'YOU'RE AN IDIOT, IF...' - DAVE COLDWELL REACTS TO USYK BETAING FURY, RIGHT MAN WON? & AI JUDGE

[@jasontarantino2897]

Sugar knew Fury was losing. The gist of what he said in Fury’s corner before the 12th was he needed to take him out. He didn’t explicitly say that, as the rounds were close, even if the fight was not. But it was strongly implied. I can understand why Fury thought he won and we also know why Warren and Hearn had the score as they did. He’s in the ring giving it his all and fighting an even better fight than in the first fight. But if/when watch the fight over again, you’ll start to understand how Usyk won and why the scores came in as such. Usyk was the ring general; he had effective aggression throughout; his defense was on point; his punches were cleaner throughout and he was just way more precise with his punches. Again, Fury did a great job trying to control the fight and sometimes he did, but most times not. Fury wanted to control the center of the ring. That’s where he had most of his success in the first fight. But Usyk slowly pushed him back over and over. It was masterful footwork and body and head movement. Simply amazing. The body work on Usyk’s part was sick. So precise, so sharp and his positioning was perfect. And Usyk dictated the pace. Fury doesn’t want to fight at that pace. It was amazing to me that he didn’t gas completely, considering the weight. Fury needed a slower fight to win. That also was a problem for him. So, while Fury did a lot of things right, Usyk was still winning the majority of the sequences and even those that Fury won, Usyk always returned fire and struck him numerous times in the process. That impresses judges, as it should. And Usyk did focus on ends of rounds. Maybe not in the flashy way SRL did when he lost, I mean won, to the Marvelous One, but nonetheless. But it wasn’t about stealing rounds, it was realizing from the first fight that Fury slows and loses concentration in the last third of the rounds. That’s evident in the first fight. It was clear in the second. I don’t get robbery talk at all. Folks, let’s just stop the nonsense. You just saw one of the all-time greats at any weight beat a man 6” taller, 50lbs heavier with a huge reach deficit of about 7”. And that big man was an elite heavyweight champion that many said was unbeatable in any era. Usyk did this twice. And the second fight he was even better than the first! This accomplishment is historic. So, again no more nonsense. Just be glad you got to see Usyk fight, because as you speak about Floyd or Manny or RJJ, your kids will be speaking about Usyk. And that would never happen if Fury didn’t bring out the amazing fighter that he is. And let’s also remember: Fury won’t be a footnote in history. He’s a main player in Heavyweight division for the books. But Usyk is a historic talent. That’s something to see.

[@arnoldustwumasi1253]

Brilliant poignant analysis sir

[@elxarrallke]

Fury who?

[@greenzone-ot7cn]

This is the comment section not novel. Zzzzzzzzzz

[@AndrewLockwood889]

The punch statistics say it all. Usyk outlanded Fury in all but ONE round and was more accurate in every single round. It wasn’t a close fight at all. Usyk dominated

[@thesmallnotesduo]

Too many people continue to miss the Usyk body shots. All night long twice

[@DanielCordone9]

Yar landed more than Fury

[@Bendova-jy6bu]

That's all he did the entire fight stomach punches 😂

[@OneBP]

@@Bendova-jy6buscoring shots tho and slowing fury down in the later rounds

[@Bendova-jy6bu]

@OneBP boring fight is my point I want to see someone actually go after usyk put bakolie in there I think he has the right mindset you can't box usyk he will simply outwork you

[@OneBP]

@@Bendova-jy6bu do you not think Joshua, Dubois, fury, chisora all WANTED to go for him ? His footwork and faints constantly stop them from planting their feet, every time he faints or moves they have to reset. Ain’t as easy as go out their swinging, he will pivot and move until your tired and take you out.

[@RyanWegner]

Anyone saying Fury won that fight knows absolutely nothing about boxing lol. It was competitive - but Usyk won.

[@TheNotoriousGhost]

Seen a teddy Atlas interview and he got it spot on. Usyk knows how to win and won. It's that simple.

[@chickengizzard6707]

Dave Allen got Robbed 💯

[@freddiefreeman4119]

Can’t believe that anyone thinks they know better than, 3 judges, AI, Hearn, Atlas, ODLH, Caldwell, the list goes on and on. I notice the usual Fury trolls are a bit quiet on here 😂

[@NorthernAnt]

I get what your saying but don’t bring AI into it 😂😂😂

[@asdadfafafafffallslsldd8068]

This wasn't a very hard fight to score tbh. I think AI got it right and the judges didn't have it wide enough. Watched it twice now and it's hard to give Fury more than 2 rounds.. When I scored it live I had it 9-3 for Usyk, after watching it back I think 10-2 is a good score too. Round 1 was super close but I gave that to Fury. Fury clearly won round 5. It's really hard to give him any other rounds, but round 3 and 4 are close rounds that could be scored 10-10. Every single round from 6 and onwards is Usyk's round. Round 12 is close, but no way Fury won it. So ye I think AI was spot on with a 6 round margin. I really don't even think it was a very close fight. It was a chess match, but with a super clear winner in a dominant display.

[@DanielCordone9]

I just gave Fury the fourth round

[@asdadfafafafffallslsldd8068]

@@DanielCordone9 Round 4 was close yes. I think it could have been 10/10. Not necessarily wrong to give it to Fury.

[@beed6654]

I agree with the a.i as well. Its not biased and its scored it with all the boxing skills downloaded into it. A.I is better then judging as judges get things wrong all the time.✌

[@84tigershark]

Someone who talks sense

[@betterfinances-UK]

One of those fights 18 rounds wouldn't of been enough to satisfy, absolutely flew by. Right man won

[@deanoDEANO-lk5ve]

del boy gave usyk his best test at heavy weight

[@jh6273]

no chance Usyk himself said Fury has given him his biggest career challenge

[@dilochetty9332]

Cos usyk was still a cruiserweight then

[@JonBernard41]

Not so fast: Usyk didn't just beat Chisora. He used Chisora to outsmart the entire HW division. Usyk made himself appear vulnerable versus Chisora, and Joshua took the bait. He gave AJ false hope, intentionally. Then beat him x2. Usyk, All-Time Great.

[@LancashireLad1975]

Del boy haha fury give usyk the hardest fights at he Chisora though loooool Pack it in kid 👍

[@SunniAthari]

Whether you believe him or not Usyk said he played possem with Chisora to lure in AJ to a fight

[@billdoor3140]

Usyk landed more in 10/12 rounds. Fury threw more but was made to miss repeatedly. What are the Fury non boxing fans judging this bout on ring walks? 😂

[@MusicAddict971]

Me and you just of been watching a different fight... The first half of that fight was all fury... Fury absolutely won that fight last night.. usyk stepped it up in the second half but fury adapted.. fury certainly won rounds 9,10 and I gave fury the first 5 rounds.. he was dominating! He was actually out boxing the man everyone said he couldn't outbox.. all of uysks shots came from outside range and fury used his jab so brilliantly in the first 6 rounds. I absolutely thought usyk won the first fight but imo last night was an easier fight to score.. and fury absolutely won that fight... And the scorecards giving usyk 8 rounds is embarrassing.

[@X5JJA3764]

​@MusicAddict971 must be correct it music addict scored it to fury not most of the boxing experts that scored it to usyk and the judges 😂jesus give it a rest and just enjoy the fights instead of thinking your teddy atlas

[@MusicAddict971]

At the end of the day your aim in boxing is to take away your opponents strengths and use your assets and hit and not get hit. And in all of those metrics fury was all over uysk until round 6. There's such a thing as effective and in effective shots.. and usyk didn't land a single effective shot until round 6. That's all because of the brilliant work fury was doing! And exactly what fury didn't do in the first fight.. he actually made his reach, height and weight advantage count unlike fight 1. Tyson fury absolutely won that fight, for me it wasn't even all that close I had it fury 8 rounds to 4 and even scoring it the harshest way I could possibly do I had it a draw at 6-6. I cannot make a simple argument for usyk winning that fight. Usyk for the first time did not have an answer for what was in front of him until round 6 when fury slowed down. Usyk is always able to adjust and he couldn't.. he couldn't close the distance.. he wasn't using his body shots enough until the second half of the fight, everything was at the range fury wanted it to be.. And for me the simplest way to put it is when usyk started to take control... Fury had an answer. Usyk didn't.

[@RatedH1]

@@MusicAddict971🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

[@luqastheservant]

😂😂😂😂😂

[@TheNotoriousGhost]

All that stealing rounds nonsense I agree totally with. Can't lose all 2 and a half minutes but win the round because you had your opponent on the ropes when bell went. Crazy

[@Ben-u5x]

Usyk won fairly. End of.

[@peteroberts3232]

Disagree with Dave on the AJ comments, think the opposite Was in AJ‘s interest for Fury to lose If Fury won, the trilogy was on. AJ‘s only chance of fighting Fury was for him to lose

[@craigeboy70]

I think AI is needed in sport there's been to much BS over the years and it will clearly make it fair. There will always be some other controversy or talking point but the right person needs to be with winner imo and it was right .

[@gypsyman1939]

I’m bias towards fury 💯% but even I said Fury needs to win rounds 11 and 12 to win fight. He started good but the pace got to him and he didn’t want to get stopped.

[@DanielCordone9]

His defence was better

[@gypsyman1939]

@ maybe maybe not not a clear known

[@freedom4mealways]

While I was hopeful about his trainer, I have stated for the longest time that Sugar Hill is all wrong for Tyson Fury. Fury lacked the specific footwork, tactics, technique, and skillset needed to defeat someone like Usyk. No one will ever outbox Usyk. However no one should ever be too simplistic in fighting Usyk. Someone like Fury still needs a mildly diverse strategy in order to defeat this southpaw. More importantly, Fury showed no aggressiveness in the early and mid-rounds. He should have actively pursued Usyk and he did not.

[@Bendova-jy6bu]

The entire fight was stomach punches 😂

[@rockybalboap7763]

boring snoring 50 million each for that ???

[@FarisLukovic]

How would you like them to fight? Relaxed answer please. I am genuinely asking.

[@rockybalboap7763]

@FarisLukovic Styles makes fights and its always gona be a tippy tappy fight between them 2 ? theres plenty younger more exciting fighters who dont get a look in ? whats exciting about fury or joshhua now apart from being well overpaid ?

[@FarisLukovic]

@@rockybalboap7763 I see what you are saying. Neither are big punchers for the weight and since they both expect the other one to be able to take the damage and still be there til the 12th, it's a certain medium danger vibe all the time. On the flip side, the huge money is for the status and the belts,which these guyssl worked their whole carrer for to obtain. Great tactical fights, but not top in violence-exitment.

[@amurleopard51]

​@@rockybalboap7763 fury got paid £81 million for the 1st fight. No joke.

[@rockybalboap7763]

@@amurleopard51 no wonder his wife is always smiling ? its time for turki to discard the old guards and get the new breed fighting !!!

[@VicArndale]

Betaing 🤦‍♂️ Nothing beta there Out alpha'ed and dethroned GK

[@mannyortega3983]

What did the AI score it

[@neilangus1363]

Well said that man

[@michaelblack7726]

He just outwork fury, I love fury and hate usyk the war dodger but usyk won and won well

[@eddnagoode890]

Research is required for your ignorant response.. In fact you sir have won the silliest comment of the day award🙄

[@dartsmad1000]

Same Coldwell who thought Chisora beat Usyk

[@boxinggreatness]

Around 15mins in Coldwell nails it. Fury won 2 and half minutes of a round and the Usyk stole it in the last seconds which shouldn't be enough to win the round.

[@johnbrown724]

I agree that the judges need to be held accountable for their decisions 👍

[@groovecollection1987]

Spot on

[@MDCCU]

My opinion was a good close fight I had it a draw or maybe a point for fury but couldn't deny usyk could have won but was a bit wide

[@eddnagoode890]

Read the record book.. Simples

[@peteroberts3232]

They should just keep fighting each other , nobody else can come close to either Rematch every 6 months

[@freddiefreeman4119]

It was a clear victory, not a betaing but a clear victory

[@Yeslad1Rocket]

If you know...dave knows

[@joeyy9092]

🛁

[@leemorgan2060]

Shouldn't fury face Danny boy for the best in Britain honours ?

[@LancashireLad1975]

Longtime massive fury fan you'll find but usyk won by two.

[@peterhatt3850]

Well I would say usyk won if it was down to twitching or disco dancing a lot of his shots missed or blocked by fury I wouldn't say usyk convincingly won more of a draw or win for fury besides fury having a disadvantage of carrying more weight over the 12 rounds at that pace and if usyk is a middleweight what was Mike tyson who was a smaller man than usyk and who convincingly demolished bigger men than him the judges must of been in the pub before they came round to judge the fight or corrupt you could give fury the win as much as you could give usyk the and at best a draw no wonder they say there's corruption in boxing

[@StevenCavanagh-od8lq]

If you can win rounds hittin the gloves and fresh air then yeah lyson won 🤣but if you win rounds by hittin the target repeatedly then Usyk won the fight , the bias towards foney is unbelievable and it's about time his loyal fans woke up n smell the coffee ffs , foney lost both fights so deal with it and enjoy crimbo , happy new year 🥳AND STILL 😂😂

[@birggsyaimsey8064]

Competitive fight but like the 1st fight usyk won it clearly was applying the pressure constantly and out punched and outlanded fury in 11 of the rounds as the stats confirm all while 6 inches shorter and 4 stone lighter and almost 38 years old truly an all time great in any era

[@marc_anton]

I had 115-113 Usyk.

[@peteroberts3232]

Fair enough, the other way around or a draw would also be acceptable for me Two close fights I get all the hate for Fury, but there’s nobody else out there to compete with Usyk If his is the end for Fury then I think it’s a sad day for boxing

[@adriansmith1410]

What reason would there be for AJ fury fight now for me it's simple none✌️🐸

[@CS-pl8fc]

I'd watch it. By your logic, what reason is there to watch Chisora, or Joe Parker, or Andy Ruiz? Not every fight needs to be a title fight. The Chisora vs Whyte fights were two of the best heavyweight fights in recent years.

[@jamesheath7601]

Betaing

[@jh6273]

glad you agree it wasnt a beating- very evenly matched

[@bucks963]

Don't like how Usk fights only 30 seconds of the end of the round that's all he does

[@dilochetty9332]

Nonsense.. usyk landed more than fury.. fury didn't do anything in 9 rounds.. cope harder.. u wil get over it in a few months..

[@wowisowns]

Other fighters skill issue

[@stephenwooding8704]

Nonsense he was jabbing body forcing pace again more fury was fighting most round in 30 seconds bursts

[@marks9948]

this is such crap

[@bronxboxing3384]

hahahqh😂😂😂😂😂

[@relicreturns]

Boring fight, no atmosphere

[@dilochetty9332]

Sad for u. Som of us enjoyed it

[@Tonyfitness-vi1go]

Disagree and good for boxing skill

[@stevencooper5062]

Some people clearly don’t know what boxing is all about😂

[@relicreturns]

Technically great - but would love to see Usyk tested now - 25 quid - no way

[@relicreturns]

@stevencooper5062 what's it all about big man. Educate us.

[@andybishop5490]

Neither fighter was a clear clear winner in my opinion. Well close but the challenger needs to do more to regain the champs title and Fury didn’t.

[@jasonmendelli6023]

If y'all wanna sell your souls to the highest bidder then that's your choice. I know what I saw last night and it was a robbery of Hamilton/F1 proportions. See you later boxing

[@AJRobbo99]

boxing isn’t for you. fury threw more and landed less. It was arguably 5-5 going into the 11th. Usyk won the final 2 rounds.

[@billdoor3140]

Mate you've never been in a boxing club in your life. Usyk landed more in 10/12 rounds. Fury was made to miss more every round. What do you judge on costume and ring walk? 😂

[@PAB86]

Can't win a fight hugging in the championship rounds Fury has himself to blaim.

[@fitprotunes]

You're either a Fury fan that desperdately wanted Fury to win or you don't understand how fights are scored.

[@Icemanr85]

I scored each round. Ive fought at heavyweight. Watched boxing my whole life. I scored fury up 2 rounds

[@forkcgg9441]

Bored within seconds !!!