IMPROVED S4 Immortal THORNS Minions Necromancer Build Guide (Pit 95+) (Diablo 4 Season 4)

[@lonmeasley752]

🤔Question: do ou think the Pit will/should be rebalanced? If so, how?

[@michaelbacigalupi5348]

You could free up a skill slot if you use blood moon breach’s. The minions could use both curses for you. That’s how I’m running mine anyway. Great video and keep up the good work.

[@lonmeasley752]

That's something I've thought about, and I just got the pants to drop a couple days ago! I would need to take off hardened bones (~25% DR) or explosive mist (and the ability to cast corpse explosion without it being on my bar) though! Worth a try I suppose! Thanks for the comment and encouragement!

[@jfree1835]

Decompose with it's aspect and it's explosion causing vulnerable, is a great debuff for thorns build. Being stationary and squishy is the downside.

[@lonmeasley752]

That's very interesting indeed! Thanks!

[@maxdavos3695]

Thanks god, you saved me several hours, i was gona try necro thorns but i think im gonna stick with my barb thorn seeing you struggle with 95pit.

[@lonmeasley752]

Yeah barb thorns is prob stronger! But then again I will tune my build further, I've seen someone on hardcore push to 112 with thorns Necro

[@maxdavos3695]

@@lonmeasley752 I will follow the progress of your build if you manage to exponentially increase your damage because it is true that it is safer with necro.

[@omgwtfkoreanbbqlol]

Have you considered using a barb to temper the thorns damage with fortify on your items?

[@lonmeasley752]

Does it take fewer rolls/have higher odds? I usually have less problems with bricking when tempering the thorns affixes as basically either of the tree (thorns while fortified, minions inherit thorns, skeletal warriors inherit thorns) is viable (but I suppose having a pretty even spread of them is optimal)!

[@omgwtfkoreanbbqlol]

@@lonmeasley752 3 option temper, I seem to have good luck getting it on my barb. No bricks yet.

[@lonmeasley752]

@@omgwtfkoreanbbqlol I see! That's smart. I'm leveling a barb as we speak! So it'd be a good option to consider!

[@Robert184e]

Can we get an updated link on your build? Trying to compare paragon board to video is rough

[@lonmeasley752]

Hmm, weird, I thought it's the latest, let me check

[@lonmeasley752]

Just checked, the link has an updated version (even more updated than what's in the video)! The paragon board should be very similar though (I just moved some golem damage nodes back to max health %)! In game, I'm also trying an even newer version, going back to bone storm instead of army of the dead! Will make yet a new video if that ends up being good! Thanks for tuning in!

[@Robert184e]

Got ya, that makes sense as to why it didn't match then. Thanks for the update

[@readas1]

Do you think it is possible to do a petless thorns build? I know its the season of the golem, but, just wondering out loud.

[@lonmeasley752]

Don't think it'll be ideal as you'll lose the ability for multiple minions to proc needleflare aspect!

[@DryUrEyesM8]

@@lonmeasley752 Minions proc needleflare now!? I wanted this in season 2

[@vitoat123]

im pretty sure that the thorns build is supposed to be based on the mages fortify rune and they proc thorns on your own razorplate or something

[@lonmeasley752]

Ive seen something about that? With bone mages fortifying, and having some weird interaction/bug with the elixir of holy bolts? Have not used that in my build though!

[@Dagda01]

Would a normal razorplate be good enough to smack lilith still 😆 im a newbie still

[@lonmeasley752]

Sure, I would say if masterworked to level 8+! Might need to get kind of lucky though.

[@Dagda01]

@lonmeasley752 thank you 😊 I'll give it a go

[@sinitarpku]

You should be able to push to 120. I did a tier 112 in HC mode without the holy bolt.

[@lonmeasley752]

That's pretty insane! Are you playing thorns too?

[@sinitarpku]

@@lonmeasley752 seems like my earlier reply didn't get through. Yeah I am also playing a thorn build. You can check my full run videos:)

[@lonmeasley752]

​@@sinitarpku Wow, thank you so much, your runs are impressive! I'd love to get any pointers from you. It looks like you're playing hardcore? Even more impressive then! How much do you feel using a shield helps? I'm thinking to just give up on golem damage and just go balls deep into thorns (by dropping Crit and going Int & Life instead)

[@sinitarpku]

@@lonmeasley752 My build has no crit at all because thorns damage doesn't benefit from crits. And I am stacking skeletal warrior mastery and damage to close, instead of golem damage. The golem focused build can work for sure, but I haven't tried to push that build. Warrior thorns build is what I am focusing on currently. In SC mode you can probably try to use AoTD and Blighted at the same time to get both of the biggest multipliers.

[@sinitarpku]

@@lonmeasley752 As for the shield, since it can roll thorn inheritance, it is actually pretty good for damage, besides the benefits of DR.

[@cameronroberts4296]

I thought this was a Diablo Immortal video at first...probably shouldn't use that word in the titles lol.

[@lonmeasley752]

Hahahah

[@thetravilr]

patched

[@lonmeasley752]

How so? Haven't been trying to push in the last couple of days (only did casual farming and played Barb)!

[@thetravilr]

@@lonmeasley752 they fixed minion thorns . as is nurfed it to the ground

[@tonyjjjjj]

NERF NECRO!

[@lonmeasley752]

That's rAcIsT!! 🤬