If We Found The Wreck, What Would Happen Next?

[@Yosetime]

I really appreciate that this channel uses a real human voice to narrate and not one of those robotic voice-overs that are so overused and terrible to listen to. Part of listening to a great story is in the way it is narrated. A human voice with real human inflections and dialect. It makes all the difference. So thank you for keeping it real!

[@danilon3121]

Recent breakthroughs in tracking technolgy have sparked renewed hope and confidence that the wreck will be found in the not too distant future. The waters in the likely location are deep and recovery in itself would be a challange, but as noted in the video, there is still sufficient public interest to suggest that funding would be made available. So yeah, we can all still hold on to hope that the biggest aviation mystery in modern history may yet be solved.

[@NBrixH]

At least we know it crashed, a lot of people I know don't even know that. 🤷‍♂

[@matsv201]

@@NBrixH the offical explination makes avsolutly no sense to me. Its pretty much.. 1: transponder is turned off 2: aircraft is prefectly tracking the malaysian/thai border 3: it follows the airroute north of Indonesia, with transponder of but tcas om. 4: it turnes south. 5: who ever flying sudenly die with out explunation. 6: the plane follow a path that is not quite straight untill it runs out of fuel and crashes. 7: the plain run out of fuel 8: it magically externt thenflaps and fail a water landning We know the last part, because bits of the flaps have been found, and the damage indicate they where extended. No sorry, not buying it

[@NBrixH]

@@matsv201 All I said was that we know it crashed

[@matsv201]

@@NBrixH actually.. we dont know that, rather, evidance we have indicated a crash landning rather than a crash

[@NBrixH]

@@matsv201 Still effectively a crash.

[@Pooneil1984]

Your style wasn't as much speculation as an informed discussion of possibilities. I like discussion of facts and how they can be interpreted.

[@algermom1]

Great change of pace. Please do more of these along with the "known" accident reports. May the grieving ones of the victims come to and continue in a kind of peace. And may the wreckage be found soon.

[@ondrejsedlak4935]

I know the answer. We’ll get the most awful made for streaming Netflix movie, starring some washed up D-list celeb. There’s also gonna be infinity stones.

[@rilmar2137]

The photos of those plane pieces covered with shellfish send shivers down my spine. I really hope the wreck is found, even if only to give the families and friends of those killed at least some closure. I don't know if we will even know what happened. Maybe by the time the wreck is found, the technological progress will provide the investigations with better tools. Maybe some technology developed after that will prove helpful. There were many decades old cold criminal cases that were solved using new technologies. Then again, way more cases have remained unsolved, MH370 might share this fate

[@mkontent]

You know what could be spookier? I know that there is a certain phenomenon (that I forgot the name of) that sometimes corpses submerged in water will develop a kind of gross protective film of chemicals around them. Such bodies will survive for hundreds of years as if it's only been months. Now imagine if the plane ditched and someone was trapped inside.

[@oceanexploration]

As a professional oceanographer in this exact subject, I have found numerous aircraft at sea (and well over a hundred shipwrecks). It is incredibly difficult. We work with the best available sonars and systems commercially available. I was asked to be involved with the MH370 search but I declined due to unavailability. When an aircraft is reduced to pieces the size of a cafeteria tray and smaller and distributed over a mile in thousands of feet of water, it is incredibly difficult to identify. A high-energy impact on the water turns aluminum basically into bits of putty. The small washed-up pieces do not support controlled ditching. It suggests high angle, high energy impact, or at least mid-angle like fuel starvation followed by a stall, possible spin, and impact. Even with seabed video at the site you may recognize electronic components, wires, bits of unrecognizable aluminum and other materials, and perhaps wheel components. Bits that float will be found perhaps hundreds or even thousands of miles away or centered over the wreck. If you are quick and accurate on the site, the fuel slick is a great clue. Not an option here. One aircraft I found was of a WWII bomber in the North Sea. It was barely a smudge of slightly higher sonar return in deep water. Picture a slight erasure mark on an exam paper. You could tell something was changed. It absolutely could have been geology, but the seabed there was super soft clay and homogeneous. Had it been anywhere else in the North Sea, it would have blended in with the glacial sediments and lost forever. I have at least 3 other cases like this. Sometimes you get lucky. Many finds are located while performing other operations, Other times, including with shipwrecks, you don't get lucky and it is lost in a terrible complex area. Seabed character really matters, especially with aircraft. Secondly, from watching a KZbin video you have no sense of the scale and depth of the ocean. The average depth of the oceans globally is over 12,000 feet. That's 2.3 miles. Searching for a missing aircraft when the last known position isn't well-defined is like searching for a needle in a field of haystacks. It is expensive, emotional, time-consuming, and fatiguing.

[@MrBsbotto]

Wow, what a terrific response, ocean explorer! So nice to get input from a pro. You really bring home the incredible difficulty of searching without any solid evidence on the plane's actual flight path. Also enjoyed your discussion of some of the crashes you have found. Good stuff.

[@englishmuffinpizzas]

The pieces that have been found actually do support a controlled ditching. Engineers have simulated the nature of the damage these pieces have, and they match a modified ditching scenario - controlled, but trying to sink quickly. For example, the lack of damage to the leading edge of the flap suggests a controlled ditching, but the fact that the landing gear door was almost certainly open due to scratches from the engines on the interior component shows that the landing gear was probably intentionally extended to help the plane sunk faster.

[@peter_smyth]

This was a great video. It adds something that I haven't seen in any other coverage of the disappearance, most of which just presents the known information about last whereabouts and search areas. More similar videos, as well as the usual crash investigation content would be welcomed by me.

[@nicolestewart]

Mh370 really touched my heart. I had flown back from Malaysia to Sydney on Malaysian Airlines just the day before this happened. It freaked me out so bad I was glued to the news channels and youtube. When they started the Australian search I was hoping they would find it but I remember seing how rough that part of the ocean is and how deep it is. After the plane went missing, when I ever went to Malaysia again I flew air Asia instead. Gosh I pray they find the plane one day. It's gonna go down in the history books exactly like titanic. Something else I'm obsessed with. Great video 😁

[@Ozymandias1]

It's also bizarre that Malaysia Airlines lost two planes within a few months.

[@nicolestewart]

@@Ozymandias1 totally. That was such a worry. I do love planes and flying. I mist have watched every single plane crash video on KZbin. My dad used to work at Qantas too

[@karllung2649]

I think high chances that data in the black boxes could still be read. Although not designed for long lasting, it should only refer to reliability (99.99%+) and be read easily. Give an example, VHS tapes are said to be good for just a few years. However, even for this consumer grade product, I have at home lots of 30+ year VHS tapes that are still playable in pretty good condition. Also I believe that being one of the biggest mystery in the century, a lot of organizations (public and private) will be happy to fund the recovery of the wreck. Also by that time, the cost for deep sea operation would be much lower than now.

[@kickedinthecalfbyacow7549]

Have your vhs tapes been stored in high pressure salt water, because the black box has.

[@seabasso6849]

@@kickedinthecalfbyacow7549 its also very cold water which helps preservation

[@johannesbluemink4581]

Right you are! I still have VHS tapes with movies I recorded in 1980 and are still in reasonable viewing conditions.

[@kickedinthecalfbyacow7549]

@@johannesbluemink4581 put a little salt water on them and see what happens

[@HunterN3rd]

Hey great video, I’ve been following you since the beginning of your channel, its mind blowing how far you’ve come and just how much you have improved. Please continue making great videos

[@MiniAirCrashInvestigation]

Thank you so much!

[@carrisasteveinnes1596]

We took the rebadged MH371 night flight from KUL to PEK just a week after 370 was lost. To say we were a little nervous, especially with our very young children with us, is an understatement.

[@Shabon67]

Wow. That's insane. You have a lot of courage. I always wonder about this kind of thing... Like especially the flights scheduled for the very next day for the same airline and route as one that just crashed. But even the next week is crazy close. Were any other passengers noticeably nervous? Was there any mention of it amongst passengers or did you notice any unusual behaviour from flight attendants, like being extra kind or somber? I'm guessing at least nobody was pettily fighting over the carryon luggage space... Kinda puts things in perspective, doesn't it?

[@matthewsmith2787]

Probably was the safest flight ever after the crash, the crew would be on high alert

[@Shabon67]

@@matthewsmith2787 Crew on high alert doesn't mean shit if there is a mechanical malfunction or unexpected weather condition, chain of events, etc that jeopardised the flight.

[@CAROLUSPRIMA]

In reading comments I am struck by how “positive” one person is of this and how “certain” another is of that. The older I get the less positive and certain I am about anything, much less a jet plane that ended up god knows where a half a world away.

[@advorak8529]

Almost half the world is half a world away … from any given place. And we have a pretty good idea where the plane is. And it will likely stick out of sonar charts like a sore thumb - even if It’s just a large field of scrap metal with no specific form. Are you less certain about death and taxes nowadays? These two do fall under “anything” … and while the youth tends to be overly certain and overly optimistic, old people tend to be too uncertain and overly pessimistic.

[@VanillaMacaron551]

this is why often I "like" comments on different sides of an argument, if I feel they are making good points

[@johannesbluemink4581]

@@advorak8529 I associate your name with the 'New World' Symphony, but I guess that's beside the point. I am 73, but I am certainly not 'overly' pessimistic in general terms.

[@zvexevz]

​@@advorak8529 The original comment raised a good point, that a lot of people make strong definitive statements about something they know little about. In this case, the idea that any wreckage would "stick out like a sore thumb." It just so happens that hundreds of millions of dollars and tens of thousands of manhours went into searching the ocean floor for the wreckage. They used sonar to map over 710,000 km squared of seafloor, however not all vessels were equipped with devices capable of high-resolution sonar bathymetry, so only 120,000 km sq was covered by that. The seafloor in that part of the ocean is also not a nice flat plain you might be picturing. Rather it's full of deep canyons, trenches, seamounts, underwater volcanoes as tall as 2000m, and landslides of sediment stretching for many km. These all make it difficult to search for underwater objects. Not to mention the depths involved, which were up to 6500 meters. So yeah imagine looking for a sore thumb with a foggy magnifying glass in a 700,000km sq. haystack.

[@meofnz2320]

A very good point. And a little embroidery goes on as well. For example someone says “we know that the transponder was turned off”. No. We don’t. All we know is that receipt of signals from the transponder ceased. Even though it’s a highly plausible theory, we don’t know it was turned off.

[@bdbgh]

Hope that if it's found it will give some level of closure for those who are affected, also hope the cause of the incident can be found out too

[@greggstrasser5791]

They’ll make up some lie to give “closure.”

[@bobjohnbowles]

We already know quite a bit about MH370 from the various investigations, including the discovery/analysis of the flotsam referred to in this video. It seems from the condition of the flaperon that in its last moments MH370 made a controlled water landing, with the flaps extended. But there are huge gaps in our knowledge that cannot be filled without finding the wreck.

[@danhemming6624]

And maybe more questions when We do find it.

[@danhemming6624]

@HistoryNews10 There were quite a few High Profile ppl on board. A few Chinese Millionaires I think. I wonder if it's under water, under soft sand. I can see an earthquake or similar in 20 years time shifting sand and the plane is found, whole and people still strapped in.

[@stankythecat6735]

@HistoryNews10 blame the Jews ? That’s what you got ? Christ… you people are tragic

[@gordon1545]

@HistoryNews10 I'm looking forward to them turning on the 5G in your head.

[@arthilas_]

If the plane made a controlled ditch, wouldn't that make the pilot suicide theory highly unlikely?

[@doccyboy5018]

im a simple man, I see mini Aircrash investigation, instant view and instant like, keep up the great content

[@IdliAmin_TheLastKingofSambar]

To me, this video-which I enjoyed-is less about MH370 per se, and more about the challenges these kinds of investigations face generally, what techniques they might be able to use, the effects of the passage of time on physical evidence, not to mention on the public’s interest, etc.

[@grr9790]

On the news last month they said that some team in Western Australia may have found it and are preparing to mobilise search crews again to search the sea bed near the new area which was only a few km West of the original search area off the coast of Australia, so maybe it might be found this year...

[@carrisasteveinnes1596]

Actually it is nearly 2000 km to the South West of WA. If it had crashed only a few Km off the coast it would have been seen, heard and responded to. If only it had...

[@KaiHenningsen]

@@carrisasteveinnes1596 I believe they meant a few km to the West of the original search area (which is why it wasn't found), and that area is somewhere off the coast of Australia - which, if you're looking at a globe, could easily describe a distance between coast and search area of 2000 km. In any case, I certainly remember that there were search areas near, but not close to Australia, which is why Australia was involved in the search back then.

[@briant7265]

I take issue with your characterization of the video as speculation. It was a great education on some of the tools available to investigators, with MH370 as the centerpiece. Well done!

[@CraigPetty555]

I think the more knowledge people have about the size of the Indian ocean, the more we will realize that the chances of finding 370 are slim to none. Many miles deep, and thousands of miles wide, you would have better luck finding a golf ball in the Mojave desert. Captain Shah knew exactly what he was doing, he depressurized the plane, put everyone to sleep, including himself, and with the coordinates programmed in the system, it flew on auto pilot till it ran out of fuel literally in the middle of nowhere!! Captain Shah intended for it to never be found, and I believe he succeeded!!!

[@crypton7572]

i think someone was controlling the plane during its last minutes because the flight apparently had gone under a weird zigzag before crashing and the flaps were extended like it was meant to be some controlled water landing

[@scoobydo446]

Just this morning I searched for info on MH370 then now you bring this video out ,really cool .also this video was nice make this style maybe monitor the views then you will know what format your fans want ,

[@marktolner2922]

If it was deliberate act and if it was possible I would think that the person responsible would have pulled the circuit breakers for the black boxes to further cover his tracks.

[@greggstrasser5791]

Dude was on the job. Look who was on the plane.

[@barrybritcher]

@@greggstrasser5791 who?

[@TesterAnimal1]

@@barrybritcher Strasser is a conspiracy theorist. All kinds of loonies think there were specially targeted people on the plane. All bollocks. Pilot suicide.

[@Edax_Royeaux]

@@TesterAnimal1 If it was pilot suicide, why wait till fuel exhaustion? That just invites the chance for the cockpit of being stormed. Bottled oxygen makes trying to incapacitate the entire crew hard to achieve. This is why pilot suicide usually involved diving the plane, which didn't happen here.

[@briant7265]

I love your regular format and style. Also, this was not only great as a change of pace, but also an interesting look at the investigative process.

[@Oscar-xs9cv]

The found parts already show that it wasn't a fast and abrupt impact I guess

[@Kiran_360_movement]

When Air crashes are left unsolved I lose sleep for nights thinking about the pilots and the plane. I believe you shall make a video about 1990 (11 September) Faucett B727 disappearance. It is similar to the disappearance of Mh370 but much more confusing, couldn't find much about the crash on the internet nor found a report so I am asking you for help. Anyways lovely video, your fan 😉

[@muhchung]

I'm getting more pessimistic now. Northwest 2501 disappeared more than 70 years ago over Lake Michigan (much more confined than Indian Ocean and shallower), and we still could not find it.

[@Yosetime]

I think it is everyone's responsibility to keep looking for this plane. There is no time limit to investigating murders or deaths. And since there is a strong belief that this plane was brought down purposefully by one of the pilots, that's murder. In recent years there has been some new information that says that the plane is crashed only about 30 Km's from the spot that was already searched on the 7th arc. So close! Yet they haven't searched there because nobody wants to fund it. That is a tragedy in itself. The families of the victims deserve to know what happened to their loved ones, no matter where they are. We have to find it! Not by accident, but on purpose. Hopefully this will happen someday. Great video as always! Thanks!

[@theprior46]

A very well reasoned and objective study using the best logic to look at the facts. So much better than journalistic guesswork and all the tabloid style hype that surrounds this painful lack of closure. The wreck could be found in my remaining life time but I doubt it. When I'm gone it won't matter to me. But the sad thing is the lack of closure so far for all those relatives of "the disappeared". If it was found, I dread to think how awful the digging out of remains would be for the forensic experts. Dreadful.

[@QuiddelQuaddel]

Where do you get your figures on flash memory data retention? Common is 20 years at 55 degC. When the temperature is lower, retention will be even much longer. These figures are without ongoing usage, of course.

[@leftclick2win]

A new video about MH370 lets go!! AND its from my favorite channel!!!

[@bird-freakk]

I'm certain we're going to find it eventually, unfortunately I'm not holding out much hope that it'll be soon enough for any of the flight data or CVR to survive so we're probably never to get an exact answer for what happend to and in the plane.

[@theharper1]

I'm curious whether any changes have been made to prevent a recurrence of an aircraft disappearing like this. For example, transmitting the aircraft gps location continuously.

[@404PeterEastman]

@ghostintheshelll So maybe an idea would be to introduce a location broadcasting system that is independent from the transponder, one without a fuse or switch off button in the cockpit. Intentional disappearing of an entire airplane would be impossible thereafter.

[@testboga5991]

I think enough is known about it that finding it will make much of a difference. The CVR is not going to hold the important time span anymore. So far, most colors point to suicide by pilot.

[@idratherpushmychevythandri9640]

Hi I just wanted to say I find your vids very well thought out and put together. Very educational and informative. I look forward to new content and you have earned a subscriber. Keep up the good work and love to hear the stories of the pilots who defied the odds and saved countless lives and the interviews are fantastic!! cheers

[@hikari_manekineko]

Nice departure from the norm for your channel, whose norm is already very good and interesting. Looking forward to more interesting and edifying stories in 2022.!

[@legitscoper3259]

Idea: Make two additional Flight data recorders one in an high security data center that is in constant communication with the on-board flight data recorders, and synchronised by max 1 sec delay. And a 2nd flight data recorder that is dropped off the aircraft by crew (not pilots!) via hit of an distress button, the recorder will record even if jettisoned from the aircraft by receiving analogue radio signals from the Aircraft until out of range. This drop off recorder will have an parachute, an flashing light, shock absorbant packaging, has positive buoyancy, and solar panels to get a few watts from the sun to keep volotile memory cells written. But nonvolotile memory would be even better.

[@jmurray01]

I think it will be found eventually, I just hope it's soon enough so that the families of the victims can perhaps get a shred of closure. That said the wreckage may pose more questions than it answers.

[@Gus1966-c9o]

Pull Ballard out of retirement.

[@cwlong9667]

Interesting! I like the way you've researched the different scenarios of the pane's disappearance. It WILL be VERY interesting when a crash location is found!

[@phils4634]

Thank you for covering this - an event still very interesting even after all those years. Whilst the chance of discovering the remnants is admittedly slim, it is nevertheless non-zero, and when the remnants are discovered it will be a very interesting time indeed for all the air accident investigators - the ultimate "Aviation Cold Case"!

[@johannesbluemink4581]

What is your opinion of Charles Berlitz, who wrote that (in)famous book about the Bermuda Triangle? Critics have scoffed his reasoning and say the planes that 'vanished', in reality, crashed in the ocean. Nevertheless, no wreckage was ever found of two planes, the 'Star Tiger', disappearing in Januari 948, and a DC-3 in December 1948.

[@phils4634]

@@johannesbluemink4581 The interesting thing with all these cases is the well-reported problem with instrumentation, particularly magnetic compasses and similar instruments. Whilst there are probably a few cases of mis-reporting, the history of "unusual happenings" in this patch of sea dates back centuries and it does seem to have more than the expected number of incidents.

[@gemberkoekje]

It is a mystery, isn't it? At least finding the wreck might narrow the options. I am mostly wondering whether the pressurization worked correctly. Because if it didn't, that could result in the pilots getting hypoxia and losing situational awareness. Another plausible theory is that the captain flew there deliberately. Dependent on the intactness of the plane, you might be able to determine how many bodies were in the cockpit.

[@Dd-bk7rr]

This theory is not talked about much. Possibly the captain was disoriented by lack of oxygen, tried turning around and passed out. A more gracious end to the story that was has been said so far. May the souls of all on board that flight rest in peace

[@ian7379]

Hypoxia doesn’t explain the multiple changes in course and the resulting flight path. This was murder-suicide by the pilot who had documented marital issues and simulated the flight on his home computer…. I don’t need to see the wreckage to have a 95% confidence of what happened.

[@gemberkoekje]

@@ian7379 Be careful with such bold claims. I agree that it's the most likely theory, but without finding the plane and getting evidence from it, there's no way to know for sure.

[@ian7379]

@@gemberkoekje I agree, that’s why I am 95% convinced …. I’m leaving the 5% for the alien hypothesis ;-) Really, any reasonable analyst operating under a 95% confidence interval (rather than dead certainty) would come to the same conclusion given the evidence. So I’m comfortable where I am. Plus we have a prior example, the Egypt Air case which is almost identical in its murder-suicide motivation - marital strife in a patriarchal Muslim society.

[@TheMrsSaito]

Muslim is a religion not a culture, many cultures practice in the muslim faith. Patriarchy (sexism) is still pervasive to be sure, but there are many who identify as muslim who have moved past the patriarchal history. Many women have independence and can choose how to incorporate their faith into their life. It seems small, but I count many friends who live by that faith, and they are all good, progressive people, I realize this is not applicable to every family across the board. I still dislike the assumptions in general. Not to take away from the accurate comparison otherwise.

[@sirxavior1583]

I agree with your points. It wasn't until 1998 when a couple mountain climbers accidentally found the wreckage of the 1947 BSAA Avro Lancastrian Star Dust accident that the mystery was gradually solved. For the last 40yrs everyone speculated were the missing plane was ranging from UFO abduction to more reasonable explanations. I whouldn't be suprised if the wreckage is accidentally found by some Chinese Fishing Boat looking for new unchartered waters to overfish.

[@timmack2415]

Great to see your first post of the New Year 🎆🥂

[@dimitarivanov3817]

As a person who followed your channel I am beyond grateful for that video. Instructive as always. Absolutely amazing job. And I love the settings you used. So please incorporate the in the other cases.

[@JMHTruck32005]

Well done, Interesting approach....

[@christosvoskresye]

The real question everyone wants answered is WHY. There's a very small chance the wreckage could tell us WHO and/or HOW, but WHY will forever be a mystery.

[@aleksandarvasilevski7410]

After 45 years it much more likely memory chip to survive than wires and aluminium in salty water. Yes, some data will be lost, but most of it will survive. Cold temperatures actually helps to preserve data.

[@thatguy7595]

How can you be so sure? The slightly lower temp is a good point but data rot is still a real thing on flash memory if left unpowered for decades.

[@aleksandarvasilevski7410]

@@thatguy7595I worked with memory chips a lot. NOR i more likely in use in blackbox than NAND. I am not sure at all, just comparing probabilities. Memory chip does not need power to keep the data. There is no refres mechanism like in SDRAM.

[@thatguy7595]

@@aleksandarvasilevski7410 The memory cells are not perfect and leak charge over long periods of time so they still need to be refreshed eventually.

[@ma9x795]

I believe you may have shown one of the most important pieces of evidence and not realised it. The second piece of wreckage you showed is one of the flaps, and it has significant abrasive damage on the trailing edge. The only way this is likely to happen is if the flaps were down and the aircraft hit the ocean in a relatively level attitude.

[@ryanvandoren1519]

Yep, makes me think it was a controlled ditching.

[@gordon1545]

@@ryanvandoren1519 The evidence may point that way but I really, really hope it wasn't a ditching. I dread to think about what would have happened afterwards.

[@smorris12]

@@gordon1545 Glug glug glug. But, the passengers and crew were long dead from hypoxia or there'd have been *something* from someone on board in the preceding hours.

[@StrongDreamsWaitHere]

More important than the likely degradation of the data from the FDR and CVR is the fact that if the loss of the airplane was deliberate, the pilot could have deactivated them by pulling their circuit breakers and so they would not capture any of the data that we would really need to know. Also, the CVR is only required to record on a 2 Hour Loop, so even if the loss of the aircraft was an accident of some kind, the CVR would not likely have any useful data. I suspect that if MH 370 is found, we will learn nothing useful about the cause other than dispersing the conspiracy theories that it was flown intact to some secret destination.

[@fredfred2363]

The biggest problem in searching underwater, is that the searching "machine" needs energy. For a small submersible robot, it can only run as long as its batteries last. A mini nuclear powered sub that could scan 24/7 is probably the easiest way... Interesting new angle on your usual videos. But equally good. 👍🏻

[@daic7274]

An hypoxia event is a leading possible cause of control failure (pilot flying off course) and loss of communication, flying until out of fuel and diving from cruise height. This would cause a break up in air. Some of the latest data on flight path indicates it may have flown south back towards land (with in flight break up) ended up in Cambodia forestry... Not far from the proposed Christmas Island area at sea. A fire on board is also suspect and venting smoke automatically would open valves allowing de pressurisation of aircraft without a cabin loss of pressure alarm. Another leading theory is failure of cabin pressurisation during assent to cruse altitude. Both events would be slow onset hypoxia. This has been mentioned by US military pilots.

[@userSchlonsch]

Absolutely fantastic video! A great insight into how these investigations work and what techniques could be used to determine the cause of an incident even years or decades later. And all that without going into wild speculation, dramatisizing or clickbait. Would defined love to see more content in this style

[@AMPMhandle]

I like your new improved style. Keep it up!

[@JohannesKonow]

As someone who works at sea and has worked in companies that map the sea floor; It is huuugely expensive. Our ship cost 600 000 usd/day to rent and we mapped maybe a few square km per day. Even with simpler technologies of mapping the sea floor, you'd spend trillions, possibly quadrillions of dollars just to map some percent of the Indian Ocean. It will likely never ever be found. We routinely find wrecks that have been missing in the baltic sea for almost a century and the number of wrecks where we have no idea where they are is huge... It can be anything from ships to war planes... We even have a batch of barrels missing, full of mercury dumped by an industry back in the 1950s when it was legal, our government spend loads of money searching for it, yet we haven't found it and we know more or less where it is, something we don't with this plane. And the Baltic is puny compared to the Indian Ocean.

[@oxcart4172]

Your great standards never drop. Yet another excellent video sir.

[@ederss7]

Even if we consider the bizarre electrical failure a Latam's b777 had in 2018, that failure would not be enough to explain the MH370's fate. It's quite obvious that the plane was taken down by its pilots or anyone else.

[@nade5557]

In a lot of cases the failure is something completely unforeseen and looking back it would be quite obvious, so I am trying to keep an open mind. Though there is still a large possibility that it was on purpose

[@bishraddas5413]

When it comes to airplane crash investigations, your videos are among the best. Your way in presenting the facts is easy to follow even for non-aviation people. This new way of analyzing an un-solved crash story is quite interesting, but not as thrilling or informative as your usual work. Thank you and keep it up.

[@akira808state4]

The right flaperon linked to Flight MH 370 was discovered in late July 2015 on beach in Saint-André, Réunion about 4,000 km west of the underwater search area. It was identified “with certainty” through serial numbers found on the internal components on the flaperon. The FDR (Flight Data Recorder) is actually bright orange, not black, to aid in recovery. If the aircraft is indeed found, recovery of the FDR will prove to be the most important part of the puzzle. I’d be surprised if they recover it and to be able to read it.

[@peberdah]

Flaperon aspect testify of a controlled landing, this conclusion imply that pilot/s just calmly stay seated for hours, till the plane reached to the most remote part of the ocean, followed in the cabin, by hundreds of inanimate passengers and crews, how awful.

[@GrabbaBeer]

Inanimate? Like they were knocked out? Or they were fake ?

[@davidhood6967]

Whether or not seat belts are in a locked or unlocked position would also be a clue as to what might have happened.

[@FutureSystem738]

100% certain it was one of the pilots, and 99.9% certain it was the captain. (There is just no way it was an accident!) We will NEVER know the full story. Finding the wreckage will do nothing whatsoever to change that- maybe just give some closure to those who lost loved ones. Top of climb- the FO goes to the loo. The captain doesn’t let him back in, and depressurises the plane whilst wearing his oxygen mask. He switches off transponders and carries out his bizarre plan to divert and head into the Indian Ocean. We will never know the full “why”?

[@hepphepps8356]

The captain isn’t a very likely candidate. Atheist family men with a knock for stand-up comedy doesn’t generally end up as terrorists.

[@FutureSystem738]

@@hepphepps8356 Sadly ANYONE can do this if they’re mentally ill, and/or suicidal and depressed. It’s very likely nothing whatsoever to do with “terrorism”, (though that’s still a remote possibility). Unfortunately there are murder suicides that happen nearly every day somewhere in the world, including many where fathers kill their own kids (so their wives can’t have them.) When they are that mentally ill, they don’t care if it is one person they’re killing, or hundreds. There was the German Wings Airbus , Silk Air 737, Egypt Air 767 and many others- sad but true.

[@joerivanlier1180]

Mapping the bottom and using side scan sonar are two totally different techniques. it can only find out if it's not silted over and we know what we looking for. So if it doesn't look like a plane, what the wreckage would indicate, the debris and a lot of other underwater garbage (lost cargo, dumped parts, everything from WWII) are pretty much the same, even on sidescan. The only way to know is ROV operations, and that's pretty expensive.

[@MrNicoJac]

It's already been more than SEVEN years???? Damn!

[@fhowland]

March will be eight years

[@notsocooldude7720]

We know the transponder was turned off and we know that someone manually and deliberately turned the plane towards the Indian Ocean. As you mentioned we know it crashed in the ocean so the only real questions left are who exactly did it and why. If the data on those flight recorders can’t be recovered then we’ll never know the truth

[@DennisMorrison1955]

In regard ti a controlled ditching you said that it "wouldn't leave a trail of debris for anyone who might be looking for the plane." However, over the last 9 years debris has been found in numerous places, would that point towards to something else being more than likely, or not given the time the pieces have had to move around?

[@jeremylively5934]

Oh,and also I. Hope you will always start your episodes the same way you always do with, This is the story of....... .I love that.

[@muhammadraza9163]

Greatest mystery of Aviation RIP to the departed souls

[@anthonywalker7817]

Ever thought about doing mystery audio books? You got the voice too

[@jeremylively5934]

This is my Favorite chanel,what a grate program,keep up the good work.

[@peterblanker7363]

Exactly where the plane went down is a mystery but how it got there is not... They have very reliable information as to what direction the plane was flying in and they know it ultimately crashed into the southern Indian ocean. Based on the information available, like the transponder being disabled, lack of communication from the flight deck, the route the plane travelled according to satellite telemetry, etc. it is clear that one of the 2 pilots took control of this plane and deliberately crashed it. Which one of the two is open for speculation but one is a more likely candidate than the other. This is not a unique event either. There have been at least 3 other events, that I can remember, where a pilot deliberately crashed a plane to commit suicide. The last one I can recall is that German pilot who flew an Airbus into the side of a mountain in Europe somewhere...

[@fhowland]

Yup and Egypt air 990

[@TikkaQrow]

Data rot is influenced, to some amount, by ambient temp. It is very cold at the bottom of the ocean, if they find the wreck in the next decade there's a good chances the boxes will still be readable. But, yeah, the 2060s would be a very long time for NAND chips to hold data

[@livelyupmyself1]

I would be amazed if they find it within the next 30 years. We’ve never even found Amelia…

[@danhemming6624]

Different. Amelia's plane was tiny compared to MH370. We will only find the wrecks if they are located where we can find them.

[@yadt]

That's cause she got abducted by aliens who took her to the Delta quadrant in suspended animation for no particular reason.

[@danhemming6624]

@@yadt Wet Towel anybody?

[@simonm1447]

Amelias bones have been found with a high probability, and 2021 a Lockheed Electra was found in a lagoon, discovered on satellite maps.

[@theoldsmobilefox3101]

@@simonm1447 can you post a link about the Electra?

[@kid7856]

Unless there is a tremendous shift in our society in the future there will be interest in this crash for hundreds of years from now. The amount of time and energy historians and hobbyists spend on things from hundreds and thousands of years ago with almost no evidence is staggering and again, unless there is a major shift in how our society works, that will never change.

[@brianmuhlingBUM]

Another epic job of making us wonder what happened to MH 370. Everyone has a theory. It will be found, but if not in my time perhaps in my children's time and then the investigator's will discover what happened. As it was flying for such a long time before ditching, I reckon the oxygen had been turned off and the passengers and crew went to sleep through hypoxia and then death long before it hit the water. Would someone please comment on this? Maybe the pilot had a death wish, but why wait so long? All part of the mystery. Keep up with your excellent topics. Your channel is terrific.

[@morphthebear3091]

actually the investigators though that before but 3 out of the 4 turns are "too human" to have been done by thy autopilot 1st turn (right after contact loss): this turn is too steep, a planes computer wouldn't let the autopilot turn that far 2nd turn (just as the military radar picked MH370 up): also still too steep. 3rd turn might have been done by the autopilot, but what investigators don't understand is, who made that one final turn? many people suspect oxygen or fire, but why then didn't they contact the tower? (swiss 111s crew did), to me it looks like the plane either a) lost all communication power at the same time or b) Zaharie Ahmad Shah the captain of the plane turned it off himself, and took all 239 people on board with him to his death. but at this point of time, it's nothing but speculation

[@brianmuhlingBUM]

Bang on. Your suspicions sound very plausible. Thank you.

[@morphthebear3091]

@@brianmuhlingBUM the only conclude evidence we have for options Bs theory is the flaperon, it looks like the trailing edge has been razored off by the water (water if hit at a high speed acts as a solid, so for planes it's sandpaper)

[@moosecat]

Good video, but some of the comparisons fall a little flat. Pan Am 103 had a large debris field because of a bomb detonating while in mid-flight while at or near cruising altitude. TWA 800 also exploded in mid-air, but the debris was relatively easy to recover as the ocean is less than 200 feet deep, and there was a very rapid response (right off of Long Island). The depth of the Indian Ocean is about 10,000 feet. I wish them luck in finding MH 370, but I'm not holding my breath.

[@ondrejsedlak4935]

My take on MH370: Pilot went bonkers, and took the plane on a one way trip to Titanic land. There’s absolutely no way something like this could have been an accident. I am also positive the passengers and cabin crew knew what was going on and attempted to stop it to no avail.

[@danilon3121]

There is no obvious alternative to the theory that someone purposely flew the plane into the sea. Terrorists wouldnt have been quiet about it, and an accident just doesn't explain the flight path for many hours without any attempts of communications. I hope I'm wrong but it is difficult to concieve of another set of circumstances that would fit what we know. As for the passangers, I want to believe that the crew quietly attempted to resolve the problem and that at least some, if not majority, of passangers were blissfully unaware. Crews tend to be quite brave and stoic like that. We may never know but we can hope.

[@AshishKumar-fn9en]

@@danilon3121 correct

[@ian7379]

Completely agree. There is no alternative explanation that fits the available facts. Malaysia wants to pretend otherwise, just like Egypt before it - but the truth is pretty self-evident: suicidal pilot who murdered his passengers and crew. Very sad. May the pilot rot in hell.

[@tonamg53]

Yes, there’s no other alternatives possible theory based on the fact from the route flown by the plane and the debris found (which indicates a soft water landing, not a crash) However, I doubt that anyone else on the plane aware what was going on though. The hijack pilot would only have to flipped a switch to slowly depressurised the cabin which would incapacitate everyone not wearing oxygen mask in minutes and then followed by death not long after…

[@ian7379]

@@tonamg53 That is what makes it so insidious, the victims probably had no idea they were about to die. What kind of pathetic man takes out his frustrations on innocent men, women and children…. I assume he believed his family would be taken care of through insurance payments if he covered up his suicide and the murders. Awful. So many accidents are cause by human error and a few like this by deliberate sabotage … probably a lot safer if we just let computers fly planes and not people.

[@christosvoskresye]

Whether and when it is found will depend strongly on the condition of the plane on the seabed. If, as some suggest, there was some sort of controlled ditching at sea, there should be large pieces that will make identification much faster. It's hard to imagine a story that could provide that ending, though. If, on the other hand, no piece larger than a washing machine remains intact, and it is spread over several square miles of deep ocean, it might be nearly impossible to distinguish from other garbage littering the seafloor.

[@advorak8529]

Do you think that hundreds of miles from the nearest coast there is a lot of up to washing machine sized litter all over the sea floor? What is it and how did it get there?

[@christosvoskresye]

@@advorak8529 Yes, I do, if it lies in shipping lanes. There's a kind of island of floating garbage hundreds of miles from the nearest coast in the Pacific right now. But for heavy things that sink to the bottom, cargo is washed off ships more frequently than you might suspect. This would be a bigger problem for finding Flight 19 than for MH370, but still -- did you not hear the point about this search turning up century-old wreck? At any rate, it takes a pretty high-resolution scan to pick up something as small as a washing machine, and boulders that size are not uncommon. If you don't know exactly where to look, you'd better hope the pieces are big, or we will probably not live to see the plane found.

[@SDK-im8sl]

I'm a proponent of the theory that something caused a sudden explosive decompression in the cockpit, such as the windshield suffering a catastrophic failure. This could have killed or very severely incapacitated the pilots, while autopilot could have continued functioning. A badly injured and struggling pilot near death may have input the single known course change, but there are ways that could have happened without human input in a damaged cockpit. Cabin emergency oxygen, if available, would have been depleted after no more than 10 minutes. Any passengers and cabin crew who may have been briefly able to try would have been unable to gain access through the fortified cockpit door during their limited time of remaining consciousness. The plane would have flown on for hours on autopilot until running out of fuel. Just a theory, but one suggested by several qualified experts, and one that I think fits all firm evidence.

[@danniballecter7936]

Apparently, there's been some potentially new evidence as to where the plane might have disappaeared. The use of HAM radios have been able to, supposedly, track the path the plane had taken, which indicates that there was a 20 minute period where it went into a holding pattern at one point. Hopefully, they are able to get the money together to do another search. I watched a couple of videos about this new info, but here's one from 60 Minutes Austrailia (the vid is only 19 min): kzbin.info/www/bejne/gKKQlWeBoZ2LnpY

[@KizzyKat14]

it may very well turn out to be a titanic situation, went down in 1912, wasn’t found til the 80’s and now it’s one of the most known stories in the world. one day we’ll find mh370 and it’ll be just as legendary as titanic

[@AlexConnor_]

Maybe. Not too sure though. Plane is a lot smaller, and could be in a lot more pieces. And we knew roughly where to find the Titanic.

[@PavlosPapageorgiou]

Whether the cause was fire, depressurization, or a malicious act by the pilot, the cockpit voice recorder will likely be silent and the flight data recorder will show level flight until the plane ran out of fuel. That's because the devices record only the last half hour of data until their power goes out. In this case we're interested in the events that happened around the Strait of Malacca but we know the plane continued flying for hours after, overwriting the data. Unless we find a confession or some other interesting message, the recordings will likely be silent until the plane hits the water.

[@englishmuffinpizzas]

Another important fact about the black boxes is that they simply might not tell us much, even if we could read them. We know the transponder was deliberately turned off, as was most of the power to the aircraft disabling the satellite telephone and other systems. Someone who knew to do that and wanted to hide the evidence what happened later certainly would pull the circuit breaker on the black boxes before doing anything else. Even before disabling the transponder. Of course, those who don’t want to believe it was deliberate they will always be able to say the black box cut out at the same time as other systems due to a massive electrical failure. Leaving us in a similar situation as we are already. I strongly suspect those black boxes only ever contained information about the first part of the fight, where things were all routine. We were never meant to know what happened after that

[@livablecity]

I like this style, it was slightly less technical and still very informative

[@margaretmathis4775]

I’m curious to know if the FDR and CVR had enough memory to record the entirety of the flight, or if they over-wrote data?

[@imanxietyy8044]

The FDR records the entirety of the flight documenting everything the plane did all the way up to the crash & the CVR only records the last 30mins of the flight :)

[@EzraBradford]

@@imanxietyy8044 You said FDR twice - is that a typo?

[@imanxietyy8044]

@@EzraBradford it is thank you for that, lol didn’t even realize it

[@NielsC68]

Unless circuit breakers were pulled?

[@imanxietyy8044]

@@NielsC68 Who knows, Capt Zaharie may have have pulled the circuit breaker for the CVR, like Capt Tsu Way Ming did on Silk Air Flight 185

[@noblenoisii7283]

Bruh good video love the style change

[@JeremyMaldonadoSTK]

The titanic sank in 1912, it was found in the 80's, I'm pretty sure the MH370 will eventually be found but it won't be any time soon

[@Operngeist1]

I like the new style!

[@Γιώργος-ΕυγένιοςΤζωρτζίνης]

Perhaps flights over sea or their over sea parts recording should be live uploaded in a cloud, with the help of satellites when needed ?

[@MSBProductions2023]

Can you investigate about MH17?

[@clarsach29]

The crash site of MH370 is of course a mass grave, which brings with it its own problems...there is a good argument certainly to leave the wreckage where it is and never attempt to raise it as with AF447 and even the Titanic...I think the chances of finding it are slim, but if it came to rest on flat ocean floor it is possible. If it fell into a deep chasm or valley or broke apart as it settled it is much less likely.

[@SpeedbirdNine9]

That's what happened to the discovery of the Edmund Fizgerald that was wrecked on Lake Superior in November 1975. The families petitioned the government to stop all exploration of the wreck because of this.

[@00BillyTorontoBill]

Watcheable content ...keep it coming...

[@awandrew11]

You are the best of them all!

[@uceid]

The instruments position could be tell a lot. The cockpit door would also tell or rather confirm a few theories.

[@no_name_ideea09]

Whats the game called? You play it to represent the crashes in every video and makes it verry clear

[@Daanlikkewaan]

Look at the part of the flight path that is known. That is intentional, the craft is under control. If the craft is out of control it will either fly in a continuous straight line, or be completely erratic, as the pilot(s) tried to control it. It looks to my like the pilot was in full control of the aircraft. So either they were hijacked, or the pilot intentionally led them into the abyss.

[@gettothepoint2707]

I think it was pilot su@#&de. Cause, the investigators found a flight route on the captain's flight sim that matched the actual flight route. What else can it be?

[@speen9430]

Love your vids bro

[@kzrlgo]

Great content, keep it coming. Thank you

[@martine-e-dee]

Hi. Just chiming in to add that by mapping the entire seabed of the Earth, it is inevitable to also find things that are down there.

[@thatguyalex2835]

I am surprised we haven't sent autonomous nuclear powered or solar powered seacraft/subs down into the ocean yet as of 2022, and mapped the whole ocean floor using sonar.

[@martine-e-dee]

@@thatguyalex2835 Hi. I understood that is what happened, from reading the Wikipedia page on the crash. See, there was a company (can't bother to look up the name) that was doing it for a long time, and they came out empty-handed. Despite all the tech, it is a VAST area to explore and map. There are even conspiracy theories that they found the airplane and for some reason, there was no disclosure. It's a hot topic.

[@thatguyalex2835]

@@martine-e-dee Yep, it is a debatable topic. I do hope that we find the plane in the next 5 years though.

[@ftxaviation]

Well currently someone says that he has found it and has the exact coordinates. A search is meant to happen soon.

[@pepe6666]

the format change is actually quite welcome :) its cool to do special editions now & then. i reckon you should do videos like this rarely but not all the time. i like the routine & the tropes you have invented. you have cliches and catchphrases & thats always a great sign. this .. is the comment pepe6666 left for mini air crash investigation. thanks for reading my comment, it will really help the channel grow :)