E46 Drift Wagon HATES The Dry! The Most I've Ever Struggled Driving

[@BigBenlolz]

The car definitely seems underpowered but it looks like when it started to actually drift it was with hotter tires, so all it needed was more air.

[@Mousyy]

Thats what I was thinking, I wonder what pressure the rear tires were at

[@Chattsteezy]

Its underpowered because the car probably weighs close to 5000 pounds lol. Mad props for Joel choosing a different platform but that car needs to go on a major diet.

[@cha7269]

@@Chattsteezy prolly more like 3800 pounds lol, still needs to be gutted tho

[@VENT8699]

@@cha7269 has to be more, my 99 E46 323i weighed in at 3080 pounds today and that was with everything in it still!

[@PHOYTEQ]

@@VENT8699 touring is not that much heavier than the sedan

[@krauseehre5626]

The part where you sing to "Right Here" from Peep just made me like you even more bro :D

[@SkyWolfXP]

When is that?🤨

[@xswagavelli7652]

Fax w music taste😂

[@xswagavelli7652]

@@SkyWolfXP at like 4:23

[@SkyWolfXP]

@@xswagavelli7652 Damn, I'm a big fan of Peep and I'm honestly amazed that such cool people like this still listen to him! He earned my respect.

[@marijuszilinskis1143]

I hope you see this. Make sure your vanos is working on your engine, as it will not have any low-mid end torque. Gut the interior as much as possible as the weight reduction really helps for underpowered cars. And the last but not least, try putting lower profile tyres on the back, such as 205 45 16's. Drifting 323ci myself.

[@xanderclifford3371]

Man i love seeing your progression throughout the video, its starting to look real good

[@PenaxxeMc]

go all out with this car. Take everything out of the back down to bare metal. weld one bar in between rear door pillars to stiffen the chassis. Empty the spare tire boot, if possible cut the boot off and weld it flat. That will get a lot of weight off the car. Shit ton of pressure to the rear tires, lower pressure on front. Adjust the rear suspension to be really stiff so you don't grip up too much and u get less tirehop which will safe you axels and diffs. I've had plenty of e46's, Amazing cars but the touring is especially different. Its really easy to give it too much angle since the angle feels mellow when you are the driver. A touring should be really hard to spin out due to the longer wheelbase. And also, if you want to lighten the chassis more, cut off the insides of the doors and trunkdoor/tailgate or whatever it is in english.

[@B3MMi]

What do you mean by "the longer wheelbase"? What are you comparing it to?

[@PenaxxeMc]

to most sedans, not just only bmws. the difference isn't that much between the e46 chassis, but you still feel them. Extra centimeters in wheelbase lenght + more weight in rear is totally different to drive, compared to a normal e46 sedan

[@appleguy1573]

I dont drift but i wonder if upsizing rear wheels would help you. The sidewalls on those 16’s have so much give

[@xaviertaylor6308]

You should try disconnecting 1 wheel speed sensor which forces the car to not cut power according to Micah Diaz’s 400$ e46 series keep up the good work bro I love all your vids

[@ruffraff4697]

Run low pros all around,low air in the front high in the rear, disconnect your wsp or delete abs by using aluminum blocks,don't be afraid send it, throttle control is key,raise the front squat the rear,add caster, drifting in my Z4 was tough it has EPS,and the weight transfer is way different than many trendy drift cars,Good luck

[@yourvsco]

videos coming out left and right, so glad you were able to find a shop congrats!

[@cammellonzio2185]

8:25 this transition tho!

[@tattmatter4963]

Dude i fucking love that you're posting all your progress! It is so great to see and makes this channel extra special

[@alfonsopolanco622]

The wagon needs some clear head lights and tail lights :))))) big supporter i have a e90 ready to drift it soon

[@0kodyv1]

You should try a better differential like a 3.45 would help you alot to drift in second gear. the 328i engine doesent have enough power to drift in second gear with the stock diff wich is like 3.15 or 2.93 depends.

[@pier11francesco]

The stock 328i has enough Power to drift it's Just the way the touring is I feel like the sedan-coupe Is easier to drift

[@0kodyv1]

@@pier11francesco idk just speaking from my perspective ive owned an e36 328i e36 325i e36 320i and e46 328i so ive had my fare share of experience

[@BadPandaRacing]

Yoo my boiii fellow E46 wagon owner props 👏 🙌 glad to see this my e46 been clunking too

[@grantflory4044]

your singing is top notch

[@sp4nkz0r]

Love it how you're learning and exploring man. Looks like youre misseling off now. I Try to weight transfer with a left foot brake tap before the clutch kick, will send you in more controlled. Works great for "stock" cars.

[@imnota]

Stiffer springs, even more camber in the front and a tune would help

[@BT-mp5ne]

Hey Joel, it felt like your front tires were underperforming compared to the rear ones causing the understeer. Try on some decent rubber to the front and use some less sticky on the back (maybe swap over whatever you have on). You can try some cheaper semi-slicks on the front and some smaller size tires to burn. No need for power just reduce back grip :)

[@BadPandaRacing]

I got that same issue my guy ty

[@M54B30_fan]

I feel you. My ‘05 330ci zhp 6 speed only breaks lose a lil if hard first to second. In the rain, ( i still have an open diff :/ ) it’s an animal. I can go third gear slide at 30 ish onto the onramp on the highway around me, can whip it good, and have fun. In the snow, it’s a Formula D car and is incredible. I want to modify it more, lsd, supercharger, better suspension and headers. Have a catback but want to make it a monster. Great vid!

[@tattmatter4963]

bruh once u change that diff u'll have no prob sliding

[@fk7josh223]

I used to work in a shop the lift wobble is normal, the main thing to worry about is the locks and regularly inspect your lift and I believe you can even have someone come and inspected your lift for you

[@evonai]

More air on the back, less on the front, more clutch kicks to hold the angle where you want it

[@tkdrifts2133]

So because ur car is so underpowered u have to throw a lot of clutch kicks in like when u start to feel the front end grip up throw a clutch kick in. Or when u feel the car start losing power in drift throw a clutch kick in. Also the reason why you car feels better now that u have added camber is because your right your lead wheel is flatter on the ground.

[@CJdriftZ]

Once you added front camber understeer probably got worse, I would have aired the front down a bit so it would have more steer in response. With the camber up front that will make you under steer more, but you are on point as it does give you more grip at angle. Also try to toe out the front a bit to help with lead wheel angle and double check toe out back, you shouldn't have any with this car as it doesn't have enough power.

[@beaudybondar403]

When your driving don’t get discouraged when you mess up, my home track is USAIR and I had a hard time at first on my first event, try to take in all the advice people give you at the track it’ll help a lot

[@howdyrogue]

I feel like the cars too heavy, too underpowered, probably both. Glad to see you getting out and sending it - youll get there bro

[@ddslv8529]

I have e46 m52tub28 drift wagon as well, my tip for you is to get r15 wheels for the back and put 4 bars into it or if needed more.. and last tip with lower power you have to be rough with it, high rpms all the way :D completely different story on wet :)

[@e36Evans]

Try and run more air in rear, Stiffen up the rear a little, and get a shorter ratio diff👍

[@squarrl]

Your inners look pretty done too

[@Mk7_kev]

That car is rolling like crazy. BC’s will help that a lot but sway bars or maybe adjustable links might help that but some 500 treadwears should definitely make a better difference

[@luckgrip252]

Dang, these understeers screwed up my mind sometimes because no matter how much you tyurned the wheel, the car was going straight like on ice :D

[@zaynepelayo5806]

get a 3.46 auto diff i can't recommend it enough the torque is insane and solved all my power problems

[@BadPandaRacing]

BTW I've been rocking those coilovers because I saw your video and they have done great I think I'mma start adjusting mine as well

[@plugpenguin1660]

yo man i would watch some of hoon garages videos, he has a e36 328is with maxpeeds and he drives amazing. the suspension is fine, add front spacers and get smaller rims/tires in the rear to reduce understeer. you want whats called lobster stance, wide grippy front track, narrow slippery rear track, kinda shaped like a lobster

[@plugpenguin1660]

also clutch kicks are your friend in underpowered cars, in transition and initiating. lay on that throttle and clutch kick when you feel like your straightening out

[@ekamvirk7599]

To be fair tho, hoon garage has a 3.91 diff that makes up for the low power.

[@plugpenguin1660]

@@ekamvirk7599 nahh he has the stock 2.93

[@ekamvirk7599]

@@plugpenguin1660 bro that's not true he talks about it in the circle track vids and have u noticed how easily it'll sit on redline? I used to drift on my 2.93 and it was abysmal it would not stay in powerband nearly as much as hoon garage's car

[@plugpenguin1660]

@@ekamvirk7599scope his "whats done to my e36" video you just got no barz 🤷‍♂️

[@munn1407]

didnt expect that joel is listening peep lol

[@kinpump4696]

"I didn't expect Joel to be listening to peep" definitely underage

[@munn1407]

@@kinpump4696 because i have few grammar mistakes makes me underage?

[@krauseehre5626]

@@kinpump4696 toxic

[@insaneiceage9719]

Try to drift with 16 or 17 inch wheels. 18s are too big for e46 when you don't have a lot of power. 16 or 17 with more tire pressure and it will be more easy

[@BangersEnduro]

Might be a better ratio on smaller diameter tyres too, 2nd might end up being in the power for the speed he’s going

[@cookieintune]

If u had lots of power and the perfect suspension u wouldn't be learning as much and probably going of track often so its not all bad , i drive a e46 wagon often and its a really cool car, i also drive a sedan that is 318 and 1600cc and the wagon is 2.0 diesel they feep completely different cars because one has low end power and the other one has no power . I don't know how to drift but definitely was wondering whats the basic settings besides a locked diff and lots of camber but in a way it is good you found out what is happening, its part of the journey and we are with you buddy keep it up !

[@BadPandaRacing]

Omg he crankd that tie rod tho 😆

[@Slow256]

ay youre bold for going out in public being brand new drifting. thats something i could never do lol

[@NoGoodGarage]

i love to see this stuff tho. im just getting into drifting and im gald to see im not the only one who struggles with this sport. and all the info i appreciate a lot.

[@colewilkie]

i would reccommend a stiffer rear swaybar and less or no front swaybar...less shift in rear, therefore less grip

[@0_blxck]

This man inspires me to get out and drift! If only my daily wasn't fwd :(

[@Raiugabe]

I also got a daily fwd (only car) only time I can slide it is in the rain 😅

[@we-r-one_automotive.daniel3108]

Yooo what's good bro good to see you back at it. 1 love bro hell yea. Dude your wagon is sick af

[@purplejerry1]

getting rid of the front arb might help if you're willing to do that since its not a daily, rear camber, stiffer springs like you said should all help keep the end loose shop vids are cool aswell 👍

[@FishFind3000]

9:30 theirs this weird concept that happens when theirs not a fuck ton of rain on pavement called grip..... who would have thought.

[@tannonep7610]

There’s*

[@nikolasmunro6359]

3:55 Bow bow hit that elbow🤣🤣

[@petervideos2275]

ok nice my advise from guy drifting e46 under 200hp :D. Get steering kit it will help you with angle and understeering :D (you can use only the pads for 150 bucks ) and about the rear use used tyres its really enough :D and try 3 bars and go down from that :-) that should help you :D

[@toughie2722]

Hey man what spring rates did you end up going with if you upgraded? I’ve got maxpeedingrods on mine and gonna upgrade to BCs at some point. Tryna get an idea of what spring rates to look for

[@jettstolp1340]

could try chuck stiffer sway bars on the back, so weights more evenly distributed, more cheaper way aswell

[@jettstolp1340]

will have less body roll, so you won’t have as much weight put on your outer tire when drifting

[@tyger5820]

Congrats on the shop

[@pe_trichor__9545]

you should put hatless headers on it add a little bit of power and sound to help out the wagon handicap. hell yeah tho great content.

[@dannyh6511]

Have you changed the vanos seals? Also worth removing the vanos solenoids and pistons and giving them a clean while you're at it. Made a huge difference in my 325ti

[@limitless.motors]

im hating what im doing right now, pulling the motor out of an AWD e46 I need to take the CV axels out since its AWD and the wheels have locking lug bolts on them, which i dont have they key for.

[@StaticAutoStyiling]

Idk if you did it or not but I put a 3.46 final drive diff in my 325ci and I’m liking how short the gears are, you could also put the 4.whatever diff in for even shorter gears idk how that would be for drifting tho

[@dikkodikko6262]

I recommend trying the gravy low power cars. They should give you a good base to practice on! I'm also down to run tandems on the sim with you if it's any help

[@norphes3865]

BROOO Real Head Motion for Assetto Corsa. The moment you try it you'll need it. Best mod for first person

[@CotyDube]

My 325 sedan had a real hard time sliding wit stock power. Do the m50 manifold and some catless headers with a tune and you'll have enough power to slide that big bitch around

[@matkis5464]

Joel, thank you for that video bro! I'd like to see more things you do in your garage with your either e30, either e46 cars! By the way, what engine is in the e46?

[@kinpump4696]

M54b25

[@insaneiceage9719]

Where can I download the map for Assetto Corsa??

[@BadPandaRacing]

Oddly it happens to me when sitting still or moving alil clunking noise that is

[@wilQ1312]

vw t4 rear spring, cut in half thats the shit 🤙

[@VENT8699]

Is the diff welded?? If not weld it! BMW diffs hate drifting straight up!

[@suadsela4923]

Love ur videos i would recomend a go pro with a stick atached to your back window or some 360 camera

[@xyz1890]

Loves your vids! I’m from CT too! If you go to meets can you let us know ? I would love to see the e30🙌🏻 (my dream car)

[@ya420l4]

Do upgraded springs on the max speeding rods your front looks way to soft

[@adamlittle4538]

Don’t drift low horsepower or heavy cars in the dry, go to wet tracks that’s what people in my country do and can drift 4 cylinder with ease, hardly any set up needed

[@serts_ind]

keep the wheels spinning. stay clutch kicking bro.

[@serts_ind]

and for ur front camber plates.. ur can take off 2 of the inner bolts and push the camber in more and there should be extra holes to put those bolts in... OR u can get an ebay angle kit with e90 inner tie rods.

[@pier11francesco]

I feel like the tires in the back have way to Much sidewall, too soft try a skinnier setup and spacers in the rear

[@grantflory4044]

let gooooooooo new video hype

[@vvssen]

keep making bangers bro i love the videos!

[@5Speedz]

Keep it up brother, love this shit

[@6trey372]

right here is my favorite peep song

[@BrynKitchenham]

bro you gotta get a hydro e brake, will make life so much easier

[@jakubjkovacs]

I think you should rewatch your footage, and a lot of times be more agressive with the clutch kicks. Even if you have to kick the clutch few times in short period - it can definitely helps you out :)

[@jakubjkovacs]

Mainly when you are going to straighten out - just give it another clutch kick

[@patwatters3121]

yo just to let you know TRW are actually BMW used suspesion parts at least for most of the E series BMW

[@SuperJoeTendo]

Can you do a m50 manifold on it?

[@Moses.BBlogg]

Big supporter man!

[@PgamerTBP]

Why dont you use all of your screens on the simulator? Or atleast neckFX 👀. Not telling you what to do. Just want to know why

[@ozgurbayrak1374]

Try weldin diff?

[@johanvoetmand7689]

love the content

[@imp9ct239]

gr8 vid brother

[@Ijustwantsometop]

Love the preview pic ❤️

[@jacobrey1132]

joel did you not need an alignment after ??

[@jacobrey1132]

i’ve been wanting to do my tie rods but i’m worried i’ll need an alignment

[@onewayjojo4495]

yo i was wondering what are you ding to your e30 bro

[@TheKingduffy138]

engine rebuild i guess

[@bleachyunknown2000]

You definitely need an hydraulic e-brake!

[@koziolek9734]

From what ive heard its not good to have hella rake on ur car as well, too much weight on the front is not good

[@Germenlyght]

I think you should get the wagon more power

[@proton001]

notif gang >:) keep it up joel

[@F3T4]

underpower ? i have 320i e46 wagon and can drift. u need weight reduction interior 😁

[@ImJoel]

what stiffness rear spring do you have? in this video i was using 7k rear springs

[@F3T4]

ImJoel i have MTS GOLD coilovers its a cheap suspesion in my country 😁

[@avalon6607]

Maybe try narrower tyres

[@tristanwright6293]

Why is no one talking about the replica cobra that someone was drifting LOL

[@Merc-rt4vk]

🔥🔥🔥

[@KristiansVilcans]

You need better front tires!

[@bdgstyle]

Swap! swap! B30!

[@hectictech1455]

Get a tune for a bit of more power

[@ChasePhilport]

My BOI at 8:15 you have that triple monitor setup but youre not using all three??? Setup NVidia Surround kzbin.info/www/bejne/oIbHZquYgtSsb8U or AMD Eyefinity kzbin.info/www/bejne/f56ofJyXeL2YZqM (wack ass setup but simple video) Makes a world of difference

[@JDsGarage]

3:38 diff or higher

[@peterpete5214]

Wake me up when Joel misses 😴

[@914sam5]

Tear down the e30 engine !!!!!!!!!

[@mathiasarciniega6653]

Weld that diff

[@NoGoodGarage]

i think youre over thinking the suspension thing. commit and drive that thing hard