In Depth BDD & Contributing To Cucumber | Seb Rose In The Engineering Room Ep. 22

Seb Rose is a Consultant, coach, trainer, analyst, and developer and an organiser of some of the UK’s best software conferences. His name is closely associated with BDD, he is a contributor to the Cucumber open source project, which is one of the most widely used frameworks for BDD, and has written several books on this, and other software topics, including the “BDD Books” series, “Cucumber for Java” and he has the first chapter in “97 things every programmer should know”. Seb is also a blogger, and a regular conference speaker. He helps to run a charity, via the very excellent cyber-dojo.org site for teach TDD, that helps children to learn to code.
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🖇 LINKS:
🔗 Practice TDD & BDD at Cyber-Dojo ➡️ cyber-dojo.org/
🔗 Support the Cyber-Dojo ➡️ bit.ly/45Yqp78
🔗 SoCraTes UK Un-conference ➡️ socratesuk.org/
🔗 Dave's TDD Tutorial, Using Cyber-Dojo ➡️ courses.cd.training/courses/t...
🔗 The BDD Books Website ➡️ www.bddbooks.com
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📚 BOOKS:
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📖 The BDD Books: Formulation, by Gaspar Nagay & Seb Rose ➡️ amzn.to/3rinhnJ
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📖 Dave’s NEW BOOK "Modern Software Engineering" is available as paperback, or kindle here ➡️ amzn.to/3DwdwT3
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📖 The original, award-winning "Continuous Delivery" book by Dave Farley and Jez Humble ➡️ amzn.to/2WxRYmx
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CHAPTERS
00:00:00 Intro
00:01:20 Start
00:02:00 Edinburgh BCS, SoCraTes UK
00:03:07 Seb’s Intro to BDD
00:06:16 Law Change Forces Improvement in Testing
00:08:03 BDD Has Nothing to do with “Scripting”
00:09:57 Building a DSL - CISC OO Chipset for HiFi!!
00:12:25 Most Gherkin Scripts get this Wrong
00:14:42 Balancing Abstraction & Detail
00:18:11 NATS Defect - Failure of Abstraction?
00:19:40 A Developer’s Job is NOT typing code
00:24:03 BDD as an Incremental Approach
00:26:41 Balancing Design vs Evolution
00:28:21 BDD Enables Design Change
00:32:22 BDD is NOT about tools
00:34:32 Practicing TDD & BDD with Cyber-Dojo
00:39:21 Designing for Testability
00:47:01 Optimising for Learning
00:49:01 Training vs Coaching
00:56:05 Approaches to Learning
01:00:28 Contract Testing & Microservices
01:03:58 PACT & the PACT Broker
01:05:32 Microservice or Distributed Monolith?
01:08:10 Deliberate Design
01:09:09 Expert Advice & Its Pitfalls

[@CripplingDuality]

These are always great...would you please consider publishing the audio as podcast?

[@user-bp8mf3dp5r]

I agree, and they are one of the reasons I decided to fork out for a premium subscription to KZbin... no adverts, can download and play with the screen off. The perfect podcast experience while walking the dogs!

[@CripplingDuality]

​@@user-bp8mf3dp5rI find the experience of a podcast UI much less busy and more audio oriented. Also much less battery intensive.

[@brownhorsesoftware3605]

❤❤❤❤❤ I just found out I've been doing BDD for over 40 years. Complexity can also be the product of confusion. I cannot count the number of times I have turned confusion complexity into simple robust code with excellent results. I've spent a large amount of time fixing other people's code: my title was architect but my role was software cleaning lady.

[@WayneBagguley]

Yep, just write tests properly, there's no need for BDD as a separate entity or concept if you just write your tests properly and organise your code well. That's all it is.

[@user-cu7eo8tu9p]

Quality discussion, thoroughly enjoyed it!

[@DiogoMudo]

Wow, I didn't know there was a "tech coach" Career in such a high demand. On my 2 last jobs, I started out as a developer and got quickly hoisted to a product manager role, where I did the PO, scrum master and architect roles all at once. This year I was focusing on just being a full stack developer, because I thought that the product manager role was a death trap of fewer jobs, lower payment and insane amount of stress. I guess this "thing" should be talked more about

[@ClaysnowCoUk]

Specifically it's the Agile Tech Coach that is in high demand.

[@kotyo82]

Thanks for this informative sharing , as a junior QA i really enjoyed to listen Real Pro's view, and their experiences , one day hope to work your team or project , as junior QA padawan , thanks again Dave this beautiful channel and videos

[@ArkhKGB]

56:00 About junior members of a team: there is at least one thing they can add, a clean vision of the project. Which can help limit the effect of normalization of deviance.

[@ForgottenKnight1]

Session was very good. Too bad for the time constraint. MAKE MORE TIME NEXT TIME ! 😁

[@danielwilkowski5899]

Isn't "contract" just another word for "interface"? And if not, what's the difference?

[@blaiseutube]

If you want to practice and contribute to Cucumber, join us on Wednesdays for the CucumberBDD New Contributors Ensemble: kzbin.info/aero/PLrQMyTCtW0DZolJHWBLELne1EF2gqMaHc

[@ClaysnowCoUk]

You'll find the Cucumber team is very welcoming and inclusive.

[@jimhumelsine9187]

Seb is struggling with a phrase at about 35 minutes into the video. I think it's looking for something like this, "TDD: Easy to learn. Difficult to master."

[@ClaysnowCoUk]

Thanks for helping me out there !

[@comercial2819]

A distributed monolith.... you-just-nailed-it, unfortunately