Igor Stravinsky - Septet [With score]

[@culwin]

This guy was a master on the Needles Piano

[@howdoipickaname9815]

my favorite was his "care's melody"

[@alexxperepolov6447]

Yes, but for fairness' sake it should be told that syncopation on pizzicato in basses is slightly delayed

[@stoplight2554]

For the OP and others, Petscop is a horror-ish webseries and it's most recent installment referenced this song.

[@plekkchand]

It's not a "song", for God's sake...

[@ClancyXanecrest]

@plekchand Maybe tone down the elitism a smidgen

[@definitelynotethan7959]

@@ClancyXanecrest LOL

[@mackenziecleland9664]

@@ClancyXanecrest It isn't elitist to insist on proper terminology.

[@ClancyXanecrest]

@@mackenziecleland9664 Nice of them to suggest the proper phrasing. Oh wait, they didn't.

[@resteds6348]

Came here for Petscop, stayed for the good music.

[@cyclcrclicly9840]

oh hey the guy is alive cool

[@jonasdanielseneskeland3001]

What is petscop?

[@ncrt.e.d.d9072]

Same

[@crusty_croissant]

@@jonasdanielseneskeland3001 it's a kind of creepypasta in the form of a let's play (hope my English isn't bad)

[@definitelyahumanperson]

@@jonasdanielseneskeland3001 a rabbit hole u dont wanna get into

[@davinou26]

I came here with Petscop but what I found here is wow. Stravinsky's music is so interesting. The second movement is mélodic, dark and complex at the same time. I've never heard something like that. What a masterpiece!

[@matraquematrice4754]

Same XD

[@sweetjohnson5076]

Same shit lol

[@Mrbagel-ui4cc]

@@matraquematrice4754 ye

[@johnryskamp2943]

Have your hearing checked. Your mind, too.

[@TheTaiylorWallace]

To everyone getting elitist versus the Petscop folks: You should be glad they're here. A game introduced people to a piece of classical music. I can guarantee at least a handful of people will take this as a jumping-off point into a KZbin dive of classical music, and it may lead to some people choosing their favorite pieces by different composers. And even if they don't dive into compositions and beautiful music, they know more about at least one and may call back to it and remember it in the future. Always be glad that someone is looking at something you like, even if they lack the experience and knowledge to appreciate it as deeply. It is important to share what we ourselves feel is important, and it is so very important to share the arts and music in a day and age when schools are shutting down arts programs and adults are coming into the world with no real culture, especially in America. It pains me in my very soul when I meet people who don't care about music or art or any form of expression and entertainment other than television or viral videos. I met someone the other day who didn't even know Tchaikovsky and the Nutcracker Ballet existed, like had genuinely never heard a whole piece or known what it was from. So please, welcome others, be accepting of other peoples' interests even if they don't interest you. This kind of 'no gamer nerds allowed' elitism is exactly what makes fanbases toxic and causes the vocal minority to do and say awful things to random people. It shouldn't be 'us vs. them.' It should be 'oh, they want to see what we like? Cool, they get to be part of us for a while, and we'll teach them about what we love!'

[@Very-Uncorrect]

TLDR

[@TheTaiylorWallace]

@@Very-Uncorrect You want a Tl;Dr? Here you go: you're being a dick, and elitism helps no one.

[@GlowZoe]

Taiylor Wallace game? It's not a game? It's a web series

[@GlowZoe]

@Gregor Kerr a game that does not exist therefore its still just a webseries

[@Dragynn999]

Amazing how the classic music fans and petscopfans clash with each other. IMO the classic music lovers here should be happy that a few might discover the beauty of classic music because someone decided to make it a part of their narative. Children behave and everything will work out just fine.

[@user-xh6eg1ts1t]

Dragynn999 I agree

[@kylej.whitehead-music309]

You can be simultaneously happy that new people are listening to this and annoyed that they all feel the need to announce "I'm here from [stupid TV\Netflix thing]! Anyone else?" It's annoying. I'm sure half of them just skip to the section that appears in the show anyway. I'm also not thrilled that this music will now always be associated with some TV show. It takes away from Stravinsky's original intentions. He didn't write this piece to be intertwined with popcorn fodder. Obviously it's nice that people are discovering good music, but that doesn't mean the comments aren't annoying.

[@AzykSteam]

I dont see Blonde Redhead complaining tho

[@AzykSteam]

Just cause your butthurt doesnt mean you have to call the series a trash netflix series (not even in netflix lol)

[@noelleholiday61]

@@kylej.whitehead-music309 my guy. Its not a trash tv or netflix thing. It's an actually-pretty-neato youtube thing

[@codascheuer8426]

I’m a petscop fan and a classical music fan. People need to realize those two things aren’t mutually exclusive.

[@NoeticSystem]

I've never even heard of Petscop before. I used to listen to Stravinsky's Septet while playing Minecraft, lol.

[@KiwiTrek]

For those who came for Petscop, the 2nd movement is played in the Quitter's room, if you didn't notice.

[@cyclcrclicly9840]

woaH that is some SHARP hearing you got there nice and nice

[@jacobthesomething]

i dont know what a movement is as i am retarded can someone explain

[@SupaBlue64]

A movement is a section of a song that typically separates itself from other parts of the song. A mini song if you will. This song has three and is separated by a very long rest (AKA a pause) indicated by the conductor in performance. However, if movements are used in modern day music (Which they rarely are.) they're typically strung together without a rest in between and rely completely on a change in tone and lyrics. The best example of this a probably Green Day's song: Jesus of Suburbia. There are five movements in that song. And that's like 3000x more information than you need to know. XD

[@adamant_will]

A lot of classical music is split up into separate sections called "movements." Movements in a piece often differ from each other in style, speed, or even key but can share themes and passages. If you don't know that a piece has movements, it will sound like the musicians are playing lots of small songs because they most often come to a full stop between movements.

[@jacobthesomething]

William Blevins thanks

[@adamant_will]

If you're here from Petscop, the second movement starts at 2:52

[@katebahr1480]

William Blevins thanks! :)

[@badsideoftherandomness320]

Hey do you think this is what Paul playing in Petscop 11 yet it was stated in 12?

[@duhskuh]

Bad Side of the Randomness it was played in the quitters roomin petscop 7

[@Sanjidub]

What? petscop? who's here from petscop? not me, that's for sure, you guys, and your petsco... it's 2:52? right?

[@bk2active]

thanks

[@autumn7719]

never in my life would i see arg horror fans and classical music enjoyers fighting it out in a comment section but yet, here we are!

[@looney1023]

That last chord is crazy! What an interesting piece. The first movement is stunning

[@person26dx]

as a classical music nerd who also really loves and treasures petscop, when this piece was mentioned in the latter i had this really joyful moment of "hey a thing i like referenced another thing i like!" especially since afaik it isn't particularly well known to people who aren't also classical nerds. i've always wondered what the intent was in referencing this particular work, and how petscop's creator came across it in the first place.

[@codascheuer8426]

In one of game theory’s videos on petscop he talks about the significance of the septet and how it fits in with petscop’s story. To give a simplified version, it has to do with the fact that the 2nd movement is tied to the rebirthing process, which makes sense considering that the first movement of this piece is in Stravinsky’s neoclassical style, and the 3rd movement being in his serialist style, with the 2nd movement being the transition between the two (basically Stravinsky “rebirthing” himself as a composer). And the fact that it’s a passacaglia and uses 12-tone serialism also ties into the story. It was incredibly well chosen piece

[@gerardbegni2806]

This was a first step of Stravinsky out of neoclassicism.

[@Sacrogus]

Gérard Begni but neoclassic yet...

[@EdoardoFittipaldi]

After writing so much ugly neoclassical music, some light, something truly musical again! A new beginning!!!

[@gerardbegni2806]

@@Sacrogus Yes basically the harmony remains eocalssic as well as some wriing techniques but it is amazing to see how the various cells are distributed and the relationship between them. I do not think that, at that time, Stravisky knew the music of Webern, or in e very superficial way. But there is here something like a fertile soil waiting for hte seeds. So, when Robertcraft will initiate him to Webern's writing technique (mainly through op. 22), il will be rasy and quite natural for Stravinsky to adopt this writing technique while remaining Stravinsky - and I dare to write: retrieveing soms roots of Stravinsky.

[@DavidA-ps1qr]

@@gerardbegni2806 This is pushing neoclassicism to the limit surely. It never moves from it, merely pushes the boundaries. That's what makes it such an intriguing composition.

[@johnryskamp2943]

But he never got out of the swamp. Les noces is the last interesting work he wrote. Fool.

[@GianNzrneMCmlgn]

I can see many smiley-faces with the notes.

[@felipe_sth]

I love how intricate this sounds. It really does an impression that the composer tried to break up with his previous installment and went for something new, against of what he believed.

[@knic__8799]

on the needles

[@makotoyukikinnie]

I played it wrong

[@howdoipickaname9815]

Do

[@howdoipickaname9815]

It

[@howdoipickaname9815]

Right

[@howdoipickaname9815]

Next

[@Shiropluff]

Lovely

[@cyclcrclicly9840]

Lovely

[@howdoipickaname9815]

She

[@howdoipickaname9815]

Tripped

[@howdoipickaname9815]

And

[@howdoipickaname9815]

Fell

[@TeddyLeitner]

Holy crud this is actually calming

[@gusk775]

Reminds me of haunted house music or the music disc “mellohi”

[@paulamrod537]

Soon hereafter Stravinsky changed to a completely different style. Agon for example. This piece still has resemblance to his music since 1917 which represented an incredible amount of wonderful pieces.

[@badatgaming9905]

IIRC this piece was specifically intended as a sort of direct auditory transition between his earlier music and a more "modern" style

[@Tfrne]

The Second Viennese School: As the inventors of the 12-tone method, we clearly have the best understanding of its abilities and limitations, and can make the most creative use of its resources. Igor Stravinsky: Hold my beer.

[@joshuaadler8754]

*Scotch

[@Very-Uncorrect]

Perfect Everything, This (is) So Clean, Openly Popular

[@AzykSteam]

Paul Enters The Song Choosen Out Precisely

[@Yume_R4515]

Please Eliminate The Scared Cruel Odd Play game

[@alekosthecrow]

Wow he lived a long life. You didn't see many people live that long back then.

[@thedaychr]

Stravinskys style its so developed at this point

[@BrigadoonZyphoon]

Stravinsky was an absolute genius.

[@DavidA-ps1qr]

This is a complex septet that only Stravinsky could have written. But it proves that he was equally comfortable writing for a small ensemble as he was writing for a full orchestra (i.e.the Rite of Spring).

[@bookworm_of_heaven]

This is really a breathtaking piece

[@Ohokok_channeledition]

That first bit was just so jolly and lovely

[@paulamrod537]

An absolute fabulous piece shortly before his final stage with Agon etc.

[@janewarrington9681]

Stravinsky was/is/will be for all time.

[@Coldd333]

2nd movement starts at 2:50 ish

[@oxychim]

God this sounds great

[@oscargallegocovarrubias7949]

Wonderful work! Thanks!

[@reverendbryan]

"At night the (human totem) pole would talk to itself, and the chatter wasn't too good." - Don Van Vliet. *note to self; ignore comments* Thank you for posting this. The more Stravinsky in my life, the better!

[@MuseDuCafe]

Tonal - Serial, Neoclassical Stravinsky. Hey, if you think it is dry, its still wonderful -- masterly -- music.

[@ChalumeauCauchemarLOL]

What is "Petscop"? Lol 😅😂 Anyways, this work is absolutely amazing, great introduction to Stravinsky's later works! ❤🎹

[@badatgaming9905]

It's a web series that features the second movement and references the piece

[@JoshSaysStuff]

Alright, so I understand that bringing up Petscop here is controversial, but I just want to say that I’m SO glad I was introduced to this septet through it. Not only is it beautiful and complex; the second movement also emphasizes the way it was referenced in the series. When played on the needles piano, the melody was reduced to a monophonic interpretation of the primary motif. Even in its reductive form, the concept of “you’re never going home” shines through, as every few bars hints at a resolution, but that resolution is withheld from the listener. But in the actual piece? That theme is only amplified. Each instrument plays a few notes of the motif at a time, and the accompanying instrumentation is equally unresolved. There were so many moments when I felt like the interwoven melodic and harmonic lines were ABOUT to resolve to a “home chord”, but they didn’t. There is no key center. There is no home to return to. So sure, you can be mad at me for being exposed to this piece by an online unfiction series. You have every right to feel that way. But personally? I’m just happy I was exposed to something so beautiful and haunting.

[@AlexiaBobadilla]

2:53 this is the part of quitters room

[@AlexiaBobadilla]

now i think that is a little bit creepy

[@1undeadmoth]

Wow the comments here got flooded fast.

[@NOEYEDGURL]

im glad i am not the only one coming from petscop

[@Tracks777]

I enjoyed the video! Keep it up!

[@Atlas-uy9fs]

The only person who came to this video to actually appreciate the song

[@bobygreen8429]

Some parts of the first and third acts actually scare me, just the chaos of so many instruments at once. Also, some parts sound like it's being played in reverse even though I know it's forwards, it honestly reminds me of the Beatles' Revolution 9.

[@DeflatingAtheism]

Parts being played in reverse is called retrograde motion. 😀

[@subplantant]

Played this at college. That piano part fucked me up

[@xHannaHx33]

Care A too far... u went too far O.O

[@gerardbegni2806]

ONe of the works that mark the assimilation of serialism by Stravinski.

[@hope6840]

Disagree and it is Stravinsky

[@UtsyoChakraborty]

Ah yes!

[@paxwallacejazz]

Sparkling elegant contrapuntal neoclassic Igor. Checkout the Octet.

[@figloalds]

Came for petscop. Stayed for ... Wow this is actually quite very beautiful. Like Paul would have said: "uh... yeah... ok."

[@marekvodicka]

Stravinsky grooves hard

[@truBador2]

Divine Madness.

[@Xzavier1_]

I came here from petscop and i was interested to listen this song and its good i like it

[@user-xh6eg1ts1t]

Evy TheUndying 👍

[@ellayea3440]

When instead of proceeding, you go down the stairs and take a right and become a shadow monster man

[@user-xh6eg1ts1t]

The third movement sounds like it should be the soundtrack of Eugène Ionesco’s plays

[@danielefaraotti8676]

ah good ! very

[@dagsmokeds844]

Huh, i thought that the classical music was all boring, but i actually like this. Thanks Petscop

[@antonb.152]

This is not classical music actually, this is 12 tone serialism which is under a different category

[@codascheuer8426]

@@antonb.152 No, this is part of contemporary classical music. Stravinsky was a classical composer

[@milest3560]

OK Pall Do it right next time

[@Very-Uncorrect]

Screw you.

[@editedfalafel2434]

I don't like your profile picture so screw you

[@howdoipickaname9815]

Sad

[@cyclcrclicly9840]

when i last checked, this had 9 comments now it has 24 petscop what have you done

[@bad3nergytroll]

Well.. it got people to listen to some good shit..

[@maxcaulfield8211]

226

[@DemonixTB]

hi caaclc

[@torikenyon]

Now it has 300

[@hope6840]

333

[@trashcankyle]

I found this piece through Petscop but Mvmt 2 is so interesting I'm gonna have to find out more about twelve-tone serialism.

[@Mudpi3]

I came here from petscop as well. But I also am a music person. Twelve tone serialism is basically taking a chromatic scale and not using any intervals or scales to create the music. In my opinion it's music that reverses the way we generally think of it. Basically everything but the actual pitch matters lol.

[@radimleher5428]

Sounds like something what Bach would wrote if he was living at the 20's

[@arthurchallat8530]

I dedicate this song to everyone who knows.

[@ItIsMeTime123]

mii channel theme but it's written by stravinsky

[@tomhsia4354]

Ah, Vladimir Ashkenazy, one of my favorite pianists, especially for Chopin's music.

[@Da_maul]

Hello to everyone else who feels the need to listen to a music piece when its referenced to in any medium.

[@Mudpi3]

Absolutely. Even from an extended creepypasta on the internet lol.

[@Da_maul]

@@Mudpi3 I'm pretty sure I saw it referenced in a Visual Novel but yeh

[@choyikugatsu1228]

this is indeed the weirdest piece of classical music I've ever heard but it actually sounds pretty good and has a special taste in it glad I was brought here by petscop

[@yetanothermetaname1118]

Do trills count as repetitions before the whole series has been stated? 🤔

[@DavidA-ps1qr]

An extraordinary example of neo-classicism.

[@attangfangirl]

ughhhh I was hoping the Petscop fanbase wouldn't be "that" fanbase who has to announce their arrival.

[@jacobthesomething]

make this top comment

[@carlyk4375]

no fun allowed

[@attangfangirl]

If you think annoying the shit out of people is fun then you need to stop existing

[@megagustman]

*+ATTangFangirl* And if you think that simply because people leave a "I come from X" comment on a nearly unrelated video they should die then you are the one with the problem not them.

[@attangfangirl]

megagutsman Yeah it’s pretty obvious I have a problem with obnoxious-ness, that was the intention of my comment

[@Tfrne]

I'm here because I love Stravinsky, I have no fucking clue what Petscop is.

[@badatgaming9905]

It's a horror webseries about a guy finding a "game" called petscop

[@averysax6429]

The new music Tonal Scale is as thus: 12 7 5 2 3 : 1 4 5 9 14 Not 12 with 7 & 5 BUT 14 with 9 & 5 [2^(1/14)] These are the Tonal Scales growing from f (by cycles of fifths): All Scales build from the first mode: equivalent to Lydian f White keys are = & Black keys are | 12 with 7 & 5 [2^(1/12)] =|=|=|==|=|= {1,8,3,10,5,12,7,2,9,4,11,6} 1thru7are= 8thru12are| 7 with 5 & 2 [2^(1/7)] ===|==| {1,3,5,7,2,4,6} 1thru5are= 6&7are| 5 with 2 & 3 [2^(1/5)] =||=| {1,3,5,2,4} 1&2are= 3thru5are| Now evolving up the other end 5 with 4 & 1 [2^(1/5)] ==|== {1,3,5,2,4} 1thru4are= 5is| 9 with 5 & 4 [2^(1/9)] =|=|=|==| {1,8,3,7,5,9,2,4,6} 1thru5are= 6thru9are| 14 with 9 & 5 [2^(1/14)] =|=|===|=|===| {1,12,3,14,5,7,9,11,2,13,4,6,8,10} 1thru9are= 10thru14are| Joseph Yasser is the actual originator of the realization, that scales develop by cycles of fifths. www.seraph.it/blog_files/623ba37cafa0d91db51fa87296693fff-175.html www.academia.edu/4163545/A_Theory_of_Evolving_Tonality_by_Joseph_Yasser www.musanim.com/Yasser/ The chromatic scale we use today is divided by 2^(1/12) twelfth root of two Instead of moving to the next higher: the 19 tone scale 2^(1/19) nineteenth root of two I decided to go all the way down and back up the other end: So 12 - 7 = 5 & 7 - 5 = 2 & 5 - 2 = 3 Now we enter to the other side: 2 - 3 = -1 & 3 - -1 = 4 & -1 - 4 = -5 & 4 - -5 = 9 & -5 - 9 = -14 ignoring the negatives we have 1 4 5 9 14 Just follow the cycles how each scale is weaved together, as shown above. Each scale has its own division within the frequency doubling, therefore the 14 tones scale is 2^(1/14) fourteenth root of two

[@renandes.santana3487]

for those who knows music and stravinsky (along with petscop, or not): is there a reason to say the second movement is related in any sense to the ideas of birth, being born, or, better yet, being reborn as someone else?

[@douwemusic]

Renan de S. Santana Stravinsky was a tonal composer until Schoenberg died, who was kind of the "founder" of serialism which is atonal by it's nature. This was Stravinsky's first attempt at serialism, which can be seen as "being reborn". Especially since he seemed to have opposed atonal music for a while.

[@AzykSteam]

Its actually from a note the character finds in a room, it says “Do you remember being born?” The little detail is that this song was playing in the background, so now we all just flooded in to hear this beautiful piece again I dont personally know what it has to do with rebirthing, but i wanted to comment this Just more food for thought

[@sirSamBurgers]

Well it depends. The actual reason, I don't really know, but the reason we petscop fans associate it with re-birth is because this peice is played many times through out the game, specifically the second movement. Petscop is the story of a killer, a family, and a reincarnation, which is why petscop fans see it as related to be reborn. Though I'm sure that the reason the second movement was included was because it is actually associated with rebirth, which is what happened to a character in Petscop, Tiara, who got reborn as her killers child, "Care".

[@badatgaming9905]

Bit late but as the first reply said this song was stravinsky's first step into a new style of composing. The 2nd movement in particular is a blend between his earlier and newer style. A "rebirth" of his style so to speak.

[@Bugleur]

How the bassoon can play a low A ? (2nd Movement...)

[@Searonix]

petscop kid very smart

[@miljanaantic8712]

Does someone know where I can get a free score for this piece?

[@NovaMenno]

This all feels so extremely tonal to me, and that raises the question, what defines tonal music, what exactly sounds dissonant. Music theory can't accurately define it, because music is an extremely relative art

[@klickonthat5244]

Did y'all know that this song was used in the Streets of Rage 3 bad ending? It starts at around 0:36.

[@Twentythousandlps]

For most of the 50's IStrav wrote music incorporating elements of both neoclassic and serial thought, as here.

[@Abra391]

1:30 suddenly we're in a Hitchcock movie

[@arlekino0792]

And how long I started hearing order in chaos? Why there order in chaos?

[@stueystuey1962]

Webern twice then this. Not bad. 👍🙏

[@Mobius14]

streets of rage 3 bad ending at 4:16?

[@avgogd]

damn this is some freaky stuff 👅👅

[@pierreemad2220]

This piece sounds more impressionist than avant-garde minus the arpeggio abuse and an intended image

[@silveremperor1287]

Has anyone figured out if there is a connection between this and Petscop yet?

[@jessem.3808]

King Of Spades Duh...The notes??? Haha

[@fromthecherryvine]

The second movement is played in the Quitter's room

[@silveremperor1287]

WhyAmIEvanHeere? I gathered. But what's the connection between the Quitter's Room and Stravinsky. Should be a reason why it's played in there.

[@fromthecherryvine]

King Of Spades I don't know if this helps, but I find the description of this video... Very interesting.

[@silveremperor1287]

WhyAmIEvanHeere? I agree, but there's no smoking gun yet.

[@klauslay2091]

Fließbandarbeiter. Ameisenstraße.

[@simon5927]

How can you play this alone with a piano ?

[@winrar42]

You could either only play the piano part. You could also play the Clarinet part for the melody and pick maybe the basson or play both piano part with the left hand.

[@howdoipickaname9815]

or you could play it on the needles piano

[@j9rq560]

This was on Petscop??

[@lifesoldier]

only a few bars from the second movement

[@torikenyon]

_PLAY NEEDLES PIANO NOW_

[@Alzter0]

@BSC0TCH She fell and tripped

[@brharley0546]

what is petscop? is that a game?

[@sodacushion2815]

It's a horror story in the form of a lets play youtube video of a fictional game

[@Yume_R4515]

A true “LIFE” game

[@skylarlimex]

stravinsky always ending on a crunchy chord haha

[@ChalumeauCauchemarLOL]

Thats so trueeee! 😂

[@kanghyunkim3764]

혹시 이 곡이 한국에서 연주된적이 있나요??

[@epsilon347]

petscop is coming

[@cyclcrclicly9840]

s'mae

[@christophermacintyre5890]

Tin soldiers and Petscop's coming...

[@FredrikFazBjorn]

It's here

[@bookworm_of_heaven]

Petscop: Here I Come

[@UoirLocer]

@@bookworm_of_heaven what No

[@sarahtonin.mp4]

Look I came from petscop too but I wanted to know what a passacaglia sounded like and I play clarinet so I was interested in the clarinet part. Or at least I think it's clarinet. Hopefully, I wanna try and play the clarinet part of this piece.

[@KyleAnimates]

So was the creator of petscop like "yeah this dude good" or was he fascinated by Stravinsky's atonal shit and the fact it sounds creepy. (What was essentially the backstory to the use of Stravinsky?)

[@sodacushion2815]

Watch game theory

[@joshuasilva5429]

I hear a "Dumbarton Oaks" vibe in the first movement, without the stable tonality.

[@sakihuzi1301]

Which part was played by pall?

[@howdoipickaname9815]

He didn't play this, it was in the start of Petscop 7

[@sweetjohnson5076]

PETSCOP !

[@Shadic358]

Petscop, anyone?

[@lucchi018]

Shadic358 I believe that for a long time People Will be coming here for petscop...

[@Phatologico]

like. a LOT of people

[@milest3560]

Play Needles Piano Now

[@peatrude4872]

Petscop 7 and 12

[@shadow_leaf7965]

Dont mind me, just here from Petscop

[@bronkingrn]

omg its the petscop song

[@billyblueberry]

hey, have you guys heard of a thing called petscop?

[@martinorozco6759]

Billy Blueberry oviously

[@martinorozco6759]

Who dont