If I do not forgive others, does that mean my sins are not forgiven? | GotQuestions.org

[@edgarmorales4476]

From the standpoint of God, everyone is already UNCONDITIONALLY FORGIVEN. The teachings on FORGIVENESS is about FORGIVING yourself and others, so that you can move on and NOT remain stuck in the pain of the past.

[@Charles-oh5uo]

Many people confuse unconditional grace with this concept

[@pray2getherwithAngelinaBara]

CHRISTIANS WHO DON'T FORGIVE OTHERS, SHOW THAT THEY HAVE NO IDEA HOW MUCH THEY HAVE BEEN FORGIVEN BY GOD.🙏🕊❤

[@Lovehashira5742]

My ex physically mentally and emotionally abused me and sexually assaulted me during our relationship he has abused me in front of my children I don't have it in me to forgive him I don't ever think I will! He's been to jail and when he got out he snarkily said to me oh you'll come back! but I never want to go back to that terrible life I had I don't think it's physically and mentally possible for me to even forgive that man for what he has done to me and my children so if it's a sin then I guess I'll go to hell ... My ex may as well be the devil Lucifer himself

[@МихаилРусский-ц8я]

Has he truly repented? There is zero examples in the Bible of anyone receiving forgiveness without having repented first. We are commanded to forgive “as God in Christ has forgiven us”. How has God in Christ forgiven us? Is repentance required from us to be forgiven by God in Christ? Absolutely. But God is ready to forgive and has already forgiven in His heart thru Jesus before the sinner repents. So we must forgive in our heart before the person repents. But if the person doesn’t repent, then he doesn’t receive your forgiveness. But if he repents, yet you haven’t forgiven him in your heart beforehand, then how will you be able to produce forgiveness the moment he repents? What we can do if the person doesn’t repent is shake the dust off our feet, let go, move on, and pray for the person.

[@DoNotLetThemStealYourJoy]

I'm sorry you're going through this but you need to find the courage to forgive even though he has not apologised. You can forgive him in your heart and pray to God to help your emotional wounds heal. I too have nearly 5 decades of abuse with the abuser still abusing. I have forgiven but still trying to understand why they're behaving like this. Then God spoke to me through the Holy Spirit only recently, that they're abusing because they haven't yet forgiven anyone who abused them before. What I can say is bitterness and hatred are vibes that attract demons that's why you hear of the abused victims wanting to harm themselves like suicide. To forgive someone is to free your mind and heart of the ill feelings you have towards that person. You will feel more of God's love, not that it wasn't there, it was but you didn't feel all of it when bitter. Forgiveness doesn't mean they have to repent first. They will never repent because they think they're in the right and want to still exert power over you. Forgiveness does not mean you are safe to interact with your abuser. No it is not safe. Just stay away. Delete his messages and block his calls. Safety first. Deleting messages without replying shows him he cannot have power over you. Since deleting without replying, my abuser communicates much less often than before.

[@krystaldipa-wc5gi]

Forgiveness doesn't mean to go back to a unhealthy situations be safe but forgive at the same time no bitter feelings ,gossip or resentment to another just give it to god and release them but yes you can stay away from anyone If you feel unsafe but just don't harvest resentment in your heart or it can grow like a seed planted of unforgiveness and harden ones actual heart to grow worse and worse of anger and hatred . I hope this helps 🙏

[@4tdaz]

@@МихаилРусский-ц8я "Father forgive them, they know not what they do" Moses asks God to forgive Israel when they commit idol worship. God forgives based on Moses' request not based on their repentance. I mean. So many. I could go on. You take one verse out of context and then view the entirety of scripture through that warped lens when you say that God was putting a condition on forgiveness in that verse. Instead that verse was about forgiving obediently even when we aren't ready for it simply because someone has asked for it. In fact, people asked Jesus if they should keep forgiving even if they keep sinning and repenting. It was about the willingness to follow. Remember when God said to "be therefore perfect," what perfection was he talking about...it was not a reference to being sinless. It was a kind of perfection. Look it up. It was MERCY.

[@Joshua-gk9bc]

I'm sorry for what happened to you ❤️ God loves you and wants to save you. Everyone needs forgiveness, whether it is this man who has done such bad things to you or me and you. Please don't let that stand between you and God 🙏

[@leosp3597]

Thanks. Glory to God

[@John3.16.ForGodSoLoved]

You should also listen to the below link which has proper context and is not deceptive

[@wensjoeliz722]

DOES NOT FORGIVE IS BECAUSE THINKS IS PERFECT ; OR THEY ARE GUILTY

[@reganoryan2292]

Thus is adding your own understanding to the text! It never says that it's relational so this is just an assumption

[@4tdaz]

What doesn't say what is relational? Literally, the most common metaphor in the Bible for the church is family. Is that not what you mean?

[@DNYS8N]

I agree but it’s disheartening to hear him quote John Calvin and then the follow up supporting perseverance as a requirement or one is not saved. It seems like it’s just the lay of the land.

[@paidtourist6563]

Thank you! I had a very very real experience with the love of God. Please hear my story... I grew up in the church and my dad was even a pastor for a while. But he had a very harsh life and was abusive as a result. His abuse plus some things I was going thru combined to be too much for me to handle. I almost killed myself when I was about 16 years old. I ended up not going thru with it, but I decided that I had only 1 option. If that didn't work, then I would go thru with it. My option was that I was going to leave Christianity, leave the Bible, and leave God. I decided that I was going to rebel and try to sin as much as possible. I was going to try to break the 10 commandments as much as I could. Every other word out of my mouth was "goddamn." I would watch porn even when I didn't feel like it, JUST to spite God. One day while watching porn, I felt in my heart as tho someone spoke to me and I felt the words, but I didn't hear anything audibly. I felt a very loving voice say, "I love you." I started to tear up but I was stubborn, so I tried to push the love (I knew in my heart that it was God) away by saying, "Fvck you! Where were you when I needed you!? I hate you!" Then I felt in my heart, "I'm so proud of you!" I teared up even more but I kept fighting the love. I fought his love for me for literally like a month and a half straight until one day I was so fatigued from fighting and his love was sooo gentle and tender and soothing...that I finally gave in. I felt my guard being let down and my defenses weaken. I felt Jesus standing very patiently at the door of my heart as if he literally had eternity to wait and was going to let me take as long as I needed...then I said within my heart, "Okay, you can love me now." I asked Jesus to come inside my heart. Then I felt an absolute RUSH of love come inside of me and I cried for 3 and a half hours straight! My bed was a puddle of tears. Every pain was healed, every void was filled, I was completed, and was whole. But I didn't want a love that would go away after a while. So I tested his love to see if it was always going to be unconditional even after he came into my heart. So I didn't change my rebellion. I kept saying "goddamn" every other word, I kept sinning and not even trying to apologize etc. I refused to forgive my father for his abuse. I would curse him out under my breath for weeks on end until one day I tried to curse him out and there just wasn't anymore pain there. I even kept trying tho the pain was gone. In that moment of trying to NOT let go and forgive, I simply let go. I felt a freedom within me that is hard to explain. I didn't sweep it under the rug and convince myself that I forgave him within my heart while I still held on secretly...I forgave him completely. I was free. I found out that forgiveness is a byproduct of being loved. It's not something that you do necessarily. It's something that flows from being loved. When you are loved, you end up loving yourself. When you love yourself, you end up loving others. But the church has made a religion out of it I feel like. As if it's just another way to try and gain your own salvation without simply accepting Jesus' sacrifice for you on the cross. I felt like, Jesus died my death for me so that by covenant law, I cannot die. Jesus was condemned for my sins on my behalf so that by covenant law, I cannot be condemned for my sins. THAT ALONE is my salvation. It's set in stone and NOTHING I do can undo his sacrifice for me. No amount of sin can ever wash away his blood or undo his covenant. Unfortunately I stayed in the abusive environment and went to a very harsh cult-like church that basically preached punishment for sins. I then later went to a different church that was much worse if you can imagine that. It was so bad that 16 years later I still have PTSD from the preaching. There was a service where the preacher tried to pray for a kid and the kid just buried his head in his mom's lap and was SCREAMING! Later I found out that the kid was screaming because he saw 11 demons beside the preacher. The preacher once stopped a prayer service to yell at a woman for getting out of her seat to pray for someone she felt led to pray for. The preacher quoted the Bible saying something about her interrupting the holy spirit. He prayed for me once and said out loud, "you don't know God." I felt such hopelessness in those church services. I knew he was wrong but had a lot of fear. So once I confronted him before a service and asked him how he tests the spirit because I knew he was wrong. He yelled at me in front of everyone for asking him that question. I finally left that church, felt like I was hopelessly going to hell and there was no saving me. I actually brought someone to one of his services early on before it was really bad, and after the service she messaged me, "I'm going to hell." It was bad. Really bad. Since then I have had a lot of confusion and can't seem to live in the freedom and love that originally brought me to the Father's heart of love for me. I have been in a lot of fear with the whole, "forgive lest you be forgiven" thing. I feel a lot of fear like somehow, I will die with unforgiveness in my heart and end up in hell. It grips me sometimes. I know that fear is not from God and confusion is not from God. I feel like a lot of the bible is either edited or misinterpreted. I feel like people create fear-based religion when Jesus was really the end of all religion because fear causes religion. And perfect (Agape - unconditional) love casts out ALL fear. So if there is no more fear, then there is no more religion. Jesus finished our work of salvation on the cross for us. I felt that THAT was our salvation even if we didn't know it or accept it. You ARE going to heaven because Jesus died your death for you on your behalf. Therefore you CANNOT go to hell. But now I'm second-guessing it like, "was I wrong?" I used to feel like my salvation was set in stone and I could not lose my salvation because it was gained completely apart from my actions. So my actions could not undo it either. I had unforgivness ON PURPOSE and Jesus allowed me to hate my dad until all my hatred was just not there anymore. Seems like ot went completely against the bible verse about not being forgiven unless you forgive. But I hear ppl's stories about being shown hell and ppl were there who used to love God but refused to forgive. Just doesn't make any sense at all to me. Or the verse about the kingdom of God being like a man who was thrown in hell because he was forgiven much, but choked someone who owed him money... Just doesn't add up to me. Doesn't make sense doesn't cast out fear. Doesn't seem like it's accurate. Doesn't seem like that's the gospel (The Good News). Surely the good news HAS to be better than that? Surely Jesus' sacrifice did more for us than "believe me in me or you're going to hell...oh, and if you don't forgive like I forgave you, you're also going to hell." Just crazy to me...

[@jesuschriststillsaves9750]

This verse talks about restoring fellowship as a believer In Christ. The Lord's prayer is for those that believe on Christ. You forgive because you yourself are forgiven. If you don't forgive, you may be a carnal Christian,.not nourished in the word, having your affections on things of this world. All opposites of what we are commanded to do and be. Titus 3:5 Romans 4:5-8 Ephesians 2:8-9 Don't fall for those heavenly (or hellish) tourism's. They aren't bible. If God wanted us to know something more about heaven or hell, it would've been in his holy Word. 2 Cor 11:14 And no marvel; for Satan himself is transformed into an angel of light.”

[@jesuschriststillsaves9750]

Also, Lord bless you and your testimony. I hated my life before Christ. Grew up in a non believer home. Life had no meaning and purpose if I was just going to suffer. Been saved for about 1year and 3months now. Glory be to God! Life gets harder after you become a Christian. You are held to a higher standard and it's all eyes on you everywhere, if you care to be a good testimony for Christ. Read Gods word and see how that it's faith alone that justifies us and make sus right before God. Romans 7 talks about the Christian problem. Romans 8 is the Christian solution. "Condemnation" in Rom 8:1 is fleshly and physical condemnation, because if not, then it contradicts john 3:18 (those that believe are not condemned) Godspeed to you! May Christ dwell richly in your life. Find different churches that preach the truth of God's word. Faith alone for remission of sins.

[@sabrinanicholas7190]

Hey did u find any answers cause I’m having the same exact issue as you. Like literally everything u said is what I’m thinking

[@kxtcl6440]

Why can't God just help me? I can't even bring myself to ask for forgievness because I have trouble forgiving others. I struggle with sin and I got really angry at God yesterday I prayed for him to reveal himself to me and he didn't. I have trouble forgiving people because of what they did to me and it hurts because I never realized that it's so hard. I thought Jesus did most of the work but it's so hard for me. it feels like I have to do so much and I'm tired, I'm so tired of feeling so upset. I got mad at God many times. And I just wish he would show himself to me like he does for some people, even when I cry it feels like I'm talking to a w all it feels like he doesn't care about me. I wish'd he revealed himself to me because I'm really really sick of feeling like this. God sometimes just makes me so upset.

[@suzannetidei9450]

@@kxtcl6440 I am sorry you are having this struggle, and I appreciate your honesty. I recall when I was young asking Jesus to be my Savior and Lord over and over, but not FEELING saved. I felt as though I hadn't completely repented of my sins, because I continued to sin, so that was evidence, and I had to clean up my act. Finally I heard a sermon that made plain to me that God really WANTED to forgive me, right then and there. He meets us where we are. We are truly helpless to cure ourselves on our own. As far as feelings, they can be an indicator of some state inside of us, but we don't always interpret what that means correctly. The Bible doesn't say, "Feel this, feel that," but "Come let us REASON together." And on the other hand, I think that Satan is best at manipulating us through our emotions especially fear. Fear of failure, being unloved, not good enough, not respected, etc. So, the Bible also tells us God is Love, and perfect love casts our fear, because fear has torment. And it explains that love is not a feeling, it is an action, a way of treating others. It may produce feelings, but it can't be true love while remaining no more than a feeling. I was molested by a relative, and forgiveness was not easy, nor was it a one time deal. Listening to Christian programs, I was able to learn that I needed to forgive for my own benefit and not be chained to this other person by my bad feelings. Forgiving them sets YOU free. But, life happens, and memories or new wrong doings on that person's part can put you back in the position of having to forgive over and over. I was praying many years later about forgiving this person again after they had done something again. I told God that I was legally letting them off my "hook", and I wanted God to officially let them off His hook, too, and if there was some other level of forgiveness that should be happening, God was going to have to help me out. Suddenly I had a vision of Jesus, and a sense that the other person was sort of to our side looking away with downcast eyes. Jesus asked me if I would let it be on him. It was not regular words with his lips moving, it was pure thought communication, so the best picture I have to describe it was that I had a whip in my hand, and because of the offense against me, I had every right to use it on the other person, but Jesus was respectfully asking if I would allow him to stand between the two of us and let the lashes fall on him instead. Oh, my goodness, Jesus had done nothing to me, He didn't deserve it, I didn't want to hurt Him, so I essentially decided to drop the the whip, something like a hard knot in my chest was released, and instantly the face of Jesus was gone. I don't say this to make you feel jealous or less than, I just hope this picture that was given me will help you, too. This was around forty years after the molestation, and amazingly I, like you, got around to feeling kind of angry, like, "So Jesus, if you can just show up and set things straight like that, why didn't you do that a long time ago?" I didn't get any visions to answer that, but did finally conclude that God desires our trust and that we walk by faith that He is who He says He is and what He reveals through his Word. Jesus told doubting Thomas something along the lines of , "You believe because you have seen. Blessed are those who have not seen, and yet believed." So, His appearance might mean that I missed out on a certain level of blessing. But, I am glad He decided to give me a quick glimpse, because I was kind of stuck for a long time, forty years worth. Please go ahead and ask for forgiveness, you need that to effectively be able to do that for others. As the saying goes, yoy can't give what you don't have. May the Lord bless you on your journey. He LOVES you even when you are at your worst, he always has.

[@AaronThinks]

Are you suggesting we are united with Christ and members of his Kingdom through forgiveness by faith, but God can't fellowship with us every time we sin? I hope you live in sinless perfection in thought and deed, or you are asking for forgiveness constantly.

[@arcguardian]

If u have the Holy Spirit, He is with you even when u sin. There is no unfellowship.

[@gamertcell8425]

I forgiven those I’m not supposed to I’m glad I did

[@adamhorsburgh4524]

I wanted to watch the scene from godfather. Not this pish.

[@JD-ss4qf]

Answer: Yes it does mean that you will not be forgiven. Simple. You have to twist and manipulate scripture to get any other understanding. The Lord commanded to forgive when you stand in prayer. Period. John says that those who keep His commandments are those who love Him. If you do not love then you do not know him. The fear of the Lord is coming to the luke warm church and God will teach us sinful christians how to love like the Father. And maybe we can be found worthy of Him and be ready for the harvest of souls that is ripe on the earth. These doctrines are waisting the churches time and confusing them from their real calling... to be conformed to the image of Christ and save the lost.

[@GODSMISTAKE-j9k]

Beware good teacher. Our eternal destiny does depend on forgiving others. To say it doesn't is Satanic Quit while you're ahead You have no business business teaching doctines of demons to unsuspecting. You'll be held accountable and you will have no defense.

[@Your_Best_Self]

explain

[@larryleitner7868]

He said it near the end of his talk. He said at the end of his talk that if we don't forgive others, God won't hear our prayers. I agree with you on this. People need to be careful about what they tell others. We will stand before Christ someday and give account for what we have said to others.

[@Your_Best_Self]

@catholictruth102 you having a intimate relationship with God will be dwindled drastically to the point that your prayers will be put to the side not Salvation. same goes for if a man doesn't take care of his wife God will put his prayers to the side till he get right with her. You're not going to then say that he being argumentative or mean to his wife that now he lost his salvation. Now if we talked about salvation you better put your faith in the Lord Jesus Christ and you shall be saved. If anyone disagree with something at least give people an explanation of how and why to see there point of view.

[@TrailBlazerSS502]

Let God forgive, not people.