In Conversation with Alemtemshi Jamir over Red Tea | The Lungleng Show

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@hedwigdsouza6477
@hedwigdsouza6477 Жыл бұрын
Thanks
@thelunglengshow
@thelunglengshow Жыл бұрын
Thank you, Hedwig. You're the first person who has ever contributed. You keep us going.
@sepongkmongzar7755
@sepongkmongzar7755 Жыл бұрын
Sir alem should join congress to revive the party. Congress need such a tall leader for its org. to grow.
@asu8419
@asu8419 Жыл бұрын
👍🏻
@naga_hill_rooster
@naga_hill_rooster Жыл бұрын
Congress hate Naga 😂
@cuvezorhakho4423
@cuvezorhakho4423 Жыл бұрын
Whether Congress or BJP or any other party, if he doesn't satisfy people then he'll never win like several losses he faced..
@herilia4166
@herilia4166 Жыл бұрын
Yes 100%
@Eaglesmind81
@Eaglesmind81 Жыл бұрын
@@naga_hill_rooster on the contrary people love money .
@themanfromnowhere8301
@themanfromnowhere8301 Жыл бұрын
He is not only intellectual but soft spoken and his personality is just so amazing. I wish people like him could lead our people.
@Macgregor1945
@Macgregor1945 Жыл бұрын
If Nagas elect Chief minister based on debate like USA does, Sir Alemtemshi would have been the chief minister of Nagaland he got a insight knowledge, and lot's of experience in every field unlike Rio baba! And I love the show keep on bro😊🎉❤
@GeminiQueen606
@GeminiQueen606 Жыл бұрын
Debate is one of the factor not the sole factor.... If so Biden could have never been President.... He is Definitely the most incompetent orator in US candidate history. 😂
@chamkisetsangtam3387
@chamkisetsangtam3387 Жыл бұрын
Can't deny what you pop up but if it ever happens with debate than #Asangba Sangtam will become C.M I damn guarantee.
@Ajupochurynaga123
@Ajupochurynaga123 Жыл бұрын
Sick of his own constituency people. If his own constituency vote him to victory then there's a door for him to dream for it but there's no shortcut to achieve the position.
@leosangtam7875
@leosangtam7875 Жыл бұрын
Next CM
@cuvezorhakho4423
@cuvezorhakho4423 Жыл бұрын
How can a person become a leader when one people was thrown away several times..? The reason is that he is not a great leader...
@arjunadivideos3677
@arjunadivideos3677 Жыл бұрын
The most ethical, civilised, educated man of Nagaland. It is worth listening. God bless you
@Aljm2532
@Aljm2532 Жыл бұрын
All the 60 MLA 🧠 combined together cannot beat this IAS officer, tats why he was left out. More power to you Sir. Nagaland needs you.
@nipswots4631
@nipswots4631 Жыл бұрын
.... why he was left out.... becoz there somebody.... play game... kun smart aru knowledge thakia khan thakile nijor diktar khushi naparibole bhoi para naki.... Itutu sob manu dikhi thakibo... Kinika kunba poisa laga takat politics kheli thaki... 🤫🤔
@miyan1690
@miyan1690 Жыл бұрын
😂😢😂😅
@imlichubamjamir5588
@imlichubamjamir5588 Жыл бұрын
F he is so good than he can contests as an independent also, but he knows his own ppl don't like him so he didn't contest the election.
@AGGRESSION3666
@AGGRESSION3666 Жыл бұрын
I told him not to follow the Tenyeimi and the Rio, but he didn’t listen 😜so his downfall , fall hard on the floor
@sentitorres3890
@sentitorres3890 Жыл бұрын
Whatever comment has been put up., whether positive or negative. Let it flow, but atleast give him The Share of Respect for him. He is an IAS Officer, he has achieved something which millions only dream of. Lastly, very well spoken and intellectual Individual.. Worth Watching Mr Lungleng..
@mutdims3336
@mutdims3336 Жыл бұрын
He is the best! Talks well, sings well, works well,... I'm pretty sure he'll be a good CM as well.
@hushilisema
@hushilisema Жыл бұрын
Awesome and thought provoking! Wish our so called legislators were also endowed with such refinement and intelligence ! 👍👍
@achemnaga2231
@achemnaga2231 Жыл бұрын
One of the best interview. Watch whole interview with full attention. Thanks for bringing Sir Alem in the show. Hope and pray that God will continuosly bless and guide you Sir Alem and hopping that one day he will be in a leading team.
@plugin2471
@plugin2471 Жыл бұрын
Finally someone speaking the truth 👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾thank you sir for your honesty
@cuvezorhakho4423
@cuvezorhakho4423 Жыл бұрын
Sir "Oh kidangmonger" is still looking good, lively and fresh... Have a long life...
@hipitoarkhaachumi455
@hipitoarkhaachumi455 Жыл бұрын
If Sir contest for Lok sabha election My vote for him only ❤
@Tallylkr
@Tallylkr Жыл бұрын
Great respect for Sir Alemtemshi... One of the best and educative interviews ...,👌
@AthribaSimon-dm7tp
@AthribaSimon-dm7tp Жыл бұрын
The most influential person.... No one is more hated than he who speaks the truth. I wish sir Alem comes to power one day
@sunepjr5833
@sunepjr5833 Жыл бұрын
Shashi Tharoor of Nagaland !!!
@y.c.ongbouchang7200
@y.c.ongbouchang7200 Жыл бұрын
Good observation.
@feefo8315
@feefo8315 8 ай бұрын
My Father worked under him and as a child I could see that this man was held in high esteem and honor.
@Quinker914
@Quinker914 Жыл бұрын
Why this type of educated n knowledgeable perosn not in power 😢
@otj1138
@otj1138 Жыл бұрын
But a fool’s advisor
@thelunglengshow
@thelunglengshow Жыл бұрын
Something to ponder upon.
@imchen26
@imchen26 Жыл бұрын
Money talks ... 😢 We nagas will always be as same as today even after 20 , 30 years 😢
@jamesytgaming
@jamesytgaming Жыл бұрын
Well. He was in power for 37 years. Only that he wasn't a political leader. He was a bureaucrat, the highest bureaucrat at that 😉. So he had immense power over Nagaland without worrying every five years for power change 😅
@Eaglesmind81
@Eaglesmind81 Жыл бұрын
​He was elected only this year
@botikakiho638
@botikakiho638 Жыл бұрын
Rio has batryed him ,i can feel his pain . He share the same story with that of MP Lt khekiho zhimo the founder of NPF and later Rio became the owner. Just imagine, if he can batryed people like him , like lt khekiho , like k.Therie , and Azheto zhimo , did u think he would care enough and understanding the suffering of nagaland who suffer under his chiefministership
@ajamozhui9981
@ajamozhui9981 Жыл бұрын
Very true brother 🙏
@Appe_m
@Appe_m Жыл бұрын
You said it. All who were supposed to be the next big thing in Nagaland were betrayed by Rio
@ajamozhui9981
@ajamozhui9981 Жыл бұрын
@@Appe_m very sad but true 👍👍,,
@user-kd8xo5ro1z
@user-kd8xo5ro1z Жыл бұрын
Omg yes azheto is from my locality and we have heard about rio betraying him . Ticket and what nots all tricked at the last moment. He wants to be the only CM in nagaland. I think our salaries will be stolen for months if this goes on ...who knows i might die first and rio ?😂 he'd still be the cm at 110 years looting money n keeping it to buy angami votes for the next election. Like how his roce bag with crores was caught by the police. A cm's salary of 60k wouldn't be able to do this eyyy?
@akokamer404
@akokamer404 Жыл бұрын
The best interview that I've ever listened. It's more than intellectual discussion. We need more kind of it.
@yomahkonyak557
@yomahkonyak557 Жыл бұрын
I came across this interview today only and would like to thank the interviewer for bringing in our intellectual leader for sharing his initiatives, views, participation and about his life journey. There are more older generation intellectual people around (they may not have many titles) who really feels for our people and state but could not find the right platform to bring change, so pls find out and interview them individually or in groups. Also I want the younger lot to know that Sir Alemtemshi and his father were CS and ma'am Banuo and her father were also CS of Nagaland - four CS from a family ..incredible achievement! Hope God and our people will not let such gifted and eager person go waste 🙏
@shijohvem
@shijohvem Жыл бұрын
I heard the name of Alemtemshi from my very young age but i didn't see him or know who he really was... Thanks for the video... Long live Sir Alemtemshi 🙏
@Rexmellee
@Rexmellee Жыл бұрын
Such a gem. I hope he gets a jackpot chance to lead Nagaland once again. I'm sure it'll be a BIG change for our Naga people.
@theeastvision8851
@theeastvision8851 Жыл бұрын
He should be the next CM....we need CM who can be in picture sharing,talking conversing with media's ... We neeed leaders with broad secular mindset...who can't be a puppet for money.
@jamesytgaming
@jamesytgaming Жыл бұрын
And you think we have such righteous leaders in Nagaland? Our Nagaland? Think again 😅
@ctj7669
@ctj7669 Жыл бұрын
And what makes you think that he will be any better than our current leaders.
@Eaglesmind81
@Eaglesmind81 Жыл бұрын
Let the MLA decide whether He is fit for the Cm post
@kughaviachumi9478
@kughaviachumi9478 Жыл бұрын
Alem sir Congress will make you shine God bless next CM.
@akulunienu1233
@akulunienu1233 11 ай бұрын
Worth Listening to it. May God prolong your life🙏.
@theja63
@theja63 Жыл бұрын
Yesss! Thank you TLS for existing. I always wondered why there was no channel interviewing with intellectuals. It was only artists and "influencers". Amazing interview!
@estherpamei186
@estherpamei186 Жыл бұрын
I wish he will be the next CM of Nagaland. My wildest prayer 🙏
@yangsamokikon3519
@yangsamokikon3519 Жыл бұрын
One of the best interview I ever Watched wth full attention. great man. Huge respect sir. Be blessed for us naga🙏🙏🙏
@jamir2583
@jamir2583 Жыл бұрын
He betrayed his own people and trusted Rio taklu so much and atlast Rio betrayed him. Feels sorry for him. He was one of the best administrative officer in Nagaland. Too much trust will hurt soo much.
@xxx_mehx_men4155
@xxx_mehx_men4155 Жыл бұрын
You will take another decade to find a qualified and an understanding leader like him.. he trusted his people, who failed him for money..
@VeteranPothead
@VeteranPothead Жыл бұрын
Please bring Th Muivah the supremo of NSCN IM ,let us know what he has to say.
@atsu-lamliu7570
@atsu-lamliu7570 Жыл бұрын
Yes let Th.Muivah
@user-kd8xo5ro1z
@user-kd8xo5ro1z Жыл бұрын
Under muivah we would have had a nagalim with a military style govt. Backward and more broke than how we are now. We dont even have enough agriculture to support our market for a day . Imagine a nagaland under underground who call themselves naga fredom fighters but says " give me 3 lakhs by monday or I will shoot you " . Yeah think about it
@scorpio_N_Freak
@scorpio_N_Freak Жыл бұрын
First time watching his interview. Such a knowledgeable and intellectual talk. Aging so gracefully .
@khetovisumisumi7548
@khetovisumisumi7548 Жыл бұрын
Very interesting conversation both of you. May Almighty God bless both of you...🙏🙏🙏And lastly i wish him one day Sir Alem to be CM our state.
@Wisdom-Fountain
@Wisdom-Fountain Жыл бұрын
My favorite show... The lungleng show... You always pin the right target,right place at the right time. God bless you🙏
@internationalpulse
@internationalpulse Жыл бұрын
He should come back to politics. He is a gentle soul and experienced. Nagaland needs people like him urgently. We are a failed state atm. Well done Lungleng 🤝
@nagamanuasetei
@nagamanuasetei Жыл бұрын
As i always said..one of the best show. Who else think Alemtemshi got more insight ideas and plan for the state than present leadership? Because of his vast intellectual some people, you know who it is, doesn't want him on the same dias. Yes, he should join Congress now and lead from front. But again, the Congress chief in Nagaland is his rival 😂
@temjenyangerjamir9238
@temjenyangerjamir9238 Жыл бұрын
True because of him he lost .😢
@kichuchar
@kichuchar Жыл бұрын
Sir Alem's personality speaks the quality of a person...knowledge with experience with blessings..may you lead us sooner then later
@aosunepjamir2231
@aosunepjamir2231 Жыл бұрын
One of my idols from Nagaland. It's very disheartening to see him not making a mark as a politician. I love your channel. We learn something new from every episode through eminent personalities that you invite.
@bk2535
@bk2535 Жыл бұрын
What a great conversation. You even managed to asked him personal questions and he also honestly confess some mistakes he made during past elections etc. All the best for future shows Mr Lungleng! 👍👍
@hetoiken2083
@hetoiken2083 9 ай бұрын
Thumb’s up to The L S Hat’s off to Sir Alem and his wonderful words.
@Northeast365
@Northeast365 Жыл бұрын
Sir. Alem ..plz joint congress and bring Nagaland into your wonderful dream. Do not fall prey again under selfish and jealous Rio...long live and best wishes to sir Alem!
@Modi375
@Modi375 Жыл бұрын
i want more from him . . . bring him again part 2 . . .
@KOSFITHU5643
@KOSFITHU5643 Жыл бұрын
Long live Sir Alem, God bless you with a long long life
@tinysasumi8384
@tinysasumi8384 Жыл бұрын
'We are totally confused' Could nt be more true. It was a pleasure to have met him back in 2014. We need People who can think ahead of Time.
@yngullie1789
@yngullie1789 Жыл бұрын
The best show...bt the lowest subscriber. People only watch faltu/hopeless Mukpang.😂
@thelunglengshow
@thelunglengshow Жыл бұрын
Thank you, means a lot 🙏
@yngullie1789
@yngullie1789 Жыл бұрын
@@thelunglengshow i would definitely like to meet u one day.. bt off camera. 👍👍
@Lovemyself30000
@Lovemyself30000 Жыл бұрын
Only intellectuals enjoy this type of podcast which give so much of insightful knowledges .The rest are khali dabbas
@xxx_mehx_men4155
@xxx_mehx_men4155 Жыл бұрын
All i can repeat is the words of Scoractes Sir. Alem, "God sees the truth, but waits".. today your words are taken off your breath, but tomorrow your words will be heard loud and clear... Just be wise and find some other means and ways to bring changes until then... Love from Longleng, your so called birth place..
@antibiotic3168
@antibiotic3168 Жыл бұрын
Awaited conversation 😊... Bdw i dont understand the mindset of the naga people..i dont see this channel growing. nagas dont support their own people who are doing their job so well.. But supports others content makers and entertainers which actualy is not valuable practically..
@Franco_ML
@Franco_ML Жыл бұрын
Agreed 💯👍
@geminishim
@geminishim Жыл бұрын
Because nagas are hypocrites best in pulling people down n criticizing every possible bit. Expressing encouragement hurts their dignity.
@thenagasaga963
@thenagasaga963 Жыл бұрын
Very satisfying podcast.Thank you
@limaimchen9613
@limaimchen9613 Жыл бұрын
My favourite show❤. Worth watching your Channel brother. May God bless you.
@rolandlotha5040
@rolandlotha5040 Жыл бұрын
Alemtemshi is highly intellectual and well informed person. Nagas would have greatly benefited immensely through his leadership given a chance. We talk about change but change cannot come down from heaven., If we want change we must utilize service of a competent leader like him.
@toshiaier254
@toshiaier254 Жыл бұрын
We really need well experience n intellectual person like him to lead us ,God bless sir Alem
@awawallim7850
@awawallim7850 Жыл бұрын
Wao worth watching,first time seeing him,such a knowledgeable person❤❤
@casualnorm
@casualnorm Жыл бұрын
What a shining gem. More respect to you Sir.
@masticobra6916
@masticobra6916 Жыл бұрын
Full of education and quality discussion ✊
@KahoniJakha
@KahoniJakha Жыл бұрын
Love your talk show Mr lungleng ❤,
@thengeomeya1936
@thengeomeya1936 Жыл бұрын
One such character is needed for Nagaland. Rio betrayed him more than Judas betrayed Jesus.
@user-kd8xo5ro1z
@user-kd8xo5ro1z Жыл бұрын
Omg yes azheto was a candidate from my locality and we have heard about rio betraying him . Ticket and what nots all tricked at the last moment. He wants to be the only CM in nagaland. I think our salaries will be stolen for months if this goes on ...who knows i might die first and rio ?😂 he'd still be the cm at 110 years looting money n keeping it to buy angami votes for the next election. Like how his roce bag with crores was caught by the police. A cm's salary of 60k wouldn't be able to do this eyyy?
@imlimarjamir8349
@imlimarjamir8349 Жыл бұрын
Fit to be CM of nagaland....
@pupoilam7668
@pupoilam7668 Жыл бұрын
I wish him to be the CM.
@poko3059
@poko3059 Жыл бұрын
Don't wish , support..
@cuvezorhakho4423
@cuvezorhakho4423 Жыл бұрын
Not a good politician,he is... Only a good bureaucrat 😀
@pupoilam7668
@pupoilam7668 Жыл бұрын
He is a dignified and vibrant administrator. But in politics, need to explore more.
@mhabemoo550
@mhabemoo550 Жыл бұрын
After winning an assembly seat
@xxx_mehx_men4155
@xxx_mehx_men4155 Жыл бұрын
Honest people can never be CM.. Can't you observe in his conversation that his mouth is forced to remain shut by some influential people?
@ckashung
@ckashung Жыл бұрын
So good to see sir Alemtemshi on this show. Always humble and prudent.
@neinuokire8520
@neinuokire8520 Жыл бұрын
One of the best bureaucrat Officer in Nagaland.Wish he become our CM one day.
@KhetohoZhimomi-y1y
@KhetohoZhimomi-y1y Жыл бұрын
Bro catch some more leaders on your show it was quit interesting and satisfied also God bless you sir Alem and see you on top of your dreams.
@fionafe7860
@fionafe7860 7 ай бұрын
Such a well spoken intellect leader❤.so much of love to this episode
@watinono-wp6bq
@watinono-wp6bq Жыл бұрын
A genuine servant of Nagaland....
@nishitsharma4526
@nishitsharma4526 Жыл бұрын
very knowledgeable podcast , I watch many podcast but no one covers far east as good as you.
@thelunglengshow
@thelunglengshow Жыл бұрын
Thank you, Nishit 🙏
@Eaglesmind81
@Eaglesmind81 Жыл бұрын
Can we call this pot pod cast ?
@nishitsharma4526
@nishitsharma4526 Жыл бұрын
@@Eaglesmind81 I don't think so (I don't know much about it)
@Eaglesmind81
@Eaglesmind81 Жыл бұрын
Let the people decide
@awelekronu4759
@awelekronu4759 Жыл бұрын
This type of intellect should lead the government... Hats off to this show, the pride of Nagaland 👍
@lungnyeishebahu-mm4cs
@lungnyeishebahu-mm4cs Жыл бұрын
Lots of things I have learn from this talk. No matter what good things will always overtake bad. Let's not loose hope and pray to God so that our Nagaland will Shine one day.
@aobalemtur324
@aobalemtur324 Жыл бұрын
He is a quality person. God bles in politics..
@khekaviachumi6576
@khekaviachumi6576 Жыл бұрын
Wow,for a person like sir Alem,God is sparing nagaland from burning like sodom & Gomarrah.❤❤❤❤
@kongkhaonaga8033
@kongkhaonaga8033 Жыл бұрын
Thanku so much for bringing sir..
@bendangwatilongkumer4829
@bendangwatilongkumer4829 Жыл бұрын
I wish him the best in life in whatever he do
@jamesytgaming
@jamesytgaming Жыл бұрын
Good to be notified from this channel after some time of silence. I love this channel and the content it creates for us. Keep growing sir ❤
@LensFromNorthEast5338
@LensFromNorthEast5338 Жыл бұрын
I wish him good, healthy, and long life.🙏. God please do not take good people soon🙏
@imkkuxxen3939
@imkkuxxen3939 Жыл бұрын
I personally want to thank you for bringing sir alem to the show had a great time ..watching
@longshenshiu77
@longshenshiu77 Жыл бұрын
May we get to see the dawn of new righteous era sooner than later. Best wishes to both. 🙏
@rokotsangtam1465
@rokotsangtam1465 Жыл бұрын
Wow..! What a talk, ♥️👍 We hopefully awaiting your leadership Sir.
@toshinaroozukum354
@toshinaroozukum354 Жыл бұрын
Very Powerful statements made here... Thank you for bringing such interviews in your show. Keep growing.
@rinchui7803
@rinchui7803 Жыл бұрын
I’m tired of telling my cousin to join your institute to hone her skills … I hope it won’t be too late when she realised what she needed to be employable. Appreciate the wonderful job you both are doing !
@atjamir9907
@atjamir9907 Жыл бұрын
We've put the cart before the horse and see no way forward. As we all know saying & doing are two different things, it's time to start "Doing" what's right socially, politically & economically. And if we need someone to lead Sir. Alem Jamir is the chosen one.
@shangpongnyamyei7780
@shangpongnyamyei7780 Жыл бұрын
Worth listening to your podcast...
@thelunglengshow
@thelunglengshow Жыл бұрын
Thanks for the support 🤚
@aosenlongchar6898
@aosenlongchar6898 Жыл бұрын
An educative podcast 🙌🏻
@Aogospel
@Aogospel Жыл бұрын
Hats off sir Alemtemshi.. very capable person to lead the people of Nagaland. Respect!!
@kvto9542
@kvto9542 Жыл бұрын
Thank you so much ❤️
@kiyeliswu9324
@kiyeliswu9324 9 ай бұрын
How I wish Sir Alem come to power and become CM. God's plan is very beautiful.
@uploadvideos1202
@uploadvideos1202 Жыл бұрын
Respect for this refined gentleman🙏
@kimjong-un844
@kimjong-un844 Жыл бұрын
Thanks Mr. Lungleng for content as such is why i pay the internet bill.
@thelunglengshow
@thelunglengshow Жыл бұрын
Thank you, Chairman Kim. Please bring democracy to your people. 😸
@wildNaga14
@wildNaga14 Жыл бұрын
Such a gem of Naga People....bold, straight,depth of knowledge, positivity, clarity of thoughts and humbleness 👌
@herostm5574
@herostm5574 Жыл бұрын
The best Interview with mixed emotions... thank you to "THE L S" . Such an insightful conversations😊.
@Theanonymousguy94
@Theanonymousguy94 Жыл бұрын
More leaders should speak up like our Leader before Nagaland is torn into pieces, well responded and a good interview.
@renthungohumtsoe8922
@renthungohumtsoe8922 Жыл бұрын
If he contest 2024 no doubt all the true christian will vote for him without spending single penny seeing this present scenario in the centre.wishing sir all the best.
@zhayengshiu2031
@zhayengshiu2031 Жыл бұрын
Show must go ON!👌
@thelunglengshow
@thelunglengshow Жыл бұрын
It must! 🤚
@yngullie1789
@yngullie1789 Жыл бұрын
Yes ... 👍👍
@rosylongs913
@rosylongs913 7 ай бұрын
Interesting and impressive Sir.I wish a person like you is capable to be a good leadership for our state.I understand the situation iin Nagaland specially in politics which never growing comparing with other sates.If we think about its far more beyond to achieve the dreams.
@akums.walling6434
@akums.walling6434 Жыл бұрын
May Our Almighty grant u success in your future endeavors. God bless u Sir🙏
@menuolhouliekirezak2067
@menuolhouliekirezak2067 Жыл бұрын
what a guy! Big respect!! 🙏👍
@DanielAwomi-nu1xi
@DanielAwomi-nu1xi Жыл бұрын
Asu NI.Jamir we missed u soso much
@Lendir_unboxing_19
@Lendir_unboxing_19 Жыл бұрын
Not forgetting, he is the brother of our present cabinet minister Metsubo.
@dailydoseonviralvideos201
@dailydoseonviralvideos201 Жыл бұрын
I wish him to be CM someday..!! He is my idol...
@rokolam2549
@rokolam2549 Жыл бұрын
Now thats a fruitful talkshow ... really enjoyed and learned alot .....thank you lungleng show
@akholeyri
@akholeyri Жыл бұрын
Great conversation, concealing nothing inside, such a straightforward thoughts made known to the people with such hypnotizing smile. Really appreciated. Thank you Rock, for bringing such 'need of the time' interview in a time such as this.
@khochiraoodyuo5344
@khochiraoodyuo5344 Жыл бұрын
Such a visionary leader sir Alemtemshi.... Broad minded gentleman.
@wuiindiashouldwinshiu1326
@wuiindiashouldwinshiu1326 Жыл бұрын
Love him to become one of the state best leader in term of politics.
@Awol408
@Awol408 Жыл бұрын
I think if we just putting aside dirty politics and "back door " MLA -minister... Sir Alem would be the most fitted political leader for nagaland... it's so unfortunate !!!
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