IDIOT Paints Tiny Warhammer, Gets Confused

I was never part of the Epic craze and whilst I appreciate the appeal, I've never taken more than a passing glance at small scale miniatures. In this video I try to work out how to paint them and if it's a project I will come back to or not. Thanks to Games Workshop for sending the box out early for the video.
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[@KnightYellow]

Was a fan of Epic40k back in the 90s, I just couldn't resist the new stuff when the wave of nostalgia hit me.

[@ThePickleJar]

I got caught up in the nostalgia wave too!

[@gutz323]

I remember it too, but wasn't it called something else? I don't think it was called 'Epic!' Was it? I think the scale was even smaller back in the day too wasn't it? Edit... I remember now, what I am remembering is Adeptus Titanicus. Just googled it, and the space marine armies of the 80's era were of a smaller scale too. 6mm as opposed to the recent 8mm release.

[@jack-a-lopium]

@@gutz323 From what I remember the original box was called Epic Space Marine... with a small Epic in the title aquilla. That box had no Titans, then Adeptus Titanicus was the second box... now with Titans! Cool fun, either way. These new models are lovely. I think 'Epic' was the range at that scale? I have the original box in storage, but yeah confusing, lol.

[@chrisblack8205]

There was epic space marine, then epic titan legions (the best version), then epic 40k, then epic Armageddon (also the best version...). I can't wait to get my hands on this. I'll never actually play it, but I never got painting much of the old stuff because it belonged to my mate back in the day. Always wanted a mega gargant and an Imperator Titan. Looking forward to getting some o my own

[@gutz323]

@@jack-a-lopium cool! Was a long time ago.

[@user-um1xo9ed1x]

I am doing a Perry Miniatures Napoleonics travel game where the figures are slightly smaller than these. I also have a reasonable collection of FOW Desert Rats at 15mm. All fun stuff but some times I need a break for bigger things.

[@SupermegaGchan]

I just started working on some epic scale Pike and Shotte from Warlord and I'm slapping my forehead at how much simpler it would have been to prime with the minis still on sprue the way you did.

[@ThePickleJar]

Well, you know for going forward at least haha

[@joshuaboardman3826]

I really cut my teeth on Battlefront’s 15mm pewter minis. what I learned was a brown wash over the base coat makes a choppy looking paint job look pretty convincing and adds the grimey battlefield ‘I haven’t changed my uniformed or showered in 2 weeks’ look..highlighting isn’t really that necessary. the details are just a bonus if you can get them..stuff like patches and insignias, etc.

[@Frandog99]

They look so cool! Am impressed with how good small scale can look. Cracking work as always bud, hope you’re well. 🙂

[@davydatwood3158]

I've a fair amount of 6mm stuff and yeah, at that scale infantry boils down to "paint it green, add black to the boots and gun, add flesh to the face and hands, done." Even if I decide to go for a more modern camo look, which is basically "add dots and splotches randomly to the figure," there's still less splotches on a sprue of 10 6mm figures than there are on one 28mm figure. Question: what does one call that arch-shaped light? I'm in Canada so most likely your specific source isn't going to be cost efficient, but having a generic name will help with the hunt.

[@ThePickleJar]

The light I have is from Green Stuff World, but you can just make the same thing yourself using some arched plastic and an LED strip, that's all it is really.

[@tomatha132]

As someone who finds painting standard 40K miniatures to be a fiddly process, especially without a magnifying glass, I feel like I would really struggle with painting those but watching this video has made me actually consider painting such tiny models 😂

[@ramboroddz6158]

The look to the cam when shaking that can 😂😂

[@ThePickleJar]

I’m glad someone noticed 😅

[@nickharling3902]

Love the new camerawork you’ve been working into your channel. And clone Josh too, love him

[@Ernzt8]

I paint a lot of 1/72 scale miniatures. The way I work is either sticking them on cocktail sticks one by one, stick those in a piece of foam and prime. Then painting them individualy while holding them by the cocktail stick. Another way is to stick them with blue tag on tongue depressors. I like your army!

[@tabletop-mini-showcase]

They look great dude! As a more relaxed armie painter project rather than a super detail-orientated project I reckon this game has the potential to be a delightful painting experience...would be interesting to see just how much detail you get on them but as you say the units as a whole are the focus and as a group you can have them looking excellent without going crazy on the detail. Also seeing the brush holder in use on your table gave me a big smile! 😁

[@toweroftrollgaming]

Welcome to the old school miniture wargaming and painting. I do Johnny Reb and flames of war at this scale

[@ThePickleJar]

I've heard of Flames of War, but not Johnny Reb.

[@RowdiesFan1]

@@ThePickleJar "Johnny Reb" is primarily an American Civil War miniatures ruleset. It's a fun system! Several differences between it and Warlord's "Black Powder" ruleset or the other classic "Fire and Fury."

[@ArhainHainar]

One of the best versions of these that I've seen and not too onerous to replicate for a variety of legions

[@bobvanpeborgh6312]

If I am not mistaken, the scale of these new "epic" miniatures is bigger then the original miniatures back in the eighties... I was devastated when Games Workshop stopped that epic-line with the Tyrannids-figures... Back in those days the whole game was also "cm-based" as "inch-based" and is still very fun to play... Games workshop did release a new version of epic later, but it didn't quite "got of the ground"... I hope that this time, GW will stick with epic-scale longer and will bring out other races of the WH 40K-range, like the Tau and the Undead BESIDES the Eldar, The dwarfs, the Orcs, Chaos and the Tyrannids... I love painting the vehicle miniatures AND of course, the Titans!

[@wakkru]

Oh man, that shows again how complicated I think. My plan was: Attach them to Popsicle's in Groups and then paint them... Then I see your Video and think to myself "He's right. Just leave them on the Sprue" 🤦🤦🤦

[@ThePickleJar]

Hahaha, happy to help :)

[@rustedbeetle]

Not GW, but I play Traders Galaxy Bot War, which is 10mm. I use MDF boards from Uncertain Scenery in 8-10mm scale, which I could also use for this game if I pick it up.

[@JennyDecimal]

Really impressed at how well these turned out, and the on-sprue painting technique served it so well. I found the prospect of painting these up so nightmarish it scared me off a little, but this makes it look really do-able.

[@badbones777]

Ace that, mate! Looks great. And you are absolutely right - from painting 6mm Napoleonics, it's almost pointless treating this scale of model like we do 28/32's. It almost necessitates it's own apporach and the visual impact is less fromthe details of individual models, and more from the look of the thing as a whole on the table. You could chase yourself into madness trying to pick out every last detail on them (and more power to you if you do) but I don't think it's the way to go to get them on the table.

[@jack-a-lopium]

Lovely models, lovely PJ! Yup, I used to play the original tiny dudes with my brother back in the 80s (or 90s, I've had a drink since). Good times! Hanomag half-track for an Imperialis (close enough) fortress.

[@daniellogue8365]

I painted up the bear army for Risk Legacy, was a lot of fun, was happily surprised how much detail I could get onto them.

[@ThePickleJar]

I was surprised by how detailed these were too tbh

[@davidwasilewski]

I bet Luke likes these! You’re right. When painting at this scale, you’re painting units rather than individual figures. As someone who mainly plays miniature wargaming in 6mm to 10mm scale, I’d suggest spray, ink then dry brush before doing the detail.

[@TheSarge23]

My small scale experience is Battletech infantry. 12+ to a squad, 6mm metal units. In the 90s. It... Did not go well for me. 😅

[@ThePickleJar]

Ouch, that sounds rough! I think for me I enjoyed this experiment and I’m definitely going to expand this collection gradually, but I can’t do too much of it at once. It’d drive me crazy!

[@alexhamilton6188]

You had me at the Always Sunny in Philly music 😂

[@peterixon8708]

It never occurred to me to clip off the extra hold-alls and leave just one holding the figure, thereby painting on the sprue. So obvious when you see it done, but I hadn't thought to do that, so I have avoided painting my epic scale English Civil War. But now I can paint them. Thanks.

[@roryhatfield6696]

I didn’t think I was even going to be remotely be interested in this but you piqued my interest. Thanks 🙏

[@ThePickleJar]

No problem at all, happy to help :)

[@anthonywaggett9317]

As a 'veteran' of Epic 40K painting on the sprue is the way to go and to be honest a lot of my collection is still on the sprue. I found that the way to go was similar to painting larger scale armies, simple tabletop standard for the rank and file and a bit more time and detail on the HQ's and special figures. I think 2 hours was about the time I spent on some of the special figures but with my eyesight and hand problems I couldn't even start to paint anything like this now - even though they are roughly twice the size of the Epic scale. Couple of things to note about this set in comparison to the old Epic Space Marine and army boxes - the old square bases had recesses for the bases of the individual figures which made the models look less stuck on, each base had a little upright post to use as a movement handle but also acted as a marker for the back of the unit, square bases made it easier to rank up your troops and finally with Epic being set in the 40k universe you had a far better selection of models - I personally had Space Marines, Imperial Troops (mounted troops), Eldar, Chaos (great Tzeentch discs) and Orks if memory serves. Be good to see you paint up 1 stand to your highest standard - keep it up.

[@EmbraCraig]

One of my first big (haha…) army painting project back in the 90s was doing the marines from the old Space Marine epic box. I did a poor job of them, but just putting the basic colours in the right place is plenty to get a good looking army when you’ve got 30 bases of 5 guys each on them

[@ThePickleJar]

This is exactly it, it's the overall look that matters on something this scale

[@phillewis3108]

I considered getting this, then I remembered I still haven’t touched the Epic box I bought about 30 years ago.

[@banhammer7243]

You should really look up some of the old (original) Epic/Space Marine models that some people painted when it was 6mm, the detail they got then was unreal, with this new scale it's going to be even more amazing!

[@ThePickleJar]

I've seen the pictures and honestly I take my hat off to them. Insane detail

[@destrocrimson]

i dont know but im expecting you at any moment to scream out BATS! and then fly off.

[@BillWD]

For the vast majority of us this kit is awful that it's 30k. I have a 30k marine army, but by not doing 40k for this epic set, GW have isolated Eldar, Ork and Tyranid players for a start.

[@artistpoet5253]

I played the first edition of EPIC. Hated it. So I used the micro minis in games of Rogue Trader 40k. Back then, the models had round bases you slotted into what was really a movement tray. So you could, with delicate fingers or a pair of tweasers, move them as individual figures. Yeah, that was great. I could have a whole game set up on a TV tray ready to go as I didn't have much room to play 'larger' point games. However, getting someone to play at that small scale just raised a lot of eyebrows. So I traded off the models.

[@ThePickleJar]

Finding people to play games is always the issue.

[@samsolopeeps]

Pink works really good under that yellow contrast.

[@ThePickleJar]

I shall remember that for next time :)

[@samsolopeeps]

@@ThePickleJar I reckon thinned carrabourg crimson would be good. They did come out pretty amazing

[@stonelane1827]

Used to have a massive Epic Tyranid army back in the 90's. That was a lot of tiny monsters to paint.

[@harazhangf5782]

Love the chill aspect of the video. The minis without the paint look great, but with the paintjob it's awesome. And to finish, I finally found someone else who does the plasma green. With everyone doing it blue or sometimes red, I felt like I was alone. But no !!! It's good to find someone else.

[@hughmac7423]

I started Warhammer 40K with Epic in the 90's, so yes I have done small minitures and I still have them. Seems funny that Games Workshop are getting back into them, hopefully it last longer than Epic did, because they gave up on supporting it very quickly.

[@_Andrew._]

Any chance you have a Vehicle and Solar Auxilia painting guide coming out?

[@joshuawilson8804]

The only small scale stuff I've done is Battletech, if you get the tanks and infantry they area bout this scale. I absolutely love them. Even though I prefer being able to remove miniatures from a base to represent damage. there is something wonderful about that scale, which surprised me.

[@Billzor991]

These look gorgeous! If you don't mind my asking, do the boxes come with legion transfers of any kind?

[@ThePickleJar]

They do indeed! I’ve just posted a photo of it over on my Instagram story :)

[@zacharybrown9842]

I like to do a magenta wash instead of that initial brown. CMYK color theory = the yellow over the magent will turn brown.

[@elstonation]

I want to say a short joke but 40 years of vertically challenged quips has left me feeling rather small like these guys 😅

[@ThePickleJar]

Bahahaha

[@darthkek1953]

Oh grow up! 🤭

[@aaronwhite96]

What do I think of your jokes? Very little.

[@elstonation]

@@darthkek1953 🤣🤣

[@darthkek1953]

@@aaronwhite96 knock-you-over humour is in short supply, but I'll overlook it this time.

[@bencops]

Did you use superglue or plastic cement to stick them on at the end?

[@HarleyFirestorm]

Just out of curiosity, do you get enough minis for Traitor marines as well, or do you need to buy two boxes?.

[@ThePickleJar]

I’m assuming what you get is for one force, so you’d need two boxes if you wanted to do traitors as well

[@geertbeekman8680]

put them on coffiesticks you can keep them at anny angle for painting.

[@jizzwizzard123]

I will tell you what was too small! The number of sets they produced for pre order

[@CassyCat4]

Don't care what flowery name GW give it, That my friend is Smol Hammer.

[@DonMukl]

Epick for the win more then 220 ork boyz was so much fun to paint :-) and heavy machiínery didnt missing of course :-) dont be afraid by scale guys it is much easyer then it looks

[@Rofgarr]

This was a great video man! It was really cool seeing you paint them on the sprues. I would not have thought to do that and I would have had tiny little guys to paint on some sort of tiny little paint handle.

[@ThePickleJar]

Sometimes the simplest way is the easiest way

[@turbonerd6552]

All i can say is..... that lush head of hair 😂❤

[@ResonanceSD]

What's the painting light you use??

[@michaeltunnicliffe4935]

I absolutely love the idea of epic. Just before the announcement, I was actually just starting a 3rd party army of epic tanks and a few Titanicus Knights. I really enjoyed painting them and was looking forward to the release of this game. But for me, the price is just too much. I would either expect to get twice as much for the cost or to pay half as much. Seriously, if the main starter box was £60, i'd probably not only have bought it but i'd probably buy two and have a HUGE army, which is what I like about the idea most. The idea of having a huge army. But £120 is FAR too steep. Also i'm not too keen on the Solar Auxilia being bundled with Marines. I think I would have wanted a huge Space Marine army backed by Knights and maybe a fleet of Guard tanks. But in my mind if you want to mix Guard with Marines, you need at least a 10 Guard to 1 Marine mix so I'd only bother with Marines and tanks.

[@brownbearwargaming]

Great video...must have felt nice topaint as many models in a day as Elston! 😂

[@blissfulbadger]

Love the paint job! They look just right at that scale.

[@michaelpopa5317]

that 180 degree lap desk have a link were u got it?

[@ThePickleJar]

My desk? The black one in the background is from Ikea. My painting desk is just an old Argos one

[@Steele68HS]

@@ThePickleJar I think he means the Arch Lamp.

[@michaelpopa5317]

@@Steele68HS oo that's what it is called

[@BarokaiRein]

The idea of epic is cool, but I'd never play it because if there's one thing I hate, it's painting lots of small models. The average model count for all of my printed 2000 point armies is 20. Like whenever I make a list for a modeling project, I don't even look at rules for a certain armies unless they have one or more 'big and bad' options that cost a lot of points.

[@veritypickle8471]

I 'ears a Northern accent, I subscribes. This is t'way.

[@skaro4ever]

love small scale use to do 6mm modern and sci fi

[@ThePickleJar]

I wasn't super convinced before, but I enjoyed this enough to carry on painting them and build up a decent army

[@skaro4ever]

the smaller the scale the larger the army you can have @@ThePickleJar

[@TheBaronVonBoom]

This brings back memories, ive still got old Epic Tyranids on a sprue lurking somewhere. Is it still the same scale? As these look slightly bigger?

[@EmbraCraig]

Yeah, new ones are 8mm rather than 6mm I believe - I’m sure there’ll be some side by side comparisons once people start getting their hands on boxes.

[@TheBaronVonBoom]

@@EmbraCraig Thought they looked a bit bigger:) Thanks for the info, will have to keep an eye out for further comparisons.

[@JuliusCaesar888]

How did you get a box this early?

[@ThePickleJar]

I get lots of things early, so I can make content with it for pre-order day

[@Dreakz]

My painting joy vanishes when I paint small scale :-/ even MESBG is too small for me

[@mraide]

Painting epic was a bitch back in the day - of course those miniatures have a lot more detail, so well done to enjoy the process

[@stevenhombrados1530]

15mm 40k armies! Cool!

[@ripstainmcripstain905]

Pretty cool!

[@kaibe5241]

What light is that?

[@MiniatureMasterClass]

Where did you get the T-shirt from?

[@ThePickleJar]

Mt Golden Demon one? I got it at Warhammer World when I entered Golden Demon last year

[@MiniatureMasterClass]

@@ThePickleJar Thanks!

[@miniaturefun-guy]

Cool video. Perfect for a Saturday afternoon with a coffee

[@apostlepaintingminis]

Love the content, keep it coming mate!!

[@echtalion]

Are these minis for sale?

[@cabe_bedlam]

Are those Measuring Whappy-Sticks? 😍

[@ThePickleJar]

Hahaha, they are indeed!

[@Winter420]

you have amazing hair

[@ThePickleJar]

Thanks very much :)

[@nvcn86]

they're so tiny! they're growing on me...

[@neilatkinson174]

So we have epic back after 25 years, how long before mordhiem is relaunched

[@NewSquallor]

Ugh. Way too many tiny. Need new cyber-eyes to do that.

[@janjordens7343]

Looks like a chinese (slav####) labour clip for bourdgames

[@ThePickleJar]

I'm not sure what that means but...thanks?

[@janjordens7343]

@ThePickleJar just a bad joke 😅. Loved the video and just had to comment.

[@FELLCHARONGAMES]

But what about the rules? 😅

[@ThePickleJar]

I'll be honest, I haven't even opened the rule book :)

[@jeffholt9437]

Matt Berry (does Warhammer) anyone?

[@EpyonCF]

Barrels not drilled, 0/10 j/k

[@fatmaru]

Nice, actually looks fun!

[@JainZar1]

Been playing Epic since AT released, so I am hoping that my current 3D printed Epic Ultramarines will still look good next to the new ones.