If LIV-PGA isn't a merger then what is it? | The Dan LeBatard Show with Stugotz

Meadowlark Media CEO John Skipper and Nothing Personal's David Samson are back with another episode! Let’s start things off with LIV/PGA merger. Everyone’s talking about it. Everyone’s interested. But what is happening behind the scenes? (10:15) This brings us to foreign investments in bigger sports. The NBA has seemed okay with the idea of sovereign fund money. Should this be something that should be welcomed? (22:40) Messi is coming to America. What does this mean for MLS? What does this mean for Apple? (35:20) Is the XFL going to work? Will spring football ever work? Are you willing to tell The Rock it can't work?
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0:00 - Intro
0:55 - PGA/LIV merger
9:52 - Sovereign funding
22:10 - Messi to MLS
32:15 - XFL losing money
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[@Jennifer_Elliott]

Every time these two are together, it's excellent.

[@christopherleelewis21]

I wish this was a weekly show.

[@LeBatardShow]

👀👀👀

[@walterdudedonny]

David has to corral himself 1st.

[@user-wg7nw3mh2e]

@@LeBatardShow ok but why John think the Swiss are so innocent?

[@TLBKlaus]

...there can't be another boss on the planet who makes his lawyers as happy as Skip lol. He is SO careful in his phrasings.

[@deemwape]

Lol bruh

[@jakeprewitt3009]

I like Mr. Skipper's point that the money isn't dirty, but that the hands trying to give it over are.

[@JM-qn3tf]

Oh look another fake virtue signaler

[@_j_t_p_]

i guess. its like a known rapist getting served at a bar, because he has a decent job. hes right, but it doesnt mean their money should be good.

[@JM-qn3tf]

@@_j_t_p_ dumb point

[@_j_t_p_]

@@JM-qn3tf so you make a point thats even more worthless in response. right on

[@jamesdickerson742]

These two are a perfect mix of styles.

[@bakerchapman9465]

I love all of the meadowlark shows, but every episode of Skipper and David is some of the best content on the internet

[@WHITEDOUCHEBAG1]

You should do a visual biography on the life of John skipper. He is a titan of industry type and you could do for him, with the visual format, the same thing TITAN did for John d Rockefeller In the book format.

[@jeffreytubbs8262]

Love these segments with Sam and Skip... Such a unique perspective

[@AChambers378]

I do love these 2 when they get together. I just prefer it when Dan leads the conversation and allows them both to give their points and disagree with each other back and forth instead of having david hold up the conversation up as well.

[@briangrice1999]

Love these 2 talking, please bring them together more offend...

[@TheChrisf95]

Mr. Skipper is a great communicator. Makes sense that he has a masters degree in English literature from Columbia

[@jackmundo4043]

I went to college with the great John Skipper. It’s my regret I didn’t know him. Man, is he sharp.

[@chrisweidner4768]

“Not really.” Love this guy.

[@johnpaulroman3498]

Why have Skipper on if he’s going to dodge every question so he doesn’t offend his friends in the business?

[@Fortunes.Fool.]

Of all the new content, this is the hour I look forward to every week.

[@jasonli5024]

Great conversation! Have a great discussion is important!

[@thechicken7092]

please make this more frequent!!

[@dannyvandan_]

This like watching two great warriors spar

[@al99795]

Skipper's comparison of the American and European models of player development was spot on. Samson didn't know enough about soccer dynamics to understand it

[@williamadams9109]

I want a Samson skipper watch along

[@elder1656]

the American exceptionalism is hilarious

[@user-ti2me2br8g]

Skipper is a giant when it comes to confidently conveying knowledge and facts. Sampson forgot to take his security pill.

[@jmillerxi]

I love sports business so this might be my favorite show

[@chrispurcell8892]

Excellent conversation, I need these guys to make this more of a weekly or bi-weekly thing

[@chrispurcell8892]

@@tacotom3492he's rather, ah, famous for those things, yes

[@JayPleezer304]

as an aspiring investor, this has become my favorite...weekend observations is 2nd

[@jacobdockter3436]

would love to see david talk about his accounting when at the marlins, i still remember talking about it in my sports econ class 10 years ago about how they used accounting to show they were not making a profit.

[@haroldfloyd5518]

The 911 tour! People are complete over that, right? Right?

[@Intabih]

John knowing Coca's first name and thanking him at the end is important.

[@ejkboxing]

The 1st top 5 High School player that goes to the XFL will flip other athlete's opinions instead of going to college to play for free.

[@jeomendez657]

Love these two! I do miss Witty tho.

[@SyracuseBrad]

I know I’m a business/deal nerd, but still these are my favorite shows. Fascinating.

[@calebzuver2062]

I love David Samson

[@foyboy03]

Amazing show. Ever time.

[@1362pc]

Noone in the PGAT management are good enough to lead the NewCo....they have no global vision for golf...only US golf

[@davidsullivan7141]

This is the best thing meadowlark does.

[@chijohnson4569]

samson doesn't know much about sports business. he is just the only person who used to run a team that will offer his opinion unsolicited. i refuse to believe otherwise.

[@Twotabzproductions]

This needs to be a podcast

[@bobbowie9350]

Messi was rumored to go to inter miami(dumb, pretentious name) like three years ago.

[@JustHerefortheComments_]

Skipper is spot on about the XFL and Big Three, especially the mention that there are already other sports to air without inventing lesser leagues to fill the time. David is very good at pushing Skipper to talk.

[@gerry2217]

I wanna talk to Samson!

[@user-ti2me2br8g]

AAF, XFL, USFL. Not needed by the NFL or anyone else. Spring football brings to mind the definition of insanity.

[@JLLondonbridge]

David is so good at what he does!

[@coleentuokkola4102]

As someone who really doesn’t like David on the main show, I absolutely love these conversations he has with John Skipper. This is where he really shines. And I would like to see these conversations more often.

[@darcymcgowen3091]

Yes at least bi weekly. Great insight always

[@toddotto8257]

Sit still Skipper!!!

[@bradsims7089]

That Messi conversation was really interesting.

[@user-ti2me2br8g]

Skipper was on point, more good young players over the star of stars.

[@stran-air-jordan]

I heard Skipper say capitulate. Now i know where Tony heard it.

[@user-ti2me2br8g]

Skipper feeds lines to Tony during the show.

[@macdaddy2344]

New podcast with David and skipper call it "the bigwigs"

[@solefob]

reservations about dealing with Saudi Arabia yet no talk about Joe Tsai as an nba owner

[@tacotom3492]

Why even have Skipper on when he won't answer any of the questions.. Christ 😂🙄

[@michaeldemarco2415]

He was very clear. The questions were leading a speculative in the extreme. He was clear he would not take Saudi money.

[@Darklion2077]

Two guys talking about morality when they took blood money from weapons manufacturer lol (ESPN and baseball

[@BlessedAreTheCheesemakers]

there's a lot of business and law people saying the merger won't pass antitrust concerns

[@user-ti2me2br8g]

Please don't say merger, my chest hurts and not from the fatty prime rib.

[@Matt-cr4vv]

The PGA was already starting to be looked at regarding antitrust concerns. So seeing the one viable competitor combining with them just further entrenches the PGA as a monopoly in the sport. And it certainly doesn’t improve things that the investment comes from Saudi. I’d be surprised if the transaction goes through honestly. So many roadblocks it’ll have to clear.

[@djbingham5451]

Another GOLDEN production from Meadowlark Media!🎧🏆💯

[@liloreyna]

No because you don't replace them with better players. You spend years putting bad young players on the field and then you get rid of them after their first or second all Star season.

[@Bman32x]

MLS wants a foothold in the US to make soccer as or more popular at least than Baseball. That would be a huge W. My kids already are more interested in soccer than I ever was as tweens. They both know who Messi is while trying to learn more about legacy NBA. So this will work, Apple has nothing but positive to gain.

[@bobbowie9350]

european football fans laugh at USA pro teams having a draft.. it is hilarious.

[@-Jek99-]

The only way the XFL would be relevant is if they pay a ton of money to players to come over and play for them.

[@user-ti2me2br8g]

Skipper was on to something. Spring Football = Non Profit. But they might have better ratings than Liv.

[@davidmahady8241]

Xfl played hard and talented wouldn't surprise me if one or two beat NFL teams! So many good athletes and selection process so phony told directly to me by former minor league player who said some of the best never got a chance and that he was better than current( back then) Pirate 1st baseman and he would do better for way less money!! Sports largely phony now!!

[@gabagoolcookingnetwork6672]

Skipper is one fidgety MF

[@jteiber]

I still thinks this show misses a moderator, like when Witty was doing it, but I still absolutely love the interactions between these two individuals. Samson just shouldn't be driving the topics and the conversation, he should be adding to it the same way that Skipper does.

[@user-ti2me2br8g]

Sampson's wheelhouse is baseball. When it comes to any other sport, he doesn't know jack, especially golf. Note to Saudis regarding terms of investment: Don't kill any more high profile Washington Post columnists.

[@michaeldemarco2415]

I'm going to pass on Samson. Screw the business side of sports.

[@bobgorman3874]

Don't know when this was recorded, but David u r wrong about Messi. Mike was the guy that told us first & knows & told us what actually happened. It was an Inter Miami deal! Messi did not go to Saudi Arabia despite a $1.3 billion a year offer because his wife told him she is not going to raise her 3 young children there. That simple. He has a home in S. Fl. They want to raise their children here (I live in Broward Co.). David you sang this same song on Dan's show & Mike set u straight. Confusing.

[@kirbydrake4417]

Reservations about dealing with Saudi Arabia -but China not a problem!

[@lanceroberson3089]

The attempt at forcing of Skipper to say something is kind of annoying.

[@nicaOne]

Cocaine connoisseur Skipper is back

[@alansanchez3810]

If you guys are going to talk soccer, please have a clue regarding transfer fees which is obvious you are not familiar and are debating if signing Messi on a free transfer is better than bringing 25 EPL players 24-27 yrs old. A good player, not great, like Alexis Macallister from an upcoming team like Brighton just went for $80M, multiply that by 25 players to increase the league level and who will pay for that? Not even counting wages for those 25 players. Frankly, have a soccer knowledgeable person for this conversation, and please let it not be the fake Brit who is a great cheerleader but has no clue about business in soccer.

[@tacotom3492]

Come on Samson... You know better . The majors are not owned by the PGA. 😂 The PGA of America, not the PGA Tour, runs the PGA Championship and the Senior PGA Championship, and co-organizes the Ryder Cup with Ryder Cup Europe, a company controlled by the PGA European Tour.

[@PoppaCYS]

I like David but he is so slimy at times. He says he has made profitable companies look like they are not profitable with accounting "slight of hand", and whatever he did wouldn't be considered illegal. That may be true, but it certainly sounds dishonest and unethical.

[@user-ti2me2br8g]

He's Trump's mole at Meadowlark. His resume: I sort or ran the worst team in MLB, before I didn't. And I couldn't even get a bolo tie on my expense account.