In depth Challenger K'Sante Season 14 Guide to itemization

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Atreus

Atreus

4 ай бұрын

hope you guys enjoy this one, leave feedback below or feel free to ask any questions :)
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Item set:
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@kryo3605
@kryo3605 3 ай бұрын
tldr; for the video builds, quick bullet points --> New season, new items for K'Sante, more situational items, better mid/late game - Spectre's Cowl --> very good value into AP poke/DoT champs (teemo, cassio, singed), combos well if you're running Second Wind + Revitalize (good synergy with enchanters on supp later into game) - Frozen Heart --> Good value buy into atk speed amp champs (yas, yone) - Hollow Radiance --> Big bait buy, doesn't scale as well with HP as other tanks, doesn't match K'Sante isolating playstyle - Kaenic Rookern --> Better buy than Hollowed Radiance, good synergy with Shield Bash - Shield bash > Demolish, bad early, helps with K'sante weak lane phase - Approach Velocity + Biscuits --> Helps with laning and sticking power - Bami / Sunfire --> Situational in mid lane, can help with prio top in limited situations imo - Zeke's / Iceborn --> Iceborn for melee spacing (better built 4th/5th item due to HP scaling), Zeke's for ad ranged spacing - Force of Nature --> Very good buy for sticking power + MR stat stick - Sundered Sky --> Good last item, healing from this item is insane rn (14.2/14.3) - Jaksho --> 2nd/3rd item, armor/mr stat stick - Unending despair --> into bruisers/tanks, situational Experiment what's working best. I'm currently learning K'sante so I don't have the best representation of his current state. Some of this information was filled in with my prior knowledge, take this with a grain of salt. Aatreus' Twitch: www.twitch.tv/aatreus
@Kaatreus
@Kaatreus 3 ай бұрын
wonderfully said
@demetriuspurcell
@demetriuspurcell 4 ай бұрын
putting the item set in the description is amazing. You are a genius.
@alexorac9856
@alexorac9856 4 ай бұрын
just found out today about this channel. its amazing. keep up the good work fam!
@vitorluis1460
@vitorluis1460 4 ай бұрын
Great video man, really appreciate the help and good luck with your exams.
@tirnan14
@tirnan14 4 ай бұрын
Thank you for the guide. I enjoy playing tanks because the itemization actually matters and I'm so happy K'Sante got build flexibility. Good luck on your exams!
@brunod979
@brunod979 4 ай бұрын
really nice video, finally I don't have to go gauntlet gargoyle every game. good luck on your exams aswell
@aquibsayed5348
@aquibsayed5348 4 ай бұрын
nice work putting into it great job
@QuinnTalen07
@QuinnTalen07 4 ай бұрын
Thanks mate. You are the best. I wait for matchups guide. I actually feel like ksante is much healthier rn.
@thatonekidinschoolwhoeatsglue
@thatonekidinschoolwhoeatsglue 4 ай бұрын
With this guide I survived lane against a teemo thank you
@Bighomer5
@Bighomer5 4 ай бұрын
very in-depth and insightful!
@shinchila6424
@shinchila6424 3 ай бұрын
Missed you man, we all need some more k'sante content from you
@fewlocks8901
@fewlocks8901 4 ай бұрын
Good video dude, thanks a lot
@Tvdl2137
@Tvdl2137 4 ай бұрын
Hello, thanks a lot for the guide, I have 2 questions: 1) What would you suggest building as first item when not facing auto attacker like Yone in lane, but still ad? For example Garen - zeke's, sunfire or maybe just gauntlet? 2) Overall how important do u think gauntlet still is? Is it better than the despair one for example? In how many ganes in % are you building it on average?
@Kaatreus
@Kaatreus 4 ай бұрын
you have to think about 1. if you can even beat them at all, might be better to just play to outscale, and 2, what their trade pattern is. For example into a darius or volibear they like all-in fights, so its better for short and controlled trades with gauntlet, however into a sett or aatrox, any champion that revolves around cooldowns you can try to go a sunfire/or a zekes and just stick onto them if they waste something crucial ex: aatrox q3, sett w etc; into a garen I would consider enemy comp, if theyre melee ill go sunfire but if theyre ranged and mobile ill go gauntlet gauntlet is still good however its not as Op giga broken as it once was, its a good option to stay onto champions later into the game but I've found youre able to just skip it entirely if you have a Force of nature or spellbook, with FoN you are super speedy and Spellbook allows you to just flash on a crucial enemy, exhaust them or just heal/barrier their damage. despair is a different story, I rarely build it but when I do its into heavy melee comps where im guaranteed to get a good drain in fights. i would say i build gauntlet in 15-25% of my games and un ending despair probably like 5%, FH is too good to pass up for its value.
@Tvdl2137
@Tvdl2137 4 ай бұрын
@@Kaatreus I see, thank you for the detailed response, appreciate it :)
@henrikh3089
@henrikh3089 4 ай бұрын
Good luck with exams! Good video
@crazysans3311
@crazysans3311 4 ай бұрын
much needed, thanks :D
@user-um8ke5eb9v
@user-um8ke5eb9v 4 ай бұрын
Getting red buff after 20 mins helps his kit so much.
@D_C_M2002
@D_C_M2002 4 ай бұрын
Nice content dude
@diegolazcano2160
@diegolazcano2160 4 ай бұрын
What runes do you take with the new changes? No more armor or MR 😭. Ive been using move speed and slow resist.
@Alejandro-sm8mq
@Alejandro-sm8mq 4 ай бұрын
my bro awesome guide, you know this champ, would you do an overall s14 ksante guide? like laning, matchups, tips and tricks? mid game, micro macro etc
@TheRainbowwarrior666
@TheRainbowwarrior666 4 ай бұрын
That would be so nice!
@connorrall8516
@connorrall8516 4 ай бұрын
great video, just curious when would you go iceborn?
@Kaatreus
@Kaatreus 4 ай бұрын
when Force of nature isnt an option and enemies are mobile and you need extra sticking power/ controlled fights
@oxygon
@oxygon 4 ай бұрын
Is the new runes that are coming a nerf to Ksante early? Do you think our laning phase will be even worse? :/ Love the Channel and the video. Been really helpful
@Kaatreus
@Kaatreus 4 ай бұрын
yes, the new runes will hurt a tiny bit, laning phase is just awful so its better to live with Second wind d shield mid lane
@traficantedebatatas2612
@traficantedebatatas2612 4 ай бұрын
Ty for this!
@crazysans3311
@crazysans3311 4 ай бұрын
i tested in practice tool but if you take aftershock rune and w to proc aftershock into r and full combo it does a lot more damage and they get hit with the explosion as well, do you think aftershock could be viable in mid lane as a burst playstyle?
@crazysans3311
@crazysans3311 4 ай бұрын
theres a short window after w ult where you can fit in a q-auto with aftershock giving about 100 bonus ad at 2-3 items
@ayooludipe3493
@ayooludipe3493 4 ай бұрын
Yeah but he's explained that in lane/longer trades grasp is better because you can get 2-3 procs in a long trade which is better for healing
@wendyssmugness5316
@wendyssmugness5316 4 ай бұрын
very helpful like crazy stuff
@guilhermegoncalves1032
@guilhermegoncalves1032 3 ай бұрын
I love this.
@DorukOkur-rk2uc
@DorukOkur-rk2uc 3 ай бұрын
I just found your channel thanks m8
@PxSkills
@PxSkills 4 ай бұрын
New Atreus video let's fucking gooo
@tenno8028
@tenno8028 3 ай бұрын
Can you make a video on how to play against buffed tentacle woman i dont know how to lane against that. Ty for the item guide it realy helped me keep it up :)
@goldin976
@goldin976 4 ай бұрын
Love the video! Keep it up, when’s the next stream?
@Kaatreus
@Kaatreus 4 ай бұрын
after exams, hopefully i'll try to get one on the 27th (saturday)
@goldin976
@goldin976 4 ай бұрын
@@Kaatreus good luck on your exams!
@wyjebnik2zuk148
@wyjebnik2zuk148 3 ай бұрын
im not sure if you already talked and explained that, but my problem with ksante is that i can easily play laning phase but really strugle and i know that my teamfighting is bad, could you maybe do some video on how to teamfight as ksante?
@crazysans3311
@crazysans3311 4 ай бұрын
what rune shards do you go after the changes?
@SpencerD.
@SpencerD. 4 ай бұрын
yes just what i wanted
@efeokoro3960
@efeokoro3960 3 ай бұрын
What do you think about that tear item for tanks?
@shenku9615
@shenku9615 4 ай бұрын
i have some question about the Ksante Mid what do u use Unsealed Spellbook for ?
@Kaatreus
@Kaatreus 4 ай бұрын
when you cannot apply grasp in lane against pokey laners
@shenku9615
@shenku9615 4 ай бұрын
@@Kaatreus can u also use this for ranged top matchup ?
@arminarlelt7471
@arminarlelt7471 19 күн бұрын
I'd recommend you to try Death's dance. It's a very good 3rd item, it has great synergy with your E and during all out it makes you less squishy while still giving armor so it reduces Q CD.
@Kaatreus
@Kaatreus 19 күн бұрын
if u want survivability, steraks or sundered are the only exceptions, deaths dance is too much gold
@arminarlelt7471
@arminarlelt7471 19 күн бұрын
@@Kaatreus I don't think the cost is that much of a deal but that's because I only build DD when I'm ahead. If I'm even with my laner, or behind, I just build standard tank items. My usual build is Iceborn gauntlet/Rookern (order depends on lane match up), Dead man plate/Force of nature and then depends on how the game goes. I really love Dead man's plate on K'Sante I have good results with it. I don't know about very high elo, but in low diamond in EUW it works great.
@vymere9728
@vymere9728 4 ай бұрын
Just a short question, since I can't trust Reddit: is K'sante a one trick champ? I want to have him as a second pick, but don't know if he is too demanding.
@Kaatreus
@Kaatreus 3 ай бұрын
he requires you to spend lots of time learning him, however its a good payoff.
@user-to4wn
@user-to4wn 4 ай бұрын
Hey bro i dont knwo what am i doing wrong but i cant import your items can u help me with that pls ?
@jaybiven5926
@jaybiven5926 4 ай бұрын
So I'm confused, at 8:57 you said force of nature is impossible to stack unless you are playing all in and isn't as consistent. But at 18:56 you said force of nature is the most underrated MR item and talk about how op it is when fully stacked. So I'm kind of confused. You say you are building it though. Are you only building it into matchups where you can stick and go all in and its good in those specific matchups and bad elsewhere or are you just sending it and building it even if stacking isn't free. Thanks for the vid though man really informative
@Kaatreus
@Kaatreus 3 ай бұрын
at 8:57 I was saying its hard to get value out of force of nature in lane since it takes a bit to stack up, however later on in the game force of nature is a wonderful item for K'Sante in team fights. usually I just build kaenic when im against an ap laner
@jaybiven5926
@jaybiven5926 3 ай бұрын
@@Kaatreus ahh I see thank you for clarifying
@Marchew1200
@Marchew1200 4 ай бұрын
is spellboook runes still viable for mathcups whre you dont proc grasp?
@Kaatreus
@Kaatreus 4 ай бұрын
yes
@timra9309
@timra9309 3 ай бұрын
How do you copy the item set in description
@AliUguz
@AliUguz 4 ай бұрын
Wouldn't randuins be straight up better vs critters than frozen heart?
@ayooludipe3493
@ayooludipe3493 4 ай бұрын
Frozen heart is cheaper
@Kaatreus
@Kaatreus 4 ай бұрын
both are viable
@dewwwd3431
@dewwwd3431 3 ай бұрын
Ksante has a horrendous winrate this season on average it’s like 48% or something. However I seem to be having good games with him. Just have to play either very aggressive or very passive until 6.
@alessandrochinosi860
@alessandrochinosi860 4 ай бұрын
when do you go spellbook vs aftershock
@Kaatreus
@Kaatreus 4 ай бұрын
i dont go aftershock
@granddaddylurch9178
@granddaddylurch9178 Ай бұрын
Aftershock is actually trolling
@gekingro
@gekingro 4 ай бұрын
what u build against tanks as first item? For example nasus or Sion?
@Kaatreus
@Kaatreus 4 ай бұрын
depends on enemy comp but if youre snowballing going gauntlet or jak sho doesn't hurt
@gekingro
@gekingro 4 ай бұрын
@@Kaatreus ok thanks, thought jak sho as second item?
@granddaddylurch9178
@granddaddylurch9178 Ай бұрын
​@@gekingroit's situational dude use your brain Jesus christ
@user-di5gi4uo7x
@user-di5gi4uo7x 4 ай бұрын
Hey dude, do you do any coaching?
@Kaatreus
@Kaatreus 4 ай бұрын
dm me on discord
@tranducquang5912
@tranducquang5912 4 ай бұрын
I think you are sleeping on Randuins. That item + Frozen heart makes adc or ys/yone hits you for nothing. It gets buffed far too many times and it can replace gaunlet due to the slow. Its really really good. Agree with Kaenic/Frozen -> Jaksho though. Jaksho is definitely the best 2nd tank item in the game rn and nothing come close to it
@Kaatreus
@Kaatreus 4 ай бұрын
i think the passives do not stack
@granddaddylurch9178
@granddaddylurch9178 Ай бұрын
Telling the number player of champion he's mlnot doing something is wild.
@theduelist92
@theduelist92 4 ай бұрын
Demolish sounds really strong only vs tanks but then again vs tanks Bami items gain more value...
@user-di5gi4uo7x
@user-di5gi4uo7x 4 ай бұрын
Can you help me with the early mana problems?
@Kaatreus
@Kaatreus 4 ай бұрын
biscuits, don't use q, dont interact with enemy laner focus on cs and last hitting with auto attacks, q only if really really needed
@user-di5gi4uo7x
@user-di5gi4uo7x 4 ай бұрын
Thank you so much dude! You are the man!
@alexandertaylor1342
@alexandertaylor1342 4 ай бұрын
Do you offer coaching?
@Kaatreus
@Kaatreus 3 ай бұрын
dm me on discord
@feitopuns
@feitopuns 2 ай бұрын
the moment He said Hi yown Im done
@burakaltas7196
@burakaltas7196 3 ай бұрын
what do you do against a vayne top
@Kaatreus
@Kaatreus 3 ай бұрын
run second wind d shield and then frozen heart rush if enemy team is auto-attack reliant, if not, I opt for zekes rush and play for jungle gank, bait out her e before going all in
@Kian337
@Kian337 4 ай бұрын
Can u link the itemset?
@Kaatreus
@Kaatreus 4 ай бұрын
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@ralphrobinson7264
@ralphrobinson7264 4 ай бұрын
Thanks king, your content is amazing and I'm glad to be a K'Sante main when you're around. If this comment gets buried, could you link the item guide in the description? It'd help a bunch of other players looking for it@@Kaatreus
@Kaatreus
@Kaatreus 4 ай бұрын
done@@ralphrobinson7264
@ralphrobinson7264
@ralphrobinson7264 4 ай бұрын
@@Kaatreus thanks a bunch, you're an inspiration to us all!
@ofunyh8759
@ofunyh8759 4 ай бұрын
Ksante feels bad even with the new items the nerfs killed him imo
@Timeforspas12
@Timeforspas12 4 ай бұрын
Can't wait for Rito to nerf him to the ground again due to proplay. Can't wait.
@MidlanePapi
@MidlanePapi 4 ай бұрын
One thing i was surprised at probably because i recently started maining ksante is how heartsteel sucks on him. Was so excited for it and team with all the health scaling items
@vastolord_a7853
@vastolord_a7853 4 ай бұрын
I mean Ksante doesn't have any health scaling meaningful enough to warrant building it. You get plenty of health from armor items to max out his q cast time so you just build as much resistances as possible
@keagan5379
@keagan5379 4 ай бұрын
The item just sucks in general, it’s only good on dr frickin mundo. I tried it on Shen (who has a some decent hp scaling) and I was actually shocked how little value it gives you compared to other tank items, even with in multiple games where I reached over 1000 stacks I regretted building it.
@redllin3078
@redllin3078 4 ай бұрын
But FH+jacksho gives u 300 hp, q kd will be too high
@Kaatreus
@Kaatreus 4 ай бұрын
k'sante has bad health scalings so it isn't as crucial as resists early game
@marcusshepert105
@marcusshepert105 4 ай бұрын
ksante just needs a full rework, the champ is either broken or piss useless.
@isaaclecours4949
@isaaclecours4949 4 ай бұрын
Would be important to say that Frozen heart works wonders against auto attackers except Yi and Olaf
@charless3816
@charless3816 4 ай бұрын
Really? How so? Relatively new to ksante
@josebaltoomarnilson4762
@josebaltoomarnilson4762 4 ай бұрын
@@charless3816 yi and olaf are immune to AS slow when ulted
@atherlie5870
@atherlie5870 3 ай бұрын
Ok but wtf do you build into yorick lmao bro is a semi auto attacking ad poke mage basically
@LoLCoachGabi
@LoLCoachGabi 4 ай бұрын
i fell like second jak sho is pretty bad compared to other options as a second item i would only aim to second it against a mixed damage opnonnet perhapse like yone jax
@Kaatreus
@Kaatreus 4 ай бұрын
jak sho amplifies all your scalings through the roof and makes your midgame insane
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