IN DEPTH: Rest Stroke Technique For Gypsy Jazz Guitar

[@PeterPula-z9k]

Hello brother. I'm a gypsy. Growing up we always had a guitar around. And someone was always playing it. My dad , uncles , cousins. I started when I was 3 years old my idol was George benson Still is We never thought about what we were doing .... we would just hear something and play it. Never thought about the wrist , the up stroke or downstroke or rest picking But I gotta say your video is pretty much spot on I was always taught from my dad and uncles. Just play the melody I would say. What's the melody ? My dad would tell me. It's the part of the song that you hum. The words of the song I never knew about gypsy jazz To us we were just playing our guitars and making music. Great video sir. Well done

[@konstantinshmyrev2239]

Besides selling illegal substances? 🤔 does it come as natural as playing a guitar? My gypsy friend says that you ain’t no gypsy if you work properly 😂

[@vecernicek2]

This is the clearest, most concise explanation of the gypsy picking technique I've seen so far. Kudos to you, sir.

[@startraveler3157]

I was thinking the same thing

[@SvenJungbeck]

This is the most complete and best explained lesson, I ever saw on this topic!👍

[@enzolo2420]

Hey Sven, wir freuen uns auf Euch nächste Woche im Musikbunker Aachen!

[@berndf7437]

Yep😉

[@topisantakivi1512]

"That metallic clang is what it's all about"

[@landrafter]

Really comprehensive explanations here man. You answered a load of questions for me here. Much appreciated.

[@marbinmusic]

Glad it was helpful!

[@arcadicus_ezevius]

That guitar looks beautiful

[@tientje98]

very good video! especially appreciate the tips on what to do when changing strings and playing phrases. Thank you!

[@markfive936]

You're an excellent teacher. Many thanks for this instruction!

[@marcoborge2128]

You deserve the greatest applause for your skills and generosity! Blessings tocaor

[@MrIrab]

Thanks!

[@JHTenor]

Finally I hear someone play the least common gypsy style guitar! Loved this lesson.. I’m working on this technique with ukulele

[@music_ljs]

This was one of the most helpful RH technique videos I’ve seen since discovering this style of music. Thank you for giving me a baseline for some new practice routines!

[@marbinmusic]

Thanks bro! Did you check out the minor swing challenge?

[@iwerning]

A very talented teacher.

[@My6stringer]

Very nice teaching ❤ great insight for anyone playing guitar !!! Thanks !!!

[@oldtimetinfoilhatwearer]

Thanks for this. Learning about this so i can be heard over the fiddle and banjo in bluegrass jams.

[@eichpil]

¡Gracias!

[@juanpablovalencia]

To the point. Clear and so well explained. Thanks mate. Keep up the good work!!!

[@ianpeden2906]

Very helpful indeed. But the phrase is "one fell swoop" (6:36)

[@davidgerowmusicchannel]

best lesson i've ever had. thank you!

[@GypsyJazzSecrets]

super clear explanation, nice one Marbin! Robin

[@marbinmusic]

Thanks bro

[@travelingman9763]

​@@marbinmusicsubscribed! Years of Wes and Benson right hand. Not sure of all is positive using gypsy techniques. Seems it is most implrtant to play loufly on scoustic guitar using rounfwoundd. Cant imagine DJ or Joe Pasds playing what GB does on.: Ill Drink to That" with Jimmy Smith.

[@williamotule]

You're a great teacher man

[@marbinmusic]

I appreciate that!

[@nelsonwhite7386]

Just subscribed. Excellent explanation. I think when discussing strictly alternate vs this style one has to remember that ultimately it is how you want to express yourself at the given moment. Down strokes when changing strings adds a nice attack and a certain dynamics that sometimes gets loss with strictly alternate picking. Joe Pass often played with consecutive down strokes when changing strings. The more tools you have at your disposal the better. Great lesson.

[@princeworld4769]

Wow…this is soooooo clear explaination of how a guitar position should be❤

[@ianwilson725]

Thank you for this, really well explained.

[@Zozo-d7p]

You are a good teacher. Subscribed!

[@matthewschreiber2421]

I'm always learning.

[@Dptransom4u]

This is excellent. Great explanation and demonstration!

[@marbinmusic]

Glad it was helpful! You belong on our Patreon!

[@AmeryAbraham7]

Great and very efficient lesson! Thank you!

[@swede7160]

Great video!The reststroke,upstroke and whip is also a great technique for electric guitar.Listen to Ain’t talking bout love by Van Halen,I’m 100% sure he plays it with only downstrokes and that “whipping” technique.Yngwie and Eric Johnson are two other players using the forward pick slanting.

[@williamhibler5507]

TY D.great step by to understand an important part of Gypsy jazz

[@jameslifetimelearner]

Agree totally

[@jipielking9284]

This is perfect. Bravo, 👍👍👍

[@karelenhenkie666]

Took me so long to unlearn my technique and get the reststroke down. Makes for such a different playing style . I have so many licks that would not have happened without the rest stroke.

[@friasdiogo]

In 11:41 when talkin about the half reststroke or whipping motion, does the pick touch de string below or is the whip done without the pick touching it?

[@marbinmusic]

@@friasdiogo without

[@billtomalin8248]

Great analysis...I'll start again ! Thanks.

[@vishengro]

This is an essential lesson to equip a GJ beginner (like me!). Really well informed, explained and presented. 👍👍👍👍

[@marbinmusic]

Glad it was helpful!

[@Cherokee68]

Super explanation !! Thanks so much.

[@chrisblue1515]

Excellent lesson. Thank you!

[@BharatDev-u4b]

Great lesson 👍🏼👍🏼👍🏼 Many thanks 🙏🏼

[@Matthew-pf9mj]

Super helpful thank you 🙏🏼

[@marbinmusic]

Glad it was helpful!

[@violettownmicroenterprises1528]

thank you, that was very informative & appreciated.

[@rpsig250]

Crystal clear! Very helpful! Thanks!

[@ChazwardGuitarLessons]

Brilliant thanks well explained👍

[@TheZenguitarguy]

Really well presented and explained

[@jameslifetimelearner]

I’ve found that in alternate picking, my pick is traveling in a circular motion as switching strings. This causes tension and wastes time. Rest stroking and sweeping are more economical, the benefits are huge!

[@pauls_guitartrip]

Good explanation.

[@archtop65]

Hi Paul, indeed, you´ve been here already. And: I agree!

[@tomandmarley]

This was an incredible video thanks man 👍🏼 The part about not opening the wrist on sweeping but instead using the arm bond was a small detail I hadn’t baked in fully yet 👍🏼

[@gypsyjazzfest]

Excellent video !

[@SongSounder]

Great lesson, thanks

[@soulhealer20]

Really enjoyed this.

[@peterbrazier4370]

Excellent video well done

[@elephantricity]

i love practicing this picking style.

[@ilanarabin3068]

Thanks for sharing this useful and insightful element 🙏

[@cciwgc]

Nice and clear, I can try to change my technique now... 😏

[@milesthompson1776]

Good stuff man very clear

[@DaveClarkPdx]

That guitar sounds huge

[@germanabecerral3272]

La mejor explicación. Felicitaciones.

[@JohanK-e4t]

Thank you for your clear explanations. Quick question: when changing strings, does the wrist always have to remain parallel to the frets to allow the picks to keep the same angle of attack?

[@thelonious-dx9vi]

Very clear description, cheers. Is there any record of Reinhardt talking about his technique?

[@HABLA_GUIRRRI]

mr. Rheinhardt could not speak, he only had three fingers and sign language had not been invented anyway

[@nylonsteel]

Excellent

[@joshstansbury9586]

great lessons!

[@marbinmusic]

Glad you like them!

[@andrechimene6300]

Bravo… 2024 is all about this🙏

[@marbinmusic]

Year of the django

[@vecernicek2]

11:52 Exercise (for my reference)

[@markmcmyn8967]

Been paying attention to your gypsy jazz tech. and fusion stuff (Scott Henderson etc) Would you do some Jimmy Herring? This instruction is precisely where I want to go. Thank-you!

[@marbinmusic]

Already did some

[@rabinserious1]

A very useful video!

[@germanalbertobecerralopez4240]

Tremenda explicación.

[@ScottInk]

This is great! thx

[@Stephen_Galvin_Musician]

Beautiful playing and teaching thank you. Are you saying that you hold the pick so that it is protruding from the second phalange of the index finger, the first being the one with the fingernail?

[@marbinmusic]

Sort of over both with the surface Cantered over the last knuckle

[@Stephen_Galvin_Musician]

@@marbinmusic Thank you. I have always played with the pick centred over the fingernail pointing towards the left side (obviously) of the nail, but since reading your post I have tried using it like you say, a few times now, and it seems good, although I am not certain what exactly 'cantered' means, I imagine sort of 'balanced, with most weight pressing on one end of the pick.

[@liciniafrias860]

Is it normal to hit the upper part above the nail that bends from the index finger against the strings when doing an *Reststroke?

[@marbinmusic]

Reconsider your grip

[@armandosinger]

Fantastic lesson. I’ve been practicing in this style, and one thing I don’t get is the string muting strategy. I can no longer mute the low strings well with my right palm. Any tips? I’ve seen some say don’t worry about the ringing notes, or just use left hand techniques. But I can’t think of a good solution for muting especially the bottom 3 bass notes wile playing the higher strings. Thanks!

[@marbinmusic]

Gypsy jazz has no muting. It’s all about accuracy. Don’t hit strings you’re not playing and except sympathetic vibration as a part of the reverb sound that is in the style

[@marbinmusic]

Def join our Patreon for gypsy jazz deep dives! We do the often! Patreon.com/Marbin

[@armandosinger]

@@marbinmusic makes sense. So do you use a different technique with muting when you play electric guitar? I play electric more often but steel and nylon acoustics as well. Thanks!

[@marbinmusic]

@@armandosinger yes I do

[@armandosinger]

@@marbinmusic ah, got it. I’ve been experimenting with flattening my wrist more on electric, but still using a down rest stroke slant with an upward escape motion, like Eric Johnson. I think I’ll work on these 2 motions as they have some similarities.

[@vladimirverline8251]

the best!!!

[@AlexAlexander-c2r]

Great info thank you what kind of guitar is that it has a nice tone

[@marbinmusic]

It’s a doderer

[@matthewschreiber2421]

Shake it, shake it, shake it like a Polaroid picture.

[@jameslifetimelearner]

This is also the key to la pompe

[@dsweep9576]

It's interesting, Christian Van Hemert states that it's the rotation of the forearm, this has led to some confusion for me because i'm going off the information on your channel.

[@marbinmusic]

The forearm is rotating

[@theedguiTOR]

Hello! Thank you very much for this well explained lesson. Question, do you feel learning Gypsy picking helps you improve your other styles of playing, ex. Bebop, Fusion, rock... or do you just change your whole approach when switching between styles? Thanks again!

[@marbinmusic]

This idea that we play many styles is an illusion. You play the way you play and the more you move towards the things you find interesting the better you get. If you are curious about gypsy jazz it’s your mind telling you what you need to learn and once you feed that it might tell you to keep going or change direction. The growth stops when you stop giving your mind what it asks for and start telling it what you think it needs.

[@theedguiTOR]

@@marbinmusic Interesting! That´s a deep answer, reminded me of the things Hal Galper talks about, we get curious about things others do that actually reflect some internal process or need of expression. Thank you I´ll give this a lot thought.

[@Fenouil2020]

Your guitar have a great tone ! Which luthier made it ? Thank you for the tuto!

[@marbinmusic]

Hening doderer

[@nilsguitare]

great !

[@marbinmusic]

You belong on our Patreon !

[@HABLA_GUIRRRI]

america produces some great tendencies including v often a free uninhibited communication. never saw b4 so clear logical explanation including critical details mysteriously skipped by so many

[@threerockswong7140]

Do you use your elbow when you play the downstroke picking ?

[@marbinmusic]

Only to switch strings

[@tonwort]

The space between the body and the guitar should make you proud. You dont have a beer belly

[@marbinmusic]

Lol

[@tonwort]

Great learning video, I am already practicing@@marbinmusic

[@jeffhirshberg5171]

Is the Gypsy style applicable to electric guitar? Or at least is it with some modifications (e.g., wrist lightly resting on the bridge)?

[@marbinmusic]

Yes

[@jeffhirshberg5171]

@@marbinmusic Excellent. Thank you for replying. I play mostly through a high-gain amp with a thickly saturated tone. Hopefully, with enough experimentation I can find a way to implement this style cleanly.

[@DaveElwoodCutter]

@@jeffhirshberg5171 I've been experimenting with this as well and found that I prefer using regular old alternate or economy picking on electric guitar even when I use Gypsy Jazz vocabulary. The starting on a downstroke whenever you change strings is mechanically pretty limiting for fast lines (well depending on how fast you wanna go of course - even Joscho Stephan abandons this technique for really fast lines from time to time) and the reason you do it in the first place is getting a strong tone on an acoustic guitar (cause amplification wasn't that good when the style emerged), which isn't necessary for electrics. Remi Harris actually did a great video on this :) Not trying to discourage you just some food for thought. Hope it helps. :)

[@jeffhirshberg5171]

@@DaveElwoodCutter Thank you for sharing your thoughts. I'm coming to a similar conclusion.

[@0xkudz4i]

nice

[@smarfmart]

What guitar are you playing?

[@berndf7437]

🤔

[@sandyrothman2430]

What does "too Oriental" mean?

[@oldtimetinfoilhatwearer]

Orientalism in music is usually a feature of composition, not instrumental sound, but they're the same concept. Think rondo alla turca or Debussy's 'arabesque' or even the soundtrack to Aladdin or Prince of Persia. Essentially sounds that have been grouped into the western stereotype of 'eastern music' even though there is greater diversity in traditional music in 100 miles of Iran or any eastern country than in 1000 miles of the US- regardless, orientalism is music composed to fit that stereotype specifically by composers with no firsthand experience with real music from any region included in the stereotype, usually intentionally, and it has become its own style with it's own fans. By picking too close to the bridge on an acoustic guitar such as the manouche example in the video, the sound will have less bass, become buzzy, and have a snap or a cracking sound- all features one might associate with an oud or lavta, or even a bouzouki.

[@sandyrothman2430]

Question remains.

[@oldtimetinfoilhatwearer]

@@sandyrothman2430 if you don't understand from *that* explanation, then perhaps I didn't understand your question.

[@DevelopingNL]

How thick is the pick you use?

[@marbinmusic]

3.5

[@DevelopingNL]

@@marbinmusic which brand? Wegen?

[@marbinmusic]

@@DevelopingNL Killy Nonis

[@regularbloke7410]

is this volkert guitar ?

[@marbinmusic]

Nope, Marin

[@regularbloke7410]

@@marbinmusic thanks for info

[@collesaint-db8jy]

which guitar is that?

[@marbinmusic]

Doderer F Hole

[@KingJorman]

this was really clear but it still seems that that there are other ways. My current favorite gypsy jazz player Nando Reinhardt apparently does it quite differently: kzbin.info/www/bejne/jZKnhWR5bqxqo9ksi=hTghj2RUzWe0nfu0

[@marbinmusic]

Funny you should mention Nando since I bought that guitar in the link you posted from him and made a that vid with the same guitar

[@KingJorman]

@@marbinmusic that's a funny coincidence! I just love how expressive and natural he sounds.Yeah, so, what I am seeing in his style is a generous amount of thumb and index finger manipulation, which is just one more approach to using a flat pick I suppose. Interesting to see it in gypsy style.

[@axe2give]

just show us the technique dude, all this talk is literally blowing my brain

[@mountbeckworth1]

Sorry to be a pedant. Love your suggestions (and swagger), but it is "fell swoop" not "foul swoop".

[@marbinmusic]

Lol I honestly have been saying it wrong all my life

[@jbowerman50]

Interesting, about how long does it take to get the hang of gypsy picking? I've been playing for 50 yrs so this is going to be like starting all over again.

[@marbinmusic]

About 5 years to feel good