Imprisoned Son Trial - FL v Timothy Ferriter - Day Two

[@michelewheel7150]

A child who feels unloved, un-included, treated differently will do anything for attention. Even if it's bad things. This boy wanted to be loved like his siblings and he never was. This is why i believe he acted out so badly. This does not mean he deserved to have punishment brought upon him like this. This whole case is heartbreaking. Watching that mom watch this makes my stomach sick she did nothing to protect him either.

[@DR-mq1vn]

I agree. Children act out for attention and because they aren't receiving love and acceptance at home. Then putting him in the garage in the box makes it even worse!

[@ItsSierraaaa]

100% agree with this. If they got him when he was a baby then in my opinion any of his behavioral issues are more than likely caused by their treatment of him. Poor Ronan. I hope he gets Justice for what these people put him through.

[@AlexaCBrown]

Exactly

[@OneLuckyLady13]

Do your research! Children with separation/abandonment issues which develop into Behavior Personality Disorder (BPD), are CAUSED by the abandonment of the BIOLOGICAL parents. NOT the LOVING family that came to love & raise him. This comes from VERY young age. First things babies learn are EMOTIONS/EXPRESSIONS/FEELINGS. When those get disrupted (abandonment/neglect), then the child will more than likely have issues with: insecurity, trust & AUTHORITY (disregard for). Last time I checked, this considered how most criminals are developed. Seems to me, these parents were at their wits ends TRYING to keep that from happening by trying to handle themselves.

[@amandawesterfield7447]

I disagree. There are many children born with mental disorders that go undetected until the child becomes old enough for the disorder to present it's self. So saying children act out because they feel unloved or unwanted or uninvolved is 100% in accurate.

[@thejurydoctor6097]

I asked my mother a developmental psychologist about this case, she said the escalation of negative behavior exhibited is a direct result of his treatment and that the “parents” are lucky the boy didn’t kill himself or someone else. These parents are too proud to see their faults which makes them dangerous to children.

[@ashleypg1708]

Yep and the state's psychiatrist agrees.

[@lindalucia6334]

Spot on

[@amandastawicki3594]

Exactly

[@CobaltBlue835]

exactly

[@caterinawilliams998]

Agree, I would say arrogant rather than proud

[@bonniecreighton4163]

As a Registered Nurse (now retired after 47 years in my profession)...I find it horrifying to learn that these "parents" thought it was perfectly "ok" to lock this child up in a box with absolutely NO means of calling for help if he truly had some kind of life threatening emergency!!! They knew absolutely nothing about this adopted child's biological family's health history. It is not a rare occurrence for people to drop dead in their tracks from an unknown but lurking medical condition...it happens to adults and CHILDREN all the time. It goes without saying that everything else about this imprisonment is disgusting as well.

[@TracyLSingh-RN-JD]

I am a nurse, too and I totally agree. Emergency with no escape was my first thought. They have no idea just how lucky they were. This was a disaster waiting to happen. I wdn’t put my dog in a room like that.

[@JJ-ls4ej]

Yes, and that is aside from the fact that it is an inhumane treatment of a human being, especially a child. Some people should ever be allowed to have children.

[@AlexaCBrown]

Bonnie, these words 🙏💝🙏

[@tchili1]

Am appalled by what they did to this poor boy. We treat our pets better! He could have suffered heat stroke and no one would have known. Also, can't imagine being locked up without any windows. That would make anyone be aggressive and distrusting. Really sadistic behavior.

[@sallycinnamon5370]

@@tchili1When I heard the child I was like…this sounds like how people will sometimes treat their working dogs…not even their pets. They will sometimes have a kennel separate from the family except when they are working.

[@dholdt1]

The fact he said they made a “mistake” says he still wants to be loved. That one sentence broke me.

[@HeavenlyPresley-Tonya]

Yes broke my heart too - I have CPTSD From My Parents abandoning Me & My Younger Sibs I was 10 Brother was 9 Sister 6 -- We had no food but at school breakfast and lunch NO Supper No Food on weekends - No Electricity or water etc but My Grandmother Mom's Mom did pay it sometimes -- We had to use a BOX To relive ourselves -- It's so painful to even talk about This is so Triggering -- I SO Want to HUG THIS KID!!!!! Somehow My Mom who randomly came home - Made the family believe she was home watching us after work -- BS - She stayed in the bars!!!! age 11 I told My Other Grandmother everything -- and She took me in but MY MOM TOLD HER SHE WANTED CHILD SUPPORT FOR ME - FROM MY DAD ( DAD'S MOTHER ) OR SHE WOULD NOT AGREE TO LET ME LIVE WITH HER -- SO SHE MADE SURE MY DAD PAID ALL THE CHILD SUPPORT -- DAD WAS NEVER IN MY LIFE AND MY GRANDMOTHER HIS MOM TOLD HIM YOU NEED TO BE IN YOUR KIDS LIVES -- OVER AND OVER -- ANYWAY SHE SPOILED ME LOVED ME UNCONDITIONALLY ---- RIP MEME

[@CorettaJG]

Heartbreaking. 💔

[@mmarks1154]

So heart breaking! A perental mistake is done 1 time, and then your conscience kicks in. These parents did this child this way long term and while living in 2 states. This child's comment showed that he was being merciful towards his parents and wants others to be merciful also. And while the child said that merciful comment on the stand, the dad had absolutely zero emotion on his face when he heard his son say that. These parents are narcissistic monsters with zero conscience.

[@Charhartman1988]

I immediately thought Stockholm Syndrome @@HeavenlyPresley-Tonya

[@Swedifornian]

It doesn’t matter how much he acted out. You can’t lock up a child in a homemade prison cell. Or any room for that matter. Insanity.

[@mermaid-n-a-wineglass3689]

The male defense attorney is absolutely horrible. He was awful with his cross examining of FF yesterday and today is no exception.

[@Khealey84]

YESSS - Judge was even like “Sustained, move along this is inappropriate”

[@viabaking7626]

I agree!!!

[@mochabrown9097]

I thought from the first day that the state team ladies were stronger than the defense team. I think the defense team just CANNOT defend him.

[@DarlinReal]

He's strengthening the defense case. That's a good thing because Tim brought this situation on himself by not accepting the plea deal thus putting the kids in a situation to speak their truth.

[@emmimus]

I’m amazed at the hours of no emotion at all on this defendants face, it says a lot about him.

[@margaretlumley1648]

Oh; there's emotion. Concern and worry FOR HIMSELF

[@tawnacampbell2978]

Monster!!!!

[@gwenfrankowski8324]

I agree. His daughter is upset and he is stoic but the man behind him is crying.

[@emmimus]

@@gwenfrankowski8324 That’s what I noticed aswell and not just in this video but all of them. While others have natural snd appropriate emotions/reaktions he is cold, unmoved and takes notes… remarkable.

[@thejurydoctor6097]

The jury sees that too!

[@susanlewis9351]

His wife has no business being I that courtroom ! They should have been tried together. She hears the whole case getting info. For her own case

[@DR-mq1vn]

She could hear it on the internet if she wasn't in court.

[@geoffpoole483]

@@DR-mq1vn Good point, but it does seem odd that they're being tried separately.

[@belleslettres354]

She is absolutely allowed in the courtroom. She is not a witness and she is allowed to know all evidence against her, etc.

[@Babytalk1963]

So let me get this straight.. this monster would rather plead not guilty and make his children be put in the stand and humiliated into thinking it's their fault 🤬 he could plead guilty and save them all

[@happywednesday6741]

Genuine question, did you watch the whole video? The older boy admitted to doing 'experiments' with alcohol on his younger 4 year old brother...

[@googleuser2226]

@@happywednesday6741and saying the point was to hurt him!!

[@happywednesday6741]

@@googleuser2226 they haven't watched the trial, their logic is flawed anyway because it could just as easily be said why didn't the boy hand himself in and plead guilty so his parents did have to go the lengths they did...so it's bad logic and they havent even watched the trial its obvious

[@RealTigress]

@@happywednesday6741 it doesn’t matter what he did, you can’t lock someone up like that, you could have the kid committed, evaluated, medicated, arrested, anything but torture and not even a toilet geez common sense. They could’ve relinquished their rights and let the state take him

[@happywednesday6741]

@@RealTigress well meaning opinion but what you said makes no logical sense. It matters fully what someone has done...in the context of you calling that person a monster...no? The legal standard is a whole other argument...and clearly some lawyers thought it met that standard hence it being in court...I'm not arguing against them, I'm arguing against this commenter on KZbin who clearly hasnt watched the trial and making strident opinions

[@LMLETP15]

They shout and curse at this child for grabbing a snack or piece of chocolate…It’s not stealing when it’s inside your own house! They were withholding food from this poor child & he was just doing his best to survive that awful situation. I hope the mom gets charged too! How horrible.

[@emilyl6400]

Exactly! The mom is also charged in her own case.

[@MadeOfQuestions]

They severed the cases they're both being charged, just separate

[@TrellWest]

@@MadeOfQuestionsno clue why she’s allowed to see the evidence and be present before her own trial!

[@cindystapleton6743]

And he keeps looking at his cell phone really strange

[@bchbum3802]

They are probably communicating via text

[@barbarafann8133]

Absolutely unthinkable that a parent would put a child through this questioning in a effort to keep themself from being locked in an 8x8 cell yet they were quick to place their child in one. How dare they put their child in a position to have to do this!!!!

[@Anlidu]

Agree - it’s absolutely disgusting. Calling out these things he did…. Kids do these things all the time. But they’re not locked in 8x8 cages. They’re sent to residential centers where they receive medication and therapy. It’s appalling hearing that lady question Ronan about these things - essentially gaslighting him into thinking he deserved what he got. Sickening.

[@debadamsuksouthwales6766]

I hope both parents are put in their cell for a longtime and hopefully learn from it I worry about all the children and the effect it has on them

[@Ashley__Rose]

Not just put 1 kid on the stand but 2! And I’m sure they would’ve put all 4 up there had the younger 2 been old enough! SMH

[@robertcomtois2074]

Prisoners get treated better than this child though. Even in the worst prisons inmates have access to a toliet

[@glendabpospisil3851]

His father is showing anger on his face as his son testifies.

[@petronellabowen2560]

What is really sad about this case is that the adopted son has no biological family members sitting in that courtroom giving him support 😢 😔, it looks asif all those people behind the defender are the defenders family. The victim only has the state supporting him, he never asked to be adopted by the defender, he had no choice but to go with them and they are the reason that he " so called became a difficult child " they set the standards for his growing up, they are the ones that taught him everything.... why did they punish him for their short comings... they should have been the ones put in that box 📦

[@MizDBMe]

It is sad. Every bit of this is…. Idk the words, even to describe it… it’s just sad.

[@2manyjules]

I agree I wonder if he only became "difficult" because there was different parenting with him in contrast to his siblings from the beginning and it then became a cycle... he felt unloved so he acted up... got punished... felt unloved... acted up and so on

[@laurav3779]

well said

[@kerilyndillman9778]

❤❤❤

[@DR-mq1vn]

@@2manyjules I think he definitely felt unloved, so he acted out.

[@redds7777]

No excuse for locking up a child in a room with full control over him. He was held hostage.

[@memomfv]

I agree 100%

[@peggymary]

The threat of home schooling was where they were heading and would have been the beginning of the literal end of this kid's life. I think he instinctually knew his parents were completely off the rails and that his life was in danger and so he took off. Thank god the police followed through!!! and that Ronan is articulate and bright enough to speak about what happened to him!!

[@googleuser2226]

😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

[@GoogleUser-wy2vv]

That's right homeschooling loomed ahead..... and I'm with you thank God the police did the right thing this time.. and paid attention a lot of times they don't... after they see where the parents live

[@MrGrumpyGills]

Literal? You don't know what that word means.

[@joycehughes4522]

I would not treat my Dogs like that

[@petrasmith2346]

I agree and love dogs, but what would we do if a dog is dangerous and unpredictable?

[@ivafrosh7675]

​@petrasmith2346 get him help because it is a product of his past or current environment. Not everyone should be a parent.

[@SwyTashee]

This kid is so smart. It’s a shame he was adopted by these monsters with a savior complex. I worked with hundreds of kids through my career and he was seeking attention even negative attention because that was the only time he got attention. Smh. It’s so sad. And this defense lawyer is really pushing it with the tone with this 16 year old boy. 😡

[@stayhydrated8321]

Everyone making excuses for these monsters must have missed the part where the child said, before his box was built he was kept inside the monster’s closet.

[@DarlinReal]

That's where he said he was when he overheard Tim telling the contractor about building the box.

[@michellemoody6727]

THIS

[@makamurphy]

I cannot believe this friggin so called Dad is fighting the allegations of what he's done to this poor child, regardless!!! You CANT LOCK UP A CHILD!!!

[@mayracruzortega6316]

A certain family member of mine who is now an adult was very much like the victim in this case. He stole (a lot), he destroyed property (of many in the family and outside of our family). He destroyed grandmas insulin, he was a terror. He did worse things to his cousins. Yet, not one of us ever thought to lock him up in a box! He was not beaten and he was fed to his heart’s content. It was difficult to have to put up with his behavior. Thankfully he is now a productive adult who has never been in trouble with the law and we have our peace and our property in one piece!

[@sravd6079]

I am sorry about that,but from what heard in this case thus far the victim did nothing aggressive , there are some brawls here and there, nothing that warranted him to be suspended , his behavior started changing or aggravated around the time he was put in the box back in arizona .

[@TheBigIsland-20]

Ditto.

[@CobaltBlue835]

and let me guess........HE WAS ALSO LOCKED IN A SMALL ENCLOSURE.........I think you need to be investigated too........

[@MrGrumpyGills]

@@sravd6079 There was no "box" in Arizona, he had his own room there. The "box" was in Florida. And yes, he was aggressive in school.

[@Deericus4272]

​@@MrGrumpyGills Sorry, but you are very wrong. There was a box for him in Arizona. The box in Florida was built after they moved. Quickly after they moved. Does your brain not register that the reason this child acted out was because he was treated horribly at home. That so called 'Dad' swore at him very aggressively and said the 'F' word a LOT. You must be a family member or friend. No one else would respond the way you did. I guess this is the way you treat your children.

[@msinclair5603]

I didn't realize that he was adopted as a toddler and not as preteen. What made them treat him like this is pure evil. And where were the grandparents, aunt and uncles in all of this? My heart and prayers go out to this young man.

[@penelopepiper8342]

RT was 17 months old when he was adopted. He seems like a very smart child and he’s remarkably self aware and honest with his answers. Poor thing being treated so badly by his parents

[@nettiea9384]

He’s got a cross bracelet… really? Is that Christian to treat a child like that for his entire childhood? He was 11 had a box in Az… 14 box in Fla. disgraceful

[@sravd6079]

My assumption is it could be a image he wants to portray to the jury, or he could actually be religious. But in most cases i have observed that the defendant usually dresses in a more demure way to give an impression to the jury, for example Jodi arias, she dressed the way she did , to give the jury that she is a church/mormon girl, and when the prosecution’s psychologist was on stand, the next day she tried to micmick her appearance. It was interesting

[@barbaragroh8514]

Religious folk like capital punishment for the most vulnerable as well

[@glendabpospisil3851]

@@barbaragroh8514spare the rod, spoil the child. 😢

[@jennifercockfield3218]

@@barbaragroh8514 “Capital” punishment, or “corporal” punishment?

[@geoffpoole483]

@@jennifercockfield3218 Both. A Catholic priest was sitting with the defendant's family while the victim was testifying.

[@williamfagan1479]

What i cant understand about this trial is ,why is the wife allowed to sit in the courtroom when she is already been charged with the same offences as her husband,and also she is on a computer and phone as well.

[@mariav1045]

Because she isn’t testifying for either side and is just like any other citizen attending. There is no legal reason for her not to be allowed into a public trial. If there is a court order that prevents her from being within a certain distance to one of the children then she would have had to leave during their testimony but that doesn’t appear to be the case. I’m sure Tim’s attorney wanted her there to support her husband as it could look bad to the jury for her not to be there. They are still married after all and both insist they are innocent. I don’t feel this way. I’m just saying they are within their rights.

[@deb-77d]

I thought only press were allowed laptops and phones out in a court room.

[@Ms2unique4u]

Also, if you’re legally married to someone, you can’t be forced to testify against them and the only reason she could not be in the courtroom is if she was a witness in this trial and as I stated, she can’t be a witness.

[@foreverblessed879]

It’s kind of funny that his jail cell will be the same size as his sons room, with a small bed, a small desk, a toilet and locks on the door so he can’t get out. His room will be searched at times to see if he has any contraband and will be yelled at if he has anything he’s not suppose to. Karma is just amazing isn’t it?

[@michellenatishak466]

I really hope your right. Horrible people.

[@KZ87_13]

Only difference is that this “dad” will have access to indoor plumbing while his son did not! He should have his lights and toilet access taken away so that it’s fair!

[@cynthiah.3015]

Lock 🔐 these parents up in a box with a bucket 🪣 for as long as the boy was in there

[@DorisWebber-bo2mq]

Without food and punished for getting sweets. Heck prisoners have more rights and respect than this kid

[@Sandman1977-d9y]

Treat a human like an animal and they will behave like one. So many other options in seeking help... Even if they handed him over to child services and said he cannot stay in our home anymore - that would be acceptable if his behaviour was so worrisome x

[@angelblue7779]

Why are cellphones and computers allowed in the gallery? Why is wife allowed to listen in on his trial? (If that is his wife) Aren’t they worried about exposing the jury with photos?

[@gillsharpe7603]

Was wondering the same. He was on a phone yesterday 😮

[@ericasopko]

I thought they were being tried together

[@redds7777]

@@ericasopkoI would think she would be sitting at table with attorneys if she were.. maybe they wanted separate trials. Just a thought.

[@deemcnalley8677]

One thing that really stuck with me from the audio we heard (aside from all the swearing etc) was them saying that he "stole" cookies. If my children ever grabbed a snack i never would have considered it stealing! Was it theft if his siblings grabbed something to eat? Im dumbfounded!

[@nicolewashington829]

We grabbed snacks as a kid. My kids do it now and their grown 🥱

[@javieratoledo9262]

I was put on a diet and was accused of stealing food. Clear path to eating disorder.

[@AlexaCBrown]

Let's remember, however, he was isolated and confined. In freedom, one would not need to... wouldn't anyone, any being that is starved, go to measures of eating anything they could get their hands on?!? This is horrific. Control freaks and as far as their child they chose to adopt, the parents have lack of any love.

[@shikhalemuel6802]

But itis stealing. When you are told you can't have something and you take it it is stealing. If they took your wedding ring off your dresser would that be stealing? YES!

[@deemcnalley8677]

@@shikhalemuel6802 so if I buy my child a video game for his birthday, a gift, and then take it away as punishment for bad behavior, is that stealing?

[@oldrvr]

I love that this judge is firm and no nonsense!

[@twistedtaurus1979]

Are you kidding me? The defenses strategy is trying to blame this kid for this grown man locking him in a room in the garage, that is vile!!!

[@susanleblanc3944]

I want to hear medical experts on kids behaviour

[@michah321]

Why are they allowed to interrogate this kid like he's a defendant.

[@AlexaCBrown]

She... She is a witness... It is his sister, the young boy, who was living his life in a 8' x 8' "room, amongst other atrocities.

[@michah321]

​​@@AlexaCBrownyeah the defense interrogated the victim like he was the defendant. I wasn't talking about the sister

[@belleslettres354]

@@michah321I don’t think they were too hard on her.

[@michah321]

@@belleslettres354 I was talking about the victim

[@ukguy]

​@@AlexaCBrownhe is not a she

[@ThatRedhedd]

🤘🏻🗯 HUGE PROPS to the EDITOR who did the bleeps!!! I commented the other day on another case stream that had presumably been bleeped by a newbie and was chopped to bits. THIS, though, flows so seamlessly, it's honestly so appreciated and makes it so easy to listen to!

[@cecillec2331]

A couple of sociopaths for parents. Poor kid.

[@peppergod1]

Hearing this young man's forgiveness for these horrible people. It shows he is not a bad kid!!! Being locked up as a child had to be torture 😢 My heart goes out to this young man!!

[@mkm6458]

He might still be afraid of the parents and said he forgives them for that reason.

[@glennaashley]

@@mkm6458that’s what I think too.

[@alidadebruyn3560]

He has shown to be the better person

[@nettiea9384]

I’ll bet his defense lawyer told him he shda taken The deal … but Mr arrogant wants to create new law! There r circumstances where it’s okay to imprison a child! What he did is nobody’s business? Really? This cannot b tolerated. My heart breaks for this kid and his lost childhood. He is a young man now… at 14 he became brave enough to runaway and report them

[@sravd6079]

I agree on that part that he was brave to run away, imagine if he never ran away this would have not seen the day of the light

[@viabaking7626]

Could be a true narcissist. He must think he did nothing wrong.and surely the jury will think that

[@poppy5351]

This poor kid…..regardless of any medical condition, or bad behaviour, you cannot lock your child in an 8x8 box, locked in for hours on end, with a bucket as a bathroom…..he was 14 !!!!! It’s just awful….lock the parents in a room with a bucket as bathroom for hours on end, I’m guessing their behaviour would get pretty bad too……

[@peggymary]

That father parents!! smiling as defense lawyer picks the kid apart!!! He's been imprisoned and enslaved most of his childhood!! So incredibly sad!!! I hope they go to jail for a long time and I hope this kid heals because someday he's going to realize how horrific his childhood has been.

[@kristamaki7379]

That kid sounds like a nightmare

[@theresa3]

This sister is going far in life. Honest and not intimidated by trying to confusing her! Plus this Judge is good and just⚖️

[@nancyjackson8690]

Stockholm syndrome has ahold of the young man. Saying they just made a mistake and we should forgive and move on. How sad. He'll never have a normal life.

[@DorisWebber-bo2mq]

He will never be able to appropriately have a attachment with someone. They destroyed him

[@amajax24]

I love how the daughter is essentially saying, "Objection... Foundation."

[@mermaid-n-a-wineglass3689]

The male defense attorney must of just received his license. He is horrible.

[@crimewithlaboricua]

These parents are a SORRY excuse for parents! Stop being excusing the parents behavior!! This was a kid who yes did lie and do things he shouldn’t have but that will NEVER justify locking him up in his room like a PRISONER. Treating all of the other kids like they were less than - if he was too much they had every right to relinquish their rights. They didn’t. Instead they belittled him and the defense is sickening.

[@sharonholland1171]

we dont know how he was treated by his parents before the age of 11 when they started locking him up. Perhaps he was treated differently and poorly leading to these behaviours. A child will behave negatively if it's a way of getting some sort of attention and acknowledgement from his carers. Negative attention is better than none. I would like to know how he has been behaviour wise since being removed from his parents and the box. I hope these parents are both given lengthy prison sentences and never have care of any other child again. Adult prisoners dont get treated this badly.

[@Kscomelli]

My stepson who I met at 2 acted out in his teens. He even said to his counselor that he is mad at my husband and I and he didn't know why. He had 4 parents who loved and supported him and he struggled still because he was in a broken family situation (biological parents married to other people). In his situation, the parents never dated or married. He felt confused. He lashed out by disrespecting house rules periodically. We worked with him and loved him through. He is doing well now and appreciates all of his parents.

[@barbaragroh8514]

I hope they prosecute them in Arizona as well.

[@Jennabug0316]

I do too!

[@Khealey84]

This is so heartbreaking, he just wanted their love and attention 😢

[@skyebreanne3247]

It sounds like that still all he wants. I hope he realizes that this was more than just a mistake on their part and that it had nothing to do with him 💔💔

[@barbarafann8133]

The only time the defendent smiles and portrays himself as being kind and nice is when the jury is entering or leaving the room. Watch how quickly his demeanor changes the second he sits down.

[@deb-77d]

Also I thought I saw him praying then looked around as if to see if he was being watched then closed his eyes again. 🤔.

[@brendamckinley3036]

I thought I commented on this day but it must be the day before Simply put I look at this man and I see nothing. He is dead inside. I guarantee even sitting in court he still believes he hasn't done anything wrong. It reminds me of A Child Called It with the philosophy when one child is picked who takes the anger and frustration and stress of the parents onto himself. They should have spared these children the humiliation of a court case and taken their punishment

[@kaylahammonds4556]

The fact the gallery has tears and he doesn’t shows a lot !

[@NanaNurse83]

Why is Timothy allowed to talk to his wife and walk around the court room during trial?

[@brendaford5542]

I’m assuming because she is out on bail and her lawsuit is not connected to his? 🤷‍♀️

[@melstar83]

They’re both out on bail.

[@atticus-iz7iw]

Hello! Does anyone know where all the children are now? With relatives, or foster homes, or adoptive homes?

[@melstar83]

@@atticus-iz7iw the boy is in states custody, the other three children were taken as well, but not sure where they are.

[@atticus-iz7iw]

@@melstar83 Thank you so much for taking the time to let me know. I am very grateful for that. I sincerely hope wherever they are, they are loved and very well taken care of, and never returned to these co-defendants. I truly don’t believe they should have had children.

[@janellesilver]

The irony in this is that Timothy will most likely spend the rest of his life in an 8x8 cell. Best wishes for your future RF!

[@omato637]

Defendant is in big trouble. The lawyers are terrible.

[@margaretlumley1648]

Objection, your Honour! They are making our defendant look like a terrible parent!

[@massiberenjian8557]

I am glad😮

[@mikeandmals]

WHO talks to a kid like that?! Omg…. I can’t even begin to imagine talking to my kids like that. He’s supposed to be a member of that family…..he was sneaking chocolate NOT stealing it. The way they demean and mock him… it’s horrible. It’s no wonder his behavior continued to worsen. These people make me sick!

[@nicolewashington829]

The man behind the dad had to stop himself 😭 from crying. The arrogant look of Tim is sick

[@peggymary]

I wonder if he's related to either of them- he's definitely upset

[@DarlinReal]

He literally cried.

[@petuniab.222]

I think its very interesting that she calls her parents Tim and Tracy not mom and dad

[@ZCM-]

I like the look of this judge - stern, strict, wise and fair. He reminds me of my Grandpa who was all of those things and more!

[@Classicamantiq]

He's taking NO nonsense from the defence

[@brandyurban9415]

I hope they give these parents the harshest sentences. How disgusting and despicable how they treated their son!!!

[@truethat774]

It’s absolutely appalling that this attorney makes it seem like everything was his own fault. How he was treated by both his parents is unforgivable. I hope he finds some kind of peace and sense of love as he moves through the rest of his life. He deserves some real happiness.

[@carolekrug6027]

The sheer arrogance of these people just sitting there with no reaction is appalling. Totally unfit to be parents of any child, let alone an adopted child. When you have a child with behavior issues, you take them to specialists until you have a diagnosis and treatment plan in place.

[@Lauramendoza-di1kd]

@,carolekrug6027 the sister was never afraid of him so that tells you the parents hated him were cruel and evil

[@shikhalemuel6802]

The tears were there for years.

[@catalinacurio]

This father thinks he’s a military sergeant, he’s cold…

[@SuesWainwright]

Very

[@MizDBMe]

Agreed,

[@cheriamour2429]

It irks me to see him sitting there in his suit and slicked back hair, all high and mighty and pleading NOT GUILTY, when he should be in the orange jumpsuit.

[@petrasmith2346]

I also thought the parents were crazy until I realized that the child is a danger to himself and others. We heard lots of cases like these where kids eventually killed either their parents, siblings, or someone else.

[@reginewelch8052]

Not an excuse for that disgrace of a man, Tim, but either he is one cold, frozen hearted abuser OR he was treated very badly growing up for him to think that building a worse than prison cell is better than sending the kid to therapy. He wasn't even that bad of a kid.

[@franny607]

I find it disgusting that they trying to confuse the witness and try to make her a lier and the father is letting them

[@keishacarter1259]

Of course he's showing he's true colors of his " adopted" children He Nvr loved them at all .

[@lizaliza3756]

That guy with the small red glasses needs to go into a 8×8 box & Feel what that boy went through!!!!

[@DragonsJRS]

My stepson did most of the things this boy did. Stealing credit cards, fighting, stealing a car, breaking into houses, jail breaking tech, stealing the snowmobile, money, my infant daughters piggy bank… I could go on and on. It wasn’t fun dealing with the various behaviours/crimes BUT we never locked him in a room or a shed or anywhere else. I dont believe in corporal punishment so yeah we never beat him either. We dealt with it. He is now a grown man with a family and career. Some kids take more time, some kids are so easy you wonder if you’re missing something. This child did nothing that 100s or 1000s of kids do. Locking up a child/adult is called SOLITARY CONFINEMENT. What the parents did is a CRIME. BTW the people on this thread that approve of the parents conduct, how bout we lock u up and see how u feel. You wouldn’t last a day in the pitch dark garage with no airflow, in the heat of Florida or Arizona.

[@KZ87_13]

Exactly! We are dealing with most of the things you mentioned as well as what this boy did and our son is not locked up in a “box”. Even prisoners in solitary confinement have access to indoor plumbing!! This is just too cruel!

[@heatherm2428]

The defense attorney is so shady. She is treating this boy as the criminal.

[@googleuser2226]

He literally is a criminal.

[@heatherm2428]

@@googleuser2226 He is the victim in this case and not the one on trial.

[@tiffanyclark-grove1989]

imagine the temerity of putting a 10 yr old victim’s little life on trial. astonishing

[@nettiea9384]

Why all the testimony about the playdates… it doesn’t erase the bad deeds in two states! He was in a box in AZ also

[@theoriginaleb9616]

2:16:00 I love how the defendant nods in agreement that RJ was the one to rip down the posters. He appears to be pleased that he is relieved of that one tiny accusation, as if the rest of his behavior doesn’t matter. I have no doubt that this child had/has behavioral and emotional issues. That is clearly demonstrated by the facts that he said he was apathetic to the proceedings, and his parents simply made a mistake and should not be punished. They have gaslighted this child. He very possibly has a reactive attachment disorder stemming from infancy. However, I also have no doubt that his adoptive parents exacerbated RJ’s emotional issues. They wanted to lock him away and not deal with it properly. They should absolutely be held accountable for the damage they’ve caused. His siblings are obviously affected by their behavior as well, by simply witnessing the treatment their brother endured.

[@thejurydoctor6097]

Mind you in that video he tears down the remaining posters, slams stuff and screams repeatedly how he doesn’t have time to deal with this ish… like a child, and wonders why the boy is messed up… monkey see monkey do and these parents created this boy and did nothing to help him get better albeit their attempt at virtue signaling while simultaneously victim blaming. They were also Doctor shopping looking for someone to support the treatment.

[@polishgrlinvegas]

They TORTURED him.. and there are still people sitting behind the defendant, supporting him?!?!

[@paisleydreamzz]

this trial, more specifically these videos of how they treated Their son should be reason enough for CPS to never ever give them their other children back.

[@karincelliers9128]

Daughter says at 1:06 that she was afraid father would accidentally kill brother. Imagine living with that level of violence. These monsters should never have access to vulnerable people or animals.

[@mkm6458]

Poor little girl having to testify, parents need to be locked up, life without parole

[@RoniShawn]

Seeing a grown man cry? That just gets my heart in a certain place. He must be an uncle or cousin to the kids.

[@glendabpospisil3851]

Oh that was so sad. I think he was there to support the daughter as he left after her testimony. I would say related.

[@Classicamantiq]

My heart is made of stone due to the way I was raised but these cases kill me too. Nothing worse than helpless victims, especially when you were one.

[@DarlinReal]

​@@Classicamantiqlove and strength to you. I truly feel you because I had a tough life growing up too. But I am the reverse. I used to cry easily. I trained myself to be a bit more tough. I also had a lot of hate. I counseled myself to love instead because it's takes less effort. However, there was both an up and down side to the latter. The down side was that beneficiaries took my kindness took it as being weak on my part. The up side is that I learned to say NO. Fn NO! Cheers.

[@DarlinReal]

Oh, you saw him too.

[@donnyeisenbacher6896]

I could not even hear/understand 50% of the witness testimony in the other court room. No way anyone could. It was just unbelievable no one fixed this.

[@stevenbest6923]

Stone cold face, while others around him weep.

[@redds7777]

Wow, did he go to Jodi Hilidebrands focus group ? If he was offered a plea deal for 2 years I think he should have taken it. I get the feeling the Parents are going to get a taste of a 8 foot room very soon.

[@LibertyStation92106]

That plea deal offer was INSANE. Never should have occurred. Looks like daddy dearest may be a malignant narcissist AND a sociopath. Narcissists aren't generally going to take a plea offering. In this case, sure glad he didn't. A-hole.

[@victoriahammond9061]

That mother sounds like she's instigating and enjoying all this.

[@truecrime_and_everything_else]

If it had a working toilet at least.... but the bucket element and the lock takes his treatment to the next level of cruel and unusual punishment...

[@ashleypg1708]

0 love in Tim's eyes while his kids take the stand. Just deep sighs.

[@josiediaz6452]

What i don't understand is why people bother to adopt if they are not going to treat them as it should be.

[@dianapaxton6373]

Why is the defendant walking all around the courtroom?

[@nettiea9384]

Why is this lawyer dragging this lil girl in this mess. How is this relevant? I feel so bad for his sister!

[@AlexaCBrown]

For justice. She is a witness to the crimes in their home, and, in her brothers life.

[@ashleypg1708]

She should be proud of herself. She did SO WELL.

[@SimplyLolly]

2:19:05 At *THEIR* house?!? Wasn’t that HIS house also?? That one little word says a lot to me about how they saw things…🙁

[@EmilyE55]

Making sure the priest is behind him 🙄

[@petrasmith2346]

The questions he is asking her is not going anywhere. He is also trying to lead her into saying things. 😢

[@Lauramendoza-di1kd]

@petrasmith2346 he is harassing poor girl it makes him a bully jurors are not going to like that

[@EmpathsProvidence2]

This judge is excellent. Kudos.

[@bchbum3802]

Im thankful this monster is having to sit there and watch his own evidence played against him!

[@dinacox1971]

I must say that this judge is trying very hard to be fair but I think that he is as disgusted as we are.

[@stayhydrated8321]

He is being fair, but he is holding those inexperienced ridiculous attorneys to the law!

[@GGHM74]

What if there was a fire overnight. How would they have justified the poor kid dying in the fire because he couldn't escape?

[@libertyna933]

Right my neighbor's garage caught on fire from a battery in a tool .

[@Julio-be3tt]

Should have taken plea deal

[@reginewelch8052]

YUP! Timmy's going to jail. I think 30 yrs is too long but at least as long as all the years the poor boy was locked away and then a few extra to grow on.

[@Nadz999]

Does anyone else feel this child may have a psychological illness such as Aspergers that is behind his behaviour? He is a very smart kid but is so matter of fact about the acts he carried out. He needed psychological help.....instead he was locked in a box which caused further psychological damage. I have no sympathy for these poor excuses for parents. This poor child needed help not punishment 😡

[@belleslettres354]

Yeah, I felt that he was definitely on the spectrum. They could’ve signed him up to learn coding, etc. The dad was narcissistic.

[@finesunshine]

The child seems very smart & advanced for his age. I wish they would’ve found ways to support his intelligence or differences, instead of locking him away to “restrain” him.

[@Danger_Zone_007]

The Dad has the composure of the main character in, "American Psycho"

[@DragonsJRS]

1:07:48 the guy sitting behind the defendant is almost in tears from the sisters testimony. The stark difference in expression from the defendant and the man sitting behind him is unreal. Tim has no emotion what so ever. I don’t believe he cared about the adopted children at all. I guess the only reason they wanted the kids was for someone to clean the yard and house. Plus don’t you get money from the state for adopting?

[@whiteheart6827]

Some states provide free education for adoptive children from the state.

[@elainefinn1641]

These two people actually act like they did the right thing it’s very strange.

[@viabaking7626]

Seems to be narcissists. Warped sense of reality. Should've accepted the plea deal. Why is tracy crying???

[@deb-77d]

⁠​is she crying? ⁠@@viabaking7626when

[@kevinrowley2363]

Yes, totally bizarre......Nazi's

[@JeanineH]

You feel like a bad parent… guilty of everything… then you see POS’s like this one and all of a sudden, you know you’ve done RIGHT BY your kids.

[@slim7435]

The defense attorney Crossing examining this victim I hope she doesn't have kids of her own if she does somebody needs to check out her house and also her co-counsel apparently they think this is normal behavior if they have kids that would be very concerning they don't need kids if they believe this is appropriate behavior for the parents that treat this child like this so shame on those attorneys Shame Shame Shame

[@belleslettres354]

Her job is literally to defend her client. She did her job to show the conflicting testimony.

[@theresamorrison2638]

Best line of questioning - you were going to give your 4 year old sibling beer, correct? Answer. Yes. Question. And it would be dangerous for a 4 year old to consume alcohol, correct? Answer. That was the point of the experiment 😂

[@christalwallace8947]

Got to love defense counsel and victim blaming. He is a child! Doing anything he could for attention. In his eyes, at least he was being seen by them even if it was negatively. He just wanted to be acknowledged. And the "dad" sitting chin up, so proud of what he did. Sickening!!

[@nicolewashington829]

These two are sick. So sad 😢

[@misstayyler]

It sounds like he has ADHD and was punished for it instead of getting a diagnosis/help for it. ADHD is hard to live with, essentially undiagnosed. I didnt get my diagnosis until 26 and it wouldve changed so much in my childhood had we known. 1:03:29

[@Seashellsbytheseashore21]

I think the kid was a little beyond ADHD.

[@annied9864]

Bad attention is better than none. Sounds to me he needed to be loved.

[@emmimus]

Yes or very possibly on the autism spectrum. The experiments would be like them to do, acting out and good at chess and very bad situation sense when it comes to other people’s emotions. It’s not that they don’t feel empathy but they have a very difficult time regulating themselves and understanding emotions from other people plus they feel stressed out by it because it’s always a struggle. Paired with trauma on top of an autism spectrum disorder and then lack of love and proper care by these adoptive parents had damaged him so his conditions became extremely bad. Poor kid ❤️

[@crimewithlaboricua]

That boy is BRILLIANT!! The issue is that instead of digging into that they punished him. And I don’t feel it’s a coincidence that he lost his room wants the youngest was born.

[@lilaworley8935]

​@@crimewithlaboricuahaving ADHD doesn't affect intelligence. It does have an effect on impulses and reactivity. Especially if it's not treated. That said.... this behavior is more than ADHD. Trying to hurt the 4 year old with alcohol is not related to ADHD behavior. Whatever mental disability or defect this young man has... isn't justifiable reason to lock him up like an animal. These parents had 1000 other options to try and manage this boys behavior.

[@thelawofficesofrogerp.fole7886]

If the parents did not lock him up would he have harmed others? If they did not do this, and the kid harmed another child or person then they would be bad parents too. Double edge sword here. Regardless of what happens in this trial. If this young man harms someone in future, are parents at fault too? He gave 4 year old beer to prove it would harm child. Did you hear that?

[@cherimerrifield9121]

This horrible man’s family sitting behind him, must be so freaking humiliated.

[@Fruitcake58]

Obviously not embarrassed, I've never seen the defendant be able to turn around and chat to the wife and family, who is also a suspect i think, bloody unbelievable..the defense is basically blaming him and justifying why he's put in a box...no emotion from either parent..lock them both up in a 6x6 cell .