Imperator: Rome - Part 8 - The Phrygia Dilemma

[@BewareofTarps]

Jon. Why. Why don't you take Troizen. Why. You've had the ability to do so for four episodes at this point. It's literally free real estate. There is absolutely no reason not to take it. Just... take it. Please.

[@ManyATrueNerd]

The town is cursed. Any who step foot in it never return.

[@stephenkarambis6256]

@@ManyATrueNerd is the frogurt cursed too?

[@Starsmith2753]

@@ManyATrueNerd just make a save to see what happens

[@doubledouble4g379]

@@stephenkarambis6256 The Frogurt is ALWAYS cursed.

[@mobius1487]

Jon, take Troizen! It's free real estate!

[@frenchphil1248]

Yes plz

[@bigmjc85]

Every episode that he doesn't own Troizen, I die a bit inside...

[@jimball6337]

Jon is fully aware of how much you guys want him to take troizen and is bathing in your tears.

[@rogercoulombe3613]

Given his perception he may have forgotten it exists entirely.

[@renshalmans1596]

will John finaly take troizen this episode that is the real question

[@BewareofTarps]

Fast-forwarded to check and... nope! Of course not. He hasn't for four episodes at this point - why would he take the literally free real estate now?

[@xarm23]

So many time Troizen is just sitting in the middle of the screen, very much a different colour from the rest of the empire. WHY DO YOU DO THIS TO ME JOHN?

[@lostpupper2632]

Troizen is dead land, it can't be taken sadly.

[@jamesormondroyd1009]

Kelevren it can be colonised though

[@BewareofTarps]

@@lostpupper2632 ...huh? Troizen is not at all dead land. It's a formerly Spartan city that starved. It can be colonized.

[@camdenbarron2376]

you can't blame Spartans for making the stupid decision of attacking northern phrygia. They are ruled by a baby.

[@iliqiliev]

gugu, buy cities for for gold

[@agentlemanplays1311]

Couple of things: - As others are saying, if you move a navy into the sea square that the dashed line of a strait crossing covers, you should be able to blockade the strait so enemy armies cannot cross it. - If you wish in a war to give control of a city in a peace deal to a client state, then change the occupier of the city from you to the vassal, then request it in the peace deal, and it should say (for example) “Aetolian Epirus to Sparta” instead of “Aetolian Epirus to Achaea” - Please do colonise Troizen. It’s a nasty blot on the belly of an otherwise quite lovely Achaean Greece... - One of the automated naval options is “Hunt enemy fleets”. I’ve found it to be quite efficient, especially if combined with a few smaller fleets on the automated “Reconnaissance” setting.

[@couplingrhino]

All of the above +1, and gobble up literally every island your fleet can sail to! You are now the naval master of the entire world and it's time to cash in on that.

[@TheGrinningViking]

Jon goes into talks with Sparta's leader to trade them a city. 🥚 Sparta's King hands him a lollipop. 🍭 Jon: "I accept!" 🐣

[@tomohawk52]

The road to Hellas: paved with good intentions.

[@Nickunparalleled]

*Gets home. Puts Achea on the Big Screen. Life is good, Jon. Life is good.

[@kyler3035]

Jon I want you to know, that marketplaces are indeed worth it, they increase you civ lvl, which will help with pop growth, and in turn more taxes and trade routes.

[@DanieleCapellini]

Jon, for the love of God, BLOCK THE DAMN STRAITS WITH YOUR NAVY

[@Malovane77]

I imagine that was the dying words of the Spartan King in that battle, as he thought of the straits of Byzantion. But, it was worth it for Jon's reaction to happy baby king. And, yeah, he could have destroyed the entire Phrygian army in those islands if he used his navy properly.

[@ManyATrueNerd]

... Why? I WANT my enemies to cross the strait. It means they walk into the most brutal trap imaginable, with strait-crossing and hill penalties. The Macedonians were slaughtered BECAUSE I let them cross the strait.

[@Malovane77]

@@ManyATrueNerd If you block the straight after they come in, they can't leave, and their forces are destroyed. If you blocked at Byzantion, Sparta could have sieged all that territory for you. If you blocked the straits at the Eastern islands, Phrygia would have never taken them, and thus would not have reduced your war score. Otherwise, you could have led all their armies to their death in those islands by cutting their escape. In effect, you were in the perfect position to destroy Phrygia for good by releasing nations, taking large amounts of (hard to defend) territory, or at least get a few thousand more gold out of the arrangement, but you needed to actually lead them into "the most brutal trap imaginable", which is only accomplished through blocking straits.

[@GoErikTheRed]

@@ManyATrueNerd Jon. Jon. Jon. jon. jon... TROIZEN!!!

[@Uberpanik]

Now there is literally zero reasons for Rome to invade Greece - Jon already built all the roads!

[@josephdedrick9337]

but do they lead to rome?

[@robinblackwell8167]

As someone who's played CK2, all I can say is that the immediate, most appealing thing about this game is that troops move through ships automatically! :o

[@Foureye15]

Hmmm, a British man excitedly talking about his plans for conquest and expansion as well as drawing lines, that sounds oddly familiar somehow...

[@imrllykool]

Especially near the meditteranean

[@mudcrab3420]

Don't worry. He hasn't invented Flags yet.

[@DanieleCapellini]

Jon: “We need to think about it efficiently” Also Jon: sends troops to siege a harbor before sending troops to siege a fortress.

[@billysmith2166]

The History as recorded in Ellis during Spartan subjugation to Achaea... Achaea: I have city, you want it? Sparta: I have like, four dollars. Achea: No problem.

[@FLEMNMable]

Take Troizen, my OCD is going septic!

[@ThatDutchKaj]

"Sparta is currently being ruled by a baby." I think I laughed myself a sixpack

[@katofdarkcrest]

Any Chance of you colonizing Troizen to finish off owning southern Greece?

[@polishenglish8356]

Jon is becoming a real power and it is so great to see!

[@wackexecellent4962]

"Everyone else gets crucified. Goodbye!"

[@brekiel_scripts]

Can you rename an area? Because I think at this point Troizen should be renamed Trollzen.

[@Fyrebrand18]

THINGS TO DO ON THE NEXT EPISODE: 1. COLONIZE TROIZEN. LITERALLY FREE REAL ESTATE 2. CREATE ARKADIA WE NEED JON TO SEE THIS!

[@FinQuerilla]

Sparta is "Stratocratic Monarchy" Which means state is always ruled by the best martial experts. 56:24 Baby whit martial 1 ... well dammit... BUT IT'S A SPARTAN BABY GOD DAMMIT!!!

[@ruhruhmero1330]

I have homework to do, chores to finish, and sleep to catch up on yet here I am......

[@iain.sm.c]

I love how much naval warfare has taken place this series :D

[@sharkofjoy]

I love how Jon is gleeful about Rome's downfall. Despite having a history degree, he is delighted when events diverge wildly from reality.

[@elitephoenix4825]

Anaxippos Dionid the Greatest leader and general in Achaean history he made war with countries 2x bigger then Achaea and still won the wars

[@TripleEye_Josh]

Good old Hell Ass, one of my favorite vacation spots.

[@CaptainHightop]

Jon, you can prevent enemy armies from even crossing a strait just by having your navy in the sea zone with the strait.

[@rickbergolla4055]

remember you can make 1k to 2k siege stacks of light infantry so you can siege those lands with low supply, and occupy lands without having to seperate the main army, plus in a pinch you can just bring them in to support the main army

[@Ringlord7]

Macedon still being alive is making me nostalgic. In my Epirus game I crushed them long ago.

[@ManyATrueNerd]

Attacking them is kind of annoying, as it breaks all of my trade routes with Egypt, and I heavily depend on them for grain, dates, and papyrus.

[@Ringlord7]

Many A True Nerd In my game they were stupid enough to attack me. They had no help. *evil laugh*

[@brianmcgloughlin7799]

"I'm so sad that I have a truce with Achea." Yes Jon, it's just terrible that you have a truce with yourself.

[@jakesajdak967]

With Rome on the decline, perhaps all roads now lead to Elis?

[@The066Y]

Man, remember at the beginning when Jon was sandwiched between three major powers? Now he's about the same size as Macedon, Rome is being eaten from all sides, and Phrygia just exploded into civil war for the second time. Jon really is the perfect combination of skill and luck.

[@juliuszondag5515]

Jon knows exactly what he's doing with Troizen 😂

[@randomlyentertaining8287]

Jon - I might've built too much army. North Korea - Hold my beer.

[@epicurius1]

Jon, I'm sure you know this, but when it comes to claiming provinces in peace negotiations, you only need to take the capital to ask for the province. So, you didn't actually have to take, say, Melos or Thera in order to get the Aegean Islands. The only time you have to take all the land in the territory is when you're taking the territory that you're claiming in a Casus Belli. Your score doesn't start ticking up until all of the territory is claimed.

[@Kaarl_Mills]

I feel like Jon would actually be good at the naval aspect of EU4, if this war is anything to go by

[@NepeanWarrior]

Jon, you need to start Carpet Siegeing in these situations. It's a tactic from EU4, which the fort system in Imperator copies rather closely. Essentially once it is safe (i.e. army defeated and major forts taken), you take all the unfortified land super quick by splitting an army up into 1 or 2 thousand man units and send one to each spot.

[@MadTurnip]

Jon, not taking Troizen and pretending not to notice it: "Yes! Dance, puppets, dance!"

[@amoc8907]

"There is also one other very, very important thing" (48:40) TROIZEN IS WHAT YOU MEAN'T TO SAY!!!

[@terry7567]

I thoroughly enjoy you grand strategys. Even without the live action battles you make the ticking bars interesting. Have a great day.

[@MaskofPoesy]

I paused an Australian Physics major/part time goddess doing ASMR Maths to watch a video of you playing a game that I don't even personally enjoy Jon. That's how good your videos are.

[@cgunugc]

...Link?

[@MaskofPoesy]

@@cgunugc search for Tibees' Joy of Mathematics ^^

[@MrChaosBones]

+1 Except I'm reading history research papers on Egypt instead, still paused though. Jon scheming is probably the most entertaining thing since Whacky Racers and Megas XLR got taken off air.

[@MaskofPoesy]

@@MrChaosBones Right? Jon would've won the Game of Thrones :3 lol

[@OblivionOtaku]

I see the game lack features but the client state system seems smooth. Would love that in a TW game, vassals to do my bidding

[@MrGhosta5]

the strength of marketplaces is that they increase civilization level of a city. which increases citizen base happiness which increases their base research and commerce output.

[@Thebatman0808]

Thank you very much for the video Jon

[@JoshuaKevinPerry]

It's so Phrygian outside I nearly froze Midas off

[@dathaniel9403]

Now we wait to see how long it takes Jon to realize that half of his trade routes are unused.

[@alexdevlin4431]

Did Jon just say the greatest general of all time? That's Julianus Vatinius thank you very much!

[@mudcrab3420]

Apulia - Total War! Let's face it, no one wants to romance the three kingdoms, we what to recreate the glorious history of the Apulian Empire!

[@fuhrab]

Amazing episode. Thank you!

[@benjaminmiddaugh2729]

Macedon might not be as difficult as they look. They have a large army, yes, but no manpower or money. You can afford mercs and they can't, and your army isn't so small that the difference is insurmountable. This will be an interesting campaign to watch in the near future.

[@0Bonaparte]

Jon’s imperialist came out. We all gotta watch out for when Jon makes the call for us to invade the Aegean

[@YiannissB.]

Keep it up. This series's awesome

[@peanutbrainedbuffoon7913]

I think I know why sparta went up into phyrigia for no reason...... Maybe because there ruler is a FREAKING BABY

[@iPhoneeditor]

"Oh dear, it turn out Rome is pretty much reached beyond it's limit. It should never have attacked *B O I* "

[@jenniferkhatchaturian8319]

Jon: Silk is vital. We cannot lose this silk. Also Jon: I’m willing to sacrifice this silk for some marble, grain, and stone.

[@Auldwight]

Aaannd two silk, so jons decion to sacrifice the silk in Kos was sound, especially as the Aegeans are much easier to hold than an island next to phrygia

[@wolfqueen137]

Now I get why everyone was screaming about Troizen, omg, it's just sitting there, glaring at us, isn't it? Lol

[@harryryder9121]

Jon, you can use your ships to block the straight at patrai

[@robertleitch1050]

43:32 when you’re little sister steals your all your Lego

[@IAMABETTERGOD]

Jon creates history's first oneway system

[@cobaltcat9536]

Jon. Troizen. Let's go.

[@seksisirotinja4708]

John you could have used your boats to block access to the small islands that are connected to land via straits, maybe sending 5 ships per sea tile. I rembember doing this in EU IV but i don't know if it works in imperator rome.

[@leol6190]

Jon is love jon is life !!

[@anumeon]

Islands to the left of them, Islands to the right of them, Islands in front of them. Lightning and thunder. Stormed at with spear and shield, Boldly they walked and well, Into the jaws of nothing, walked the ten thousand. The charge of the light army onto the small islands.. :D (Free interpretation) also, a leader of the military faction named Aristoteles? Not sure his namesake would approve of that one. :D

[@justderp5713]

Take it to the Prhyg, Jon!!!

[@specialslothgamer2164]

not seen the video but happy that theres one and i know it going to be great

[@specialslothgamer2164]

as i guesed it a beytigul master piece great vid

[@quinkaufmann7496]

Jon, you should use Aetolia as a buffer state between you and Macedon and make it a client state, they have a ton of cohorts

[@jackoneill8169]

MATN "Sparta is now Ruled by a baby" Me "When did Matt get to be a caracter in Imperator Rome?"

[@jchen3]

That was a great ep!

[@OblivionOtaku]

Jon's Bizarre Adventure Part 3: Spartan Crusaders!

[@Kaarl_Mills]

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[@pawerejman9451]

*With calmest possible voice "Ye stoopid bastards!"

[@titanschannel585]

"You stupid roadless bastards", that is a new insult

[@jacktalbot9111]

Hey Jon love all ya videos keep doing what ya doing it’s really entertaining and also hilarious

[@maffa2849]

I want to be honerst John, i have the suspicion you are making look this game better than it really is. Either you are so good you make it look too easy, taking the correct decisions at the correct time, or i have the suspicion that without your commentary i'd never play this game even if it were free.

[@leontrotsky8505]

and so it was told out by the peoples that the great king was dead and his empire in ruins... 'sassy side glance at jon'

[@blarfmarph]

I'm pretty sure you can block straits in this game, you didn't have to lose that pop

[@ChrisStroud1]

"They might be able to beat off my mercenaries" - MATN 2019

[@pablorepetto2759]

Who would win? The full might of the Roman Empire, or one cheeky Boi?

[@Simonsavvi]

you can instantly pause the game by pressing space. Can help with being efficient in wars.

[@The_Laughing_Cavalier]

2:45 Nero eats popcorn while Rome burns, think that is how the story went...

[@couplingrhino]

As long as Phrygia has zero boats and you are the boatmaster of the seven seas, help yourself to all of Cyprus! What are they going to do about it?

[@amoc8907]

He went into a filter where virtually everything was green other than Troizen and then did not think, let alone, comment about it!

[@IRSmeger]

Just FYI John You block an enemy for. Using a straight if you park a ship in the same sea tile as the streight

[@guillet.8962]

TROIZEN, JON. TROIZEN.

[@nathanmoore8104]

MANY A TRUE NERD Do you know that if you what to get rid of Murk's and don't want to pay, just send them into a massive enemy army and a hat is the problem over.

[@MST3Killa]

Could... I wish doing so had a penalty though (because it's pretty easily exploitable). Maybe if you lose a whole stack then other mercs are less likely to offer services or their price goes significantly up (hazard pay)

[@Jon_the_Wizard]

TROIZEN, YOU FOOL! TROIZEN!!

[@Asawisemansaid]

In this Episode: I have a small heart attack waiting to find out if Jon remembered to set his trade routes back up off screen, or how long it will take him to remember to do so. Stay tuned!

[@HurricaneTheHunter]

Jon please conquer the entire map except Troizen. I want to see more tears over here than roads throughout the world at the time

[@ShackleYT]

we should get jon to play sims medieval. you know, let him get to know his subjects on a more personal level so that he won't send them into a meat grinder.

[@kurgisempyrion6125]

Zoticid was the family of the mercs you keep hiring.

[@FernandoSV]

this are my questions for ths amazing adventure: a) is he going to take Troizen? b) is he moving the capital to Athens?

[@MST3Killa]

Did Jon give military access to the very people attacking his Spartan allies?

[@FernandoMendoza-dw8nz]

Faction leader in charge of the senate's activities is considered corruption? We call that person majority leader in the US senate.

[@Slamdance24]

Not familiar with this game but is there any reason Troizen isn't being taken immediately?

[@french_bread4961]

Troizin! Troizin! Troizin!

[@Iplayzgaming]

How do you drag out content so long? It's honestly so impressive.

[@Iplayzgaming]

Also I played Massilia and got a 16 Martial and I freaked out it made me very happy.

[@Iplayzgaming]

Just realized you got a 16 martial this video as well lmao

[@khalidsalah7485]

just a heads up you can actually bribe enemy mercenaries to turn over to your side

[@watchedyew1027]

Please do more imperator rome

[@xarm23]

56:25 Click on Sparta Baby :D