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[@ixaldok8379]

Imagine Third Axiom with killing tally instead of headseeker. Genesis keeping killing tally up forever would be a scary thing

[@darklordshuaib]

They'll never put it on a primary 😢. Focused fury + genesis would be amazing as well. Need more primaries with that combo.

[@Blackhart-7]

​@@darklordshuaib I feel like they would of it worked like reverse Vorpal Weapon aka granting more damage if it's heavy but less when it's primary

[@Maverick_Gaming]

Shoutout to SkyUK for sponsoring Heli's upload (or lack of upload) schedule 😂 we're just happy you're back, Heli!

[@marchilika]

Was just typing out my observation of your cerberus "technique" before you started your disclaimer LOL. Great video tho glad to see you back

[@Heli]

[@axe2grind244]

The Senuna with headseeker is insane and few people use it. You will melt anything within range and it does not matter what your opponent is using, they are dying first.

[@pecador-torr]

senuna and High albedo yea

[@frankiechan9651]

Sorry to hear about all the internet service issues you've been having Heli. I'm going to have to see if I have or can craft a primary/secondary with cascade point now and try that combo out. Glad to see a new video from you. Love your face.

[@pukipuki6712]

Adjudicator can match adept shyuras wrath in range, and you dont have to go flawless for it! And it only has a .06% usage rate in pvp, insanely underrated.

[@deltapb]

13 zoom womp womp

[@tybrunz]

@@deltapb That's where Rangefinder comes in handy!

[@cryengine_x]

you dont have to go flawless for shayuras either. and no adept isnt very important. although now its easy to get an adept too with passage of persistence if you must.

[@CarriesOnTop]

@@cryengine_x the adept gives u plus 10 range from adept range plus 3 to every stat it is significant just not necessarily at all for it to be good but could be better

[@cryengine_x]

@@CarriesOnTop yeah i know. adept range i like to run backup mag on my smgs because they tend to have small mags. so it's not even free. plus ya if you have the same roll adept is better, but not enough to notice, but the adept roll is probably worse. i run chroma rush sometimes without even a origin trait and its still great, just to show you all these tiny improvements mean nothing. point is a great no adept roll still beats a mediocre adept roll with ease. or even close. i was watching a vid by one of the best players the other day and his shayuras had like 60 range. you dont even need that much range tbh if the rest of the roll is worth it.

[@thisguyiguess9179]

this feels like lower energy dfp 5 seconds in, im so for it, subbed

[@Heli]

i'll take that! love the boy DFP :)

[@Strum-Enjoyer_2056]

I’m a bit sad that there was no strum representation in this video, This may have been a mistake in your video as the holy grail of weaponry, Strum, has gone unnoticed for far too long, I need you and everyone watching this to spread the good word of our glorious leader and weapon supreme, Strum. Good day.

[@MlopryXD]

As another sturm enjoyer (Sturm is my #1 kinetic weapon in pvp): I agree.

[@inheritress4791]

sturm is not used because of 120s with precision instrument

[@Elysian-III]

K

[@ABlackGuyAdept]

​@inheritress4791 which is why it needs an updated catalyst. Graviton lance was already a stat monster and it got a stat boost and TWO perks in it's Catalyst. So giving Sturm precision instrument would be nice.

[@Strum-Enjoyer_2056]

@@inheritress4791 This reasoning is appalling, all true strum fans realize the sheer power of the strum. When people finally discover this truth, the worlds will shake, The Strum will be realized and unleash terror among man itself. Only those who heed this warning will survive its reckoning.

[@SamuelHollandsh]

Come to think about it, that quicksilver auto was taking me by surprise earlier in iron banana. Awesome video, thanks for sharing.

[@JimmyGainz]

Heli, I don’t know if anyone has told you…you’re amazing, you’re intelligent and you’re one hell guy! Just thought you should know that brother. ✌🏾

[@m.burito7510]

Took so long to upload that i started facing my gender dysphoria struggles before another video came out, but nah fr happy that you're back.

[@MidKnightXMB]

Huge vouch for the Harsh Language. Wave frames with Disruption Break make for a very cheesy primary cleanups, which can then funnel into more kills (provided your Kinetic Primary has a damage booster.)

[@elchoronano]

I use this with explosive personality+LW with lucky pants

[@pirate_duck4985]

THOOOOOORN is the cheesiest, dirtiest, most disgustingest (Am I Wording Right!?) Pairing with any D.B GL be it Wave or Regular Breach. Especially if you have Exotics like Knucklehead or Necrotic Grips on!

[@Blackhart-7]

Honorable mention for Cascade point: "The Prophet" Might as well call it the Last Sentence because having that with Discord/Cascade point feels like using a map wide budget Last Word 🤣 I hope you're doing okay and thank you for the video!

[@Heli]

i am currently trying that exact roll and it'll take me a bit to get used to how wobbly and different it is when Cascade is proc'd 😆 much love, Blackhart :)

[@JustinFilly]

heli my turtle ate a lettuce piece and wanted you to know it was crispy

[@term3092]

Missed your videos very much man, they've always been a breath of fresh air

[@Heli]

much love Term!! thank you very much :)

[@jonathancotter7429]

the third axiom rolls moving target+elemental capacitor. use a stasis super and you will strafe so freaking fast, ppl wont be able to hit you and your peek shots are on point, trust me

[@JuanVazquez-zd7do]

Thanks, didn't know it came with this. I'll start trying to get this roll as I have max vanguard engrams and reset too many times.

[@stardreamix786]

ima get that! thanks!

[@br3akd0wn001]

I have this roll, and use it with Mask of Bakris for the 4x Arc damage boost. Pair with Stasis special obviously

[@REDwispDRILL]

Always happy to see a new heli video! Thx for creating some of the most enjoyable content!

[@Heli]

much love Red!!! good to see ya

[@chrisseguin1621]

Positive outlook is my favorite pvp auto . Zen kill clip or gold tricorn even Tap and KC its amazing

[@madavgis7]

great vid my friend, you gained a subscriber!!! I love how you troll yourself ( i am actually s**t in PVP but i keep trying)

[@Heli]

thank you so much friend!!

[@DadBeardBad]

I went last night and got the catalyst for Cerberus after watching. I never really played with this one much, I’m gonna try it out today!

[@Heli]

hell yeah!

[@Fin_Germyas._.]

Never knew about double cascade. You have earned a follow

[@Heli]

much love! thank you very much :)

@12:53 "bob the farmer" 💀

[@MRLuckyE85]

Running double cascade point weapons (specifically that randy's throwing knife) has been how I consistently get people thinking I'm cheating lol. I do so love wacky stuff that isn't good, but can be great in very very short windows.

[@Heli]

hahaha yes! much love Lucky!!

[@El3mentall]

the prosecutor auto rifle from prophecy (drops from 1st encounter) can roll discord+cascade point, and its the same RPM and slot as positive outlook

[@Heli]

i can't believe i glossed over that. I'll have to get that for some infinite ammo cascade sillyness :)

[@steak3332]

Hi, just stumbled onto your channel just now and I really like this video! I actually have been using The Third Axiom for a bit now and I wholeheartedly second his recommendation. Will try out the others as well. Have a great day :)

[@Heli]

a fellow Third Axoim enjoyer! hell yeah :) thank you very much my friend 💙

[@quangodjango9351]

I thought you were about to throw it right back to the Niflheim Frost, but my eyes deceived me and it was just Randy's 😥 Anyway, lovely to see you

[@Heli]

Niflheim! Man I gotta get that out now. MUCH LOVE QUANGO 💙

[@Rumi_117]

Heli AKA GENESIS Cerb is one of those guns that feels so absolutely Destiny, I pulled it out more times than I would like to admit during the bubble trials meta haha Loved the video!! ♥

[@l4430]

I've never heard of you but within the first minute of watching this video i'd hit subscribe. I think I have a new channel to binge watch lol

[@Heli]

much love!

[@Zombiewho117]

New Heli and I’m here for it!!

[@renegademikey2458]

I remember going to your stream under Ataraxia asking when's the next video and now it's here woohoo!

[@Heli]

:D

[@Harvologist]

WOOOOOOO GO HELI GO GO GO!!

[@lupuskitsu248]

Cerberus? Instruction unclear, died to a slug at 29m.

[@DefinitelyNotLars]

Babe, wake up, the bri ish man did in fact upload THIS IS NOT A DRILL

[@SamEy3Am]

On the Genesis train - people LOVE reload perks, so why the hell isn't everyone crazy for genesis? It's literally the best reload perk in the entire game for PVP. Its just a way better subsistence. Got the sub from me for this point! Edit: Also 9:58 made me laugh😂 It is indeed, great!

[@Heli]

TRUEEEE. And thank you very much friend! 💙

[@Iron_Born_LLC]

Why am I just now finding this channel?!

[@JinYasha]

This is a fun video I’ll have to give it a shot

[@term3092]

Yoooo that's him !!

[@EidolonAlly]

Naurrrrr dont give away how good Cerberus is!!

[@deathschmelda]

Your tone is incredible. Love the jokes.

[@ironladyerimuth]

I am continuing to spread the good word of Edge of Concurrence. Best glaive in the game, and insanely fun.

[@emmanuelseucharan6691]

That last combo is insane!!!!

[@ike8887]

We missed you heli🫶

[@oldavo]

The cascade point combo is crazy!

[@hugobossk3429]

Heli video, I’m very happy :D

[@Meme_dad1]

Mom!!! Heli is alive… he remembers about us!!😂😂😂

[@patrickjones2202]

Never ever thought about cascade point.. Just used all my crucible engrams and gunsmith ones. Now running a coronach 22 with hot swap and cascade, and a randys with zen and cascade ( 99 engrams and no discord, cascade roll!). It turns you into a monster! I love it

[@Heli]

love to hear it!! Coronach feels so nice to shoot too 🔥

[@NebulaJazz]

I main cerberus and destroy sweats and streamers i love how you mention my baby

[@YoHester]

I have a third axiom with Zen moment and multi kill clip and it's always beaminggg I love it and it's so fun !!

[@philiphayes1470]

Enjoyable watch, gotta love someone who chats shit with intelligence..! Subbed, thanks for sharing... "👍"...

[@Heli]

Much love Philip! I appreciate that :)

[@drakewicker2999]

Holy shit when you slide your dude moves so quick !

[@SJRuggs]

Suggestion for the cascade point build: use stylish executioner on prismatic hunter with facet of solitude, you're probably going to hit that off really easily because of the increased fire rate. Then you have wallhacks and a tangle just in case.

[@kensmart1766]

I'm so glad your back Heli....I always enjoy your videos....

[@Heli]

much love ken!!

[@friendlierpotato5466]

Noo, you can’t leak the secret aeons radiant spam build. It’s so fun to use, especially with vigilance wing, since you just benefit so much from dead teammates.

[@Heli]

ooh V Wing! Great idea! Awesome synergy :)

[@RpgGuyVerified]

The same could be said for my Tangled shore Scout rifle....

[@dlpasco]

This is so great. Love the double cascade point strat 😃

[@Bigsmoke-zg2ko]

I love using the yarovit with mask of bakris it’s nasty

[@Heli]

great shout! i'll try that out :)

[@augustgondek2427]

Sick titan

[@zekkikun528]

Just ran into you earlier today in Iron Banner at Disjunction! GGs! You were really rocking that Cerberus+1!

[@CapKong]

CERBERUS NUMBER 1 BABYYYYYY We've missed you Heli

[@Raequest]

It's funny, you posted this video yesterday and this is the first time I've ever seen you on youtube! You have a great voice and personality, and I'm liking what I am seeing so far. You got a new follower! :)

[@Heli]

thank you so much my friend! means a lot :) glad to have you here 💙

[@Starkiller_1677]

Oh My God the man somehow escaped Seattle

[@Heli]

yes

[@Sean_Jaggers]

Forever will my cerberus live in my heart

[@woodersonandmelbatoast6043]

Cerberus is the messiah for controller players. I loooooove that thing.

[@arberrexha7312]

I have a Trust hand cannon with genesis and explosive payload. Never went back.

[@elliotpenn5454]

Love your videos heil. Keep up the great work 👍

[@Heli]

thank you very much elliot :)

[@zackphy]

Maybe try putting a reaper mod on your class item so you get an orb when you use your flip and get a kill then have surge mods on your boots, 1 for each weapon type you're using, or tripple up on your favorite whatever you want. So then you'd flip, get a kill, swap to next weapon with cascade while picking up the orb and you'd have cascade, radiant and a surge active all at the same time.

[@Darkandmenacing]

Ssshhhhh. If you don't talk about Cerberus, they won't nerf it... 🤫

[@Heli]

ain't no way they're nerfing it, they just gave the Catalyst a reason to exist within the last year haha

[@MikelWellington]

Yarovit slaps. I have Enhanced Dynamic and Enhanced Zen. Its soooo good.

[@CrayonConsumerLXIX]

I don't want people to use cerberus cause I've loved it since it's release before it's catalyst rework so having ppl only use it now irks me

[@Jxhnyz]

Already 11k views. the lobbys gonna be horrorble

[@Heli]

what does this mean lol

[@lotus7107]

Funnily enough cerberus is quite quirky when it comes to range, it has inverted damage falloff up to a certain point, unless the patched that till now (havent played in a while)

[@FoxyFoxyShazam]

wb

[@williams.779]

Yarovit straight up doesn’t have the range to compete with other SMG’s in the slot. You said it might be a skill issue, and it may be part of the problem, but it definitely isn’t the root nor main cause. I’m a 900 SMG enjoyer, and mostly stick to funnelweb and multimach. That being said, the stacking stability with zen moment and omolon intrinsic is tempting…

[@mrwaffles217]

Nice video man

[@CampJYME]

I like hot swapping divinity and Tommy’s with cascade point

[@Heli]

i respect anyone who rocks the divinity and makes it work o7

[@Da-zavala34]

Finally you dropped a new vid feels good that your back i thought you abandonned the channel🥲

[@223ndog]

Thank god your back! Luv you Heli.

[@Heli]

no you!

[@223ndog]

@@Heli oh yeah thanks for another banger video. Please don’t be a stranger.

[@OzzyBfgGaming]

Thank you. Very interesting ❤

[@pavementsailor]

Yay!

[@Arkstellar]

Is this guy the dollar store Destiny Fun Police?

[@Heli]

love dfp!

[@beachtrooper5884]

Zen moment in third axiom and it’s a top tier weapon

[@jonathancotter7429]

I got a zen multikill clip and it shreds

[@inceneration]

I love how, when he slows down the kill with cascade point Randy's throwing knife, it CLEARLY shows how SHIT the netcoding is xD last 2 shots that hits for 55 isnt even on target, and by on target i mean not even CLOSE to the head. Which is mentally disturbing from a game that requires a 60/40 playstyle to win fights...

[@Heli]

tbf that's probably down to my poor internet

[@NoBloons]

That better not being cerberus in the thumbnail.

[@Heli]

no comment.

[@NoBloons]

@@Heli god damn it.

[@itsvurn2237]

10% damage increase in PVP for Cerberus

[@Flippirino]

Thank you for only hating on Prismatic Hunters As a Hunter player, I use Stasis for my PVP experience, I've heard some just hate on Hunter's and give them all a bad name Not all of use are using Prismatic, and maybe not all are using the "Meta" I accidentally used my PVE Prismatic once, and it wasn't that bad, but I wasn't using Swarm/Smoke Bomb, like Duskfield and Threaded Melee

[@jono8518]

cerberus was the first weapon I had any luck in the crucibal when I first started must get t out again

[@calebhenry3601]

“Sees Yarovit icon in the thumbnail” Bro, you do realize that’s one of CammyCakes’s favorite lightweight kinetic slot SMGs right now?

[@wildtiger4323]

I'm not gonna lie, I was playing trials last weekend, and there was a guy using with over 24k crucible kills on the cerebrus. Luckily he was on my team cuz he slayed out. Also, he was using a grenade launcher with it

[@aimlessjames8939]

Cerberus. My beloved. As a Cerberus stan, I forgive your misuse of FF. Depending on the map I use either a scout/pulse or sniper. Big maps sniper for sure, smaller I go scout/pulse just to make it harder for shotgun apes to get ammo if I mess up the 1v1s. Usually tho, Cerberus eats apes alive.

[@GrungusTV]

Jararaca is very fun for pvp with Rapid Hit and a Damage Perk.

[@baxtermike5093]

Cascade point is also incredible for gambit.

[@highscorezero9080]

Lodbrok-c dynamic sway , tap the trigger.

[@Heli]

proper laser that thing 👍

[@ZRAGE6]

The third axiom where the fux do you even get that ancient thing didn’t even know it existed 😂

[@Heli]

haha it is old! 3x vanguard engrams to focus it at Zavala these days :)

[@Lueibarkall]

If only I could get the sidearm......I have 7 Conditional finalitys. But NO SIDEAREM.

[@vladiordache9701]

Combatants would have to be foes in PVE, not PVP, those are targets

[@loko141]

Shayura's Wrath smg could also roll with cascade point.

[@Heli]

true!

[@Cerberus1141]

CERBERUS?! LETS GOOOOOOOOO

[@ilykimono]

I love you

[@oneminutewonder77]

The iron banner scout rifle isn't bad, enlightened action and precision instrument gives a reliable three tap.

[@theshellderinslowbrostail5422]

Claw of the Wolf?

[@oneminutewonder77]

@@theshellderinslowbrostail5422 no the guiding sight, it's pretty consistent for long range maps. Feels good to use

[@ROFLWAFFLELAWL4]

Cant it also get Slice + Strategist? High class uptime for more slice procs always sounded good

[@pecador-torr]

if you can though, have zen moment cascade point combo on both weapons, like randys, and the prosecutor (im only missing randys in my vault with that combo as it is one of the rarest)

[@Heli]

definitely gonna have to get a Prosecutor roll with the discord + cascade on it, that sounds too good to pass up on 😁

[@pecador-torr]

@@Heli also if you got* taraxippos with cascade and eye of the storm for hotswapping