Idolatry in the Kenyan 🇰🇪 Church Masquerading as Honour Culture

[@faithnjine440]

The message is on point. This culture is nauseating for sure. I have struggled finding a church without this culture.

[@ErnestWamboye]

@@faithnjine440 I’m sorry. Where are you? I could try recommend a few good churches.

[@carolinembuthia7408]

Great teaching. Sober and foundational. Not even Peter deserves to be idolised. He too was rebuked by Paul despite having walked with Jesus. We are called to servant leadership.

[@ErnestWamboye]

So true!

[@okothr1114]

I was just watching The art of war by Tiphani Montgomery and Kevin LA Ewing and they were talking about idolatry in our churches,everyone should really be alert, thanks Ernest for being bold people should be vigilant

[@ErnestWamboye]

Amen!

[@calebmaangi]

Thank you, Ernest, this is profound.

[@ErnestWamboye]

@@calebmaangi karibu

[@marcemn696]

Thank you so much for putting this out! In agreement 💯 and couldn't have put it any better. We need to amplify this to the highest of volume!!! Let's be Biblical! Baraka tele Ernest!

[@jdraful]

It is TIME!!! 👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾 we are in a new season. The Bride has to be spotless and pure. A shaking is coming upon The Church, our postures have to be renewed in Christ. The Holy Spirit our helper will be our help in that season.

[@ErnestWamboye]

@@jdraful amen!

[@McRueOloo]

Bruh....Si umeshout! The volume iko Max.....and the Truth is Truthing! Wueeeh. God have mercy on us for creating idols in the name of God 🙆‍♂

[@ErnestWamboye]

Amen! Amen! Wacha rush out 😂

[@gracenangabo8635]

Wuehhh! Thank you Ernest for obeying God in bringing this to the Church. Let the words of Christ sit with us. "He who has ears, let him hear what the Spirit says to the churches."

[@ErnestWamboye]

@@gracenangabo8635 amen!

[@hadassahnjeri3332]

Theeen, there's those churches that you cannot become an elder if they view you as without "clout", money, influence, political/social influence. To an extent of appointing immature believers as elders(who are doctrine custodians) leaving out mature sober but "less influential" brethren. This too is idolatry

[@ErnestWamboye]

@@hadassahnjeri3332 Indeed!

[@JosephOkwiry]

weeeh wat a sobering teaching! We have idolized MOG too much. aki may the Lord forgive us.

[@spiritoflifeinchristminist9764]

Where alot of churches n brethren have failed by listening to old serpent n ignoring direct command of YAHESHUA the LORD... I know we are to honour our mentors but not at the expense of disobeying/ dishonouring the LORD CHRIST commands... *Matthew 23:9,12* [9] *Do not call anyone on earth your father; for One is your Father, He who is in heaven* . [12] *And whoever exalts himself will be humbled, and he who humbles himself will be exalted* .

[@ErnestWamboye]

@@spiritoflifeinchristminist9764 amen

[@kennethtibi8097]

Not many talk about this issues,in Africa this thing is so much,am glad that you have brought it forth nd shed light...Thanks

[@ErnestWamboye]

@@kennethtibi8097 Amen

[@catherineangwenyi1226]

Amen for speaking out the truth boldly. May the Lord help us. If you find time look for a book called THE GREAT CONTROVERSY, you can get it online and get to read the history of the church and how the Lord is working. I pray it will be a blessing to you as well.

[@raem1688]

Wow 👏. Very sober and necessary teaching. Loyalty idolatry, we have become more leader conscious than sheep conscious

[@ErnestWamboye]

Well said!

[@nancynkm]

Thank you for speaking out. This idolizing of so called MoG, in the name of honor, is just too much! Yes, judgement and exposure of the false ones & "demi gods" is coming and they will go down together with those who protect and defend them.

[@Terry-ln1nl]

Great message! It's true, this honour gospel came from Nigeria, and it's unfortunate that what was meant to be a good thing metamorphosed into idolatry. I cringe any time I see nigerians lying prostrate before their men of God. In Kenya we have also misunderstood honor and have idolized men. It's sad that it has led to lots of abuse and manipulation of the flock by those that have been idolized.May the Lord cleanse his church and help us all.

[@ErnestWamboye]

@@Terry-ln1nl true!

[@judymuthoni8692]

Ah, Ernest! I was once in a fellowship where a friend of mine was told by a pastor (we had a long distance trip) not to carry me in her car but instead to carry another pastor and she considered a greater opportunity for ministry. The pastor being carried was well aware that that happened and I was told to not even show up. And my 'friend' obeyed that. Needless to say, I lost the friendship and left the fellowship immediately because for me that's far from being Christlike. I understand this message well well.

[@ErnestWamboye]

Oh dear! Poor girl! I’m so sorry. Let’s stand firm

[@hadassahnjeri3332]

This message should trend! I once was praying for myself thinking I have a serious "authority" problem. I was trying to make sense of people bowing, kneeling, putting hands together "🙏" ,looking for a certain man of God to pray certain graces over them in a manner that bestores the power on the MOG and not of God etc. This was conditioned sometimes I attended a Nigerian led fellowship consistently while on campus holidays. I had to leave the fellowship but I struggled with the honor thing. Till I was delivered from this idolatry. I felt so exposed that I prayed to never be famous... wrong prayer focus though, but I felt so bad about the idolatry so much to never want to be the idol. I think I am overcoming it. Looking at it from the other side (of the idol), there's a whole circumcision of the heart needed-you never know you are proud until you are hurt by being denied recognition. Keep the sermons coming😊

[@ErnestWamboye]

@@hadassahnjeri3332 oh wow! I am so sorry

[@wanjamainaj.5130]

Yuck! I feel you sissy... I'm really sorry

[@KenyanFortitudefitness]

This is profound! I couldn’t agree more. Thanks for the exposition. It’s about time we call a spade a spade!

[@ErnestWamboye]

@@KenyanFortitudefitness Asante

[@isaacrurengo4690]

It has been a really long time I got such straight talk. Thank you deeply and may the good Lord richly bless you.

[@ErnestWamboye]

@@isaacrurengo4690 amen!

[@elizabethnduta8105]

I agree with you completely, rarely do church "leaders" care of sheep growth spiritualy but misuse / mislead them to "honor" them more than necessary

[@ErnestWamboye]

@@elizabethnduta8105 so true

[@nancywagi4776]

Finally, someone has spoken my unspoken words in my heart, always felt very uneasy with tapping on anointing and "honor " language in some churches

[@ErnestWamboye]

Amen Nancy! Nice to see you here

[@nancywagi4776]

​@@ErnestWamboye thank you. You are an inspiration 🎉

[@joendirangu86]

Isaiah 42:8-9 " I am the Lord; this is my name! I will not give my glory to another or my praise to idols. See, the former things have taken place, and new things I declare; before they spring into being, I announce them to you." Isaiah 46: 8-10 "Remember this, fix it in mind, take it to heart, you rebels. Remember the former things, those of long ago; I am God, and there is no other; I am God, and there is none like me. I make known the end from the beginning, from ancient times, what is still to come. I say: my purpose will stand, and I will do all that I please. Joshua 24:14-15 "Now fear the Lord and serve him with all faithfulness. Throw away the gods of your forefathers who worshipped beyond the river and in Egypt and serve the Lord. But if serving the Lord seems undesirable to you, then choose for yourselves this day whom you will serve, whether the gods your forefathers served beyond the river, or the gods of the amorites, in whose land you are living. But as for me and my household, we will serve the Lord. Jeremiah 17:10 "I the Lord search and examine the mind, to reward a man to his conduct, according to what his deeds deserve." A soul searching and reflective message, a double edge sword and a pivotal point to draw each man back to the cross and to the risen king jesus. Thank you brother in christ 🙏

[@ErnestWamboye]

Amen, amen and amen!

[@irynnek]

I laugh everytime I hear the phraces " graces, dimensions, anointings* associated with so called " men of God" or generals because they are words used to manipulate the flock. Earnest kindly speak into this doctrine of anointing oil, prayer mantles, grave soaking , prayer water,salt etc that is being peddled in the church

[@ErnestWamboye]

It is all unbiblical! Hopefully I will do more videos.

[@queensgambit5496]

I have been a victim of such churches, the churches would give us stickers, annointing oil, water etc at a fee. I was completely sold out into that doctrine to be honest I couldn't see any problem until the day j decided to seek the Lord Jesus. In the process of wanting to know the Lord I found him and he had mercy on me. He began teaching me his truth and opened my eyes to see the idols I had gathered for myself. I even had to leave those churches after he made me understand they were not teaching Jesus. It's now 3 years and I have had to unlearn all false doctrines. God is Holy and he demands us to be Holy. It's a serious radical change. As a woman I had to let go of Jezebel products too the fake hairs nails pants. It's a journey. Indeed narrow is the way and few find it.

[@jumageetee2180]

Any true Jew would never bow to anyone/anything other than Yahweh. The Christian is a true Jew, we only bow/prostrate before God.

[@IamMUZEYI]

I am in love with your sharing 1st time! Blessings from 🇺🇬

[@ErnestWamboye]

Thank you

[@JaneWaweru]

Thank you Earnest. It's time we check where we accord honor

[@Bradchacha]

Thank you. It's been disturbing me for a while. And this is why.. May the Lord give us wisdom in this trying time. May we seek Him first...

[@ErnestWamboye]

@@Bradchacha Amen

[@ruthkuria2912]

Wooh! Good teaching,

[@ErnestWamboye]

Asante. God be praised!

[@shilarida3646]

Kindly try posting more often. I look forward hearing the unaldurated word of God. Where have you been all my life

[@ErnestWamboye]

@@shilarida3646 asante. I will

[@ruthsarah8258]

deep. Mensa Otabil preaches this too and im happy for the reconfirmation

[@ErnestWamboye]

Amen

[@paulinemugo712]

Quite spot on. Abroad people are busy idolizing money and shiftwork.

[@ireneatienoochieng7379]

Good 👍

[@Judy_Vic]

The fellowship had so much sexual scandals but people are so brainwashed that they can't see and walk away

[@ErnestWamboye]

So sad

[@CC-2020]

Great teaching

[@ErnestWamboye]

Amen

[@ErnestWamboye]

Thank you so much

[@marywangari9504]

So sad that many have been let astray by this kind of preachers.

[@margaretwambui8213]

I concur we have idolise men more than God that's why in the social media people are insulting others becoz their pastor has been accused of something but hardly do they condemn those who blasphem the name of God

[@ErnestWamboye]

So true! God have mercy on us.

[@JPGMintl]

Glory to God. Very true

[@ErnestWamboye]

Amen

[@sapaniwanga9333]

Very true

[@CC-2020]

Wow

[@nancywere4065]

This is the truth, i thank God

[@ErnestWamboye]

Amen

[@AdrianaMuthoni-ds3yw]

Yes, this all about the "church"in Kenya the mixture!

[@ErnestWamboye]

Very true!

[@dorcaskagwiria7071]

There is a church I went to and they literally stopped the praise and worship session to welcome the guest man of God who had just arrived😢....

[@ErnestWamboye]

Wow! So sad!

[@AnnKanini]

Sad😮who's great God or their small god

[@safeworld2935]

This is just crazy

[@terrymuriungi7218]

I greee

[@blessedreigner8105]

Powerful!

[@ErnestWamboye]

Amen

[@richardkagoe3453]

Thanks for debunking one aspect of pulpit excesses. 'Honour' is a way of evading accountability. It is entrenched in congregations that are evolving into personality cults.

[@ErnestWamboye]

Amen

[@henrymusyoki9211]

😂😂, Enerst, you will be earnestly blacklisted and canceled. Why are you touching the anointed ones of God? The roots of the tares among wheat run so deep.

[@ErnestWamboye]

Hahaha! Kama mbaya mbaya!

[@AnnKanini]

The truth will set us free

[@CathyB-qq5tk]

Fearless in the land of the living. Keep on.

[@wausimutungi7163]

Spot on.

[@bishopdavidkamaudkk5292]

Very True WORD of God, this is why THE Lord led me to put as our church motto ___Philipians 2:9,,,,,have the same attitude as Chist had,,,,

[@ErnestWamboye]

@@bishopdavidkamaudkk5292 bless you Bishop!

[@jay-lz6xu]

Word!

[@afisalive1846]

In Nigeria their culture of honor from way back has been what we see in the church now. Kneeling laying prostate That's their day to day way of doing life church aside and if you dig deep into their practices that's how they've been showing honor since way back and I assume it was a seamless transition into the church for them. We have imported a tradition that isn't ours and probably that's what makes it seem as you imply. Is it wrong Ill leave that to my Ugandan sisters to decide. Yes we have a crop of Men of God who abuse it. But atleast I came to the conclusion that no doctrine is superior to the other as long as its in line with scripture and your revelation. We will never run short of what differs from what we base our doctrine on. when its wrong, we correct, in the mean time Kila mtu tu afanye huduma yake.

[@blessedreigner8105]

Very true,it's idolatry not honour

[@ErnestWamboye]

Indeed

[@margaretwambui8213]

Jeremiah 13:12-27 we have been filled with drunkenness for refusing to be filled with wine

[@ErnestWamboye]

It is true!

[@okothr1114]

Leviticus 19:31 - familiar spirits in our church leaders and God is angered because of idolatry

[@manf6329]

You have mentioned doctrines... Doctrinally wrong.... What is doctrine and who puts them in place...? Based on experience I think doctrines only favors a certain type of people in church... Doctrines have become a way to condemn, excute judgment and punishments, disgrace people, favourism the list is endless ..... And not necessarily bring people to christ.. Can you talk about doctrines?

[@RandolphOyiejoiOburu]

Lets be biblical - I like that

[@rK-em4yy]

❤

[@achienghellen3910]

That's what causes people to look for mantles😂. For heaven's sake we have Jesus. Everyone should be honoured to the glory of God. This idea of Fathers and all is faulty for is it even possible fot everyone to have a relationship with the pastor? Your only covering is Christ. I can see it now. What if the pastor moves to another church or dies? The covering disappears ama😂. That's why our faith should be in Christ. When Paul encountered Christ he didn't go to Peter to confirm his calling. Isaiah 2:22, "Why do you trust man who has but a breath in his nostril? Why do you hold him in such great esteem?" 1 John 2:27 - "But the anointing that you received from him abides in you, and you have no need that anyone should teach you. But as his anointing teaches you about everything, and is true, and is no lie-just as it has taught you, abide in him." The anointing is in everyone who accepts Christ. 1 Peter 5:1-4, "So I exhort the elders among you, mas a fellow elder and na witness of the sufferings of Christ, as well as a partaker in the glory that is going to be revealed: 2 oshepherd the flock of God that is among you, exercising oversight,1 pnot under compulsion, but willingly, as God would have you;2 not for shameful gain, but eagerly; 3 not domineering over those in your charge, but being examples to the flock." It would be unfortunate to go around disrespecting people. Just be sober and alert lest you raise another god for yourself. May everything for all believers flow from Christ, the head over everything for the church. Amen

[@ErnestWamboye]

@@achienghellen3910 amen! So good!

[@emilywanjiru838]

Honor culture is not biblical. One of the doctrines of the endtime to remove honor from God to man. That's exactly what Lucifer desired most. This is the sermon for those on the narrow and straight. Not popular & but sincere truth.

[@ErnestWamboye]

@@emilywanjiru838 indeed

[@DemocratizeTheGospel]

Good insights however in my view it is short of getting to the root cause. How did iniquity enter the world? Adam and Eve disobeyed God in the matter of the tree of good and evil...when they (Adam and Eve) believed the serpent more than they believed in God...and moving forward iniquity was rooted in man and became a quandary, a perplexity that even the law could not cure. (Galatians 3:24) Similarly, the idolatry you are describing entered the Church because Christians are in disobedience to Jesus, the Lord of the Church, on the very weighty matter of jews. Christians believe jews more than they believe in Jesus Christ the Lord of the Church in essence making the devil the lord of the Church. Just like the disobedience of Adam and Eve made the devil the lord of this world (Luke 4:6). Which idolatry is greater than that?? Christians believe jews (that they are Gods chosen people simply predicated on ethnicity) more than they believe in Jesus Christ the Lord of the Church who clearly stated no one can be chosen of God unless they have accepted Him (Jesus) John 14:6 and further made it abundantly clear that anyone that claims they are chosen of God but have not accepted Jesus are sons of the devil out to fulfill the lusts of the devil i.e., steal kill and destroy (John 8:31-44 / 2 John 1:7-11). All that you are describing are just symptoms of the root cause; the root cause being that the Church is in disobedience to Jesus the Lord of the Church and therefore committed/pledged to idolatry. One cannot cure a root cause by attending to the symptoms; just like the law could not cure iniquity but only attended to its symptoms. (Galatians 3:24) To cure the root cause in Church today one needs to learn and teach Christians the insidiousness of zionism (Christians accepting Jews as Gods Chosen people simply based on ethnicity). A view Christians should strongly disavow as a matter of urgency and condemn in the strongest terms possible at every opportunity.

[@JustMe-nq7dz]

Exalting someone above others is not biblical.

[@ThukuWakogi]

This is wrong. Your views and verses are wrong you are taking them out of context. This is misleading and it's only bringing more harm to your church. If as a church we do not choose to honor, we are choosing to dishonor. There is no inbetween. And there is a reaction for either choosing to honor or to dishonor. The leaders are as human as we are, but who are you to point out and claim that they have done wrong and hold it against them. The leaders you attack raised the father's that nurtured you spiritually, if it's not for them, you wouldn't have been saved. It's the responsibility of each person to watch their walk with God. You are responsible for your walk with God. I am responsible for my walk with God. They are responsible for their walk with God. Every knee will kneel down before God, We and our leaders. They will be answerable before God with what they do with their power and actions, so as we, but we have to respect the office and power they carry. Cause there is a reason God choose them. Every authority comes from God and being against authority is being against God. Honor is very paramount for God is a God of honor. You can't stir up author's to be dishonourable towards their leaders, the people God has given to his people to direct them. Why won't you point out that every single time God wanted to do something in the bible, he raised a person, and through that person change came. And if the person was rejected, God did not do much for the people. We need to honor the people God has brought into our lives.

[@CathyB-qq5tk]

Wake up @ThukuWakogi Majority of Churches all over the world are preaching the doctrine of devils, Kenya included and Isaiah prophesied it… Isaiah 56: 9-12 They (individuals on the pulpit) are out to gain for themselves and that is one of the reasons they seek honor because they feel they are far above the parishioners.

[@okothr1114]

Dear Thuku please be informed, there's a line between honor and worshipping,we have turned to worship in the name of Honor,we have turned to forgetting God and people pleasing

[@faithtalkwitheunice5497]

I get both of you two. However, he wasn't saying that we should be dishonorable. but rather highlighted on how we exaggerate honor and its dangers to the church.as much as we honor men, Lets not forget we serve a jealous God. Honoring men more than God amounts to idolatry.

[@jay-lz6xu]

Leave those who don't want to hear.

[@okothr1114]

@@faithtalkwitheunice5497 exactly well said