If you own a BMPCC 4k/6k is it worth it to get a Blackmagic URSA Mini Pro 4.6K G2?

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[@sunsetchasers581]

I was recently faced with a similar situation. Buy a 6k as a second camera to go with my 4K, or buy an ursa mini pro g2. I decided on the ursa for several reasons. It’s heavier, and has a better look if you want to shoot handheld style stuff. The high frame rate, because I wanted a 120fps that cuts well with base frame rate stuff, and wasn’t happy with the crop version on pocket 4K. Built in nds, better xlrs, and last but not least that extra dynamic range!! I may have saved some money if had gone with another pocket, but I figured it was smarter to get another camera that could do different things well, than a second camera that does the same things well and poorly, for the times I need two cams rolling. I get much more use out of the g2 and pocket combo than I would out of two pockets. After shooting the two in identical conditions I definitely think most people have underplayed the differences in image quality. My ursa footage looks much cleaner and punchier at the same time.... unless There isn’t enough light for the sensor. You’re one of the first people I’ve seen who feels similarly as I do that the dynamic range is easily noticeable and not insignificant.

[@jadoon702]

I believe both the pockets are great but if you started with the 6K then your second camera should definitely be the ursa g2

[@boozeontherocks]

Dammit. No I want and Ursa. I can't afford it yet. But you are right. Black Magic started something..

[@akpevbe]

Dude i like your videos but this is just you happy to be sent a G2. I have a rigged up P6k and its 100% not a side chick to the G2. REAL benefits of the G2 are HFR and15 stops dynamic rage (didn't notice ANY dynamic rage difference in your samples by the way). Benefits of the 6K is it can be COMPACT or Rigged to a G2 size, its really good at low light and its 6K, easy to mount on ANY gimbal. Audio on the Pocket cameras is BETTER than OK. People are so SPOILT these days, they look for MINOR things to HATE on equipments. I shot a feature film on a 5d3 Magic lantern that screened at TIFF and was on NETFLIX for 3 years (and it was EASY to use). P4K/6K is 100% more than enough for anything you want to do.

[@TheCuttyBrown]

U shot benny bizzle?

[@akpevbe]

@@TheCuttyBrown yes most of he's videos. You know him?

[@TheCuttyBrown]

@@akpevbe nah I was just checking out your videos.. looking good!

[@AlexNejera]

how did you mount it on a ronin s I'm having trouble balancing mine

[@akpevbe]

@@AlexNejera I mount mine on a FreeFly MoviM5

[@brittanijackson2968]

Side chick reference was the moment I hit da floor lol.

[@FlashFilmAcademy]

😂😂

[@RandyRuizvideomedia]

I clicked on your video by accident but I'm glad I watched it. Love what you're doing and I enjoy that you keep it real.

[@quickbrain1581]

Literally just had a conversation about this topic yesterday! Thanks a lot!

[@isaiahkazarovich]

Awesome content! Keep up the great work Flash Film! I’m interested if you’d compare the Ursa to other Cinema cameras (like the c200, Sony fs7, etc.). Would definitely tune in to that!

[@DiqaunColeman]

"It screams B-CAM" LOL. My man Ty!!!

[@freddymiguelponce]

First time in your channel and i think this video is GREAT! I'm kind of new to this world; so if you allow me one question please. Do you think the same about the BMPCC 6K Pro vs2 the Ursa? Thanks in advance and sorry for my English i'm still learning Have a Productive and Healthy day!

[@FlashFilmAcademy]

Yeah I think cit still take a lot of work

[@giraffeapproved]

I bought the 6K for professional corporate videos. A lot of the shooting is for a mining company. Shooting in dimly lit environments and even underground 8000 feet. A lot of run and gun. And I can safely say the 6k with the right accessories is a beast.

[@anwarideloff3471]

Ursa G2 is really good investment. I've bought one after P4K. Ursa 15 stops are great. BRAW 3200 ISO 👍 also usable.

[@aboyhasnoname5356]

How does the blakmagic URSA V1 compare to the Pocket 6K

[@FlashFilmAcademy]

Ursa provides more dynamic range. Bmpcc provides better low light and smaller size

[@aboyhasnoname5356]

@@FlashFilmAcademy So you would recommend the URSA is what I´m hearing? Even as a Version 1

[@Xit19PodcastRoomLLC]

Dope info bro! Now I know what direction to move in. Appreciate the it!

[@LenteFilms]

Saludos desde Colombia, entre la Ursa Mini y la Ursa mini g2 hay mucha diferencia? me recomendarias la Ursa Mini g1 en lugar de la BMPC 6K?

[@jbobdawghomeysizzle]

I don't even know where to start learning. I love photography, I want to understand shooting videos, and someday I would love to get paid to shoot commercials, but If i'm just starting out, where the heck do I start?

[@rifqinaufal3115]

hi, love your video man, can i ask your advice since i'm at the crossroad at the moment and looking for guidance a little bit. right now i'm conflicted between Canon EOS C70 and Ursa Mini Pro G2 at the moment. I had Bmpcc 4k and i also use canon for photography so i had a bunch of ef lens. I'm still in my twenties, and somehow it feels like i had to choose between to girlfriend to marry too. I also just watch your video about choosing A7s3 than C70. which make me thinking, should i go for Ursa Mini Pro G2 or A7s3 as my main camera? becausue A7s3 offer such a great value.... tight body, no overheating, and cheaper...

[@rinusworldzm]

Definitely thinking ursa for the future. Budget constraints for now so I'm going with bmcc 2.5k or bmpcc.

[@TVperson1]

I don't know, the old Sony F900 had 10 stops and the first Red camera had 12 stops. So I think I can get away with the Pocket 4K for short films.

[@TokenBlkGuy]

What’s better to get a Sony alpha or the Blackmagic

[@AndrewRusk]

Nice video. Subbed

[@oligudbjartsson]

Are the lenses loose on your BMPCC 4K?

[@FlashFilmAcademy]

No not on mine

[@dwpix]

One question- If you had to ask Blackmagic to lend you the Ursa G2, whitehead one do YOU own and use?

[@FlashFilmAcademy]

So I’ve owned other URSAs (4K 👎🏾) then I went out and Bligh pockets. This was my first time using the G2

[@dwpix]

Thanks for the quick response! I am a little confused- You are stating that the Ursa is the “Workhorse”, and that the pocket is a great “B-cam”... What camera do you use right now for your “workhorse”?

[@nulu08]

You spelled business wrong on the box. Lol

[@FlashFilmAcademy]

damn

[@leebrandt33]

I guarantee that if you put the Pocket 6k at iso 800, and you don't use luts, you will get comparable dynamic range to the G2. I double dare you to try this

[@FlashFilmAcademy]

If I still had them I would

[@leebrandt33]

@@FlashFilmAcademy ok no worries. I personally prefer the dynamic range of the Pocket 6k, but the color science is better in the G2

[@keerohzproductions3671]

😂 the side chick analogies, you’re a fool man. Good video!

[@WashingtonMoyo]

at 5:10 you sold the URSA hard bro. :) I Just got my 6K. for me this video is for entertainment purposes only. until my pocket is right.

[@trevorpinnocky]

Body alone weighs 5lbs... By the time I put on my zacuto rails and plates, grips, and power... *and* my bigger glass? It's like... Nah.. I'm good. I'll stick with the pocket

[@doug_EX]

trevorpinnocky way more stable when it’s heavy.

[@milesmccall2301]

A rigged out 4k on rails is plenty of weight to be steady. Plus you can always add weight if you need it, but you can't take any of that 5lbs away.

[@kylehalim5957]

For a youtuber or wedding videographer, sure you have your point. But for a feature film, Ursa all the way

[@milesmccall2301]

@@kylehalim5957 That's a serious overstatement. But nothing on this channel is about making feature films, so it doesn't really matter.

[@kylehalim5957]

@@milesmccall2301 it's a cinema camera. So yeah...

[@gibbyvisuals]

“It screams B-cam” 🤣

[@RoKoFoRu]

I LOVE the way you talk, but be more PROfessional - talk less, so you don't spend my time from shooting when I need simple and quick answers to simple questions, instead of psyhology talks.

[@michaelcain6938]

8:25 embarrassing

[@mahdiyussuf9804]

It's a simple typo, the E key is right next to the S key

[@Team3Video]

Not embarrassing, just unfortunate. It's only embarrassing to those who have thin skin and think they never make mistakes.

[@milesmccall2301]

Can't agree with this take. It completely depends on what kind of work you do, not whether it's your livelihood or not. And for most the Ursa should stay a rental. Real estate, events, interviews, products, social media, local commercials. All the common freelance jobs that need 4k60 or less, the Ursa offers little practical benefits over the 4k. Dynamic range makes us happy as artists, but clients are unlikely to care. Ursa is a great camera, but for the 90% of us who don't routinely need more than 4k60 it's not a sound investment. That extra $4000 would be better spent on marketing and lighting. If you do tons of super slow-mo, or really really need the dynamic range, then obviously get the Ursa. Otherwise it's a rental for special projects.

[@FlyingLapMedia]

Someone caught it before me, but the box rendering has a typo. Bueiness.

[@wagnercs]

True. At 1:06...

[@matthewaitkenfilms9477]

Ive bern using the ursa mini pro g2 since it dropped, absolute dream to work with, but one thing you forgot.... it looks incredibly professional abd clients like that, ive gotten tonnes of clients just coz my rig looks really professional and once I've had a client say they think the RED cameras look too showboaty and they didn't trust it haha

[@hwcentertainment]

Truth!

[@sizmicmedia334]

I love your content man! Your channel is the perfect natural progression for someone now running or starting to run a video production company and has graduated from the dslrguide type channels. I appreciate your content greatly!!

[@SimoBenziane]

I liked your other videos, but you did not say anything except 15/13 Dynamic range difference and internal NDs. And just threw, B-cam, professionally and multiple metaphors about hummers. It took you until the end of the video to say reliability. This is why KZbin is a waste of time when one watches videos like yours, you care about making the video longer

[@anthonydavis4829]

Your passion for the Ursa had me booking a room for you two. I'm in Hawaii.

[@electricwavemedia]

Subscribed after the 50 cal on a hummer & the side chick references 😂 thank you for this one, the breakdown of black magic we all needed 💯

[@redeemed1108]

The side chick comment had me rolling!

[@davidgwolk]

My C500 Mark II does it all for me. Ursa is ok

[@Biggsisviews]

Yo!!!! Son!!!! You killing me right now!!!! HILARIOUS!!!!! Pocket is Cherokee and Ursa is a Hummer “in the middle of war” Yo!!! kid you made my day bro!!!!! Keep up the good work!!!! Oh yeah Ursa 12k pro is on deck, only thing holding me back is black magic dropping another camera out of nowhere😂😂😂😂😂

[@dongerramarco9617]

the Q is..does the end consumer know the difference???

[@ross1ful]

Another great presentation! Thanks 😊 QUESTION...What are your thoughts between the Ursa mini And the Z-cam E2?

[@KBFilms2]

Honestly the only benefit I see is that the G2 will make your clients have more trust in you. The pocket has a stigma because EVERYBODY has one. Perception is important in business.

[@billzidis2656]

I owned the original ursa v2,the ursa mini 4k,the ursa mini pro and after the ursa G2...Now i have also 2 BMPCC 6K and the only difference i noticed was the sensor...I believe the Ursas have 1.4x Crop where the BMPCC 6K has 1.558 (lets say 1.6)... About the audio is irrelevant,i'm using the Zoom H6 or F6...I don't believe is a good idea to record audio internally,i rock my H6 on my rig,has 2 backups so it's impossible to lose audio. The low light and DR won't matter if you know the basics of exposure etc. I will always prefer the BMPCC 6K because it's balancing also on my gimbals,even in the Ronin S using the cage and the ssd... That's a win... ] The internal ND's is the best part of the G2

[@darkechoproductionsllc9559]

So your saying you gotta spend over $8,000 to make a living and be taking serious by having this Ursa g2 and people who have the blackmagic pocket 4k can't make a living or be taking serious. Ya I'm sorry I don't agree with this at all

[@FlashFilmAcademy]

I’m not saying that at all. I’m simply saying that IF you were thinking of the URSA mini as some point before buying the bmpcc, it’s still worth the upgrade

[@darkechoproductionsllc9559]

@@FlashFilmAcademy it's cool I was just saying my peace, as I know people who have reds or Alexa or renting high ends for thier films and making a top of the line camera look like a dslr 😂. It's all about the lighting and getting the proper exposure on set not the camera.

[@FlashFilmAcademy]

Dark Echo Productions oh I know I did a video about it The Unspoken Industry Secret About Cinema Cameras over $7,000 kzbin.info/www/bejne/ipKah42IiNh3jNE

[@SkullyReacts]

He never said that you're just ignorant for assuming that.

[@darkechoproductionsllc9559]

@@FlashFilmAcademy yes I did watch that nicley put

[@ReginaldAshford]

Great video and info Ty.

[@Anthony.Laamaj.Production]

hey brother i wanna say thank you......this channel have put me up on some serious game I needed to know about...this channel made me rethink the way I'm running my brand.....so much small but serious details that's been crippling me.....you made me see business in a way I never thought of before because I think from a creator standpoint.......wish I could subscribe 10 times.....thank you

[@LycanVisuals]

I'll be happy enough with a 4k with my broke ass.

[@pixeworks1]

We just burnt a new BMPCC 6K $650 mistake, I just realized based on your other video that its the DTaP :( What a good DTAP do you recommend)

[@830Video]

I always say this to people interested in the G2. It is a workhorse. It is made to be PUT TO WORK. I have earned its costs back 10 fold in the 7 months ive owned it. It has been with me at 16k elevation climbing a valcano, and dominated corporate shoots and recently wedding films as well.

[@JeffBourke]

Nah I am first. There is a ten minute delay from Australia.

[@numbninja]

hmm I would call it the side arm not the side chick lol

[@FerrisFilms77]

I was about to buy another camera and have been waiting for 2 months but now I’m definitely getting this one. Never heard of it before. You da man

[@CoveringFish]

I’m going to wait until NAB unless I get a serious influx of cash before buying any new camera. 8k is on the horizon of being as cheap as 6k is now. My desire for new cameras is dwindling. BlackMagic is screaming that they will have a new higher end new camera that has a higher resolution then the 6k. Waiting to see if they drop anything. Then I will get the Ursa.

[@RandomMotoThings]

I think the pocket 6k is more versatile still for the portability. The image quality is still similar.

[@jmac2050]

Sticking with the BlackMagic, not enough spread to keep fence jumping.

[@CharlesStewartJr]

Good video with lots of great points. I personally own a pocket 4k and have a Canon C200 and URSA Mini 4.6k at work. For me, the Pocket 4k/6k is the perfect travel/interview camera. If I'm a one man band or have a very small crew, the Pocket is my go to camera. Its great for indoor work where you have limited lights and modifiers. For any outdoor work or moving subject stuff, the C200 is my go to. No one has the auto focus system down like Canon's Dual Pixel auto focus. I've seen it do things that the best 1st AC's I've known couldn't do in moving subject situations. That is unfortunately the main downfall of the Blackmagic cameras, their auto focus system is trash. For big crewed projects, I personally prefer the C200 as well. It's still light enough to fly on a Ronin S (stripped down with a light prime) and has the amazing low-light of the Pocket. I personally don't love the URSA Mini Pro at 1600 ISO in low light conditions. Since the price of the URSA Mini Pro and Canon C200 are about the same, it's hard to ignore all the benefits of the C200. That might change at NAB this year if Blackmagic can bring the low light capabilities of the Pocket to the URSA Mini Pro along with a better focus system. Anyway, that's just my two cents as a fellow filmmaker. Keep up the good work!

[@ozzozz3529]

i want internal nd filter in next mirrorless bmpcc camera.👍👍👍12k or 10k or 8k

[@kevinbatts2804]

I'm looking for an A cam for my Blackmagic 4k. This camera is definitely at the top.

[@jhunterentainment]

I'm confused. If the ursla is the choice camera, why you don't own one. You had to get them to send you one.?????

[@davidlundphotography1415]

Very well presented, but did feel a little like a promo video for the URSA?

[@JOEBLACK1979]

cool bro

[@danielshepherd7306]

Would love to see the S1H/S1 image quality vs Ursa image!!!

[@MrAyybee2cold]

Daniel Shepherd about the same as a S1H vs Panasonic’s cinema line. Cinema line wins S1H is a good B cam.

[@dantediego]

What are filming with for these talking head shots? Body and lens? It looks amazing

[@avinashrawal7928]

My people talk on point and always just cut the bs. No doubt why Obama was the president

[@sampriest12]

You are new to me and 4sure you're no side chick!!! My favorite channel fam! Keep grinding.

[@officialpatrickj]

I mean.... at least a Jeep Wrangler not the Cherokee 😂😂😂

[@erosefilms]

I do agree but I’m expecting a LF Black Magic camera this spring. I will wait and see if my hunch is correct.

[@PrimeVision-gp7zw]

Man!!!! I was almost sold on the Bpmcc4k. Now you hit me with this!!😭😞😡🤬

[@Robroy333]

My original Cannon Rebel T2i was $800.00. Not 200-300 . when it came out.

[@CMOOREDESIGN]

great video! What are your thoughts on the original ursa mini OR the pocket 4k?

[@FlashFilmAcademy]

I’d take the original pocket 4K (not the 1080p) over the ursa mini all day and night

[@eddibower]

ursa is just bells and whistles, all the xtra stuff are things that arent vital for a shoot

[@timlapointe4067]

Looking at buying one of these. This review was incredibly helpful, thanks!

[@GabrielScindian]

The pocket is a beast cam... I use it over my red dragon due to image qual, mobility, EOU and did I mention the mobility

[@markbenavides3345]

I expect all comparisons now to include "side chick" category.

[@bnnett]

I have to ask what camera do you use and do you have a course on color grading because I'm loving the footage I'm seeing from you, seen a bunch of Ursa videos yours just looks good. Please help point me in the right direction a brothers tryna learn.

[@bnnett]

Also I subscribed

[@BrianEason_DoingitwithGod]

So in your opinion, should I invest in the Ursa Mini G2 for filming or Bmpcc4k? I use the Gh5 for my corporate freelance jobs. But for filming I was thinking about either the Bmpcc4k or the Ursa G2

[@FlashFilmAcademy]

Filmmaking? G2 you get more dynamic range.

[@AlucinorProductions]

U nailed it man!! Keep up th3 great videos!!!

[@GaryJahman]

I told my brother to follow Todd Turner, but your name is Ty and your channel name is not the same haha!

[@FlashFilmAcademy]

Yeah it switched from FlashFilm media to academy a while back

[@DorKProductions]

Wish the Red Helium had the built in ND filters. Would make our job easier

[@MannyXO]

Bro you’re funny 😂 subbed

[@Amputee4life628]

I'm about to bite the bullet, but no one really says how to rig it to just get it started. So now the hunt begins to search. Very informative.

[@FlashFilmAcademy]

I have a video on that to

[@Deedzproductionz]

Look how your grind got you up to 23k you on your way to financial freedom

[@FlashFilmAcademy]

You grow by helping others

[@SandmanEsqTv]

Ayyyyyyyye what up Cuz?!? Long time no see. Glad to see you doin well💪🏿💪🏿💪🏿

[@FlashFilmAcademy]

Wzzzzzup bro!!! How have you been?

[@7sunclan298]

Thanks for this it's time for me to upgrade

[@ramonbannister9498]

Uh, yeah, I've always wanted a side chick, and wouldn't mind a new main chick, but I have to apologize to you, Ty, you're not my idea of a good side chick. ;) All kidding aside, I'd buy the URSA solely based on what you said here. But cash flow is a bit tight. My main is a Canon 80D, and I can get beautiful video out of it. But now I've decided...I'm going to save up for the URSA. What about a video comparison of Canon DSLR vs. URSA, or even the ENG-style Sony F5? I've heard the Sony is a beast as well. Not that I can afford either URSA or Sony. But would still be an interesting video to see side-by-side comparisons in different lighting situations, ungraded and graded.

[@FlashFilmAcademy]

I owned a FS5 I’d take a bmpcc4k over a fs5 is definitely take a ursa over a FS5

[@ramonbannister9498]

@@FlashFilmAcademy The camera I'm talking about - F5 - is different than the Fs5. The F5 is more like a TV broadcast-style, shoulder-mounted camera. I believe it's much more expensive than the URSA. But I'm still betting the URSA would compete w/ it in terms of picture quality.

[@TexpatOTG]

BMPCC 4k or 6k is a camera for even hobbyists to own. For commercial work the Ursa is great, and you can always rent exactly you need if cameras you own aren't right for the job. Good show!

[@freedomsmith8991]

I'm hanging with my lil GH5

[@sustainshots]

Braah u hit canon on the balls

[@joaomestre2584]

1:05 Business is wrong written.

[@curtisc8386]

Just found this channel, liking what I see, thanks for the content!

[@DiqaunColeman]

Ty, I definitely have shared a host of your vids in the past. You body of work here on KZbin speaks for itself. Very informative, charismatic, consistent, & you know your stuff. Creating creating bro! Support all the way from Maryland!!!

[@FlashFilmAcademy]

Thanks 🙏🏾 I was stationed out at FT Meade out there!

[@DiqaunColeman]

@@FlashFilmAcademy Very nice! Only 20mins from me. Hey man, if you are ever shooting in the DMV & if time permits for you, I'd love to meet up for lunch and talk all things photo & video... #keepcreating

[@JayGrapherTh]

a question i have about the idea of future proof. this is starting from 0 here. invest in the canon line mirrorless line R or RP, their adapters and using older EF lens 2nd hand, added this allows a path to go up to the blackmagic 6k that use the same EF mount. does this make sense?? (the blackmagic 6k would be bought much later with more experience and maybe at a cheaper cost when blackmagic release another new video camera) im just taking long term 5 years here.

[@FlashFilmAcademy]

Don’t get caught in in the 4k6k 8k crap the camera you have will hey the job done

[@JayGrapherTh]

@@FlashFilmAcademy thank you :)

[@JayGrapherTh]

@@FlashFilmAcademy side question - that ill search after this comment - the topic of renting camera gear to do work compared to owning gear? or owning a bit of gear then rent the remaining gear required for the job?

[@guguemichaels]

Hahahahah!!! This kept me laughing. Love the way you broke it down "side-chick" LMOA!!!!!

[@AllThingsFilm1]

I'm not into side chicks, either. But, I completely agree with you. I own the BMPCC4K, and I love it. Lately, I was thinking that the Ursa Mini Pro G2 would be my next camera. I shot a feature film with the GH5 last year. Later I sold it for the BMPCC4K. The director of the feature film and I are sitting down to come up with our next film. I'd be happy if my pay as DP was the Ursa Mini Pro G2. I'd accept that. :D

[@FlyingLapMedia]

If you still have the camera can you post some slow mo (edit) the 300 FPS*

[@FlashFilmAcademy]

Check end of the video

[@FlyingLapMedia]

@@FlashFilmAcademy I did. awesome shot. But is that the 300 FPS or the 120? Looked like 120. I have the 4K and the 6K and am truly contemplating getting the G2 just for the slow mo. *I shoot a lot of action sports. And the 300 FPS in particular is very compelling.

[@olivierfichantfilms8614]

Very useful content! Thanks!

[@DetroitVideoDiaries]

Cool bro I appreciate the realness But I think I want to keep using my both pockets 4K and 6K and at that price point I might have to use canon

[@kasaunhenry]

Phil Brown do you use both the 6K and 4K together as A and B cameras on shoots? If so, is a there a big difference between the footage from each in the final edit?

[@DetroitVideoDiaries]

@@kasaunhenry For me besides the 6k resolution, it feels the same for me when editing.

[@GermanDisla]

Yo just gave you a shoutout on my last video!! I reviewed the Sokani. Keep it real man love your work. Was just thinking about this subject yesterday, glad you keep the finger on the pulse of video. Any thoughts on an it’s upgrade soon? URSA mini 6k/8K ?!?!

[@daanschuurmans1966]

Love the channel