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[@DaxonTV]

Still cracking up about the observers trying to escape from the game at any cost...

[@rahulshah1408]

I heard in my head… exit stage left. Then it was toast.

[@Handler1011]

That was the best worded, most poetic, and truly most heart-clenching complaint form I've ever seen you read on the channel.

[@mihairo83]

Zerg tech op... that says it all 🤣

[@MediocreAverage]

It was so deep and meaningful. Tears flowed from my eyes. Angels wailed. Civilisations rose and fell. Heroes fought and villains died. Truly an epic of the modern age.

[@judicatorhurayth1927]

The feeling of Downfall of many of our axtion truly shows how *_Imba_* this world is

[@MrFlarius]

I think what happened here is that Magus used ChatGPT. But instead of copy/pasting the AI output he accidentally pasted his own Input into the complaint form.

[@hamster_designs]

That's a wild theory xD

[@baetz2]

Pro-tip from an English learner: 'g' is usually silent in the 'gn' combination. Examples: gnome=[noʊm], sign = [saɪn], Gnarl = [nɑrl]

[@Ofasia777]

Editor is on the ball. Also. Zerg tech op.

[@Junebug89]

You know what? I was complaining that the imbalance complaint forms were getting too long, I guess I was asking for this. Good work Magus, I approve.

[@xitaris5981]

It's not like Magus can complain that Gnarl was an amazing opponent. Keep in mind that Gnarl swapped into a macro focus after the contain and then DIDN'T MAX OUT UNTIL ~14:30. For point of reference, in ViBElol's B2GM series that focuses on defensive macro, players are expected to max out at 11 minutes IN BRONZE, in plat the expectation is 8:45. If you want to argue that he was delayed by his proxy hatch, he was finished with it around ~5 minutes and already had queens and 2 hatch, so was poised for his economy to explode, so he should be able to do it by 11-12 minutes as a plat player.

[@veriskemkroya4270]

Stupid Zerg and their damn... *shuffles deck, pulls card* ...tech

[@TheAndrain]

Master Editor. Thank you for that comprehensive explanation on why the initial Protoss "Wall" was not a wall. I for one saw the efforts you made for your explanation and appreciate it!

[@razorbackblood06]

Magus trolled successfully Harstem, and anyone who watched the replay (myself included). Otherwise the only way you play like this and get 2700 MMR is you get lucky with a few placement matches. Gnarl seems somewhat competent since he did a few transfuses, expanded everywhere and kept minerals low.

[@henningbreede6428]

2700 mmr is extremely low, it's hard to be placed lower than that. Which is exactly why Harstem called it the bottom of the barrel.

[@razorbackblood06]

@@henningbreede6428 maybe for you and progamers in general. SC2 is very challenging for the average/casual gamer. For you to make that comment is very short-sighted. The way this terran played, it looks like he should be in mid to high bronze, maybe silver 3. If he is actually a platinum player, he was sand bagging for the troll attempt.

[@zaksmith1035]

Agadmater: And it is as of 1 minute 25 seconds that we have a completely new build.

[@mEtil5656]

Hey harstem, i have an (old) game of me and my dad getting absolutely smoked by some smurfs only building marines. Do you also accept 2v2 imba forms? Would love it!

[@hamster_designs]

Send it in. I doubt that he will pick it as he is very focused on the 1v1 aspect of the game, but maybe I can use it for smth different :p

[@Pho7on]

Observers be like: To the mesosphere! Finally we can die :)

[@jaeger8652]

These observers are looking for a spore to fly into... killed me haha

[@ShibuyaRollCall]

Clearly the spawning pool is OP, it allows for the production of Queens, lings, spines, spores and lair. No other tech structure provides so much for so little. Only 200 minerals for all that, sign me up!

[@Tuminure]

11:38 mass corruptor is pretty good at destroying nexus. Especially if it is defended by disruptors and immortals. I'm not saying thats a good counter. I'm just saying its not that bad.

[@vulkandrache1928]

At times the Protoss had 200 APM while doing nothing.

[@OpticalLimit]

This was a funny video, but frankly your reference to Duolingo was that part that made me really laugh out loud.

[@annoyed_kitsune]

Instead of mocking Magus, saying that he plays garbage and saying that he sucks, I'll be more sympathetic. I've seen a lot of people of this mmr and I know that openings at this level from protoss players are very random and gate-forge often isnt reaction to anything, it just is inefficient thing, that gives an illusion of safety, they often dont scout. He kinda looks like a new player to me who maybe knows how to play macro, but at this given level, whatever possible early aggression is enough to make people crumble and this is normal thing. 2.7k protosses are very prone to the 12 pool with mediocre execution, trust me, I did this to them multiple times. So what I mean is that, if you're having trouble defending against cheese you will look inevitably worse, than usually, Magus maybe could've played it a lot better than we've seen, if there was no cheese. Also Harstem, good job on roasting every plat3 player, which is 2.7-2.8k. This league is literally the middle.

[@mothrahlurker788]

It's a league many people reach within two weeks of playing the game, if they are serious. If they are viewers of Harstem one should judge them as being invested at least somewhat into the game instead of just dabbling around. You can look at other IODIS submissions or mmr guessing formats or anything with viewers and see that this is about as low mmr as it goes for replays many people have seen for a long time.

[@insideurgirl]

lol i sent something very similar but as me being Terran vs Zerg and how their tech is OP. I hope Harstem reviews my submission.

[@ddenozor]

Magus,as a protoss player, is learning the Terran language. And the first expression to know is 'zerg tech op'

[@alexanderkozhevnikov9087]

Honestly this is fairly advanced Terran player speech, since there's a word between "[race]" and "op". Even fluent Terran conversations often don't get that articulate.

[@omuploii]

​@@alexanderkozhevnikov9087 Yes, if they are between terran players of the protoss race, it's always about how to leave their own mother's incel basement.

[@impishlyit9780]

@@omuploii That sentence was almost as understandable as the complaint form, good job!

[@mikeballew3207]

I never realized how powerful observers could be in groups of 3 or 4

[@WindsorMason]

It lets maybe one of them to survive sitting atop a spore before the rest of the army kills the spore. Very OP strategy.

[@jarrakul]

Just imagine, if a lurker burrows, and then burrows again, Magus will still see it.

[@inkedseahear]

Imagine if they get a sight boost if more observors are together

[@eclipseeffigy]

Many submissions contain a wildly inaccurate story, but I did not expect the events of this 3-word form to not even happen in the game at all. 😂

[@nathangamble125]

Well, at least there was a zerg.

[@godhand2018]

@@nathangamble125 There was also tech. That makes it 66% correct!

[@CatacombD]

I genuinely wonder if magus somehow thought that the lurkers were the only reason why he lost. Like, he's so unaware that he thought he was even with his opponent, but when he saw 3 lurkers in the final fight, he assumed that they were the only reason why his army lost.

[@totaldramagamer5521]

@@godhand2018 Damn, that takes me back to when I got those 3 question quizzes in English class. I hated those.

[@ZerglingLover]

@@CatacombD judging by how frequently that happens in salt mines and IODIS i don’t doubt it.

[@DanielRodriguez-vf2sk]

truly one of the iiodis forms of all time

[@Willdroyd]

it imba or do i suck

@@Willdroyd do iiiiiodis next

[@iainp84]

If not THE iodis form of all time

[@Willdroyd]

@ Is it internally impossibly imbalanced or do i suck Or: Is it indefensable, imbalanced and idiotic or do i suck

[@brimbrim5389]

Undeniably so.

[@ehk5948]

Honestly at his level not hitting your own units with the disrupter is pretty nice

[@Alex-pq2fv]

Magus had like 50/50 connections I think? Seems pretty alright to me. Combined with not (or at least rarely) hitting himself, this is some high level gameplay

[@ieaturanium574]

@@Alex-pq2fv compared to the rest of the humans, gold leaguers are experts at starcraft. thats true

[@adammuela1765]

Thats actually what Harstem said about the last Protoss submittion who also failed to kill any of his own units; at least it wasnt better to never have activated the spell at all. Edit- I am paraphrasing.

[@hanneswiggenhorn2023]

​@@Alex-pq2fvwith the last one maybe, but like the first 3 hit pretty much nothing and that against an enemy that isn't even dodging in any way, he pretty much shot them through the entire army without hitting

[@threatter1676]

Halfway through Harstem's reading of the balance complaint form I was like: Get to the point already!

[@thaneoffife6904]

With that essay of a form you'd think he was a terran player in disguise.

[@lukeaberdene-wallwork-zy7wm]

I was so exited that this was actually gonna be an imba game cos of the title

[@firestarter000001]

Same :).i tought "this is it, we are gonna see something that Harstem deems imba"

[@TheVoidIsCold]

Yeah, also thought that

[@mihairo83]

Me three.... I also feel so ashamed right now that after thousands of games I'm a 2.8k MMR plat2 toss on the European server 😅🙃🤦I really don't understand how can I have the same MMR as Magus, being an 130-150 APM lategame toss, active on the map, constantly scouting, building my first pylon in PvT at 10 sec, my first gate at 30 sec, or at 35 sec in PvP and 39 sec in PvZ, having solid build-orders, I do suck a little at micro, so I do appreciate the Disruptor hits... but still...

[@firestarter000001]

@@mihairo83 lol true, i didnt notice his mmr, 2800 is crazy. Im a a ~3200mmr dia 3 on Eu. And i really think my games are way way better, they make sense (at least in broad strokes, the details may vary:):)). This was surreal, no idea how he reached his mmr.

[@Wwillswords]

​@@firestarter000001sky toss if not caught early is frustrating to fight

[@AntiDoctor-cx2jd]

Based on the title, I thought he was going to end the series, and I had a mini panic attack.

[@ZerglingLover]

i thought it’d be a meme video where he just reads a complaint forum for twenty minutes

[@balazsfejes8817]

zerg tech OP is just like omelette du fromage, you can use it on every situations

[@brandonhargis4104]

Ah. Dexter's Lab. Also a man of culture.

[@dfsdsfsdfsadfdsfa223]

Imagine if the opponent made mutas instead of lurkers

[@IAmBael]

"Protoss And Terran Pro Players Hate Him! Zerg Player Destroys Competition With This One Weird Trick!" The rest of the article: zerg tech op

[@TinyCaligula]

Harstem really missed a chance to deep dive into an in depth analysis of the report form. Let's take the time to really analyze what Magus was saying. Firstly, he starts with the word "zerg." He was very much correct, as there was zerg on this map. Complaint form is so far 100% accurate. Next, Magus adds in the word "tech." Now, harstem did cover that the extent of tech used by the zerg was from a spawning pool, so perhaps Magus instead was using the word "tech" as a short version of "techniques." In this case, he might be referring to the spine rush technique that was employed against him in this wonderful replay. So "tech" could be argued to be 50% accurate. Finally, Magus concludes with the word "op." Im pretty sure an easy AI would have done a better job responding to the rush than our friend Magus did. The immortal "micro" was negative micro, and he just kindof sat on a ton of minerals not doing anything. Then he builds a ton of observers for no real reason and loses a bunch of them in amazing fashion. Any "technique" would be OP if you just observe it doing its thing without fighting back against it. "op" gets a 0% accuracy rating. Now we just multiply the accuracy rates together, 100% x 50% x 0% and get a result of 0% accuracy. In conclusion, it isn't IMBA, Magus just sucks.

[@lewisheasman]

(100+50+0)÷3=50. So 50% accurate

[@judicatorhurayth1927]

​@@lewisheasman yet Still suck

[@andrebrodbeck3883]

Maybe we have to find another meaning for "OP"? I mean can we be sure he has the same understanding of the word?

[@zhshsG7]

@@lewisheasman He said he multiplied them, not calculated the mean. Which makes it an even more genius comment.

[@nicolapodgornik6644]

Isn't zerg op tho? And if zerg is op, then isn't zerg's tech op aswell?

[@WhitefoxSpace]

Are we... Witnessing history? Edit: nope 🤣

[@TheGahta]

Welll it IS history... really stoopid history 😂

[@tilmanvogel2387]

Clickbait! >:-O

[@rudzielecgucio8307]

@@tilmanvogel2387 i were hoping to see another marines complaint, that was the one imbalance complaint harmstem has deemed imba

[@tilmanvogel2387]

@@rudzielecgucio8307 Wow, I missed that! Was it last year, you think?

[@DareDevilMB44]

It is really important for all of the observers to be in the same spot. I find that it really brings clarity to the fog of war.

[@alexanderkozhevnikov9087]

I hear if we stack observers perfectly, their vision range stacks too.

[@Armored51]

I'm just having a hard time believing that Magnus looked at his own replay, and said "yep, I could not have done anything better".

[@bullpup1337]

you think he looked at the replay?

[@peterkutz8792]

😂 I was laughing so hard throughout the whole video. The obverserver party was the best

[@adaptabledisease]

This is why I say we need to know the location of the players for the "Noobs in disguise" series.

[@-Raylight]

This imba complain is beautiful. I can feel every words coming from inside me Guess the spines really carried the Zerg's tech. Truly OP

[@brrr5733]

Definitely imba. zerg tech op

[@TannerLindberg]

Zerg tech op

[@nexiee]

Zerg tech op!

[@marks7484]

This is PLAT!

[@Marko_Ilic]

Are we sure this wasn't sent by some rogue A.I.? Or maybe ChatGPT is becoming a giant troll...

[@GundamFlexing]

Hey, ChatGPT, please write a compelling argument on why I lost to Zerg. ChatGPT: "zerg tech op"

[@ghostsmoke11]

Despite zerg tech op, toss still gg'd. nice

[@Magdavian]

nice,. a zerg cannon rush using leap frog tactics,. have not seen that since SC1. I guess he was scared of lurkers to make so many observers.

[@FkBaus]

he is absolutly right!

[@Trapezoidal]

"Eat that Noam Chomsky" was one of the funniest throw-away lines hahaha

[@melvinthegiant5893]

Rubicks cube prison analogy was too good lmaoo

[@xmiszxiszx]

Noam Chomsky isn't much into phonetics/phonology i think, so no worries there. Also, I'm certain he'd appreciate your syntax!

[@lexclouds7562]

We got cleverly clickbaited Hamster was baited too

[@courageousmelon5654]

Imagine if you could just build 3 air units from a starport called void rays and instantly winning the game by killing the base of your opponent, rather than building 3 immortals... super hard. Zerg tech op.

[@dfsdsfsdfsadfdsfa223]

Found the silver player

[@pablovirus]

There were spores and queens that could transfuse

[@courageousmelon5654]

@@pablovirus No there were not. Check 13:36. Base is still completely free to take.

[@totaldramagamer5521]

Meanwhile on the video series where you guess the MMR: "Clearly this is a 3500 player. His Disruptor hits were kind of good."

[@vapidviewer]

It's the observer massing that did it for me

[@psilon69]

I think you missed the whole point: that ability of zerg to build spines, spores and lings with just a spawning pool is OP. Why protoss needs gate and forge, terran needs barracks and engi bay but zerg has everything with just a spawning pool? Yes he lost to spines but *this* is an OP tech and we can clearly see that it is.

[@crystaldazz]

Has Harstem ever given an "approved" verdict on his imba forms?

[@candidate3512]

i agree that zerg is the most imba race in the game. the better the player the stronger zerg is, even serral cant even use the full power of them. But how can you complain abt this game if the reason you survived to 20 mins was because zerg no eco for 5 mins straight 💀💀

[@ragnarok9594]

Idk what the captain is talking about. This is clearly the most OP zerg tech i've ever seen.

[@mihairo83]

We have to evolve. I'm tired ot saying "zerg is imba"... New language: "zerg tech op" 🤣

[@AxelDerAlptraumraech]

I guess the Spawning Pool is OP, in that it gives Lings, Queens, static defense and access to lair. Meanwhile Toss has to build Gate, Core and Force for core units + static d. Just a guess though.

[@AntiDoctor-cx2jd]

spawning pool / gateway. Core/lair. Forge/evo chamber. ?WTF? zerg tech is actually longer. It's more buildings to get to broods than carriers, and carriers are better so protoss gets more advanced in less buildings than zerg can get with all buildings.

[@nosemeocurrenada93]

The spore was a 1000IQ counter to the observer

[@MetalMan1245]

Hamster is a true MVP.

[@hamster_designs]

What about MVH? ;p

[@xitaris5981]

I can't believe Magus doesn't realize how much Gnarl hurt himself by overcommitting to the spine rush/contain. He's still ahead until ~7:22 and if he just kept calm he probably could have kept his advantage while breaking out of the contain. I think 2 oracles would have just broken the Zerg's non-existent economy. But instead he wanted to throw away immortals to spines and zerglings after he had enough to prevent the spines from moving up the ramp.

[@Deto128]

Oracles feel like too much of a gamble, though. If you move out with them and the zerg has a spore or two you're basically super dead because you didn't spend your resources on breaking the contain

[@xitaris5981]

​@@Deto128 Gnarl already built 8 spines, 5 spores, 1 hatch and 2 queens to build a contain. So that's 14 drones and 2,475 minerals, so if you can get them to sacrifice even _more_ drones and minerals for defense then they're going to have a dead economy. Look at 5:48, Magus has almost double the worker count and if they force 2 spores and kill 0 drones, then Magus still killed 12.5% of the economy. But at plat they're definitely going to kill more than 0 drones even if they had spores and no micro on the oracles. But even if he chose to focus on _just_ breaking the siege, he had a lot of options and by the time he did his opponent would have finally caught up to his economy, but he would have the tech advantage so he would have broke even imo.

[@inmundo6927]

@@xitaris5981 if I was Magus I would hv just built 30 speed zealots and fuck him up

[@HellecticMojo]

He didn't really have vision to determine that 2 oracles would be enough. And the zerg demonstrated the presence of spores already. Double oracle is a pretty big gamble for someone that's blind.

[@inmundo6927]

@@HellecticMojo presence of spores along with proxy Hatch, along with a gazillion spines means he cant possibly have money for more than just 1 spore at home, and maybe not even that, judging by the extreme focus on the contain. Also, not making oracles because he has no vision to determine whether to build them or not, is not going to give you vision either.... Gotta take some risks eventually. (plus, if its true he didnt have much at home, then the SOLE PRESENCE of the oracles will force him to build EVEN MORE spores.. and consequentially still hurt his economy even further) Again, he was not blind. 1+1. You cant possibly have 10 spines and 3 spores at min 4 and at the same time have much going at your main base. Just not mathematically possible. You can get information from "logical deductions" as much as with plain vision.

[@messiethehamster957]

He probably gets cannons and makes carriers. That cann get you pretty far.

[@johncouzens5321]

Unfair, gas is his major limit or, the minerals cost for rapid expansion once you escape 11:13

[@mEtil5656]

It wasnt the worst, it was the most one sided. The zerg played really well

[@goodlearnerbadstudent756]

iirc, the marine episode was the most 1 sided of all. but yeah, this was really one sided. it looks like magus probably doesn't even know what unit does what.

[@nick1752]

That joke with Rubik's cube was delicious, thank you.

[@Alloran]

The Captain has searched far and wide to find the lowest common denominator. Little did he know, he would also discover what negative game knowledge looks like. We are all of us at least 200MMR lower against zerg thanks to this replay.

[@martinlisk9913]

Submitted by ChatGTP

[@trixmtll1393]

either have a video called "you suck" or "imba." wise choice

[@Amokhunter]

@Editor: Do not expect too much from a dutch, they are mostly under everyone elses' (sea)level and as we all know, he IS the cheesiest man alive, so it is reasonable to assume that by how much cheese he played, his brain has adapted and become cheese itself. Excellent for making SC2 YT content, but otherwise barely a functioning member of civilized society.

[@hamster_designs]

Ja moin!

[@subject1449]

Hey harstem, fun fact -gn is closer in prononciation -ni than it is to k. It resembles k in the cotext that k is also followed by n

[@brosekbrosek382]

As a low level player, breaking any kind of early contain - spine or bunker rush - feels very difficult. I would have liked to see an explanation of what a correct response would have looked like.

[@mothrahlurker788]

Ok so first off he had a complete freewin on his hands since he opened with a forge. He could have built cannons behind his wall (so that spines can't hit it until the creep goes further) and then build batteries behind. Since the zerg made spores, too few lings and executed the rush too slowly it would have given him a secure 2base setup where he only needs to rebuild the gateway and cybercore. It would have been even clearer if he hadn't opened so poorly and managed to lose 5 probes to a pool first, if you micro that correctly and chrono out an adept you're supposed to not lose any. From the point on that he has2 bases and a 20 worker advantage he can basically just do whatever and kill his opponent because he just has twice as many units. Even after failing so completely and losing his natural. Just making a prism and flying it across the map, then harassing with adepts in the prism would have done enough damage to come back into the game. The zerg didn't have the queens at home to be able to defend a prism, nor the ling count to be able to deal with it. If he then clears the spines at the same time it would be much better. Or even just at the very minimum have a prism to not lose multiple immortals to the lings+spines while trying to clear the contain. He could have taken his natural several minutes earlier with 0 losses and then done counter damage with an immortal drop immediately.

[@Jomi91]

It's pronounced "Phnarlle".

[@theskull4219]

Magnus played like it was a campaign mission

[@sir_duckington1245]

Honestly back in the day when i just started i tought you could spawn in any one of the corners lmao

[@ManDuderGuy]

Back in the day there were some maps where that was the case. You wouldnt always spawn at maximal distance. IIRC

[@RabbitAlgebra]

​@@ManDuderGuy you recall correctly

[@ManDuderGuy]

@@RabbitAlgebra Passed my dementia check, hell yeah brother.

[@skipperg4436]

Jokes aside, what is the correct way to counter proxy hatch in your natural?

[@franciscoguilhermevaladao6118]

Use money max out then move and expand

[@unknownkw]

As protoss you should use the minerals for either more economy (nexus/probe), more zealots (warp gate/pylons), or more defense (cannon/batteries). It is the basic thing also called "mineral dump". I think building cannon/battery defense and warping zealot/stalkers on the other side of the map (by getting prism and 4 warp gates) is the best defense against this mass spine push. Should hard counter his build easily. Once you have the zerg bases destroyed, spread your zealots to every base so that he can't expand anywhere while making colossi with range or tempest to clean the blockade.

[@sedan_dad]

Harstem is funny asf 💀🤣

[@NeoBladeSC2]

@Harstem and @Hamster: I did not see the video yet, but the Video-Poster (aka "maxresdefault") made me ULTRA curious! Click-Bait? :P

[@Kilesfactor]

Magus got a point though, usually you wanna kill your zerg oppenaunt as soon as possible, or else you'll get either Lurker fucked, Brood Lorded, or Binding Clouded. Edit: Never mind, Magus played like a drunk toddler. sorry magus

[@deadmonsterhr7209]

Didn't know Shakespear was still alive, truly moving words

[@jasonsurh5936]

First! I'm a huge fan of your videos and look forward to your content each day 😊

[@justanotherspectator9]

Yes Hamster it would be a silent 'g' in Gnarl. Also I would've been mad to watch an IODIS that was obviously nothing to do with imba - but this was pretty hilarious lol

[@lad4694]

OHHHH IT'S ABOUT TO GO DOWNNNNNNN

[@chrissmithdoe2100]

THIS IS PLAT?! wtf...

[@lotgc]

"Zerg tech op" >Proceeds to play worse than the average bronze player

[@j_stein]

My guess is that Magus believes pool into static defence is an op tech path. While Protoss has to decide to go gateway or forge first to cheese, Zerg gets it right off his main pool. Zerg also has the benefit of having the strongest static defence of the races but it’s limited by either air or ground, requires creep and takes larva (uses up a drone). But this Zerg cheese is fairly all in and costs an entire hatchery to even start with. What Magus fails to realize is that a single battery with overcharge would have easily defended this off. Instead he scouts for a nydas and fails to even build a battery. Definitely a well deserved you suck! 😂

[@MrTroxism]

This cant be plat 😂😂

[@Strop9911]

I think he meant that zerg is op because they can make defensive structures off just a spawning pool (the "i cant build cannons off gateway so why can he do it with spawnpool logic"). His restricted vocabulary likely prevented him from elaborating this properly.

[@marmotteentongs1287]

i love the tiltle of the video

[@Gandalf1232]

The obs "yes! My chance to finally leave Aiur and contribute to the Protoss cause! Warping in now Executor Magus!" Ten seconds after appearing: "Oh hellllllllll nah! Someone, WARP ME BACK HOME!"

[@LounoirRecords]

never scout anything and call it op yup, totally legit complaint there

[@DarthShpan]

I believe that "Zerg tech op" will become some sort of inside joke of this community. Good Lord. Harstem seems to often overreact, abusing sentence "this was the worst game i have ever seen in my entire life". But this time i 100% with him. Wtf was that. I can remember my first 10 games i played. I was Terran, i remember from campaign from starcraft 1 that tanks and ghosts was cool. So i was turtling with tanks on 2 bases, and waited for my oponent to suicide attack me. And if he didn't want to do it, then i was sending ghosts to randomly nuke his bases. It seems that magus was doing the same thing, but instead of tanks he is using immortals and distruptors, and instead of ghosts he uses...... Observers? I really don't get it. At all

[@hakobian2162]

Mobile static defense is op zerg tech...........spines and spores op....observers had ZERO chance against them.

[@earthbind83]

My Protoss MMR is 2700, i.e. exactly the same as Magus', but my APM is half of his. It must be because I make fewer different types of units, especially not 10 observers. I don't know how I would've handled a spine crawler rush though. Maybe I would've sunk some minerals into cannons to guard my immortals on the ramp.

[@Rtheghost]

That guy must be used to playing FFA on some FPS, thinking you can spawn anywhere xD

[@adhillA97]

In English, the "gn" is easy. You just don't pronounce the "g". At all. It's just a (maybe slightly longer) "n".

[@dirkbester9050]

I think he had a point. The tech he faced in that final zerg push was overwhelming. IMBA even. What kind of copium could possibly make up for this 5 base vs 1 base slaughter. It's not right! It really isn't.

[@artemirrlazaris7406]

anyways, I did call it, it demonstrates poor defence, when you bank 1400... thats .. 2-3 nexus and expansions and jsut moving his base elsewhere... 8:00 game time... the lakc of spending... sometimes, its better not to engage, in this case it is best not ot engage,, I mean the investment of the zerg is over 10 drones, and about 1000 minerals.. maybe more, lol. so just step around and go elsewhere. Build a nexus, recall your army and probes, and make him think hes winnning with maybe leaving a stalker behind to protect and sacare him off a bit, while you make a a new life. I consider static defence a negative loss unless its being effective. At this point magnus oculd of had around 50 workers... and several bases combined with all that defence also.. Not sure on teh obersvor... being built.. first.. but, lol... meh.