In conversation with Professor Thomas Barfield with Shabnam Nasimi | Virtual Event

[@bandygamy5898]

I'm really keen on hearing the professor's view on Afghanistan now post-Taliban take over.

[@davidbodine1808]

I would be very interested in an update to this video now that the US has withdrawn from Afghanistan. Please consider doing another video.

[@yabiggalla]

@@stevejunior7343 are you from🇵🇰?

[@bandygamy5898]

The troll comments are so random 🤣 what are you on about you loonies

[@bandygamy5898]

@@stevejunior7343 Again, what are you on about?

[@cormacdonnelly365]

@@stevejunior7343 I sense someone who's eager to hear the good professor's view post-Taliban takeover

[@Blue_eyes_girl-M1]

Deeply insightful discussions by Professor Barfield

[@ali8967]

Thank you Professor. you are one of those who has a nuance knowledge of different layers of Afghanistan

[@stephenwallace8782]

Incredibly insightful. Want to hear more from this man as the weeks and months go on. I learned quite a lot.

[@stephenwallace8782]

It blows my mind to think that federalism was even proposed internally. Wow.

[@nobodynoone2500]

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[@oatofa8323]

I’ve listened to this ep from the beginning to the end, although I usually can’t concentrate for this long time, but this was great. Huge respect to the professor. Clear question and clear answers. I’m personally a big supporter of the federal government/ state idea and find amazing that Ahmad Massoud, who has a large popularity in North Afghanistan works for this idea. My father listens a lot to Latif Pedram and he himself was a Mujahed too. So he convinced me about those political aims over the last years. Thank you very much for your time and work!

[@crystalinne7]

I so appreciate this video! I always enjoy learning from Dr. Barfield.

[@aliakbar-qz8tx]

he is a great teacher

[@depasrik]

Absolutely informative. Given recent take over of Kabul by the Taliban and the chaotic exit of American forces and Afghan masses it would be timely to bring the professor Barfield back for his insightful views.

[@bramlilipory4116]

Now Afghanistan is back in the Taliban's hands, I would really appreciate it that the Professor gives his views, opinion and predictions regarding this new situation. Will it be an improvement or a tragic backfall ?

[@umertracker816]

Listen to Dr Israr Ahmad who predicted everything so far happened in Afghanistan his predictions are also in light of Quran and Hadith.

[@k2024-b8n]

Just listen to what he *said* - where the power resides, what needs to happen wrt political parties. There is a lot of information in his insightful comments that go beyond the immediate and obvious.

[@k2024-b8n]

@@stevejunior7343 No. I was responding to Mr Lilipory and referring him to the comments of Professor Barfield - the latter answered significant parts of his questions.

[@nobodynoone2500]

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[@Rajj854]

A pleasure to hear Prof Barfield.

[@aliakbar-qz8tx]

I admire him

[@jimmygravitt1048]

Definitely want to hear from Tom now that the withdrawal is complete.

[@k2024-b8n]

This was fabulous. Deeply insightful discussions and talk by Professor Barfield: touching on issues of decentral organization, resilience as a country, stability and so forth. This should be required watching to all current world leaders, including the Taliban who will run Afghanistan from now on. The centralized power that they now hold, underpinned by the Kingly/presidential constitution bears the hallmarks of their undoing, unless they allow a federal model, where certain decisions and governance structures established locally and only certain capabilities centralized. As Professor Barfield said, they need to have political parties granted in the constitution. Strangely, the US or GB are themselves no shining example for such kind of democracy with electoral college and FPTP voting systems where not every single vote counts the same across the country and where gerrymandering is widespread. Such systems can only remain stable as long as there are strong ingrained (and undemocratic) traditions of central rule in place: not what Afghanistan has. I hope the current leaders look at how the German system is set up with proportional representation, strong states with largely devolved budgets and governance and a centre providing aid for things needed for all.

[@kondorviktor]

Great talk, Professor. Groundbraking. I hope it will find its way to ears in Europe. I listened to it as an encouragmenet for Europe to use its money , diplomacy, technological and cultural soft power in which many countries here are grate. Even Bojo could work, if he understood, guns are not the only path.

[@k2024-b8n]

@@kondorviktor You can forget about Boris Johnson. A system that is not based on representational governance but on FPTP any Etonian crackpot, and particularly one obsessed with Churchill, can say anything and get away with it, destroy institutions in his own country, send parliament packing, soon remove oversight abilities of the Supreme court. A democracy without a functioning (i.e. powersharing) opposition that has teeth is no exemplar to look up to. Bojo is the epitome of what happens when democratic checks and balances are taken out. None of this can help, particularly as the UK has lost its influential foreign-policy place in and on behalf of Europe once and for all by this self-inflicted injury. Sadly, the British parliament is trapped in an 18th Century time bubble, as could be seen clearly in the period preceding Brexit. It is systemic: if a parliamentarian cannot get back after an insufficient response, if the question wasn't answered, what is the purpose of parliament? In any other field of specialization you would find that, to improve things. I think one can be certain that Europe, if it can remain stable, will enact a pacifying influence and gain new allies, even unusual ones far away, as America is withdrawing from the world scene. A prediction that time will test.Clearly Europe has understood the multipolar global political landscape.

[@DreamteamCarlo]

Good guy this, thank you prof. Barfield!

[@matiaryan]

& Thank you Madam Nasimi. It was a great discussion indeed and fruitful. Looking forward to see more of your effort in CFA, I really regret missing the live event! Keep it up! :)

[@rdg8390]

Australia has a federal system where each state has it's own local government and a federal government with a separation of powers.

[@FighterFlash]

I’m going to share this on Facebook if six more do this we can reach the world.

[@daviddorcich9519]

so there are Americans that do understand non-American people.

[@shopatthecaravan7017]

Oh please

[@quackslikeaduck]

One or two here and there, evidently. (Of course, none of them is a policy-maker.)

[@alkante2962]

Michaël Barry too...

[@lycalyca-kl5xs]

Great knowledge of Afg from an American

[@afgwogsta]

Ofareen dispora from down under, well done!

[@nowruzfaisal]

well discuss

[@WELSHDESI]

I born & bred in wales 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁷󠁬󠁳󠁿 but my ethnicity is Punjabi Pakistani 🇵🇰 … I am interested in history & culture of different ethnic people settle in Afghanistan 🇦🇫, central Asian & Kurdistan.

[@matiaryan]

Very informative... Esp. min 23.00 is worth hearing too many times...!

[@bewell6019]

23:00 thx. 100% agree on his statement about groups who have been dominant and received an unfair share of power tend to feel cheated as they have any impediments to keeping/growing that power. The deep state is clearly not enforcing equal justice which demonstrates readily what group is dominant (in control) and to what extent there is an expectation of that level of control. The multi-year riots and usurpation of basic civil rights by this group against average citizens' conceiving to enjoy a public park or walking on a public sidewalk or otherwise engage in basic 1A protections. Those riots have been in the name of groups feeling "disenfranchised" after having that above equal status (or what he calls "unfair share of power") buttressed by *permanent* employees in government and private agencies they employ for plausible deniability. Those permanent employees, whether underlings or not, seize power since they control the actual work/reporting of results.

[@quackslikeaduck]

Oh yeah! That was the money shot right there. Truth.

[@youknow6968]

The world has forgotten that Pakistan has hosted 3-5 million Afghan refugees constantly for 40 years, and counting. Considering some go back, and many more come, it is easy to assume, up to 1/3 of Afghans have enjoyed Pakistani hospitality at some points in their lives. Let's show some gratitude, otherwise your judgements are negatively coloured. None of the other countries/players in Afghanistan have done anything nearly as much as Pakistan. Let them take Afghan refugees, then claim they want good for Afghanistan.

[@kharbetterthanyou8552]

We thank Pakistan and Pakistani people. But india and Pakistan are playing a destructive geopolitical game in afghanistan. You yourself would not want another country supporting groups in your country.

[@youknow6968]

@@kharbetterthanyou8552 yaar, I love Afghans, I'm originally from a region close to Indian border, we had Afghan refugees there, no-one has ever said why they are here or spoken against them, except, bhai hein, they are welcome. Except recent years, thinking enough is enough. No gratitude is being shown, only blame. It is unfair of Afghans to put Pakistan in the same category as other countries, especially India. When you wanted revenge against the Soviets because they invaded, we helped you, India helped the Soviets kill 1 million Afghans, you've forgotten. No one else took in 5 million Afghan refugees, and gave them freedom to do what they want, live where they want. India didn't take any, it helped your murderers, and Iran put it's refugees in refugee camps, with strict restrictions. Pakistan suffered because of the level of help given to Afghan brothers and sisters. I could go on and on, you guys have forgotten it, or you would not place Pakistan in the same category as other countries, especially India, who didn't help you, but helped your murderers. Please, keep things in perspective, and not reach for lazy conclusions.

[@kharbetterthanyou8552]

@@youknow6968 you call me lazy but you only see things from your own perspective. Pakistan helped the groups that benefited them. The Pakistani government supported hekmateyr who shelled kabul in 92 killing 60 thousand people. I love how Pakistani always hate on other countries for the smallest things. We dont blame you only. The vast majority of afghans who migrated to Pakistan were pashtuns and they moved to pashtun areas. Also, i have seen with my own eyes how you guys treat pashtuns. They are your own and they get treated badly. We dont want revenge. We just want peace. We want both indian and Pakistan out. I know its hard for you do admit. But you are both as bad as each other. Just ignore the my side is right my nation is always right and look at things without bias. In the 90s the Pakistani isi kept telling the taliban to attack iran. Why? Who would have suffered in that war? Afghan people. So dont act like your government is ran by angels. If your politicians so good than why do Pakistanis themselves complain about them all the time. Your politicians are as corrupt and as the indian ones.

[@kharbetterthanyou8552]

@@youknow6968 i have lived in both iran and Pakistan. I can tell you iranians are much more hospitable. Ofcourse the pashtuns are very hospitable but sadly the punjabis were a bit xenophobic in my humble experience. Iran hosted more afghan refugees compared to Pakistan. But again i want to have good relationship with Pakistan. I just dont want them interfering in Afghanistan. Just like you wouldn’t want Afghanistan to interfere in Pakistan. Please dont be a hypocrite.

[@youknow6968]

@@kharbetterthanyou8552 you just proved my point, you ignored the points I raised, and are stuck in your hateful mindset. I won't reply to what you said because its based on fantasies and your interpretation, without factual reasoning. What I mentioned are simple facts, not my interpretations. You are an ungrateful nation, nothing better, good riddance to you lot. Resolve your mess yourself, because we are sick of it, grow up and stop blaming others, no one forced you to kill your brothers, it's your fault, be a man and admit it, bunch of ungrateful sickos.

[@oldranger649]

what year did the Prof do his field wrk?

[@quackslikeaduck]

According to another vid of his, early 1970's.

[@simian_essence]

Federalism is great. Look at the States. Look at Canada (more federal than the USA btw). Look at Switzerland. Three federal places. These countries have not fallen apart, and they are pleasant places to live in for the most part. And if a federation does "fall apart" without a war (e.g. Czechoslovakia), is that a tragedy? It is not.

[@k2024-b8n]

the latter can only work in any stable way if the remaining pieces are embedded in a larger pacifying entity. In this case Europe, the EU which was designed as a union of peace after 1500 yrs of local (and later national) warfare across the continent. ..Moreover, monopolies of military power (or governance of military by civil leadership) was not touched/changed in the break-up of Czechoslovakia. Not comparable to a place with marauding warlords and more rounds of (US, Russian, Chinese) ammunition than people to kill...

[@simian_essence]

@@k2024-b8n Afghanistan "worked" in the past for long stretches when they had federalism (a.k.a. decentralization - under Shah & Daoud for example) but didn't work under centralization (communists & Karzai/Ghani). Federalism is a form of decentralization. I'm happy using either word for Afghanistan's best bet for success going forward. This is Barfield's essential point. Any form of centralization would be bad by comparison. I agree 100% with Barfield when it comes to Afghanistan.

[@k2024-b8n]

@@simian_essence That was exactly my point. As Barfield pointed out it *didn't* work beforehand because the constitution was not geared for multiparty government and was/is presidential/geared towards king-like forms of government. There is a need for a dual approach, division of power and a federal structure must be constitutionally solidified.

[@marktorres770]

Great show but would have liked to hear more about the Taliban working with Russia and China in its attempt to join the Shanghai Cooperation Organization. Especially since multilateralism was mentioned. #peoplepuebloparty

[@matiaryan]

52... 56.00 Great discussions indeed!

[@matiaryan]

49.00 Federalism ...

[@cadoshalgham9937]

Abdur Rahman who order the Genocid of 26 millions people, 62% of the Bactrian Persian Hazara in 1890 took their (Turkistan Persia) country with the help of Britain was a successful ruler of Afghanistan?? And you are a Professor with education!!!

[@cadoshalgham9937]

When you aryan iranian start learning how not to scavenge on other people's history? Nomads aryan iranian brought nothing to the party in the region just adopt the Bactrian's Persian Language and their Zoroastrain religion. Get with your original pahlawy Language and culture if you can, that's yours aryan iranian culture, leave our Bactrian's Persian History alone

[@kharbetterthanyou8552]

@@cadoshalgham9937 26 million people? The population of afghanistan was 13 million in 1980s

[@cadoshalgham9937]

@@kharbetterthanyou8552 The research show if the Genocide of 22 millions Native North America did not happened their population today would be over 200 millions people. The same things happened in Turkistan Persia, over 6.8 millions Bactrian Persian Hazara was slaughtered with the help of Britain. That's 62% of the population, the remaining 38% today is over 14 millions Bactrian Persian Hazara lives in Afghanistan and outside their homeland. With out the Genocide their population today would be around 40 millions

[@kharbetterthanyou8552]

@@cadoshalgham9937 the nazi with all the resources of Europe at their hands could only kill 8 million people. You are saying abdul rahman and his donkeys killed 22 million people? I am hazara and abdul rahman with the resources and technology he had maxed only killed 200, 000 people tops.

[@cadoshalgham9937]

@@kharbetterthanyou8552 You are a babe Nazi abdur rahman new generation. Nazi was fighting with entire world just read the list of the soldiers killed in world war 2! abdur rahman was slaughtering innocent civilians to grab their country

[@AfghanistanExploration]

This is why we say #sanctionpakistan

[@matiaryan]

Min 25.00 is more than realistic! :)

[@matiaryan]

43.00... ! Interesting.

[@youknow6968]

This discussion is obsessed with repeating lies about Pakistan, India helped the Soviets kill nearly 1 million Afghans, then in the 90s, India, Iran, Russians supported various Afghan groups from central Asia, feeding the fighting, why has the world forgotten that? That's shameful to recall only one aspect, and forget everything else.

[@youknow6968]

@lappelap tamalate there you go again, blowing hot air full of nonsense, please it's not nice to talk out of your backside, it stinks. Get a brain, then come back for a proper discussion.

[@anak5183]

Pakistan was created by the British in 1947. Half belonged to India and half to Afghanistan.

[@konaboyz1690]

World peace is none of our business. Morrissy.....

[@siavashseiahpush2635]

I think that when your talking about afghanistan, actually we have too undrestand too! there is no subitle in pashto or even in persien! for whom your making this disscussion?

[@matiaryan]

38.00 Political parties, if any.

[@tetupuorongoratai4726]

After all he said she said sorry I was on meet lol send the Vikings over.

[@youknow6968]

Highly strange that every evaluation is done with thought and care, but when it comes to Pakistan, all we hear is simple sound bites, that's intellectually unfair.

[@ethanparker9787]

The interviewer wouldn’t let Prof Barfield say a word for the first four and a half minutes!

[@motorcop505]

What a great interview! I look forward to watching more of your videos. I was very pleased to learn there are so many women involved in the management and leadership of the Conservative Friends so Afghanistan. I was lucky enough to train senior police officials there. I'm heartsick at the debacle that Biden created and my heart goes out to the Afghan people. 🇦🇫💔

[@siobhanchristine-bligh183]

Biden didn’t create it, I’m no fan of his but this was a long time coming and Trump negotiated the withdrawal

[@youknow6968]

"other than Pakistan, everyone sees trouble in Afghanistan sees trouble for themselves" with respect, what an extremely stupid thing to say. No other country has suffered as much as Pakistan, and wants an end to this Afghan drama. Pakistan did not ask the Soviets to invade, neither did they ask the Americans, nor did they force the Afghans to continue fighting.

[@nasrin1814]

They continued to fund and brainwash/train them to kill Afghans especially the minorities and afghan forces.

[@youknow6968]

@@nasrin1814 what are talking about, you fool. India helped the Soviets kill nearly 1 million Afghans. Then they funded the warlords in the 90s, helping them kill tens of thousands of Afghans. Then helped America in this fight, in the process killing nearly 250,000 Afghans And, funded and supported terrorism out of Afghanistan, in neighbouring countries, especially Pakistan. India needs to stop supporting the murder of Afghans, and stop supporting terrorism, and stop killing minorities, especially in it's own country.

[@youknow6968]

@lappelap tamalate what claptrap are you blowing, fool. It's easy to talk nonsense crap, but harder to create a sensible sentence, in a sensible discussion. I suppose you need a brain for that, my sincere apologies, when you get one, please do let me know.

[@aliakbar-ws2mx]

@@youknow6968 you are complete fool and everybody in Afghanistan hates pakistan more than anything. Everyones knows pakistan was created by British to use it against India and Afghanistan.

[@youknow6968]

@@aliakbar-ws2mx look a fool calling everyone else a fool. When you claim your fantasies, rather than facts, that's when you appear a fool. Don't make new claims fool, refute what I said, AND, stop your lies, fool.

[@AbdulKhader-786]

Afghanistan will become Pakistan's next province, in sha Allah

[@allahmuhammad225]

How about disintegrate Na-Pakistan and give right of self determination to Pathans in KPK, Balouches of Balouchistan and last but not least the Sindhis and Gilgit ppl? The terrorist sponsoring state would be gone, and all the neighbors will live in peace.

[@tmmmohseni2560]

This is why you have made yourselves and everyone around you badbakht.

[@tabinekoman]

Oh beware brother of what you wish. Those mountains...

[@keywinhomes8969]

Pashtuns will dominate Pakistan with their undefeated Mujahedeens. Wish will be granted

[@kharbetterthanyou8552]

Take back Bangladesh first

[@gainafunction1538]

conservative friends of afganistan, type of name the cia would use

[@jeaniehammer9404]

Well! maybe you would prefer neoliberal friends!🤣🤣

[@motorcop505]

Biden and the Liberal Friends of Afghanistan just surrendered to the Islamic Emirate of Afghanistan and gave them 250 American hostages. I'll stick with the Conservative friends having actually been there and having worked with fine men and women who are now being hunted thanks to that POS Biden.

[@johnfranklin8319]

You mean the “Gender and Women’s Studies” program at Kabul University was for nothing???

[@jamesallen2487]

Recent events have proven, again, the abject uselessness of the notions held by an academic.

[@afreyinthesnow9015]

She looks smoking hot

[@marktorres770]

Great show but would have liked to hear more about the Taliban working with Russia and China in its attempt to join the Shanghai Cooperation Organization. Especially since multilateralism was mentioned. #peoplepuebloparty