How Quidd Became the 2nd Pokemon Trainer to Win a Major

[@Soooooooooooonicable]

The fact that he ALSO won squad strike and came in second in doubles is INSANE. Also, he only lost a total of four games during singles.

[@ark8021]

3 being in GF btw. Wtf

[@bigpapasmash9545]

@@ark8021 other one to muteace

[@grinkleshtink]

It's insane to me that quidd didn't drop a single game until winners finals

[@TavaresSSB]

The Quidd Ivysaur was the star of the show, amazing to see someone be so confident with their coverage

[@nickmarble7226]

His squirtle was probably out more than ivy he’s honestly the same with all the Pokémon a balanced trainer

[@Hensley_Jb]

@@nickmarble7226 his ivysaur definitely did great work. His charizard was used purely as a finisher. The squirtle was also amazing but u could see that the ivy was more technical

[@Barynnthepally]

His squirtle did some insane work honestly. Probably even more so than his ivysaur did

[@psychflare]

Not gonna lie, Quidd’s vine whip under the stage against Scend had me absolutely befuddled

[@imESAM]

Definitely bewildered and vexed

[@sweettea5166]

Completely flabbergasted

[@nonachyourbusiness1164]

Absolutely perplexed and baffled

[@splatzilla6064]

Totally astonishing

[@dizzycapybara4162]

Indubitably cataclysmic

[@cullenhutchison6528]

Ivysaur's bulb can be hit, but it cannot be grabbed. That is what can lead to some situations such as Scend whiffing the grab at 17:37. There are actually many weird places on characters' bodies that cannot be grabbed even though they can be hit (either all the time or during certain moves/animations), such as ROB up b. The interactions are fairly rare, but still come up ever so often and are very stupid.

[@Katakuri]

Not only the 2nd total, but the first one post-Ivysaur nerf

[@imESAM]

Wait….thats true. I didnt think ahout that

[@cullenhutchison6528]

Was LTC7 post-Ivysaur nerf? I think it was, and Tweek won that tournament with PT.

[@SeriousStriker]

@@cullenhutchison6528 No, it was pre-patch.

[@cullenhutchison6528]

@@SeriousStriker Were there 2 rounds of Ivysaur nerfs? It feels like Ivysaur had received some sort of nerf at that point, but my memory may be failing me.

[@kilaquill2537]

Still have no clue why so many people dropped PT, such a good character(s)

[@alfonsovelazquez9565]

They're hard to manage

[@wytstar]

Overreaction to nerfs is such a typical thing for fighting games I feel

[@nickmarble7226]

Leffen

[@mrjollyguy25]

Also because Leffen doesn't focus on Ultimate and Tweek (and later on Moxi) dropped PT.

[@scottcollins7198]

People's opinions of what characters are strong in the meta are ever-evolving. If you look at Japanese top-player tier lists for instance, you'll see like Sheik and Shulk in top 3 above P/M, Joker, and Pika. It's all opinion. In a game with a roster of 90 characters, really anyone above bottom 20/30 can make huge waves/win majors. And as ESAM said, PT having not been "in meta" for so long probably plays to Quidd's advantage bc people rarely get top level PT practice since the other big names dropped the character. Most characters in this game are very very good and have tools to win even their "bad" matchups if played at the level Quidd played in this tournament.

[@Aurora_Veill]

ESAM: "Quidd kinda freaks out" Quidd: **Moves his head half an inch**

[@scottcollins7198]

Marss said somewhat recently that really, no matter who you are, if you want to be a top-of-the-top player in this game, you need to at least have one secondary that you can whip out at a high level to keep an opponent on their toes. The meta is just so up in the air at this point, and there are so many matchups that aren't clearly-defined/change depending on which characters are popular meta picks/how good counterplay against a character is since there are 90 characters in the game. Like you said, since PT hasn't been "in meta" for a while, this plays to Quidd's advantage since people don't have the consistent matchup/counterplay practice they had in SSBU's early days. It'll be really interesting to see how Quidd does in future majors/if more people pick up PT as a secondary again. I'm not complaining, I always thought PT had sauce.

[@redfieldwong717]

This advice from a guy who only uses zero suit samus? I know he pockets snake or falcon but he has no established secondary. Kinda makes his argument a bit weak when he himself doesn't follow suit.

[@scottcollins7198]

@@redfieldwong717 He said in the same thought that that's why he's fallen off in terms of top player conversations. He just doesn't play enough characters that are relevant in the meta right now

[@connergoldsborough4093]

Yes!!! I watched this right after it happened and was really hoping you’d do a breakdown!

[@hughmungus99]

bruh he's literally the very best that no one ever was

[@kyan4082]

This wins

[@acespades5540]

Quidd has already become one of my favorite players to watch

[@fullduck97]

He literally didnt drop a single game until winners finals

[@Marcelobernart]

Loved the soundtrack, also, really like that your analysis came so fast! Hope to see you again in TO Esam. GL buddy!

[@anthonyfernandez7553]

11:45 had me dead lmaooo

[@jaysibiri]

this tournament alone got him on the PGR which is crazy... assuming the list isnt made already

[@SeriousStriker]

It wasn't PGR ranked because the PGR was delayed due to COVID.

[@mysticsquirtle5109]

This tournament was actually insane, Quidd was the second pt to win a major, losing 4 games in the tournament while also dominating squad strike and doubles, and Kola became 1 of 4, now 5 players to win 10 consecutive sets in losers

[@AndreasSaag]

I think his opponents should quidd playing

[@th3bLackGraffer]

Quidd it with all the puns

[@dragonryder7]

I quidd life

[@eclipseultra]

glad to see that quidd proving pt still top tier

[@tundral]

Let's fucking go more ESAM analytical content

[@acekingdom5050]

Just one question though: Did the razor leaf at 20:10 hit or does Peach dodge? Find out on Vgbootcamp’s video

[@Manganimemer]

I would have loved if Sparg0 could have been at this tourney: seeing him and Quidd box it out would have been absolutely awesome.

[@Michallote]

I think SpargO would win as well, he was so close to winning his first major to MkLeo

[@Manganimemer]

@@Michallote I also think Sparg0 would probably win, but I think Quidd would have put up a hell of an entertaining fight, *especially* with how well he was with playing the day of the tournament specifically.

[@sk8boigage]

Pt is literally the reason I got into smash in the first place lol

[@jackanderson368]

I think the reason Pokemon trainer fell off is due to players like tweek, Leffen, and Moxi speaking badly about them. Pokemon trainer is still a great character with the only flaw being that their neutral is lackluster for a top tier.

[@waddles6805]

More of none of the Pokémon deal with camping well and many of characters can exploit that

[@despa2336]

Tweek at LTC7, Atelier in Japan idk which one but ik he's won them 2nd post quarantine tho

[@typhlosion7872]

I miss Tweek PT, but I'm glad he's found a character he's more comfortable with

[@iv624]

Hopefully i really do hope tweek sticks to diddy or goes back to pt or even wario. He’s super good i’m sad to see him not participating in big majors this year

[@Michallote]

@@iv624 why is he not participating? Did he get covid or sth?

[@iv624]

@@Michallote I’m pretty sure he’s just worn out. Like i’ve seen his recent tournament sets and he’s been losing more. He’s just tired of competitive right now. Like see the match vs sonix, that definitely proves it. I think he’s just taking a little break right now and just isn’t feeling it.

[@alphawolf7038]

Am I the only one who feels like Zard Bair is the strongest back air in terms of ko power. Like even more than Bowser.

[@gravemind76]

Rage zard back air is truly something to fear😨. Move straight up robs you

[@DragonMaster1818]

Funny how pt has won only 2 total majors but is still a high tier

[@PrecludeLP]

Ivysaur is still excellent. The character has some insane moves with a lot better frame data than you would think. Also, Frame 13 grab always.

[@prestonvoigt2030]

The music at 5:56 haunts me from shiny hunting dialga.

[@AnthonyLikesCards]

I can see PT being a top 3 character in this game in a few more years. The reality is that the character just takes way longer to optimize because of the whole 3-characters-in-1 thing. Especially because you need to learn 3 entirely separate playstyles for each of the Pokemon, it makes perfect sense why a character like this won't have their full potential shown until mains of the character have had atleast half a decade to properly learn and practice with each character.

[@Contrary22]

No more patches. Tier list is set in stone. What is, is what will be.

[@darymetal]

Yhea i absolutely agree that char representation means nothing, i mean look at the char spread. Nobody plays Pika at top level with the exception of Esam, nor Byleth with the exception of Leo, Roy with the exception of Kola..... This game is just really really good man. I think it's hard to achieve such a balance in fighting games overall

[@rapoulasp4809]

Goblin also plays Roy...

[@owenkidd1711]

So exciting to see new players rise up so fast, especially mute and quidd

[@trainertaylor5396]

Muteace has been active since S4

[@owenkidd1711]

@@trainertaylor5396 I worded it poorly, I meant ‘new’ in the sense that neither of them have really been in top 15 territory for ultimate until recently. You’re right though his peach was sick in 4.

[@zbze-zo6xe]

Quidd’s Charizard needs polishing. His Squirtle is on point though. So is his Ivy

[@zveks2022]

The lack of zard upsets me

[@redfieldwong717]

Very underrated for sure. My opinion only but he is the best one out of the 3

[@b3ardedragon921]

My friend: dude swapping between pyra and mythra is so big brained Me: so then pokemon trainer is galaxy brained?

[@alexdigg]

Quid made big moves

[@30DayITP]

For my true DMV peeps, did Esam say "jhi like" at 18:40

[@Jjjr-]

Pt mains lost hope till quidd won

[@Red-oy1ld]

You should watch atelier as well He is the number one pt imo He has even beaten zackray in a tournament (i don’t remember if it was the final)

[@Jjjr-]

@@Red-oy1ld I've seen him he's mad good I wish more japan players could travel so we can see them beat the top 20

[@nighfinite]

What song was playing at 12:00

[@XenoBlader16]

razer leaf is side b noch neutral b ^^ so he didnt miss the b reverse at 8:05

[@imESAM]

You can b-reverse a sideb and get neutral b by accident because u pressed B too late

[@MDrummKid2]

that outro is fucking uncanny

[@azuremoon4372]

Poor moxi. She lost to the people who came first and second

[@scottcollins7198]

Sometimes brackets play out like that /:

[@gravemind76]

What I find funny is she lost to the character she dropped and it remind me of the episode when the kid left gengar just to get washed by it later or Paul chimchar

[@yourbellboy]

ESAM! Would you consider discussing common ways to beat tether recoveries❓ I find they only have a few weak points, and flubbing the edgeguard (like a missed dropzone aerial) can be devastating 😬

[@krontexpit]

11:35 you got beef with Tilde?

[@imESAM]

I just think him thinking he is aggressive is funny LMAO

[@nicholas21228]

dude comes off as super entitled and full of himself

[@damarihanson3876]

There was this tweet where he said that he’d never stoop as low as to camp to win, even against like Sonic players. Seeing him retreat and stand still sometimes after a tweet like that is very amusing

[@redfieldwong717]

The hell? How is it beef? I think you are sensitive

[@benjissb7434]

@@redfieldwong717 how’s he sensitive lmao, what esam said sounded very condescending, I assumed he had beef too, so did other people in the comments of this video.

[@An1m0s1ty7]

What did I miss? Why are we flaming Tilde?

[@thunder4374]

When are you going to make another pika match up chart

[@Rotcentral-i8d]

❗️ QUIDD GAMES ❗️

[@bnsz8704]

The Watergun against Kola in the finals was so sad. Just Roy in special fall 😭

[@mattdragon1253]

SQUIDD GAMES ❗❗

[@saturnage7554]

Quidd games

[@LostCoin1]

Where did scend go? Dude dissapeared for a couple months even from yt when i thought he was tryna make the content pivot

[@imESAM]

He was literally at Mainstage, SWT, here, and other events?

[@LostCoin1]

@@imESAM my bad then didnt catch any of his sets. Only noticed the content break, my apologies

[@peregrinehawk8363]

If character representation meant anything Ganon would be top 5.

[@hunterpurrington2025]

Why didn’t you go, would’ve loved to see you compete there

[@imESAM]

Pandemic

[@hunterpurrington2025]

@@imESAM fair enough

[@noosense]

I always thought his pacman was amazing also

[@bournechupacabra]

Didn't Leffen win Dreamhack 2019 with Trainer?

[@imESAM]

There was only 1 pgr player there (Mr. R)

[@thegnshut9922]

Does he get a summit spot?

[@voodooedits785]

No

[@Sora-GrandCross]

oh damn quidd is nuts didnt watch the tourney live but might go back and watch more of his sets, super fun to watch

[@gravemind76]

I don't know who dair is more free ivy or pyra lol 😆

[@SDfighter1]

Could someone explain to me why ESAM thinks ivysaur is the worst of the 3 mons

[@imESAM]

Squirtle fast and good combos and tech stuff Charizard has broken OOS good movement and arguably is the scariest character with rage in the game Ivysaur is good but i think most stuff ivy wants to do has better and more obvious counterlay if u slow down

[@SDfighter1]

@@imESAM Thank you

[@SDfighter1]

Could someone explain some of that counterplay?

[@wolfy193]

more tilde shit talk please

[@bruhbruhbruhbruh859]

Why tho

[@madmoxxi7397]

I don’t get what makes a major anymore

[@feraligatrmaster9918]

Probably number of attendees, but I can see how that can confound with really big regionals.

[@madmoxxi7397]

@@feraligatrmaster9918 i get that but surely the amount of pgr level players plays a role

[@feraligatrmaster9918]

@@madmoxxi7397 That makes sense, but the pgr hasn’t been updated in a while, so that factor can’t have too much influence at least for the last year or so. We should get an updated one sometime this year tho.

[@madmoxxi7397]

@@feraligatrmaster9918 i mean i guess but someone told me the pgr season hasn’t even officially started and none of the events so far are pgr events I think it was marss

[@feraligatrmaster9918]

@@madmoxxi7397 Yeah, but I’m pretty sure the pgr hasn’t changed since COVID. I’m not just talking about this year. Yeah just checked. It hasn’t been updated since 2019.

[@Winter-cb6gh]

He won lol and played better that’s all

[@PK_Kaito99]

🤝🏾

[@shaneb4910]

She?

[@yunogasai7283]

the he him is cringe af

[@rapoulasp4809]

Looks like someone is scared of pronouns

[@damarihanson3876]

I think it is too, but it’s a necessary “evil” you feel me?

[@michaelmcdonald2005]

Nothing cringe about knowing how to refer to someone their preferred way

[@yunogasai7283]

@@michaelmcdonald2005 yep tomorrow its chipotle/squirrel dumpfk. Gamername is enough

[@michaelmcdonald2005]

@@yunogasai7283 You know full well that commentators and viewers don't always refer to players as their tag, because English as a language sounds terrible when repeating the same proper noun over and over again. There's a reason pronouns exist, and the correct ones to use should be public knowledge.