Immersive Monitoring of Dolby Atmos in Cubase/Nuendo with Waves NX or AirPods

[@jtcomposed7039]

Thanks a lot for this and all your videos and the way how you explain. I learned Dolby Atmos on a fast track, which was completely new for me and it works fine. New level to produce my music and for sound design ideas.

[@michaelgwagner]

Thanks! Best of luck on this new path!

[@jonva13]

Wow, wow, wow. Thank you so much for this video and instructions. This is amazing.

[@michaelgwagner]

Thanks!

[@bigalthelegend5007]

This was so helpful!!! Thank you man :)

[@michaelgwagner]

You’re very welcome!

[@QFXmusic]

Another very informative video :-) On another note i finally figured out how to get Dolby Atmos content from apple music to play through my 7.1.4 studio system as i was only getting 5.1 :-) There is a work around which is pretty easy to do :-)

[@michaelgwagner]

Great! How did you do that?

[@QFXmusic]

@@michaelgwagner Ok so after being on with apple for 2 hours and had only the same info i had and gotten know where ... I found an article on production expert by David Stagl which kinda offered a couple of solutions regarding the problem The 1st being that your interface must be no more than 16 in 16 out... I kinda new this as i had heard it a few times on various forums :-) But apple could not confirm this :-( So in davids article it ref two pieces of software that might be able to help fool the mac into thinking you only had 16 in and 16 outs... Loopback but that didn't work as it only allowed stereo in and no multi channel :-( I chatted with the Developers and they said that its something they were looking into :-) So that left another bit of software called Blackhole :-) Now At 1st though this was not working as you have to switch the output from blackhole to my Audio interface and this only gave me 5.1 again :-( But by a bit of luck i noticed that a couple of time i actually got 7.1.4 from apple music but every time i picked another track it went back to 5.1 :-( Anyway So hear is the trick if you have an Atmos play list and you start the track playing with in and out set to blackhole after a few seconds you change the output to your audio interface all the tracks will play 7.1.4 :-) Unless you stop or skip the track then you have to repeat the few seconds on Blackhole and then back to the Interface.. I know its not perfect but it does work :-) Two things i have deduced from this are 1 Apple music has some kind of system that must look at the actual config of the interface and 2.At this moment in time apple music works best with 16 in 16 out...When i was talking to apple tech i did ask that this be pushed up the line to the developers so that they can right something in that allows interface ins and outs to be turned of or better still they allow any interface to play back content. :-) You should make a video about this as its asked a lot but no real answer until now :-)

[@michaelgwagner]

Interesting. Loopback does allow multichannel though. Any idea why that didn’t work in your case?

[@QFXmusic]

@@michaelgwagner Well the developers told me that it doesn't work multichannel with apple music ? So it must be something to do with the way it sees apple Music. They did say they were looking into it but other than that i do not know.. Maybe someone who is a bit more tech minded like yourself could figure it out lol But making music is my thing lol

[@michaelgwagner]

That makes sense. Very interesting!

[@kenny_buckets]

Thank you so much for making these videos!

[@michaelgwagner]

You’re very welcome!

[@danielross7899]

Very helpful, thank you!

[@michaelgwagner]

You’re very welcome!

[@electroradiance]

Happily subscribed. I would like to 3d print cradles to affix the AirPods Pro to a set of wired headphones.

[@michaelgwagner]

Airpod hacking. I like it! 😀

[@SamuelLeTonqueze]

OK, this is only for the Apple Mac universe... without me. Thanks Michael for your Videos. I will double check your previous one on Supperware stuff that works on Windows.

[@michaelgwagner]

There is some reliance on eithe MacOS or iOS, correct. Not sure why nobody ever ported NXOsc into the Windows world. It should not be complicated to do.

[@Nathankaye]

Really enjoying your videos on Atmos in Cubase 12. Thanks so much. Q: I’ve used your AWS method to use as a reference, but how do you export a Dolby atmos wav that can be uploaded to a digital distributor like Distrokid for release (is it just the wav used to upload to AWS?)? And is there a way to export it so that it’s not such a huge file (3Gb) for uploading? Thanks again for your informative videos. 🙏🏽

[@michaelgwagner]

Thanks. I believe Distrokid asks for the ADM BWF masterfile. And yes, that can be large.

[@Nathankaye]

@@michaelgwagner thanks so much for that super fast reply. Sorry if this is a dumb question, but is the file that Cubase exports the ADM BWF file required?

[@michaelgwagner]

Yes, the one that you export via the ADM authoring menu.

[@murraywebster1228]

Danke!

[@PhilippIllmer]

Hey Michael, thanks for your Content, i just stumbled over your Channel and fell in love immediately. I will definitely recommend it very often! Great praise, how you prepare, think through and explain the things. I notice that you really make an effort! Thanks for that. Well, enough sliming :D ...I have several Questions though: - Is it correct, that everything, that the Ambisonics-Renderer now recieves, is channel-discreet and no longer object-based? - If yes, is there a way to implement headtracking into the binaural Atmos-Renderer directly, so it´s possible to take 100% of the object-based-advantages? - else: is the problem so minor that it doesn't matter at all in practice? Take care!

[@michaelgwagner]

Welcome and thanks for the nice words! You are correct. The object based audio is rendered into Ambisonics first which is then rendered inyo stereo/binaural, so you are technically not monitoring the object based audio correctly. Logic has the headtracking with AirPods built into the Atmos renderer but that is currently the only option you have to go from object based audio directly into head tracked binaural without an intermediate rendering step.

[@VVOPOL]

Cool! Looking to get AirPods Max And was just thinking: hmmm may be they will serve an actual purpose))

[@michaelgwagner]

The Max can’t be used as hearing aids though.

[@VVOPOL]

@ Well, that’s true, but neither can be Nuendo - I guess) [not true, but still] [as I was writing this small joke I’ve realised: more we work, specially in headphones - more likely we will be in need of hearing aid of some sort 🤔 ironically) 81db and so on)]

[@michaelgwagner]

Yes, sorry, I noticed this was a different video. I just put a video out about the Pro2 and their use as hearing aids in music production. And a lot of people mistakenly think you can do the same thing with the Max. 😊

[@VVOPOL]

@@michaelgwagner oh cool! Will check it out! [thought, personally, I’m not into in-ear headphones, but still interesting stuff - the more you know)]

[@nunyabizfam106]

Do the airpods work better in cubase or logic?

[@michaelgwagner]

Logic, because the tracking is native there.

[@nicksaya]

i have directly connected to my network switch now with ethernet cable sounds better but doesn't sound like atmos. sounds stereo

[@nicksaya]

does your spatial setting on phone for earbuds have to be on? i can't turn it on so i assume not .

[@michaelgwagner]

For tye tracking, no.

[@nicksaya]

sound sounds nothing like when i listen to mp4 of song on my iphone

[@michaelgwagner]

Well, the spatial audio processing on an iPhone will give a different result, yes.

[@Sullys-eu]

#$%& first time i want a mac

[@michaelgwagner]

😂

[@cutupmusic]

Nxosc works on older Macs, so you could get a used and old Mac. It won't need that much performance to run that utility as long as the Bluetooth module is working.

[@MrPMOSullivan]

@@cutupmusic all software for pc. To much to reinvest. Sure they will come up with something