn't bother you any more than swatting a fly, then it's really not a problem to kill people. That's one thing that makes psychopaths psychopaths.

[@patrickhaag3352]

He may have killed before.

[@samieD22]

Yeah… Hope trial explains. I think it’s free will. A lot of ppl are guessing that he was on the track to be a SK bc it seems at random and he hunted them. But also, he seemed to be in a field where you’re supposed to be helping victims but he used all of his knowledge for the opposite.

[@tabasco260]

*would have continued

[@Mom2anAngel1019]

I believe he would of done this again if not caught. I believe that “study” he did on line is one of the reasons he did this

[@AFloridaSon]

As for the car, if LE had a criminologist in their sight, but they wanted people to review their cameras looking for a specific type of car, it could be that they wanted the public to look for any car that matched BK's, but didn't want to spook him too much, so they told the public the wrong year to help him feel like they're not looking for him.

[@sunshine22723]

Except turn the fact LE was asking individuals who owned 2011-2013 white elantra to come forward. He owned a 2015 instead.

[@LetItBeSummer-1]

@@sunshine22723That’s his point.

[@anon-lo6ik]

I'll make a wager that there were 22000 '11-'16 Elantras on the road. :)

[@riccocool]

They all look the same

[@pattyolson3842]

​@@anon-lo6ik In that area, Eastern Washington / Western Idaho???

[@Boo-jy5ju]

Why would the sheath be in "the wooded area"? He got into the car and drove off FAST!

[@shortcakecanadiangirl4722]

This is a terrible and tragic situation. My heart goes out to all the families. I hope what we can learn from this is to educate your kids if they are planning to go to College or University and live outside of the home! Educate them! That doesn’t mean they will listen or comply but educate them! Do researcn the school. Past history of of the resident, sorority, fraternity. Don’t share passcodes to the house. Ensure you have a lock and security camera on your bedroom door. Don’t be so trusting! Don’t put yourself in risky situations! Be aware. Be informed.

[@lisahale2026]

They were young adults, in a small town asleep on their own beds. How is this about their so called irresponsibility.

[@lorimiller4301]

@@lisahale2026 No one said they were irresponsible. The original poster said to warn your children about safety. You were the one that brought that up, not her. It wasn't their fault, they were home and expected to be safe. Unfortunately, sometimes we're not safe even at home in our beds. Do everything you can to keep yourself safe. Make sure of all you can, lights, cameras, locks. Don't leave it up to chance.

[@ms.mojo_risin]

I agree with The Dad…The Girl’s and Ethan…They Did Everything Right. When they went out, they were together, when they left the corner club, they were chaperoned by a Male Friend. He chaperoned the girls all the way to the grub truck and a known friend picked them up in his private car and took them home safe. *they all may have even had their doors locked to the bedrooms, … he could’ve got in by knocking on the door, waking one of the victims or possibly knew how to get around the bock, I don’t know. Peace&Respect, Shelley

[@WonLotto100M]

If criminals would just allow everyone else to live a fulfilling life, there’ll be no need for all that education; besides those kids already excelled…. They went to university. I understand what you’re saying about teaching them self and situational awareness….. there’s nothing they did wrong here to be slaughtered by a perverted voyeur. PS: he is presumed innocent until prove guilty. 😉

[@lillieberger2883]

@@lisahale2026kids feel safe and do things like forget to lock doors, windows, share the keyless code to the door with friends, have big parties and invite everyone, let complete strangers in. Can’t even count how many times I’ve told my kids to lock the doors and have found them unlocked, drives me nuts. It’s not their fault that some sicko did this, but the poster was just saying drill it into your kids head to practice safety measures.

[@Americansiciliangirl]

The Laundrys need to take responsibility for what their son did to that girl . they need to humble themselves and pay these people and ask forgiveness otherwise they're going to have bad karma the rest of their freaking lives

[@GoRose]

They actually need to go to jail for life, no possibility of parole. They covered for their son, disgusting. They would not do well in jail, living the rest of their lives locked up, probably in solitary confinement due to the publicity of the case, would be the best justice. In a cell 23 hours a day, out of it 1 hour. Oh, unless their part of the jail goes on lockdown. They could be stuck in their tiny cell for DAYS!!!!

[@justgus5150]

I don't believe Brian is dead, I'D LOVE THEM TO FIND HIM. however his dad has connections to LE

[@barneyronnie]

He ( Laundrie) was an ugly, bald, pathetic and insecure loser who was dating a girl completely out of his league; his fear of losing her drove him insane ...

[@Codered810]

Imo they deserve bad karma for the rest of their lives. They should have cooperated. They could still love their son without condoning his actions. He needed to take responsibility for his actions not take the cowards way out. With help from them!!!! I could never help my child end his life no matter the circumstances!!!! Karma is deserved for that in itself!! The rest goes without saying.

[@1956soulmate]

@americangirlprincepessa5929 Are you a parent? I'm guessing not and that you are young. You might gain more understanding when you're a parent.

[@Stephanie-kt9vh]

Imagine the shock when he came back, expecting to see total chaos and the fall out of his 'handi work' to see NOTHING! The confusion would have had to of been insane... What?? Where is everyone, what in the world, why isn't total chaos happening, did this really happen, he would of had to of been stunned .

[@hulamei3117]

Exactly!!

[@joralemonvirgincreche]

No, there's no "of." Would have had to have been stunned. Or better, just he probably would have been stunned. Why do teens make this error all the time?

[@poodledaddles1091]

Yes! So many unexpected variables occurred ( door delivery at onset) kaylee not in her normal room, xena awake, Ethan staying over, dog starts barking) and he still pulls off these murders in rapid speed and nearly undetected.

[@XRROW_]

Jennifer is so awesome! And watching JB getting brought to the forefront over the last couple of years! Wow 👌 it's fantastic

[@katiesioux7757]

I think that he wanted to feel important, feel something. Now he is feeling important

[@williamthompson9969]

I don’t care how smart you are, a lot of people just don’t realize that a single person acting alone is never smarter than the collective wisdom of trained professionals, many who are extremely bright , who are collectively acting as one mind will almost always outweigh the efforts of one extremely bright but wicked man!

[@internetcensure5849]

"a single person acting alone is never smarter than the collective wisdom of trained professionals" Dumb speculators, nothing more.

[@Me-xoxoz]

Not having a criminal record just means not being caught yet, operating below the radar. Ex was arrested when his DNA matched the DNA on the database captured three years ago in a different state. That sent a chill down my spine because it meant there was a possibility that he got away with stuff before his DNA was in the database while we were together.

[@user-il9cy3jr5k]

Uh wrong.

[@gwenyoung8969]

The TV show DEXTOR COMES TO MIND

[@Me-xoxoz]

@@gwenyoung8969 l will look it up thankx

[@kimberly4U]

Bryan is so spooky looking and his eyes scare the crap out of me!

[@jackiewildman8387]

I think he had a crush on one of the girls. And when she rejected him he killed her then continued on. They said one of the girls had more damage than the rest.

[@kevinbarber7640]

Another reason, at least that I have noticed, are that they are genuine people and are attractive. I hate to say it, but just what I have noticed. My heart goes out to all who have lost such young loved ones!

[@alethalassiter]

There are thousand of indigenous and women of color who have been murdered and are missing that media and public opinion has not spent two seconds worrying about.

[@internetcensure5849]

"are genuine people and are attractive." nondescript college students like millions of them in the USA.

[@1956soulmate]

What do you mean by genuine people? How do you know? And attractive? They seemed more like over confident, very social and liked to post provocative pictures of themselves.

[@sooweeq123]

It's my understanding that pings are general, not specific to an exact address or street, but in a potential nearby area dependent on which tower was picking-up the signal?

[@dirtydingus5465]

I think most are also over looking a main point. This would be the age me maturity difference. At BEST you have seniors at that house in early 20’s. The suspect is 28! And his advanced education. He would have no business for being there at all! Looking at the police video of past visits to the “Party House” and see the type of youth there? The suspect would stand out like a sore thumb! The age difference is huge at this time.

[@MrRaven2]

Agree that girls that age do not party with 28 year olds not to mention BK is not the partying type, he has no friends and is very socially awkward.

[@nancylpr]

I don’t believe there can be a “motive” in a crime like this. How can you say there was a reason to do a thing like this?

[@klin862]

Incel belief system

[@makinlemonaide]

I think his motive was that he wanted to be smarter than everybody else therefore he wanted to commit the perfect crime and get away with it so that he could graduate with an AA! But guess what Brian you get an F because you failed!

[@mse7501]

They are looking into 3 to 4 other murders too.

[@leagarner3675]

Nah, I think he's driven to control.

[@mse7501]

No wonder other young ladies thought he was creepy.

[@amills9261]

I really think that it is a plausible scenario, Khoburger wanted to act out homicides to prove he is superior, he knows all about crime, evidence, smarter than detectives…

[@guadalupesalgado5604]

I think he's gonna go free..he's smart !! You think he really forgot the sheath?

[@bonniekoenig377]

🙏🙏to the family of these young beautiful adults. Couldn’t imagine going through such a loss😭

[@christinemarciano3269]

Thanks for all your great reporting JB!!

[@desireeclaire2044]

Two things- some of those times he went near the victims house were in the morning when the victims would likely be waking up to attend work or class, so let's hope none of the jury buy whatever story the defense dreams up about BK going to or near the victims home so much. I've always thought he was checking their comings and goings and how often friends slept over. Knowing who all lives in the home regularly and how often they have an over night guest is all part of planning his attack. One additional thought is that it helps that neighbor's see his car in the area often so that when he commits the murders and the police ask if any suspicious vehicles in the area- his vehicle is familiar in the area and would not be considered suspicious to anyone. He never planned to leave DNA and I thank God he did. It will be interesting to know all of the evidence they have against him when this plays out in court.

[@PinkoCane]

The evidence against him is little to nothing. That’s why they are digging into social media; to find something they can say is related. So if he liked a photo of someone in the house…that makes him guilty? So far they’re doing a great job of releasing just enough so he seems guilty and crazy to the public. His car was near by a few times…so that makes him guilty? The tiny dab of DNA doesn’t mean shit either. They never said it was blood. So touch DNA. which is bogus. I could shake your hand, then you choke someone, but my DNA will be found on their neck too. He coulda opened it at a store or at a friend’s house. Is there evidence that he purchased or owned that sheath? So far they have a dollop of DNA(probably just touch which is flimsy). An eye witness account of a tall guy, wearing a mask, in the dark(also flimsy). His car and/or phone being in the area(so what? I myself might’ve drove by there a few times). And social media posts(completely unrelated) that they are offering up to the public to make him look crazy to everyone (purely circumstantial). I hope he walks. And then he and Kyle Rittenhouse, together, become advocates against using slander and liable by the media to convict people

[@CaptZdq1]

In the court of public opinion it's guilty until proven innocent, which is logical because 90% of accused people are guilty, and the public goes by the evidence, which usu. points to guilt. However, the evidence can be misinterpreted, and in this case it points to a frame. Someone as smart as him would not make such stupid mistakes. He makes a good patsy because of his oddities, and he was obviously set up. The case looks too suspiciously like many other cases of serial killers or mass murders, where patsies are used. See Programmed to Kill by David McGowan, Ultimate Evil by Terry Maury, and The Phoenix Program and The CIA as Organized Crime by Douglas Valentine and see also Russ Dizdar (who predicted the current exponential increase in mass murders in the US) and Mae Brussell, etc. Before I thought he was a programmed killer. Of course, this will be rejected outright bcz it's a claim of conspiracy, just like the idea that he had an accomplice, n there are no conspiracies according the fascistic, criminally insane CIA (and its mostly left-wing supporters), which has a long and sordid history of conspiracies. The profile of a serial killer or mass murderer is one of programmed killing, controlled patsies, or SSRI-victim. That's indisputable. Organized crime is usu. behind such horrible acts, and that organized crime is CIA fronts like military entities, psychiatric institutions, and Satanic cults. Kohberger may have been named for Wm. J. Bryan, CIA-connected hypnotist, and his father was in the military, so they may have known of him from there. Before the CIA, going back to at least the Middle Ages, it was also organized crime, mostly depraved elitists, behind serial killers. People, mostly leftists, protect organized crime by being in denial of conspiracies and smearing the opponents of conspiracies. Coffindaffer iasn't going to admit the CIA is behind it because she received awards from the CIA, and the FBI is sometimes behind conspiracies itself. And it's abnormal extraverts who are anti-social, bcz they lack inhibitions and sensibilities, n there are no intraverted symptoms in anti-social personality/sociopathy/psychopathy--they are externalizing disorders, introverts have internalizing disorders.

[@AndySalinger33]

Here’s a fun game: every time a so called “expert” or news boy says “affidaviD” ending with a D, take a drink.

[@t.j.5044]

It is the Jury's job to believe all the defendant says, except what the prosecution proves untrue. The burden of proof is on the prosecution, not the defence. If the prosecution can not prove, "whatever story the defence dreams up" is false, then the jury must side with the defence. That is the law.

[@schmarpsywinkleurnklabean659]

@@t.j.5044 ur hi dood

[@carolethorn3211]

I think he may have first encountered one of the girls on Instagram or tic tok or whatever. With what all people put on social media these days - videos of themselves at home and everywhere else. You could think you really know someone you've never even met. And then he simply got the address and actually watched through windows to see the REAL PEOPLE. So he fixated on this group of girls and they became the perfect target for his outrageous desire to create a horror story that he could then stand back and observe all of the trauma / drama he created. I also think his father may have had suspicions - considering the white car and the proximity of the crime and knowing his strange son, which may be why he chose to fly out to Washington and ride back with his son to Pennsylvania. Instead of Bryan flying round trip for the holidays. His dad HAD to wonder. He needed to see for himself how his son was living. He hoped to possibly glean some kind of clues.

[@patcurran957]

I agree, the dad knew something was up.

[@Lorac1234]

They have reported that the father’s plans to fly out and drive back with him were made months before.

[@shelleywilliams115]

He claims he's Vegan and I believe there's a vegan restaurant there that Maddie and Xana worked at. The Mad Greek? He may have ran into them there.

[@shelleywilliams115]

@@tonystevenson26 Good to know. I had not heard that. Honestly, this has mentally and physically exhausted me. Probably going to take a break until the hearing instead of trying to figure everything out. It's just so horrific!💔🙏

[@coyotedust]

I thought it was strange that A: The dad would volunteer to fly out West than ride back 3,000 miles with his son. B. I thought it was really suspicious that the Dad brought up a mass shooting, while they were talking to the cop.

[@johnward8064]

I love Jennifer’s analysis.

[@Lightworkers.]

Regarding knowledge of the house. This was student accommodation available online to see the exact layout and images showing the rooms. He could have studied these and the 12 visits could have been reconnaissance to see who slept where.

[@mireillemichel7638]

Hey JB thank you for bringing Ms koffendoffer on, the two of you give great insight

[@annemariemchugh4341]

This is a horrible crime. Love and best wishes to families of Zana Ethan kelleigh and Maddie xxxx

[@nickbrown6694]

You'd think after 2 months people would have the respect to at least spell their names correctly

[@0warami_7oo]

@@nickbrown6694 now they yar tou dum nowodayz, smaret peepol karnt spell enyfink

[@Hollypenopepper]

​@@annemariemchugh4341Google it, dumba$$.

[@annemariemchugh4341]

Troll

[@annemariemchugh4341]

@@nickbrown6694 spell them so if you so concerned.

[@tiannakester3422]

You really think that he would go back to the scene of the crime in his car, that should have blood evidence in it still due to his supposed crime he just committed? Did anyone see him washing his car or cleaning his car out vigorously that morning? There absolutely should be evidence of the 4 students blood in his vehicle, if he did this crime. Why aren't they saying anything about any blood evidence inside his vehicle? Because HE DIDN'T DO IT!

[@eli3568]

As someone working towards an advanced degree, just the fact that he got accepted to a PhD program DOES NOT, in anyway, necessarily indicate an exceptional level of intelligent.

[@Nancy-mz2eh]

I haven't heard anyone say that they saw him at a party, walking the streets, talking to someone in a dark corner. If he was looking for something to do or meet he would have gotten out and walked up to someone. I would presume the "shopping" hours were over when he was there. It points directly to stalking.

[@alethalassiter]

Something people don’t realize is that BK is vegan and relatively new to the Pullman-Moscow area. A popular eatery in the area for vegans is a place called Mad Greek, that is nearby to the victims house. This could have been how he first encountered the neighborhood. There is limited parking downtown and you sometimes have to drive around in the adjacent residential/student housing area to find a parking space.

[@wildflower1397]

If anyone had noticed him in the past and reported it, the cops would ask them to keep it a secret so they could potentially be witnesses at trial. There may be lots of people who saw him in the months before the murder, but are not talking to the media.

[@mandychadwick8762]

@@alethalassiter Looking for parking to eat at a restaurant at 4am? It wasn’t open

[@mairead788-6]

@@mandychadwick8762 yes but there's a 24 hour shopping center in that area and he's a night owl so who's to say he was over there twelve times just shopping or going out for a drive. Ive a friend who doesn't sleep and she sometimes goes out for drives to get out of the house.

[@mairead788-6]

@@deecastle5053 who keeps receipts? I don't 🤣

[@susani1986]

What's really disturbing is when he apparently told one of the victims that he wanted to help them before he killed them. It sounds like he must have had some sick fantasy or he was just so filled with rage and was empty inside (considering how he killed the victims) because there is no valid reason why someone would just walk into a house and kill people.

[@katiesioux7757]

There are valid reasons but not in his case

[@Au60schild]

Reconsider your statement in light of the Manson murders.

[@AZ-kr6ff]

We don't know that the intruder the one who said that.

[@dreamweaver1603]

@@katiesioux7757 WTH? Of course there are no valid reasons.

[@musicmimi289]

@@AZ-kr6ffWho else would have said that?

[@NikkiNN]

You can easily look up house layouts when you have an address. So whether or not he had been in there or not, he could have studied the layout before that night. There is no need for him to go into the house to know the layout

[@dishdog215]

As far as getting the year wrong on the car, as a prosecuter, I would say "we" intentionally misrepresented the year, so as not to panic the killer.

[@Daniel-yd7mx]

So you would lie? You are a perfect example of someone that shouldn’t be involved in any part of our judicial system.

[@davywavy6457]

Go back to school and do law please. Yoh have the aptitude for it

[@davywavy6457]

@@Daniel-yd7mx silence

[@Daniel-yd7mx]

@@davywavy6457 I don’t expect a reply of someone with this moral character. They are probably too busy Getty their 15th vaccination, taking their hormones to mimic the opposite sex and filling out their 2024 ballot for Biden.

[@donaldbiden1920]

Panic the killer? By continuing to ask for the public's help finding a white car even after they knew BK drove a white hyundai if anything it would seem they were trying to panic the suspect

[@guitarguy420]

He was definitely casing the joint. Thoroughly examining and observing the place in order to familiarize himself in preparation for criminal activity.

[@angelabarnes1547]

This was a rental house. From what I know, the inside view was online for anyone to review in advance as a prospective rental. This would certainly have helped anyone to know the interior layout. Sadly in this case

[@socialbutterfly4146]

I agree. I think he went back to retrieve the sheath. And there was some reason he could not go back in. Someone walking their dog, too many people out and about the neighborhood. Decided he couldn’t chance it

[@alloralou4722]

Yes. Thank you for your comment, I didn’t think about that.

[@Codered810]

Maybe to see if he could retrieve the sheath but I think it was more to see if the circus had begun yet...another rush in admiration of his deeds

[@dishdog215]

Sun was up...just to much of a risk

[@marilyne4324]

@@lynb2039 she saw him. We have zero confirmation that he saw her. I think evidence that has been released shows that he most likely didn't see her.

[@Overprotected1111]

The defense attorney listening to this : “oh!!! Great idea!!! We’ll go with that!!!! Thank you JB!!! That’ll help us!!!!”

[@Hollypenopepper]

Right, because they can't think of all that on their own LOL They have to get all their ideas from JB. 😂 You're a total genius! 🤣

[@kit3843]

The motive; He was in his own way studying murder He essentially wanted to know what it felt like to drive a knife into someone, especially a popular good looking young girl, the kind of girl that once bullied him, and what his victims did while being stabbed and what he felt while he stabbed them. He was obsessed with murder. That is the why.

[@barneyronnie]

You need to contact the AP!

[@1956soulmate]

@kit3843 I agree. Also seems he could be psychopathic and cannot feel empathy. I know girls to be bullies and post provocative pictures for fun. Sometimes they just come across the wrong person and it backfires on them. That could be part of the motive so please be careful how you treat people.

[@MrRaven2]

@@1956soulmate Please don't blame the victims. I really don't understand the attempt to explain this crime due to past bullying. He had never talked to or met these girls, they were just random people who he had access to.

[@1956soulmate]

@@MrRaven2 I cannot understand how you can suggest I am blaming the victims. At this stage we still do not know what connection he had with the victims. I was replying to kit3843 giving my ideas for what the motive might have been. If you read their comment then you'll understand why I said that. I didn't mean it's what happened just what was possible as being a woman myself I know how we are. Also hoping women take note to protect themselves and to treat others with respect as it would save us all a lot of trouble.

[@1956soulmate]

@@MrRaven2 Please read kit3843 comment. Not blaming the victims just making suggestions for the motive as we were just discussing possible motive. We don't know many facts at this stage so only speculating. I thought that was clear so calm down please and dont jump to conclusions.

[@PLab8]

I’m sure many students go back and forth for many reasons. The real question is the range of the pings. I didn’t know they ping you to exact spot. Maybe they do? Lots of odd things for sure

[@Any-Okra]

Criminal often come back to the scene of the crime to see the chaos they caused

[@margaretmmg]

If I was on the jury the fact they were off on the year of the car would not bother me.

[@CitrusandCapri]

My phone always pings in southern Germany according to Facebook. Except for once, I havent been in southern Germany since 2008. Now we have 2023.

[@alextabet9247]

But was your DNA also found on in a murder scene in that same Southern Germany area? And was your car seen in that exact area at the time of the murder? And did the murderer’s physical appearance (height, complexion, build, eyebrows) match yours?

[@CitrusandCapri]

@@alextabet9247 My DNA almost got onto an axt of the hells angely by accident. The story would be too long. But I didn't murder anyone. Bushy eyebrows ? That couls mean anything. You haven't seen the eyebrows of Iranians yet, right? When I hear "bushy eyebrows" I think of Sam Asghari's eyebrows to start with. He is Britney Spears husband. But you are totally right. The amount of evidence points straight to Bryan. Sadly.

[@alextabet9247]

@@CitrusandCapri only "sadly" if he is innocent, because he will most likely be found guilty. The evidence is too much to overcome. Skeptics can question each piece of evidence all they want, collectively, the evidence is overwhelming.

[@rhondadejean]

I know there are questions about why the roommates or roommate waited to call the police. Scared, or hungover, we will find out. However, i remember the Richard Speck murders where one nurse hid under the bed long after Richard Speck left the house and then crawled out on the ledge from her bedroom and started screaming. She waited hours out of shock, fear, all of the above before she felt ok to come out. If anyone wants to know about that story, its easy to look up.

[@rosalierich2073]

I remember this well!

[@jet4415]

I remember this! This was covered in Life magazine.

[@alanboetticher3537]

0 seconds ago it’s been said for ages , “the perpetrator always returns to the scene of the crime”. How soon or how long after, will always vary based on numerous factors unique to the crime and individual.

[@user-hf7kj9dp1f]

I know in Bryan's case especially with other evidences, him being around the murder house probably doesn't have any innocent reason. BUT in most of our lives we do things that would be illogical or not what others our age do or just things that can be looked as odd or evidence in case of murder. Like i know a friend that's very cautious about fingerprints in her everyday life, now in case of a murder that would picked apart as proof of her being guilty. I know i have quirky habits that someone can spin around and fit into a certain narrative. It's like confirmation bias, we always find evidence of what we believe in.

[@bsymissy]

​@@PamalaNEWI think there's a good possibility he's guilty, but if they don't have additional evidence that puts him at the scene of the crime, I think the current evidence we know of is a strong circumstantial case, but not enough to prove beyond responsible doubt.

[@bsymissy]

@@fuukyyoutb4864 the national honors society didn't have a problem with my IQ, nor did they think I am blind to details when they tried to recruit me into a field involving forensics. Like I said it's a good circumstantial case, but so far, the defense definitely has a lot of avenue to create a responsible doubt. They might have better evidence than we know, which would place him without a doubt at the scene of the crime, but we will have to wait till the trial to find out. You're commit was baseless and only expressed your feelings, which is not beneficial for juniors.

[@TheBmco99]

The devil is putting in over time lately

[@danaricketts8970]

Why is he hanging out at the house? He could be picking up drugs or he could be staking them out. I wish they would identify when the cell phone pinged, especially the date for when it first started.

[@Mike-nt9sx]

Thanks for this detailed conversation! It's the best coverage I've found since they arrested a suspect. Sad fir the victims and loved ones. Damn rotten way to die..

[@joyoung9118]

I live in the rural West and drive 30 miles east and 18 miles west of my home to go grocery shopping and I have friends in both nearby towns. He’s a college student, so it is reasonable he is keeping late hours. Cell phone pings have a certain radius, too. The difference is I am not driving late at night - Much circumstantial evidence. Given the thousands of pieces of evidence collected so far and ongoing, I suspect authorities are releasing very little info to the public so as not to blow their investigation and the trial. We will see.

[@desertsunset8025]

The father said he was hooked up to their wifi . So I don't think the pings were a general location .

[@jameseverett4976]

Well then look out all you night people out there. You could be indicted for being up late on the wrong night.

[@desertsunset8025]

Depends what apps use his location on phone . They are accurate down to the street and store or home that you are at .

[@desertsunset8025]

@James Everett that's what he was betting on , that they couldn't convict just because the car was in location . But the sheath is going to be another ballgame . Jury isn't going to buy " someone stole it to frame me" , you do realize enough circumstantial evidence is enough to convict . Jurys have convicted people for murder , without the body, and with less evidence . Regardless if it was circumstantial.

[@wutang5795]

One thing I found very intriguing is that during one of the trooper stops in Indiana his father mentions this shooting that took place around WSU but doesn't mention the four students murdered just 10 min away. Did he maybe have an inkling that his son was involved?

[@gerzoe5983]

I thought that very strange too. I feel that Dad knows he's crazy. I think dad is off too? I hate to day it about someone but the dad wasn't a very good influence. He had to have put 2 &2 together at least by that trip home.

[@joy-115]

I think he mentioned the shooting bc it happened that very day

[@casparnigell5510]

@@joy-115 exactly. The murders were about a month before that. Would have been very strange if he'd mentioned the murders.

[@lesliebyrd5959]

I thought the same

[@barneyronnie]

No