Identifying Fake 1952 Topps Mickey Mantle Cards

Identifying Fake 1952 Topps Mickey Mantle Cards

[@reinamartin6397]

Extremely informative video Dave! This is a great reference for anyone considering purchasing this card. Once I hit the lotto and purchase the 52 I'll be referring back to this for sure! Thanks for sharing!!

[@markcastanza7918]

What an unbelievably informative video; Dave your videos are a HUGE asset to the collecting community!

[@Bluejacket66]

Thank you Mark

[@pepinoman9271]

What a great production, appreciate the effort put into this. Thanks for sharing

[@mohawkgaming8788]

Hey pepino...I've watched a few of your vids...your funny and have a great collection...I like the vid were you caught the thief...anyway check out silverjacks vid of his 52 Mantle...it's in a psa holder but the back has all the fake markings...

[@BecauseImCarlos]

Certainly not in the market for one, but a great reference. Thanks for taking the time to put it together, well done!

[@sheblindedmewithrefractors8795]

First off Dave this video was incredible!!!!! Super important information for anyone that ever wants to purchase a 52 Mantle. I didn't realize that there were that many differences between type 1 and type 2. Its all in the details!!!! Thanks for sharing this knowledge Dave!!!!

[@Bluejacket66]

I actually get things mixed up between the 2 myself sometimes

[@FoxCrueCards]

While this card is out of my realm I thank you for the wonderful education...I love to learn and this was fantastic. Thank you so much for sharing! I now want to go and search one of these out just to look at it. Again...thank you so much!

[@Bluejacket66]

I’d imagine 99.9 % of slabbed 52 Mantles are ok. It’s the raw ones you better be sure about

[@GoodfellasNYC]

@@Bluejacket66 good evening sir. I have a type 2 rookie card and everything you are saying here is accurate. But what about the flashlight test? I lit it up and I can see the back of the card. Is that considered fake? Thanks

[@Bluejacket66]

@@GoodfellasNYC remember a photocopy will have all the correct markings and attributes. Beyond that you have to compare the card stock and feel to other 1952 cards. Do the colors look right, does the print look right under a loupe…

[@GoodfellasNYC]

@@Bluejacket66 the colors look right. Looks original to me but not sure.

[@GoodfellasNYC]

Would it be to much trouble to ask if I can email you a picture of the card? Thank you

[@poormansstack]

Great Info! I just hope that sometime in my life I will have to put this information to use!

[@BaseballCollector]

Just an outstanding education Dave. I love it!! Someday when I buy a ‘52 Mantle, this will be my guide.

[@Bluejacket66]

Thanks Mike Ps I’m really going thru the cards in that collection of your friends you inquired about. We’ll chat soon about it

[@TRNRAnt]

Tremendous video! Incredible! So many little nuances to notice.

[@rvd-ryanscards4440]

Very informative! I had no idea of these traits. Thank you for taking the time to show this to everyone! This card is obviously the holy grail and I hope to just see one in person someday let alone own one. I bought a porcelain special edition reprint when I was 11, I still have it. That’s probably the closest I’ll come. Again thank you for putting this together

[@Bluejacket66]

Thanks sir subscribing and viewing ryan

[@Bluejacket66]

Thanks Ryan

[@ericapp17]

Even though I'll never own a "real" version, I do thank you for the very thorough video. I never knew there were two different types. I was looking at my 1983 reprint of this card as I was watching this and found it possesses some of the differing traits from both types, as well as none of the traits. Great job with this video!

[@Bluejacket66]

Thanks for the comments Happy collecting

[@GoodfellasNYC]

@@Bluejacket66 Good evening, this video is extremely informative. I have a type 2 ungraded that was given to me 30 years ago. What about a light test on the type 2. Does that apply or work? Just asking because even though my card is exactly like your video, does it mean it's authentic? Thanks

[@psychdonbaseballcards5137]

Great educational video Dave. Thanks for putting this together.

[@word.723]

The common practice of fakes is to have paper worn at key places on the card like the missing pixel locations. There is a Mantle like this on eBay right now.

[@Bluejacket66]

That’s a little trick they play to try hide a fake

[@forzendikar9908]

A must watch video for anyone interested in buying a 52 Topps Mantle. Great video, I had no idea there were 2 types let alone all of the things to look for. Thanks for sharing your knowledge!

[@j.bachelor4110]

Hey I comment on most of your videos and I really enjoy them all but, I want to let you know my favorite video was on the altered Gehrig, not because of that particular AMAZING card but because of the teaching and insight you share. NOW, this video is right there with the "altered Gehrig vid" as my fav. Keep doing what you do. Thanks

[@nufcedcards]

Great video, Dave. Thanks for sharing this info. It is disconcerting that such an easy to identify fake could end up slabbed by a major TPG...

[@Bluejacket66]

I think it’s very very rare Andrew. In fact I’d wager that 99.9 % of fake cards in slabs..... ARE IN FAKE SLABS!!!!! There is some very very scary stuff that’s been coming out of Mexico for years. High end stuff in fake PSA slabs.

[@nufcedcards]

A good reminder for us all to carefully inspect anything we consider buying, thoroughly research the cards and become as knowledgeable as possible, and share info like this...

[@dominicperri6262]

Great Job again Dave. I was watching that ESPN shorts of the conterfit autos in the late 90s. Insane.

[@Bluejacket66]

Yeah I bought a lot of fb autos in 90s- I’m sure 80% bad. Even today autos are easily faked. I’d even worry about a slabbed one if it was expensive

[@MrFisherbike]

Very informative video brother. Thanks for taking the time to show us the differences.

[@clevelandsportscards1986]

Very good information dave. I enjoy your content. Thanks for sharing.

[@Bluejacket66]

Thank you I made the parts on backs confusing as both back versions are authentic, just different depending on the front type

[@shamrockrmf1522]

Thanks so much Dave! Such valuable information for our community!

[@deangearhartyeahicollectit2439]

Great video! You have opened my eyes to things I was not aware of besides the dark marks on the bat. Someday I plan to buy this card and this video will be a major help thank-you

[@Bluejacket66]

Thanks Dean

[@cscottriffle]

Great video. Hopefully I can put it to work someday!

[@Bluejacket66]

Thanks for watching!

[@Bowman1951]

One of the most informative videos I've seen in a long time, thanks so much for giving us all of this info...even if the card will rarely be in people's affordable range.

[@Bluejacket66]

Thanks for the views and comments!!!

[@quadoscorner7134]

Excellent video my friend, wow, I had no clue. Thank you very much, that cards is every collectors dream, well done. 👍👍

[@Bluejacket66]

Thanks for the feedback!

[@billthehofcollector4525]

Excellent Video ! this is the perfect thing for prospective buyers. It will also get a TON of views and hits inside and outside the community. I just hope the people producing fakes don’t learn from their mistakes.

[@123precision8]

Very thorough and informative. Great explanation. Interesting even though I'll never be able to afford one.

[@Bluejacket66]

I don’t have on either!

[@brinks554]

Great video Dave. Watched this a few times and did a Ebay search. Some of the type 2 Mantles in PSA slabs have creases conveniently on the white pixel. I am curious to know if those were fake PSA slabs in your video. You would think PSA would be well aware of the tell tale signs for the 1952 Mantle.

[@Bluejacket66]

There are fake PSA slab/ flips out there And I have no idea how to spot them. Yes, people will age and crease a fake 52 so you can tell if the pixel is missing

[@JIMMBAY1]

Awesome video & content. Grrreat training, educational video. I thank thee, Dave for sharing all...

[@MatthewCSeuferwindowsheaven]

very informative! felt like I was in a class.Thank You!

[@Bluejacket66]

👍

[@jeffairtime3412]

Great video. Very informative. I've heard many of these facts before but you really simplified it. Good stuff!

[@Bluejacket66]

Thank Jeff, I appreciate that

[@MaxPowerBaseball]

very thorough and informative. dont know that i'll ever own one, but now will know how to spot the fakes. thanks!

[@mjhaynes1021]

I don’t plan on ever being able to afford this card but the amount of info in this video is awesome! I have shared with many of my friends in the hobby! I have learned so much from watching your videos over the past few months. Your collecting prowess is way above mine but I get to enjoy these cards through you as if they were my own. Keep on keeping on, good stuff! And I’m a St. Louis guy as well. 👍🏻

[@Bluejacket66]

Thank you so much I guess there’s a couple shown in stl in April One at the machinist Hall on the Rock Road

[@mjhaynes1021]

Bluejacket 66 Yes there is, that one is the 3 day show, usually a pretty good one 👍🏻 Lots of vintage at the ones there. I’ll probably try to go one day. Let me know if you go, I know a couple guys from STL who love your videos, would be cool to meet up!

[@Schmurph3607]

Awesome video , I was just looking at a listing on EBay for an extremely off centered and beat up RC but the back is way off, the arrows go right to left and the S's line up with the H ..Thank you for saving me alot of cash

[@cubancollector3467]

Thanks For Educating The Community Dave Valuable Information Shared.

[@pennoisit]

I don't care what other videos come to screen in 2019, this will be the standout for me. Thank you for imparting your knowledge for the benefit of the uninformed.

[@Bluejacket66]

Very kind, thank you

[@gregdobrick7788]

Another great video I hope it helps someone. I was at a card show in Cincinnati today for a little while and I heard two teenagers talking about this blue jacket guy on you tube. That officially makes you Mick Jagger (a rock star)

[@Bluejacket66]

I’m not that old!!!! Haha

[@robscards6313]

vert educational...great job and thanks for informing us Dave!

[@petermikita7891]

Great job Dave. Love low tech. I grew up on it! Lol. Thank you!

[@Bluejacket66]

Hi Peter, thanks!

[@sportsgrunt7000]

Great research, Professor Dave !! Geart video not that I will ever own one. LOL

[@Bluejacket66]

I own less than 1% of things I know about and I’m sure I know less than 1% of thing there are to know. We’re all on same boat

[@larrygann695]

Great, informative video. Haven't had the pleasure of owning a 52 Mantle, but this would certainly make sure that I get a genuine card. Thanks!

[@Bluejacket66]

Thanks Larry!

[@BLM_Big_Lipped_Marxist]

Hi, How can I tell the difference between original and reprint of Mickey 1952 #311. Both look identical. Plz help. Thnx. 🤗

[@WeskerGriff]

Incredible video Dave! Learned a lot! Thank you!

[@alexsimonll4914]

Now i can perfectly replicate an authentic fake, thanks bro

[@Bluejacket66]

Good luck reproducing the print dot matrix and card stock bro, yeesh

[@alexsimonll4914]

@@Bluejacket66 this was a joke metaphorically speaking. Easy bro lol

[@Bluejacket66]

@@alexsimonll4914 I have no sense of humor!!!🤣

[@_NEW3RA_]

I just seen a mantle sale that has the total opposite of what this vid shows. It was sealed & certified authentic. Stitching on ball went the opposite way and the h lined up with the S’s

[@Bluejacket66]

See title which says “ignore commentary on back. “ Stitching and letter alignment differs in type 1 and 2. I do not make that clear

[@_NEW3RA_]

@@Bluejacket66 gotcha

[@AbelinVegas]

Have no words. Seen this twice because its that good. I did not know there are two versions. Is there a price difference between two? If so, how many people have paid T1 price and got a T2. Great, great video. Thanks for the info.

[@Bluejacket66]

No price difference. I prefer the type 1 with full border around the logo.

[@abetsarixa]

Nice information .. really appreciate your efforts .. keep it up🙏

[@Bluejacket66]

Thanks for checking in

[@boykinlp]

Fantastic Information!

[@Bluejacket66]

Thank you

[@garysmith5268]

The grading services have no way to reliably scan the cardboard paper and inks to ensure proper 1952 dating?....before slabbing? Pretty much any lab could do that. PSA and SGC don’t utilize this tech?

[@garylee190]

Best 17 minutes ever invested in baseball card collecting!

[@Smitherly85]

Bluejacket66 do you think you can help me authenticate my mickey mantle card so i know whether or not to get it graded

[@ZombieCollector69]

Thanks for sharing your knowledge,Dave!!

[@ScottMartinD]

I wonder why PSA doesn't mention/differentiate between a "type 1" & "type 2"?

[@natas2727]

Good question if it's true they don't... Hopefully this youtuber will answer.

[@Bluejacket66]

I have no idea?!

[@jeffmaloney894]

This is an amazingly informative video! I will never own this card, but it sure was interesting to learn about it. Thanks!

[@mountainymountain2539]

Does the missing pixel only appear on the second variant?

[@Bluejacket66]

Correct

[@LeeCopus]

Im sure that if any counterfeit came across PSA when they 1st started grading that they pass without any detection. Meaning there are some graded fakes out there.

[@Bluejacket66]

True I’m sure

[@DW77ZHP]

I have a type 2 that matches every characteristic described in the video. When inspecting the card, what pixel traits are the standard? I understand some of the black borders should be solid, while the colors are pixelated. Are there pictures of a verified true 52 of the pixel characteristics?

[@zengarden8592]

I checked mine out and it looks like its a type 2, but I was also told there is another way to tell if its fake, by using a flash light. shining it on the back and if you see the stat print, then its either a reprint or a fake. Is that true? This can be very confusing.

[@Bluejacket66]

Idk I do know some fake cards will allow More light thru them when held up to a flashlight

[@joeryanfan3042]

Awesome vid. thanks

[@maritzatoledo6923]

How much does type 1 go for?

[@Bluejacket66]

Type 1 and 2 go for same pricing. Depends on condition/ grade

[@marathawnjawn8862]

There is a fake Type 1 on eBay right now (12/22/19). I wish I could show photos on here. The front looks legit, but on the back, the baseball stitching is going from R to L & the S’s line up with the h in “Throw’s Right”. It’s in a PSA case as a graded 1 & it has 68 bids right now for over $5k. One other red flag? The seller had 0% positive feedback. I wish I could tell all these bidders to BEWARE!! Great video - thank you!🙏

[@Bluejacket66]

My commentary on the back was confusing hence I said “ ignore” in the Title . I can’t say for sure this Mantle is not good. The corner rounding is suspicious. I’d have to hold this one. The stitching commentary I used only differentiates type 1 and type 2 not fakes

[@marathawnjawn8862]

Thanks for the clarification. After looking at several others online. I see what you mean.

[@michaellawson2797]

Thanx Dave great video doubt I'll ever be able to afford one but great references

[@Bluejacket66]

That’s the point! Thanks Michael

[@yodapapavintageamericana]

Awesome job

[@MarkfromKy]

Man awesome video great information thanks for posting this

[@Bluejacket66]

Thanks for watching Mark

[@robertweiss7802]

If you could please help me out I inherited an entire complete set of this 1952 cards and I have this Mickey Mantle card with like I think there's like a thousand other cards too the set is complete and the binder that it's in is a 1952 Topps binder. What should I do or who should I contact

[@Bluejacket66]

Sure, send me some pics to [e-mail]

[@stevesmith9886]

I have a type one, would u look at it and let me know if its worth sending off to be authenticated. It passes all your type one test plus feels to be the same material when i have compared it to other 52 cards. Doesnt glow with a blacklight and a flashlight wont shine threw it all ways i seen to spot a fake card online.

[@Bluejacket66]

[e-mail]

[@dmacmsu]

glad to to know this information !!!!

[@Mstevensyt-qt1to]

Thank you for this video. My husband and I bought a Topps 1952 Mickey Mantle at a yardsale, everything about the card seems real. Is there a way I could send you some pictures to get your opinion on the card.

[@Bluejacket66]

Lightningshack25@gmail

[@michaelrusso2825]

Ok but what if we find one how do we sell it

[@Philmington]

Just watching this for the first time today. Really good stuff- And I would've been able to tell JY's was a reprint this way!

[@Bluejacket66]

Thanks Phil..... I think the real test is holding the card in hand. Thankfully most these cards are graded

[@davidlefever2205]

Question. Is the back the same on both versions. I've been told they are different on both. I'm looking to purchase one for investment, but see so many psa graded with the backs that are what this video says a fake. I really appreciate someone like you looking out for true collectors, please clarify the back so I really know what to look for. Thanks again for this awesome video

[@jimmygunz6762]

Sweet video. Doubt id ever be in the position to purchase one but its good info to know.

[@tommy..980]

What’s the price difference between type 1and 2 if they both are authentic?????

[@Bluejacket66]

Same price

[@cjisjunk6271]

Great video!!! I think we have a type 2 winner!!!!

[@neiltherealdeal1259]

Thanks for another great video Dave

[@lannydante9390]

I just bought a 1952 Mickey Mantle card and I believe its a type 2, now that I know its fake, is this card STILL worth something? Thanks for your help.

[@paulneumayer7428]

I have this card definitely type 1 as you described, it is in fair shape. Is there anything else I need to know about the card and how do I go about having it graded or do I even bother I would love to send you some pics if possible thanks

[@Bluejacket66]

I would grade it faith PSA or SGC. Their websites have instructions and the proper forms. Any 52 topps mantle should be graded

[@DOXIECHON]

Great info, thanks!

[@dustinabraham]

This is awesome. Although I'll never be in a position to have to know this. Lol. Great video Dave. Your knowledge never ceases to impress me.

[@Bluejacket66]

I’ve been around awhile. I know a little about a few things and nothing about most!

[@SaNsToRmS24]

Both authentic type 1 and type 2 have differences in the front, what about the back?

[@Bluejacket66]

The backs are different in the way the stitching points in the ball, and how the lettering lines up on the right hand side of the card. I tried to explain it but made it sound like one way was fake... which is I correct. I outlined the 2 different backs in the video. Disregard and commentary that indicates one back is fake. Backs are just different in type 1 and 2

[@GoodfellasNYC]

What about the color letters in the back of the card? For example, what color are the red letters supposed to be? Mines seem darker. Thanks

[@Bluejacket66]

Should be pretty bold red. I suppose there could be subtle difference. I’d compare to known real copies

[@GoodfellasNYC]

@@Bluejacket66 would it be to much trouble to ask if you could please review my type 2mantle??

[@bigmacfanatic25]

Now this was a very nice learning experience! Is there two types of authentic cards because it was a double printed card? A different print run? Excellent video, thank you for sharing the knowledge!

[@Bluejacket66]

I think there were 2 print runs. I would guess type 2 was second run but idk. I’d guess plate was screwed up on second printing but idk

[@bigmacfanatic25]

One more question. Is one type more rare or valuable than the other?

[@Bluejacket66]

No same values

[@SebastianSelect]

Thank you for the awesome info, did not know at least now I do.

[@Drucom1]

Can you do a 1951 bowman fake video?

[@Bluejacket66]

Those are not really tough. I don’t think I’m comfortable spotting them

[@cliffordmilam9624]

I believe I have an authentic T206 honus Wagner card... how do I tell if it is authentic? I believe with all my being that it is.

[@stompingtheghostteamats2091]

Thanks for your time Sr

[@bennythechin5128]

Excellent informative video! Thanks for sharing!

[@PilotsLoungeFishing]

Thank you for this informative video. How can I get in touch with you, as I have a few questions.

[@Bluejacket66]

Lightningshack25@gmail Ig @bluejacket66

[@daunteziser2572]

I have type 1 and the front lines up perfectly but when you go the back side the baseball stitching is the wrong way.

[@Bluejacket66]

Disregard my commentary on backs. The stitching can go either way depending on the front type

[@CarsandcoffeeTn]

I have one and i dont know if its real or not but everything on the type 2 authentic one matches with mine we are probably going to go to a card shop tomorrow to see if they can tell for sure

[@Bluejacket66]

Good idea. Remember a photo copy will match up. It’s all about the card

[@ryankepke8642]

How might I send you a few photos to help me determine my card is the real deal or fake?

[@johnreed1779]

Great and very informative video. Best that I've seen yet.

[@Bluejacket66]

Thanks John

[@nicholasyoder]

How do they end up in real graded holders?

[@Bluejacket66]

That is very very rare. Even if that’s the case it may be the holder was fake or tampered with

[@tylerromano9307]

are there any mickey mantle with dark blue ?

[@Bluejacket66]

The background has subtle shade differences. Not dark blue though

[@WanderingWeekends]

assuming the type 1 is more desirable?

[@Bluejacket66]

No difference. Some may prefer one over the other I guess

[@topps85401]

Wow some great info Dave!!

[@71fluffdaddy]

Thank you so much for video I almost bid on a fale one on ebay. The bidding is up to $315. 1day and 9 hours left.

[@Bluejacket66]

Paul I would never bid on a raw 52 mantle on eBay..... never. Even if it passes the eye test. I would still need to feel it and look at it under a loupe.

[@71fluffdaddy]

Thanks for that info buddy. Extremely helpful.

[@21eddiest]

Good presentation, but the backs of the Type 1 vs. Type 2 is different. The stitching on the baseball runs right to left on the Type 1, and the Rig"h"t, Dimaggio'"s", and Kansa"s" all line up vertically on the Type 1.

[@oliviabailey4739]

Well I just found out I have a real authentic type 1 1952 mantle card, cool.

[@pepper3223]

I want it!

[@garyquinlan2182]

The type one and type two both have different backs also.

[@Bluejacket66]

Correct! I blew the explanation

[@TheValdivia1]

Dave, so most cards on ebay are fake? 80% of the cards listed don't have the T align with both S. I'm curious to know as I am interested on buying one, but got pushed away after watching your video. Thank you

[@Bluejacket66]

Note my title says “ ignore commentary on backs” I really messed that up. While trying to show differences between type 1 and 2 backs I made them sound fake

[@Eliteco3]

incredible video and knowledge

[@Bluejacket66]

Thanks Nolan

[@AlexXanderMarketing]

Very educational. Thanks! TYPE 1 definitely the better looking card overall, but I’m guessing Type 2 is rarer.

[@Bluejacket66]

Really no price difference between the two. I prefer the type 1 as well