If you don't have Huohuo, Current MoC 11 can be harder than MoC 12

[@geekerandy8773]

Kafka: 40% Lightning RES. Me: nah, brute force Acheron.

[@Karma-cj1zj]

nah i said "hold my 102 cr 340 cdmg inbibitor lunae

[@somerandomguy340]

My fuxuan can't sustain my jingliu team long enough😭

[@xdlol9436]

I really regret getting fu xuan on her rerun

[@somerandomguy340]

I hope it’s just skill issue on my part. If they let you control when she auto regens she’d be so much better because she keeps wasting stacks upon reaching 49% of her health.

[@noreakseymeang5641]

What’s ur build? Cuz i had no issues sustain with her

[@JoyceDais]

My break effect team and mono quant cleared it im not sure whats going on 😔

[@Schione.]

1st phase i use basic firefly break team, 2nd phase i just use clara hypercarry with march 7th as the sustain. No, you don't need huohuo. No, it's not that hard. Yes, i did get 3 stars

[@linal7048]

Ofc its NOT THAT HARD if you have brocken FIREFLY

[@Schione.]

@@linal7048 lol yea i won't deny that cuz clara did take 7 cycles

[@cicada92]

the first half i use Acheron and Gallagher as sustain and my god by the time Cocolia comes and she do her charge attack all of my team die except Gallagher

[@gazztears2140]

for 2nd phase is easier using Dr.Ratio im not sure why you called this harder... you make your self work harder using jingliu tbh

[@kingranger9515]

I used Argenti

[@purechaos397]

MoC 11 and 12 was a breeze with acheron and firefly

[@danielwu6891]

@@purechaos397 everythings a breeze with acheron and firefly

[@duongnhdn]

Not quite. I have no HuoHuo and it took me 9 cycles to clear 12 when 11 only took 4. I use the exact same teams for both, Firefly Stelle Gallagher Ruan Mei for team 1 and Robin Aventurine Clara Sparkle for team 2. All on Auto.

[@sergeanthuman]

lynx got this

[@imagineboredom]

laughs in aventurine

[@johneisleytiu5110]

I bruteforce everything with my Acheron+Aventurine and Boothill+RuanMei team lol

[@TraiLBlazeR940]

Nah my FF and Acheron are Chilling like they see them as Bunching bags. The only thing that i'm afraid is Lock Toughness bar and A Freaking Shield that block any incoming Attacks/Dmg in the next future boss or mobs.

[@JohnSmith-oc6gm]

What is this sudden surge of Huohuo propaganda?

[@Voidling977]

Its so you can waste your pulls on the inferior healer so you dont have any pulls when mommy lingsha releases.

[@tayyabo]

Bro she doesn't even look like a mommy lmao​@@Voidling977

[@tonzhanlotus1299]

​@@Voidling977lol

[@dante19890]

Dont think lack of Huohuo is the problem. Problem is you trying to bruteforce with Jingliu off element , eating up a lot of cycles

[@Spartexer]

brute force shouldn't be a problem especially with a powerhouse jingliu but huohuo does provide a lot of offensive utilities so that can actually help big time also she works great with jingliu

[@dante19890]

@@Spartexer jingliu has fallen off now when Firefly and Acheron setting the new dps standard. She also do much less DMG against Bosses without E1

[@Spartexer]

@@dante19890 >fallen off brother having only 2 dps isn't falling off lmao. Acheron and firefly aren't a must if you actually believed that. yes jingliu is not on "their" powerlevel but she is still a tier above rest so having just 2 dps above her doesn't take away the raw power she has. She has brute forced in the past and did quite alright in this as well. I also skipped acheron btw I know how powerful she can be but that doesn't take away the investment I have on my account to clear endgame.

[@dante19890]

@@Spartexer you do realize there is embedded powercreep in this game right? Endgame content is constantly getting harder bit by bit while new characters getting stronger. This will inevitably make older characters fall off aka not as strong as they were at release.

[@Spartexer]

@@dante19890 and that's what I am saying. Jingliu is still strong is my short point despite having 2 stronger dps powercreep is inevitable a 100% and it's evident but as long as characters are not irrelevant like say blade they will be fine and more to jingliu like rest all the dps in the game are still tier below and again firefly and acheron are never a must for the endgame we have. so the position of jingliu is still strong and it's evident from all her clears

[@maingrader4434]

Kafka exists: Bullys her with fua team but no topaz instead silverwolf, uh i kind of missed topaz rerun cuz I pulled robin 💀

[@samplebample1194]

I cleared first phase with the same team as you did, then second Phase I used FuXuan, Welt, Ratio and Clara (my Clara is barely upgraded) I managed to beat it in 20cycles, most being used on phase 2. Had to retry two times because Kafka killed Clara.

[@Xelthirion]

I used aventurine the GOAT with acheron to clear it with auto battle easy money

[@velda2914]

i did it with asta robin bronya welt, deja vu team

[@proltoen3892]

Cleared first half with Himeko, Jade, Ruan and Aventurine, all E0S0, first try Second half with Bronya E3S1, Harmony MC, Gallagher and Boothill E0S0

[@loanncastarez2541]

yeah, fighting Kafka without Huo Huo cleasing your team is kinda painful....

[@arzonong7363]

You cleared in 4 cycles. What is the problem? Don't tell me you only want to clear zero cycle?😂

[@Tamako-g7d]

I only have natasha and gallager 😭😭 kafka is hard

[@user-ip8]

Nah as tb48 player who can't beat aventurine in story me too

[@princepidove7089]

@@user-ip8 what teams have you been using in that fight?

[@user-ip8]

@@princepidove7089 Natasha Clara Asta tingyun

[@princepidove7089]

@@user-ip8 Hmmm, i'd say if you're struggling that much, run a second sustain over someone like asta, as there's no time limit to the fight. Maybe look for relics that have higher hp/defense modifers

[@princepidove7089]

And if you're REALLY struggling try keeping healing ults till the last possible second to maximize healing

[@kingranger9515]

Meanwhile, I finished them all in auto 😅, I only do it manual if auto doesn’t win me any battles

[@copyvw]

i just use ff on kafka side

[@robnoob6820]

use firefly 2nd half and brute force 1st half