I Let an Ai play Cities Skylines 2 - It Was a Mistake

[@ImKibitz]

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[@zureal01]

"Doint solve problems, Leverage problems" You would make a great politician :D

[@orciencor6001]

Remember, the ai isn't making up these suggestions on the spot or out of thin air. It's taking all its cues from what's already been done. And it's not the rare cases, oh no, this is all the most commonly done methods. The things that get suggested multiple times, from multiple sources. The ai isn't being cruel and evil. It's just following the example its 'parents' gave it.

[@SmokeandSpirit]

Its crazy how motivating an AI purely by profit makes it immediately dive into every corrupt methodology nearly immediately. It nearly categorically explained how government corruption works lol.

[@WilliamLDeRieuxIV]

@@SmokeandSpirit And then lots of people wonder why there's so much push-back on capitalism.

[@SmokeandSpirit]

​@@WilliamLDeRieuxIV Yeah, I don't exactly wonder myself. I get it. Although I also don't conflate capitalism to purely a profit motive. Nor do I deny we need some socialist policies, better regulation of antitrust crimes, and better laws to counter corruption; which using an AI in this way could help inform.

[@WilliamLDeRieuxIV]

@@SmokeandSpirit > I also don't conflate capitalism to purely a profit motive Well it's very easy for capitalists to be consumed with greed (they only see dollar signs), thus, capitalism is a gateway that can lead to them thinking that it is ok to exploit the people (like the AI did) just because it might be more profitable. In other words, capitalism enables them.

[@SmokeandSpirit]

@@WilliamLDeRieuxIV Most certainly. Just people have complex arrays of motivations and values. They are not a purely one dimensional expression no matter what system they exist in. Also money is a multipliar of the expression of those values, not the determinor of, said values. I wouldnt deny some people are susceptible to greed induced brain rot. I don't think its the cause of it though. Though the fact that anyone can reach absurd levels of wealth is silly. There's no value to having that much power concentrated in ones hands. It destroys the balance of power in society and the government and puts all of our well being at risk. Especially if we cannot ensure its left in the hands of those who would create the most shared value with it. If capitalism has any strong flaw its that it doesnt reward honest people with the higher reward, so the dishonest gain more power. This is why it needs to be counterbalanced at least in some respect with socialistic ideals imo. Regulation can only go so far. Wealth caps and basic income may indeed become an inevitability by the time true AI automation gets here anyways. The only reason i dont speak complete ill will on capitalism is its just free enterprise and ill cling to that freedom until the day i die. So its not capitlism itself thats messed up its uncapped capitalism or capitalism on meth like we have now or this "greed is good" bullshit.

[@fishman501]

The part about 'blocking affluent neighbourhoods from low income areas with barriers like highways' makes me wonder if this AI is just the CS version of Robert Moses

[@rudolphantler6309]

With an interesting EARLY LIFE section.

[@noobiumbaconate]

bet

[@pop5678eye]

As many psychologists and computer scientists pointed out ChatGPT and similar software are not true AI. They just collect information out there and replicate it without any creative addition whatsoever. I think this video demonstrates that very well.

[@caesaraugustus8281]

Even these large language models like GPT, which like you said are not actual AGI, all seem to have one thing in common. They are more than happy to help troubleshoot how to eliminate the human problem. We are an incredible, brilliantly stupid species for certain. We know this will end badly but we are going to do it anyway. 🧐☠

[@cerd6292]

Terrific that this is how we are managed. Not in our best interest.

[@tvsoul5823]

I sure do love living next to incinerators

[@infernec]

good reminder of how little your life in the united kingdom is worth

[@El_Negro2003]

Jamaicanism 🇯🇪🇬🇬

[@buff4bcs]

Welcome to Cities SKYNET??? Seriously tho, Do you want Skynet... cause this is how we get skynet!

[@Craigy4488]

LOL skynet hahaha this is how it is now were do you thank thew Billions in tax's goes lol

[@TheAtomicANetwork]

underrated comment right here

[@savarast]

Holy shit, the A.I already knows the capitalism playbook of evil. I'm both impressed and concerned

[@grimthereaperz]

the AI is trained by USA gov historic data with city planning/social issue

[@elplaceholder]

No Wonder it was evil

[@capitalinventor4823]

A low funded fire department (or any other government service) doesn’t mean that it’s low funded across the whole city (/state/country in real life). It means that the services near the rich people are very well funded, the services near the well off are okay, and the services for the majority of the city are very low to make up for the extravagant funding in the rich areas. If Cities: Skylines 2 had areas where racial minorities lived then the service levels would be at the level just enough so that the rich would not notice the people and their suffering.

[@DaysofKnight]

Just like real life

[@zefamousmitch]

That's the US way of public services : everything is highly decentralized, then public services funding are directly linked to local wealth with very low state help (and more lower federal state help...). This isn't the european way, like here in France for example, where most of public services are state level funding and partially local gestion. In fact, poorest counties benefit more funding in education (best way to leave poverty) or public safety (poverty = more crime, unfortunately), for example. Access to health services is the same for everyone and doesn't depend on personal wealth. This is a more fair system and bring more chances for everyone to prosper despite their origin, but it's also a very expensive way and less business friendly, nothing is perfect.

[@devonrobinson5718]

My god, it's full of stars

[@ealtar]

Worlds Gonverned by artificial intelligence often learned a hard lesson:Logic Doesn't Care. -Yin-Man Wei, This Present Darkness: A History of the Interregnum CY 11956

[@TheSykoRC]

is that from Alpha Centauri?

[@ealtar]

@@TheSykoRC andromeda acendant

[@whocares397]

so the ai wanted to make usa ^_-

[@TheAtomicANetwork]

isnt this just china ? Massive polution and put people to work 24/7

[@rikopals]

This is literally how we Europeans imagine the US works.

[@crazysquid0227]

@@rikopals Only in Democrat (Blue) areas like Chicago, San Francisco, NYC, etc.

[@leonardochapman4736]

​@@crazysquid0227 good job bringing politics into this. we all know there is practically no difference between red and blue in the USA

[@codysparks1454]

⁠​⁠​⁠​⁠@@leonardochapman4736agreed. Literally every city is built the same whether it’s Democrat or Republican runned

[@lukluchok8323]

aaaaaand that's basically why people somehow are afraid of AI but not themselves. It's like looking in the mirror.

[@robonator2945]

the great irony is that a lot of the advice that sounds the most evil isn't actually very profitable. If your goal was absolute maximal profits, building all of your infrastructure somewhere prone to natural disasters is... well it's a questionable choice to say the least. (Cheap land is cheap for a reason) The whole monopolization of basic infrastructure thing though checks out, I mean that's basically the entire job of politicians.

[@FastForwardPlans]

As crazy as it sounds, its actually something people have done, and still do. IDK how well it would work on a city scale, but many smaller communities have been intentionally set up in places where maintaining them would be a constant and expensive process, then put them under contracts that force the community members to keep going through specific companies to repair said damage. Or presented themselves as the only option for repairs in that area. The most popular places such such scams are drained swamps, low land near underwater rivers, and sand beds, places where foundation work have a very short lifespan no matter how durable it looks at first.

[@robonator2945]

​@@FastForwardPlans if a company is the one that built the town, its *_their_* money that is wasted from building stupidly. Making investments that you know will fail is bad business, plain and simple. Politicians however, *_they_* can spend other people's money,, so yes there is actually a strong incentive for them to encourage building in poor locations and then either take money under the table, invest, run, etc. a business for repairs. The side at fault there however is the politician/public-governance side of the equation, not the investor/private-enterprise side of the equation though since only the former has the ability to draw in money that isn't already theirs. It's forcing *_other_* people to make poor investments by spending their taxes poorly *_then_* capturing some of the value when those investments fail. If I *_force_* you to spend 100 dollars buying dogecoin on the agreement that whenever you sell your dogecoin I'll get 50% of the revenue, then even if you lose 99% of your investment, I'll still come out of it two quarters richer because I never had to invest any of *_my_* money, yet I was able to capitalize on your losses that I forced onto you. Suddenly I don't have to give a damn about whether the investment is actually profitable, because if you lose 50% of your value (and I take another 50%) then I gain 25 dollars if you spend 100 dollars. However, if you spend 100,000 dollars and you lose 90% of your value, I still gain 5000 dollars. If it's not my money that's lost, I don't need to care if the investment is good, so long as I can spend a lot of it. If, however, I'm forced to make investments with my *_own_* money, then I kinda don't want to spend it on things that I know won't hold their value. Can that still happen? Sure, but there is an incredibly strong selective pressure against it since it's bad business that loses you money.

[@DreadComputer]

So you just made LA

[@JoshuaGanoTyraxLightning]

I get the impression that AI is a Alpha Release still using placeholder assets till it can get its actual real assets installed... including but not limited to its glowy evil red eyes and devil horns. :P

[@heavyarms55]

Wait, I never paid close attention to the fire trucks in CS2 but I KNOW in CS1 there were actual firemen who would run out of the truck and spray water and stuff... In the base game. At launch. But tell me again that CS2 is a proper sequel.

[@Dramn_]

Yea its awful

[@Renavo]

To be fair, the city didnt budget enough to hire actual firefighters. So sentient fire trucks will do

[@heavyarms55]

@@Renavo I feel like that would be more expensive though...

[@heavyarms55]

@@Dramn_ It's not awful. The problem with CS2 is that it's not an upgrade it's a side - grade. It has a bunch of stuff it does do really well - like building roads and setting transport lines just work better in CS2. But there are also so many things it does so much worse, like mod support, and simple details like firefighters putting out the fire or, you know, fences. I still can't believe fences weren't in the base game!

[@Renavo]

@@heavyarms55 the power of technology does wonders! Jokes aside, it looks goofy when the firetrucks just go to the house, kill the fire, don't elaborate, then leave. As funny as it is, I really hope it was a dumb oversight by the devs

[@M1chael42O1]

Kibitz: "how do I best grow this city?" The Bot: "RACISM!" I'm concerned who programmed this thing.

[@almicc]

It said wealth segregation

[@Verrisin]

nobody. Well, I think Kibitz suggested a personality for a fun video, but it knows to do these things PURELY by reading lots of human text and learning from it. It is just mimicking a human. Any "programming" they tried to put on it actually LOWERED all evil things it might say. By default, it just read all books, all internet, and figured out what to do by all those examples.

[@dougbeard7624]

So you're saying the AI acted like California's leadership?

[@coldun85]

Liking the Dystopian AI controlled future. Will we see Escape From Proprisa in the future? With Kibitz Plissken jumping in to save the totalitarian ruler? 😂

[@rfitzgerald2004]

It's uncanny how similar this is to real life! 😆😆

[@SleekWizard]

This felt like breaking the 4th wall because theres so much redlining like this where I live

[@qm43]

Dude at 12:02 was HIGH AF

[@WillDa713]

*to self:* this is just a kibz video, you can remain calm, take everything he says with a grain of salt, the man isn't really advocating for a horrible capitalistic world, it's just sarcasm and third degree, please let it just be sarcasm and third degree... oh no he's got AI generated content now... please let this be satire please please please

[@GreenmanCM]

I was hoping so much to hear the "buh-bye" performed by the fried TTS at the end, and my prayers to the Great AI have been heard!

[@madchem23]

Why would I not be surprised if most city managers follow this same AI management criteria.

[@Chimyjoe1]

12:02 POV you finally afford a house in this market and you're trying not to see or hear all the crappy industry around you

[@KuruGDI]

13:25 As long as the police person is Maegan Hall, everything is fine!

[@LegoMinifigs1]

Machiavellian AI. I love it

[@RomaniFenix]

This ai is like Neuro-sama, Neuro tells you to do good things for the cities, then evil Neuro tells you to do bad things that let the cities burn.

[@TheCatsofVanRaptor]

Me screaming at the screen because the water pump is gonna get everyone sick

[@rceo2]

bro just introduced the video saying skibidi skylines

[@adamjoules]

15 seconds in: Interesting. 2 minutes in: OMG YES 😂

[@dawntreader8370]

that city really resembles los angeles eh makes sense

[@Lellela]

I thought I was pretty jaded and cynical already, but the fact that the "AI" is pulling all of that from real world training data shows me I underestimated how evil humanity is.

[@0o0ification]

This video was really creatively done 😆 Great work bud!

[@raytbrown2]

lol - I love the first 3 min. Subscribed!

[@faceplant950]

Love the twist at the end, though i expected to see some signs midway through. :)

[@МихаилБулычев-с3ч]

Can we get a series of this collab?

[@tristan6875]

I think it's better to NEVER let any AI control the world. xD

[@FastForwardPlans]

Eh, its about the same as what happened in the real world.

[@SimberLayek]

Wait a sec... Cities Skylines seriously doesn't have freakin TOLL ROADS??? *flips a table*

[@slapshot1596]

I like how all the AI's advice for to how to make a billion dollars start with "have a lot of money"

[@KamuiPan]

LOL, this AI assist. game was funny! Good stuff Kibitz!

[@dogk764]

I think this is the best video you have ever made.

[@mrcatboyplayz]

your vids are 100% cool!

[@duphasdan]

It really says alot about the writers of the AI for how much it keeps talking about exploiting the people for profit and power.

[@CurtisMohr]

Nice idea for your video and love the ending!

[@ZeldaAce9592]

This scares me a little. I love it!

[@BLAndrew575-]

🤣 Its scary how accurate this is!

[@Superflott]

new city skylines, but every building that can be upgraded you have to max upgrade

[@xamor-02]

I love how the Ai woman is glitching so much.

[@Povar666666]

Everything is fine, because this game was also made with AI, others cannot explain its problems.

[@nugetocka8054]

You could try surviving mars, its really fun

[@cianvorster2745]

It's crazy how the AI told you to do exactly what the South African government has been doing for 20 years

[@rishoh]

What in the name of Asimov did you set ChatGPT to?! Captain planet villain mode?!

[@jesusonaz9897]

Drink every time they say the word profit 💀

[@frosty9392]

gpt was shockingly honest about how and why things are done bet they patched that out

[@justaperson8560]

😂😂😂 that ai is savage

[@YeensWrath]

This looks like my city, no joke. Probably not the layout of the place.. but just how its run.. 1 to 1 representation

[@Pasha8204]

World GDP ~110-120trillions $ ~15000$/people GDP ppp ~210-220trillions $ ~28000$/peoples World profit GDP ~+6% +7,2trillions $ ~900$/people...

[@LuisRdzG10]

Privatize services... sentence of death

[@Rylan-dz4po]

I feel like City Skylines is most likely yet the moset realistic city building simulator and yet the goofiest city buildibg simulator ever.

[@SrgChicago1]

Yea, Lets not let Ai take over the world. please, Or elect kibitz as president

[@Stoney3K]

Who trained this bot on the Ferengi Rules of Acquisition?

[@drewbarrymoresdealer]

5:06 uh you’re breaking up with

[@sleepnclass]

Yay more skylines 2 content

[@VestleKS]

This ai must be used by the Canadian government.

[@JeanineTattersall]

Me be like seeing the AI be like 'aight imma head out'

[@techvoyagers]

AI being dystopian be like

[@Magnymbus]

Talk about a glass ceiling simulator. Jeez

[@MrZega000]

When an AI bluntly explains capitalism

[@user-wq9mw2xz3j]

Feed it screenshots from in game and let it create ai pictures on how it wants to develop

[@weirdochristoffel5285]

ai in this one is tryin to be jeff bezos

[@compositeboson123]

well, I guess ai doing human things right

[@Verklunkenzwiebel]

Imkibitz has met his evil master !

[@dovahlorian3381]

Literally Las Vegas

[@mr_kirk42]

Whoooooo!!! Cities Skylines!!!

[@oldguhegs]

When are you doing a modded playthrough? Because i can't wait any longer your video's are like drugs i can't stop or i get kibitz withdrawls.

[@TheDerangedFox]

5 1/2 minutes in, and his bot made late stage capitalism.

[@catzual]

wow... that sounds like most cities in real life... :O

[@gijsnieuwenhuys3942]

Anyone thinking AI is unfit to rule should either read I, Robot again or watch this video

[@allko614]

The ai was trained by america i bet

[@VGACGAEGA]

This AI scares me

[@IDRIS-Music]

This one is genius hahah

[@minepicturesthe3rd]

Looks like most cities that you built.

[@roachy_]

LMAOO it’s just Houston

[@demris15]

This scares me

[@RafaelBarbosa-xn6sj]

Bring more manor lords please!!!!!

[@houlej19]

I think Xi Jinping is using the same AI

[@Mikkel-of-Lolland.]

you too AI Lord.

[@KamratFjart]

American city planning in a nutshell

[@meesh12489]

Oh look, Kibitz built Ohio!

[@the_wanted_stock7891]

We’re screwed if chat GBT gets out

[@NexusUSA01]

Chat-GPT is just like SCP-079 and it’s concerning

[@JosuaKrause]

Robert Moses AI

[@user-qq9xu9le5u]

hmm, what a normal video

[@oofran012]

Day 2 of asking Kibz to play They Are Billions again

[@jalfion]

Day 7 of asking for a continuation on Techtonia

[@brandonsmartt793]

I eat Factor.

[@animekitten321]

oops she's saying the quiet part out loud