Identity politics and the rise of ethnic conflict

[@Sarahk150]

Excellent panel! Multiculturalism as policy is a disaster it seems

[@AnAn___]

What is multi-culturalism?

[@iand654456]

I know this sucks but throughout history every attempt to mix religious cultures has failed. If you want confirmation just look at the Arabic nations. They have been around for 2900 years.

[@AnAn___]

@@iand654456 In most of asia, there haven't been religious wars for 6 thousand years minus islamism. Wars have been for other reasons. In most of Asia in ancient times the default understanding was perennialism or that all religions were true and great. Why can't this understanding be the global default?

[@51L0v3andcompassion]

Once again, an excellent array of view points… A very emotional subject, but well controlled and brilliantly presented.

[@cestmoi4532]

What a great panel! Thank you!

[@LS-xs7sg]

I don’t want to be all negative but it seems to me even without a state policy of multiculturalism people are naturally going to have identities with threaten each other in certain contexts and make liberal democracy harder to maintain. If you read Enoch Powell beyond the speeches and in more depth that was basically his entire position. That immigration would ultimately lead to what he called the “communalism of the Indian subcontinent” and the breakdown of any sense of common ‘demos’ making liberal democracy difficult. His ideas were way more fleshed out and reasonable than people have portrayed

[@AnAn___]

This is an ignorant take. Why does India have vastly less communalism and ethnic conflict than the UK. India is vastly more diverse than the UK with 1,000 languages and perhaps 5 million ethnic groups with unique and different cultures. Different Indian cultures are vastly different from each other. Indians are vastly different from each other. Many Indian cultures inside India are more similar to British culture than they are to other Indian cultures. Something similar can be said for the USA, Brazil, Indonesia and other countries which are more diverse than the UK. The UK handles nonbinary pluralism, diversity, nonlinearity, islam and islamism (which is very different from islam) far worse than many other countries around the world. The UK should learn from other countries on how the UK can be better.

[@LS-xs7sg]

@@AnAn___ India has way more instances of inter ethnic conflict between hindus and muslims than Britian does of whites vs blacks or asians. In fact much of the more serious inter-ethnic mob violence has been between hindus and muslims in britain plus pakistani pogroms of white areas in places like bradford.

[@AnAn___]

Love James Heartfield.

[@51L0v3andcompassion]

It is people that are liberal, but it is political campaigns that are alarming. 32:38 I don’t agree with James.

[@jjohanesson9139]

Ehsan is always thoughtful and measured.

[@pinchebruha405]

Keep ignoring the English and you’ll get yourself a Trump! Never ceases to amaze me that foreigners and non English telling the English how they need to be and act to accommodate those coming in…😂

[@AnAn___]

Trump is far more reasonable than the vast majority of the political class in the UK on all sides of the spectrum, including the right. The UK has massive problems that are much worse than what the US has or can even imagine. The US for example doesn't have ethnic conflict and a tiny fraction of the islamism that the UK has.

[@Sarahk150]

I think James Heartfield is right ethnic conflict is wildly exaggerated

[@51L0v3andcompassion]

Are you sure?

[@blondie7341]

Champagne socialist?? Do you live cheek by jowl with these people? Have you or your kids been affected by being unable to get a house because immigrants are being given priority for these houses? Wtf do you know? Because you're utterly wrong

[@davidgreen6490]

Lets stop fooling ourselves, ITS THE MUSLIMS!!!!!!

[@AnAn___]

@@51L0v3andcompassion Yes . . . the UK doesn't have an ethnic conflict challenge. The UK has a home grown conservative sunni islamist problem. Foreign muslims are far more liberal than UK born muslims.

[@pinchebruha405]

@@AnAn___ Sunni Muslims are Ethnic, they’re not English, why keep trying to blurt the lines only in Western countries? Also don’t worry they’ll embrace it when they reach majority and don’t forget it’s the children born in outside of Muslim countries that lose thier sense of belonging

[@vp922]

Rakib was quite vocal about blaming Hindus for the violence perpetrated by Islamists in Leicester a year back. I hope he’s got his eyes open to what’s going on in his native Bangladesh right now. Even when you take the Muslims out of Islamist environments, they still gotta find a way to blame the kuffar.