If Controller is so Good, then why don't you Swap to it?

[@imkyro3120]

I love how we’re nerfing stompees because jumping against controller players is too oppressive, but this is totally fine

[@cheetahofthewind13]

its crazy how the only true check to controllers not even counter but FUCKING CHECK to them is mobility and we're just nerfing it, then again stompees changes don't do shit to stasis or arc hunters

[@Eragon530]

As a controller player, I didn’t even think stompees were that oppressive. Bungie just makes random ass nerfs sometimes. What they should be nerfing/fixing is that damn target lock on Immortal but nooo

[@BretMFNTaylor]

@@Eragon530 no one but 50 year old d2 dads that have the reaction time of a sloth complain its just basically them making some random bullshit excuse to nerf them

[@chrisflipsbalis1070]

facts lmao

[@YungSinatraa]

Keeping track of hunter on stompe not a problem they making shi up

[@Mechacookie]

Bro, sound track and editing was on point. Fun to watch, super entertaining, and talking about a concern that top players crutch on controller; that was just a cherry on the top.

[@PanduhGG]

Glad you enjoyed the video

[@get_hard5867]

Dude sniping with m&k and with controller are totally different. Its like an entriely different game, when the consistency of amount of snipes you get with controller is amazing

[@mrsickwick]

This ain't controller my man, this is you Panduh. You just diffy my guy

[@xchirs_]

I’ve seen a lot of comments about St0mp-EE5. I didn’t started playing on PC/MnK until like a year and a half ago (I’ve played since launch). I had issues tracking stompee hunters for the first 2 years until I started figuring it out. If you listen for the jump movement and understand your environment and hunter playstyle, you can anticipate it. It’s the same with dealing with floaty warlocks. If you don’t adjust or look for ways to improve your playstyle, you need to look in the mirror instead of blaming others for putting in the time to become better at their craft. I wish people would believe more in themselves to become better instead of blaming others for putting in the time.

[@NoName-qk2jf]

It’s not that deep, it’s just a video game like bros having a mid life crisis bc of destiny 😭🙏

[@xchirs_]

@@NoName-qk2jf this was 8 months ago. lmao now I would just tell people to buy a Cronus

[@NoName-qk2jf]

@@xchirs_ yeah but seriously? “People would believe in themselves more”, “you need to look in the mirror instead”. Like it’s just a game bro 😭 all you gotta do is take a break

[@xchirs_]

@@NoName-qk2jf to each their own. this is the same mentality that creates cheating in gaming instead of getting better

[@NoName-qk2jf]

@@xchirs_ yeah but to stare yourself at the mirror just bc you got bamboozled by a stompee hunter like…. Doesn’t that sound rather, idk, strange? Maybe even a skill issue?

[@nobl.]

I have nothing against controller it’s just the aim assist that becomes stronger the more frames you have. So when a good controller player on pc who already has good aim has the additional aim assist boost when playing 200+ fps it’s essentially soft aimbot. Which is why they can play a super high sens but hit everything.

[@dylanholm9995]

Yup. Xbox and ps players can’t hit shots like this this easily

[@seabass2651]

Copium

[@kamewoni]

High sens is trash on actual console and controller with an average tv screen. People really blind to all the various setups people have.

[@GoProIMAX]

I played bf3 on console with max sens and had over 30% accuracy with rifles/smgs. People saying "uh you can't do that on console" are just bad imo

[@desuzx]

@@kamewoni and yet destiny is garnering towards trash players like that. We can talk about the various setups in all games. Destiny is not the most prominent and you do not need the best of the best. whereas valorant or CS you will need it to reach a high rank. All you need is a roller. Just accept roller is op and people like you are just bad at the game People really are blind to various of games available.

[@SwarthyD]

I began my switch to MnK last season, but at the start of this season I realized with smgs, sidearms and snipers aim assist itself is just meta right now and I was almost paralyzing myself by trying to learn MnK….. so I went back to controller so I can have my 90% headshot sniper crit lol

[@hrredpath]

Sadge

[@fotis3v480]

With so much aim assist in d2 snipers are free even on a fighting pad. I sniped a little in bf2042 and my god it felt awful compared to d2 giving me free headshots every second flick

[@WalkinWhiskey]

Just saying bro, do that on a console not pc, dont use opening shot on the sniper and go againsy real comp. See if its the same

[@PanduhGG]

Commit to mnk 😔

[@blurD2_]

You sound hot

[@actualakio8733]

Do your next tournament on controller please. I wanna see the results. Trials randoms aren’t exactly the same imo.😊

[@ryoukobe]

Not uncommon to have the sniper be controller on a scrim team. In fact I’m pretty sure a lot of teams do that

[@kuhmnmi]

@@ryoukobepretty much every team has roller on snipes

[@danieles146]

Lmao your point has no standing, he’s making this video for the general population. Not everyone does tournaments, that aim asssist really getting to your head. Funniest part is tourneys and scrims do have controller players rolling a sniper. Cope harder

[@actualakio8733]

@@danieles146 okay I just wanna see the video. that okay?

[@clavoschizo]

@@ryoukobe there is only 2 teams who have mnk snipers 💀the rest are just rullers

[@Cerberus1141]

Opening shot/moving target putting in work

[@IAmTrashhy]

Controller is significantly easier considering most of us grew up on that input. MnK is a whole beast to master and if you can master MnK then you’re an elite player. I have tried MnK but I just don’t have enough space to play and my desk is made of glass and I don’t wanna risk breaking it so I’ll wait until I get a better desk and mousepad and mouse

[@avxnull9839]

i play on my ipad and my thigh lmao

[@llIlIlIIIl]

Panduh on the sticks? That’s a scary sight.

[@legoshi6531]

And this is why i believe TF2 is probably still the best pvp videogame to exist, no weird wonky bullet physics or debates about controllers, either you suck or you dont lol

[@Huey-f8l]

Valorant

[@legoshi6531]

​@@Huey-f8l ass game, gross amalgam of TF2, CSGO, and Overwatch

[@L3vit]

@@Huey-f8l hey king you spelled csgo wrong you forgot your 👑 though take care

[@AveryHorton116]

Personally, the argument should not be about which input is ‘better’. The issue is having mixed inputs in lobbies. Honestly all I want a is a system like COD Warzone where you are matched based on input and are locked to that input for the match. Unless you queue in mixed input lobby, the 2 inputs stay separate

[@flamepygmy]

100%

[@jaceareleous5160]

Yeah that is so easy to add to a game, why haven't they done that already (sarcasm).

[@phonkydude1618]

FINALLY THANK YOU SOME ONE SAY IT

[@WetikoD2]

I mainly run controller with 20 sens and I always get baffled as to how players complain about not looking upward to shoot a higher target. Its really isnt that hard when you play the game for damn near a decade

[@JA-si6sj]

You don’t even need high sensitivity it’s just game sense with knowing when to look up. I see people who run like 5 sense and still go crazy

[@ioverslept.]

For more than a week* maybe

[@flexu8699]

you NEED to try occluded finality on controller, its just so busted, the high zoom and opening shot just make the hitbox unfathomably large

[@Oathfps]

Occluded legit aims for you, it needs to be illegal

[@klymaster9825]

If you gonna use a PC you should use MnK it's that simple...

[@bug3684]

Agreed

[@ajsultani1636]

The only controller I complain about is a Cronus/XIM. No issues or gripes at all against normal controller players. Use what you want. Both have advantages. Cronus/XIM . . . these people need bans and fast.

[@phillipmaloney523]

Nah you got it bro, the world doesn’t need you on controller 😂

[@Nvyingme]

sadly screaming into the void

[@Sh7i__]

this is fine but they are nerfing stompees 💀

[@maxreyes3097]

W

[@Melbeezo]

If they nerf controller aim assist it would make playing on consoles virtually impossible

[@DirewuIf]

“you gotta stop with all that toxicity” controller : *chanting* One Of Us..One Of Us…One Of Us

[@phonkydude1618]

One Of Us...

[@sonicshyper]

I miss those times, that I used to be on Console player

[@luv7822]

Damn the hunters are madd

[@piffb101boiz4]

As a controller player myself this was very entertaining

[@Battou62]

The disparity between controller and MnK is discouraging. Also, the amount of body shots I got from head shot snipes this weekend on MnK makes me want to drop MnK.

[@weebtrash3376]

Controllers only get reticle friction which makes your reticle slow down when moving so it makes it easier to hit shots on moving targets. Mnk has more auto aim aka aim assist, stability and accuracy. The situation you’re describing has literally nothing to do with controller being better because shit like that happens too on sticks, it’s aim assist that affects it

[@ericarmstrong8207]

Randy at the Whole Foods lol

[@GrayAndGanjaGangOfficial]

bro has the high school dxd song as outro

[@emmanuelespinoza8233]

We really need a pool of MNK and Rollers separate on Destiny, im so tired of this shit as MNK player.

[@temuthy]

Controller is viable but I feel like the lack of options like deadzone, button real estate, etc., isn’t worth for the mobility, ability to escape, and recoil negation you can have on keyboard. Granted, games like Apex or CoD aim assist is definitely overtuned, but I feel like in Destiny its just too niche to be worth in my opinion Edit: Not to mention, in scrims/FACEIT they’re not gonna let you run stuff like smg peacekeeper with snipe or anything, you’ll be on hc shotty or one snipe if allowed. At that point, I’d take mnk. But pubs/trials where there’s no restrictions, sure controller is a strong option

[@PanduhGG]

Apex and Cod are 100% better for roller than d2 aswell as there is no comp scene for d2 so it doesn't really matter but still, game is just free on sticks

[@SH-bm4fn]

Have you watched the contents of this video?

[@temuthy]

@@SH-bm4fn Just because he got a few snipes on bots who straightlined him or weren’t even looking at him doesn’t mean controller is broken. You can not tell me anyone he faced in this video was remotely decent. That’s not to discredit Panduh’s ability on roller, its just unfair to say “he killed a lot of people pretty easily, therefore controller is broken”. If the situation was flipped and Panduh mained controller and swapped to MNK for this video, would MNK be broken because he got all these kills?

[@SH-bm4fn]

@@temuthy but he wouldn't be able to get those kills on mnk if he was a controller main with 2 hours of mnk experience

[@BretMFNTaylor]

@@temuthy dude I hate to break it to you but with a sniper the controller aim assist is just straight unfair. This week alone ive been sniped through flinch way more than i can count by people who just refuse to miss since the aim assist on snipers are so fucking high. As long as these double unflinching mods and mad aim assist still exist i feel like I have to put on NTTE and drop whatever i was using because they just dont flinch and high TTK weapons rn are the meta. Though im fine with everything else on controller since the skill gap from mnk and controller with everything else is minimal.

[@paledale6652]

People need to remember games are made for fun and entertainment. So much pointless arguing over things as small as what input people prefer for a VIDEO GAME lol

[@Snotzalotz]

It’s absolutely fucking sad, there’s clearly huge advantages to using both, use whatever the fuck you’re comfortable with, as long as you aren’t using a XIM/Cronus then it’s completely fine, this debate is just childish, it’s like the PC vs console crap people like to argue about, play on and use what the fuck you want as long as it doesn’t give you a stupidly massive advantage.

[@danieles146]

@@Snotzalotz the debate is that controller users are refusing to accept the fact the amount of skill controller aim assist removes from actually aiming in a game. Sure you can live in your fairytale world of telling yourself that you’re a good player and keep playing controller, but don’t deny the facts.

[@phonkydude1618]

​@@danieles146 ._. The world would be a better if you just shut your fucking mouth man if you are good player with controller you are a good player or you are trash just trash THE END the input its just personal preference

[@IcyFlareon]

To all the people baby raging in the comments. Both have aim assist, controller has reticle friction, while mnk has way better movement, so both are viable plus this isn't competitive and never will be y'all need to chill.

[@aaronv251]

To be fair this looks like MnK Panduh. They’re always headshots either way it goes.🤷

[@cristianlg2000]

Tournament in controller, one thing is play against casual players, and another thing against top 1%

[@PanduhGG]

Most tourney players are controller players.

[@uzifan88]

I matched a dude with my friend who we believed was cheating and had a 98% headshot accuracy on a telescope but we just realized he on controller 😭🙏

[@Passixnplayer]

It was fun matching you this weekend

[@philipharris-smith5889]

I wonder if the questionable input devices more prevalent on PC have promoted a steady buff in controller utility in the hope that PC and controller tournaments become commonplace.

[@thecupcakelord5103]

I play on Console and I want to play on MnK and get a Pc so bad but I can’t afford one😢

[@ricekrispy6310]

Fps games on pc shouldn’t have controller support. If you wanna use a controller on a fps game get a console. Even then the input based match making needs to be stronger. People saying this doesn’t count cause this is controller on pc are absolutely fucking delusional acting like ps5 and series x don’t get 120 fps in pvp.

[@coreysghostglowmask8650]

Controller on D2 pc vs D2 console is so different... the aim assist feel so sticky on pc vs on series x for example

[@KIiph]

Ain’t no way someone who knows what their talking about, RESPECT 🫡

[@track_head2545]

Comment streak: 27 Activity: eating buffalo wings

[@Gooldye]

Im a mnk player with almost 3k and i can al say going back to sticks is feeling so good

[@xthecre8or735]

You are so cracked sniping

[@ned9542]

Can confirm, I'm ass at sniping and haven't sniped on the sticks since d1 but I whipped out my controller and plugged it into my PC and instantly got headshot after headshot

[@rook529]

Evil Panduh roller arc confirmed

[@jaydehuling600]

Console controller fine. Now pc controller….. no.

[@pedrogiovannesouza1863]

Idk, as a ps4 player with locked 30 fps and 75 FOV this entirely debate and video feels like i’m a player carried by a controller and got no skill at all. (This sucks, really) Let’s be real, guys. Aim a sniper and getting those headshots (yk it is a edited highlight video, so it really feels like AMAZING) is not everything in destiny pvp… Panduh is already an s-tier pvp player, and he have all that skill and fast thinking to make good decisions and all those things. So choose! If you want a better movements go on mouse and keyboard, if you want a better aim assist go on controller. Just don’t disrespect other players. peace

[@rycuh]

Revenge of the sith was such a good movie

[@aero_35]

@Panduh whats your controller settings? Sens, button layout, deadzone settings, whatever. Im certainly interested.

[@YoHester]

Did you play controller in PC lobbies or on console ?

[@PanduhGG]

PC

[@YoHester]

@@PanduhGG niceee this is impressive gameplay for PC lobbies !!

[@jjmah7]

This was fun af to watch! Curious though, outside of highlights, how much higher do you think your KD would be if you switched permanently to controller? I have a feeling it wouldn’t be quite as good. I feel like your mnk skills have far surpassed aim assist lol

[@mahncodm1238]

Panduh is really good but controller has consistency that mnk doesn’t, controller is more consistent so higher kd

[@kimpoy1033]

Almost thought panduh was going to drop a apex video

[@kennethgray8825]

Love this xD Always great Panduh!

[@PanduhGG]

❤️

[@prettysoIdier]

He’s already a top PvP player. Give him a controller and put him into console lobbies of course he’ll be good. Was this on PC lobbies? Then I’ll be impressed if it was PC.

[@PanduhGG]

It was PC lobbies.

[@Mxlek.]

Great video, quick question, is the movement gap between mnk and roller really that big in your opinion?

[@DelcosFinest]

Yes. Movement on controller is limited to your thumbs where on mnk you have an entire arm to flick. There are settings on your PC Where it allows you to flick as hard as you want, but you only do a 180 Degree turn but at insane speeds. Also on mnk low stability isn't really a big issue

[@chillidari-9392]

Movement doesn't make up for the soft aimbot controller provides unless you are playing top 0.1% of faceit lobbies

[@DelcosFinest]

@@chillidari-9392 pc also has aim assist bro bungie themselves confirmed this. You can't say that controller is better in every single way because that is not true there are drawbacks to both. and having good movement can prevent people from hitting shots.

[@hoodierell1669]

@@DelcosFinest pc players swear they don’t have anything helping them aim as well they just braid dead 💀

[@frustratedlemur]

@@hoodierell1669yeah there’s aim assist on mnk but there’s aim bot on controller. My mouse has never gotten dragged across the screen the same way it did when I was on controller.

[@eliasgrunewald2066]

Yooo panduh is on the juice

[@Indorichie]

the anakin and obi wan moment caught me laughing so hard

[@xaviermoreau3092]

You only matched robots 😑

[@theeldestremnant258]

The people who complain about mnk while using a controller are the people who don’t mess with their bindings. Just switch your controller bindings to play better and you’ll stop complaining.

[@DevonHumpert]

Seriously my only sum of all tears in Rumble was me being lazy playing D2 on the PS5/couch. Movement goes to shit but you don't miss on controller.

[@jorgee1501]

I'm actually switching to using the controller and it's too easy. I improve my aim a lot, I lost a bit of movement, but the aim I got far exceeds it even now with control I managed to reach the ascendant competitive level.

[@Guhc]

As an m&k player who has put in over 3k hours in d2, I find myself loosing to players who haven't even spent a third of the amount of time i have put into d2. I plugged in an old Xbox one controller and it amazes me that it is easier to hit a head shot on a sniper than it is to hit a normal body shot on a handcannon.

[@Cryptor_AG]

We all saw the tweet 😂😂😂

[@dave7474]

Levelling my drang right now. I just got a new keyboard but FUCK IT im plugging in the ROLLER

[@Un-motivated]

Thank.s for making this, now I can throw it at any of my clan members if they start saying aim assist doesn't matter.

[@MrJuggy1985]

Cant do sticks for anything now, it just feels awful after mnk for so long

[@SEALteam6Operator]

Literally jump over their head and you win lmao.

[@A.G.A.T.D]

They both have their down side imagine controllers with less aim assist or the same as pc going against a pc player I think you know whose winning

[@Au-Li-]

Mnk, not pc. Pc is not exclusively mnk but your point is very tru

[@mc-ve6ue]

I love playing controller just to hear MnK players whine,complain and meltdown over it. Its hilarious

[@Orieoh]

Mr. pandy, I’m glad to announce you as the most entertaining controller pvp player ik (you only dethroned sergio bc he’s mute) I generally find controller gameplay to be slower and clunky, which makes it less entertaining to watch imo, but you’re among the few that go against that lol

[@hombregordo5299]

I’ve been playing roller for years and he’s better than me 😭

[@ypantho]

why cant leg do this when we need him

[@Hataraiii]

I feel like a bot now

[@Extemistloa]

All the world issues will be solved as soon as they need AA in every game

[@VickTheDwarf]

As a person who has played on console my whole life I wanna say that if I could turn off aim assist I would. The amount of times someone has run in-front of me and my scope goes to them , it’s annoying

[@dranktf]

That’s not how AA works in d2. What controllers get is reticle friction which slows the reticle when it is on someone.

[@haircutEXE]

It used to annoy me when I was on the sticks too, but the amount of times aim assist helped me hit shots was WAY more than the few times it took me off target.

[@VickTheDwarf]

@@dranktf well whatever it is it’s annoying asf

[@julamipol]

This is so balanced. Definitely not op at all , lmao

[@taylorbroyles2224]

I'm astounded at the amount of people in these comments that don't understand that you can use a controller on PC. This is not a PC vs console thing. It's controller vs mnk

[@riqqsosa1524]

That’s a fact

[@Vynlocke]

PC controller is crazy

[@Rhemi.]

Next video has to be shotgun on roller too

[@TylerDurdenXIII]

You can play whit left stick on controler for mouvements + your right hand on Mouse best of the both world 🤣

[@whatupdinosaur1209]

Half these comments dont even make sense... nice shots as usual Panduh

[@PanduhGG]

😊

[@phonkydude1618]

This comment section is full of people mad of a fucking input and don't want to accept they failures, but still we all love Panduh ❤

[@rb0042]

Is there a difference between PC controller and Console controller??

[@Au-Li-]

Yes very much, controller becomes significantly better the higher your frame rate is, so pc will have much stickier controller aim

[@Uchoobdood]

I’m still so pissed I didn’t get that ornament for drang

[@QuorsArchive]

Controller is seriously the easiest thing all u do is aim the tracking is just automatic don’t move the analog just stand their

[@Snotzalotz]

Such a stupid false needless comment, if that’s the case switch to controller if it gives you a big advantage?

[@Au-Li-]

@@Snotzalotz i mean he never said he didn’t use roller

[@ScotChef]

Goat controller bro 😂❤

[@lorddoomhammer6870]

The short answer to this video from my end is: Because i'm too old and I can't play controller in FPS games.

[@Before_the_storm_420]

In my opinion u are op af and not the controller aim assist 😂😂

[@dougcarey2233]

Side sniper is a good controller loadout.

[@LaDaLegend]

Lol cool vid but as a fan it’s just your highlights from you adapting to the controller. When they say this they mean play on controller in the high ascendent ranks comp games and trials. It’s not like we can tell your rank from here but still. Those games where if you were 5-4 and win that game it would have been more difficult or even harder to get off. It’s not like your making a full time switch to controller and we BOTH know why. It’s not a easy of use thing. It’s a difference in Skill ceiling of M&K Vs the the gap skill of controller.

[@ap3xwolf998]

What controller setting were you running? @panduh

[@HadesOGK]

I played mnk this weekend and dropped double my kd 😅

[@edwingrajeda7478]

i play in mk and controler and yes destiny 2 in controller is much easy and really better than mk

[@zarawte]

Sniping with a controller was so easy I swear

[@dseev9382]

How are you meleeing with no forward momentum?

[@brainbow6487]

even panduh agrees that if you think controller is too strong, you can just use it lmao

[@championredd]

Bro acting as if u wouldn’t be able to hit the same snipes on mnk the controller isn’t enabling anything

[@Veraafieds]

i get that controller is overturned on Pc but putting a clip of you being one of the best players dumpstering a .06 and a 0.8 KD player really doesn’t show anything lmao

[@sergeantrubber552]

playing on mnk in a game where theres aim assist is a complete handicap and I'll never understand how people even try to argue against that. "muh you can use your WHOLE ARM" yeah that doesnt make it better than the robot that literally aims for you i'm sorry

[@xcelestialdemon8245]

Breaking: person who plays video games professionally is good at videos games. More at 11.

[@icebrg.]

Controller on pc is different than console… higher frame rates make the aim assist more reliable, cause ya know, bungie 💀