In Statistics, Probability is not Likelihood.

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StatQuest with Josh Starmer

StatQuest with Josh Starmer

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@suivzmoi
@suivzmoi 6 жыл бұрын
probability is the quantity most people are familiar with which deals with predicting new data given a known model ("what is the probability of getting heads six times in a row flipping this 50:50 coin?") while likelihood deals with fitting models given some known data ("what is the likelihood that this coin is/isn't rigged given that I just flipped heads six times in a row?"). I wanted to add this perspective because using the example in this clip, a likelihood quantity such as 0.12 is not meaningful to the layman unless it is explained exactly what 0.12 means: a measure of the sample's support for the assumed model i.e. low values either mean rare data or incorrect model!
@statquest
@statquest 6 жыл бұрын
That's exactly right! Thanks for posting your comment.
@mohamedrefaat197
@mohamedrefaat197 6 жыл бұрын
Thanks for clarification
@LuisPereira-bn8jq
@LuisPereira-bn8jq 6 жыл бұрын
That's what I was thinking. I've taught plenty of Probability courses, and I really wasn't sure what this "Likelihood" was supposed to be conceptually. The issue being that Likelihood as described here isn't really concept, it's just a computational tool used in the intermediate steps for fitting models. In fact, if you go a step further you turn the set of possible models into a probability space itself, and then Likelihood is itself a probability again.
@dreaminglucid1316
@dreaminglucid1316 6 жыл бұрын
Thank you for easy explanation!!! In addition.. The Probability of an event is 0... that is, 1/infinite. Therefore, We should compare the cumulative probability between events. But we can compare the y values between events. Definition of Likelihood in easy : y value of PDF. Countable Events : Likelihood = Probability. Continuous Events : Likelihood =/= Probability. Likelihood = PDF. Have a nice day!.
@suivzmoi
@suivzmoi 6 жыл бұрын
@@jamescollier3 when you say "10 percent" you are talking about probability (area under the curve). likelihood is instead just an instantaneous point on the curve. 0.12 does not equal "12 percent". it is at the moment just a number for one data point. you would compare it to another datapoint which would have its own likelihood given the assumed model, e.g. the likelihood of getting a 34g mouse is 0.15, or, it is more likely given the model that a randomly selected mouse is 34g instead of 32g. if you wanted to to quantify it in layman terms you would use probability instead. such as, given this model, 68% of the time the mouse should be 34g +/- 2.5g
@BulkySplash169
@BulkySplash169 3 жыл бұрын
I am a postdoc in neuroscience/psychiatry on a mission to brush up my stats knowledge. I can only repeat what others have already said: It's amazing how you break down and explain complicated topics in an understandable way. Thx so much for these videos.
@statquest
@statquest 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks!
@ExistenceUniversity
@ExistenceUniversity Жыл бұрын
When I was doing my neuroscience undergrad, I had to help the TAs in the Stats lab courses as I was the only person that understood math lol. Even still, I wish these videos existed when I was taking the course.
@viktor8050
@viktor8050 7 күн бұрын
This isn't complicated topics. Anyone can learn and understand this.
@Fahumsixtysix
@Fahumsixtysix 2 күн бұрын
Wild that a STEM postdoc would not know the difference
@patheddles4004
@patheddles4004 3 жыл бұрын
Right, so: - Probability is for predicting an outcome within a known system (eg. rolling fair dice) - Likelihood is for analysing an outcome when the system is not known for certain (eg. determining if particular dice actually are fair, or determining what curve is the best model for a dataset) I just learned a thing - thank you. :-)
@statquest
@statquest 3 жыл бұрын
yep.
@graymars1097
@graymars1097 4 жыл бұрын
After spending 2 hours on KZbin learning about probability and anything related to it, I landed on this video and I want to say this: I LOVE YOU
@statquest
@statquest 4 жыл бұрын
BAM! :)
@zerosiii
@zerosiii 6 жыл бұрын
Seriously, please don't stop making these! You really nail the topics in the most perfect time, and always explain them in awesome ways :)
@Hamromerochannel
@Hamromerochannel 2 жыл бұрын
I never thought I would be saying I like stats. As you grow older, you will see the importance of stats in the real world you start to appreciate it more
@statquest
@statquest 2 жыл бұрын
Bam! I think what you say is true. The older I get, the more I appreciate the variation that I see in the world around me. And the more I appreciate variation, the more I appreciate statistics as a way to understand it.
@denizersoz7012
@denizersoz7012 8 сағат бұрын
This is a major issue with the current Math education. We skip teaching the most useful part. Probabilities, statistics and how to make decisions should be way more integrated in our education system.
@elderhiker7787
@elderhiker7787 3 жыл бұрын
This is good stuff. Although I have taken 3 graduate level statistics courses, I struggle to explain the rationale behind the concepts. Which means, of course, that I lack deep learning of statistics. Your straightforward and graphic explanations are marvelous; even better than my stats professors. Thanks and I’m a subscriber now.
@statquest
@statquest 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you very much! :)
@becauserocks.5784
@becauserocks.5784 5 жыл бұрын
Duuuude, I've been doing data science for about 5 years now and stats for a lot longer and this is the best explanation every. I'm stealing this!
@statquest
@statquest 5 жыл бұрын
Hooray! :)
@mastermike890
@mastermike890 6 жыл бұрын
Your intro songs have really grown on me. You are like the Bob Ross of Statistics.
@ionahrapsa5146
@ionahrapsa5146 6 жыл бұрын
Very well put
@benphua
@benphua 6 жыл бұрын
Haha agreed!
@nathanlewis42
@nathanlewis42 6 жыл бұрын
Now I’m worried that if I subscribe I’m going to loose my taste in music.
@annapeng88
@annapeng88 4 жыл бұрын
Totally agree Bob Ross of Statistics haha
@immanuelkant7895
@immanuelkant7895 4 жыл бұрын
Bob Ross was a painter, not a musician...
@Stew282
@Stew282 3 жыл бұрын
Wow and gosh! I work a lot in risk management and have long argued for the appropriate use of the terms 'likelihood' and 'probabiltiy'. As far as most poeple are concerned, they are synonymous. People cannot understand the difference between the likelihood of a specific event and the probability of an event causing a specified outcome. Thanks for the simplification.
@statquest
@statquest 3 жыл бұрын
Glad it helped! :)
@skandagurunathanr4795
@skandagurunathanr4795 5 жыл бұрын
I was completely confused on the concepts, after referring lots of videos and confusing intuition I just came to this channel. The song you play at the starting of this video just refreshes the learning journey. The content you give with clear intuition makes me really very very very very very happy...
@statquest
@statquest 5 жыл бұрын
Awesome! :)
@MadhushreeSinha
@MadhushreeSinha 4 жыл бұрын
statquest makes feel very very very happy indeed!
@statquest
@statquest 4 жыл бұрын
Hooray!!! :)
@sarrae100
@sarrae100 5 жыл бұрын
StatQuest , you're the best when it comes to "making it Simple"
@statquest
@statquest 5 жыл бұрын
Thank you! :)
@sannwailhyan5113
@sannwailhyan5113 Жыл бұрын
I studied financial econometric for past two semester, now I am at third semester, doing special project/thesis, all the concept I studies, becomes linked after I watch your video, I just want to say I really appreciated your explanations. I am pressing likes for every videos I watch going forward. Maybe after my project, I will learn machine learning. Thank you.
@statquest
@statquest Жыл бұрын
Thank you! :)
@gurditsinghchandok1641
@gurditsinghchandok1641 4 жыл бұрын
came here after watching his logistic regression vids..the clearity of these topics is insane!! thanks a lot :)
@statquest
@statquest 4 жыл бұрын
Glad it was helpful!
@morganjones7428
@morganjones7428 3 жыл бұрын
Yeah, the clarity of this guy's explanations are off da chartZz!!
@DianNuryani-x5b
@DianNuryani-x5b 4 ай бұрын
this is the most understandable explanation out of all videos i've seen so far about the differences between probability and likelihood.. thankyou so much
@statquest
@statquest 4 ай бұрын
Glad it was helpful!
@abhishekchandrashukla3814
@abhishekchandrashukla3814 5 ай бұрын
Statsquest makes me feel so happy So very very very very very very very very very happy
@statquest
@statquest 5 ай бұрын
:)
@EnlightenNook
@EnlightenNook 4 жыл бұрын
I was trying to understand likelihood from yesterday but unable to understand properly, this the best video which explained me in very simple way. Thanks
@statquest
@statquest 4 жыл бұрын
Thank you! :)
@abdallahbahyabdelazimothma8359
@abdallahbahyabdelazimothma8359 5 жыл бұрын
wow!! that was the most clearly explained math video i have ever seen, thank you so much
@statquest
@statquest 5 жыл бұрын
Thank you! :)
@JMRG2992
@JMRG2992 5 жыл бұрын
I just noticed something interesting. In my native language (spanish) the word Likelihood doesn't have a special word to be defined, like Josh is saying in english where exists a difference between likelihood and probability, if one checks the translation of likelihood to spanish it would equal to "probability" so it appears on spanish the word just does not need to be differentiate but in english it is !
@statquest
@statquest 5 жыл бұрын
This problem is actually the same in English. In normal conversation, "probability" and "likelihood" are equal and mean the same thing. Only in statistics do they mean different things. This is why these terms are so easily confused, even by native english speakers.
@diegofabianledesmamotta5139
@diegofabianledesmamotta5139 Жыл бұрын
In spanish, some professors use the word "hope" in addition to "probability." Years later, I find this video and suspect a lot happened that I didn't notice. 🤨
@misiek_xp4886
@misiek_xp4886 Жыл бұрын
​@@diegofabianledesmamotta5139 In polish we used to call expected value "mathematical hope". We don't differentiate probability and likelihood too.
@ZetaFuzzMachine
@ZetaFuzzMachine 7 күн бұрын
@@diegofabianledesmamotta5139 oh boy, I'm lucky I studied Bayesian stats. in English!
@missregita
@missregita 6 жыл бұрын
as a student who majors in statistics, all of your videos are so helpful! thank you❤
@ian-haggerty
@ian-haggerty 9 ай бұрын
I think it's worth mentioning that "likelihood" is otherwise described as "probability density". We call it a "density" as it is literally the probability per unit mass (in this context). This also means that the *unit* of likelihood is the reciprocal of the unit on the horizontal axis, in this case: probability per unit gram. The choice of unit is arbitrary, and so the value of the likelihood is dependent on the unit of mass you care to choose. This also has a bearing on the numerical values for the mean and standard deviation. Josh-I love your work! Just offering up my slice for constructive feedback/food for thought / follow-up ideas.
@statquest
@statquest 9 ай бұрын
Thanks!
@sarthakdua3234
@sarthakdua3234 4 жыл бұрын
Crisp, concise and to the point! Instantly cleared my confusion!
@statquest
@statquest 4 жыл бұрын
Hooray! :)
@joshuadimick723
@joshuadimick723 2 жыл бұрын
"Jibber Jabber clearly explained" is t-shirt worthy!!!
@statquest
@statquest 2 жыл бұрын
That's a great idea! BAM! :)
@shenzou4778
@shenzou4778 4 жыл бұрын
StatQuest makes me feel so happy... so very very very very very very very very..... Happy! StatQuest! I mean seriously, yeah!!!!!! love this channel from China!
@statquest
@statquest 4 жыл бұрын
Thank you very much! :)
@mostinho7
@mostinho7 4 жыл бұрын
The likelihood of a specific data point (measurement) is the value of the pdf at that specific data point. (Values on the x axis and pdf/likelihood on the y axis) The probability for any specific exact measurement point, is 0 but probability of a range is the area under the pdf in that range The probability is of data given a distribution where as likelihood is the likelihood of a distribution given data.
@MaxMustermann-on2gd
@MaxMustermann-on2gd 2 жыл бұрын
@Mostafa I agree with what you 've written. Would you mind rephrasing that for discrete distributions? I get confused with the terms when differentiating between discrete and continuous distributions. :-/
@chiragvartak5658
@chiragvartak5658 4 жыл бұрын
Oh man. I had thought you did these songs at the start just for the memes. But I checked out one or two songs from your discography. They're prettty good!
@statquest
@statquest 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks! :)
@jaijeffcom
@jaijeffcom 4 жыл бұрын
I got another BAMM for you. Bam, subscribed! That was a vivid and accessible illustration. I never have to fret over this distinction again. Now I want to see the rest of these videos. Yay.
@statquest
@statquest 4 жыл бұрын
:)
@susovan97
@susovan97 5 жыл бұрын
I do see your point, but to me likelhood is just a probability mass or probability density, that's a function of the unknown parameters of the distribution, given a sample from that distribution.
@nikitaarora347
@nikitaarora347 4 жыл бұрын
Pls keep on making such videos, you might as well prevent me from feeling stupid. Thanks a tonne.
@statquest
@statquest 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks! :)
@michaelduncan5805
@michaelduncan5805 4 жыл бұрын
Maybe this seems overly simple for some, but this was awesome! Thank you!
@tunneloflight
@tunneloflight 3 жыл бұрын
A truly excellent and simple presentation of Bayes theorem and more importantly about how it can go horribly awry in practice. It is always important to remember as you so well describe that it is an estimation of probability conditioned on our state of apparent knowledge and not a statement about truth. For that we need the actual data from the world. It is all too easy to forget this and get into a recursive loop where this unintentionally instead becomes a tool to support confirmation bias.
@statquest
@statquest 3 жыл бұрын
noted
@possiblypoet
@possiblypoet 4 жыл бұрын
Starts at 0:32
@statquest
@statquest 4 жыл бұрын
Noted
@aishah8398
@aishah8398 3 жыл бұрын
my head was boiling coz of PCA and it's a blessing that I came across the statquest video ... thank you for making these topics so clear n interesting... stay blessed
@statquest
@statquest 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks!
@justtoleavecomments3755
@justtoleavecomments3755 5 жыл бұрын
Actually makes things so much more intuitive, thank you!
@statquest
@statquest 5 жыл бұрын
Hooray! :)
@somdubey5436
@somdubey5436 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks!
@statquest
@statquest 2 жыл бұрын
Wow!!! Thank you so much for your support! BAM! :)
@ob96275
@ob96275 6 жыл бұрын
Thank you for solving my questions that keeps staying on my mind for years. This helps a lot!
@Nakameguro97
@Nakameguro97 5 жыл бұрын
Wow! That was the clearest, most concise explanation of likelihood that I've ever seen! Many thanks. ^^
@statquest
@statquest 5 жыл бұрын
Thank you! :)
@aoihana1042
@aoihana1042 6 жыл бұрын
BAM! Thank you Josh, you explain concepts with such clarity and ease!
@xiukuiji747
@xiukuiji747 2 жыл бұрын
Wish I have came across this channel earlier, subscribed after just one video. Keep up the good work man. Awesome contents and nice lil song at the beginning.
@statquest
@statquest 2 жыл бұрын
Awesome, thank you!
@akhilachillara1845
@akhilachillara1845 4 жыл бұрын
Hi Josh, I really love how you simplify statistics concepts. After watching above video, I have this question, Does likelihood always have to be a single point and not a range? Can there be a question like, What is the likelihood of weighing a mouse between 32 and 34 grams? Will the likelihood also be a range in that case? Like between 0.12 and 0.13 or something like that?
@statquest
@statquest 4 жыл бұрын
That's a good question. The problem is that in normal conversation, "likelihood" and "probability" are interchangeable. So, in normal conversation, it makes sense to say "the likelihood of weighing something between 23 and 35 grams is X". So that's OK. However, the mathematical definition restricts it to a single point. So when we are deriving things we have to use the strict, mathematical definition. p.s. Thank you so much for supporting StatQuest!!! BAM!
@jabroomunda
@jabroomunda 2 жыл бұрын
Great work done till this point. Videos are great and reflect meticulous effort. However it seems we are multiplying oranges and apples in the hope of getting strawberries. I have searched lot of famous books but never seen anyone plugging in numbers into f(x) equation of normal or exponential or any continuous function in the hope of getting single discrete value. Infact we always take integral and put in limits to get probability of a range of values. Of x and that is F(x).
@jabroomunda
@jabroomunda 2 жыл бұрын
@@statquest single point is discrete
@MrSpiritmonger
@MrSpiritmonger 4 жыл бұрын
this guy is smart and he is great at explaining things. he is a true national treasure.
@statquest
@statquest 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks! :)
@ryanal9866
@ryanal9866 6 жыл бұрын
This is the best explanation I've ever seen! and I like your intro song as well!
@statquest
@statquest 6 жыл бұрын
Hooray! :)
@kaczucha3able
@kaczucha3able 2 жыл бұрын
Hello! I'm grinding for my categorical data analysis exam (what doesnt set me in the best mood) and have to say that the song at the beginning made me feel slightly better
@statquest
@statquest 2 жыл бұрын
bam! :)
@jojomojojones
@jojomojojones 6 жыл бұрын
You get an automatic like just for the intro! Thanks for the video.
@statquest
@statquest 6 жыл бұрын
Hooray!!!! You're welcome. :)
@surbhimishra6795
@surbhimishra6795 2 жыл бұрын
StatQuest make me feel soooooooooo happy 😊, thank you statQuest team 💜
@statquest
@statquest 2 жыл бұрын
Hooray! BAM! :)
@FariborzGhavamian
@FariborzGhavamian 5 жыл бұрын
This was a very clean explanation of probability and likelihood. Thanks!
@statquest
@statquest 5 жыл бұрын
Thank you! :)
@jaijeffcom
@jaijeffcom Жыл бұрын
I really like your whole channel. You make things very clear, and you give a charming and personable presentation of it all. Thank you!
@statquest
@statquest Жыл бұрын
Wow, thank you!
@DmGrass
@DmGrass 6 жыл бұрын
I am a little bit confused concerning the second examle because this is probability density function, not cumulative distribution function. Probability density function has probability density (not probability itself) on vertical axis. So why did you conclude that likelihood is 0,12? In my opinion, this is probability density. In order to see likelihood we have to swich to cumulative distribution function and look what Y-value correspondes to 34 grams.
@statquest
@statquest 6 жыл бұрын
The reason why we use a probability density function (PDF) is that a very large number, like 1,000,000 grams should have a very low likelihood - and the PDF ensures that is the case. If we used a cumulative density function (CDF) then the likelihood would be very large for a crazy large number, and that doesn't make sense.
@Maha_s1999
@Maha_s1999 6 жыл бұрын
In all likelihood you may not fully understand the difference between probability density functions and cumulative density functions :-/
@quAdxify
@quAdxify 6 жыл бұрын
That did actually also confuse me quite a bit at first as I thought the same, why is he describing the pdf. However, the thing is that normally you consider not just one sample but numerous, which form a product and that is also where it becomes clear what the likelihood is. I would suggest to maybe use multiple data points in the explanation since that is also how you are going to encounter it in most text books.
@statquest
@statquest 6 жыл бұрын
@@quAdxify That's a good idea, and that's what I have in all of the videos that show "likelihood in action", for the exponential, binomial and normal distribution: kzbin.info/www/bejne/pmS3XpKCgtepeMU kzbin.info/www/bejne/anyuh2yvj6iig5Y kzbin.info/www/bejne/ep-Zk2yceK6Ipq8
@hienthienthan2000
@hienthienthan2000 5 жыл бұрын
Note that likelihood=0.12 doesn't mean that, given the observed data, those parameters have 12% of being the true parameters. The likelihood, in this case, just has a relative meaning. The degree to which data supports one parameter value versus another is measured by their likelihood ratio. To prove why PDF can be used as the "likelihood" and why maximizing likelihood is a good strategy for estimating distribution parameters is a different story (e.g., we must prove that maximizing the "likelihood" is equivalent to maximizing the PDF, and the parameter estimated by maximizing likelihood converges to the true parameters exponentially when the number of observed data point increases) In different foundations of statistics, the likelihood can mean different things. In Bayes inference, the likelihood has an absolute probability meaning, which says that "Given the parameter is true, what is the probability that I can observe this data".
@ccuuttww
@ccuuttww 5 жыл бұрын
If someone still don't know What is Likelihood I will summary up in a simple sentence Likelihood is given u a bunch of data to find the parameter like mean and standard deviation For this video 3:16 the part of L(mean = 32 and std =2.5 | mouse weight 34 grams) should be L(Theta | mouse weight 34 grams) since it should be unknown
@vietta9204
@vietta9204 6 жыл бұрын
Holy sh*t! My head blown twice! Double BAM!!!
@statquest
@statquest 6 жыл бұрын
Hooray! :)
@TheAathi6
@TheAathi6 Жыл бұрын
Best explanation I have seen of probability and likelihood. Thank you so much..
@statquest
@statquest Жыл бұрын
Glad it was helpful!
@trilisser
@trilisser 6 жыл бұрын
Thank you man, THANKS A LOT seriously. Finally I got it, omg
@statquest
@statquest 6 жыл бұрын
Hooray!!! That's awesome! :)
@luisluiscunha
@luisluiscunha 5 жыл бұрын
Why do people down vote this? Really... Great job, Josh. Thank you very much. Kudos to you, and let Karma take care of the rest.
@statquest
@statquest 5 жыл бұрын
:)
@digital_harry
@digital_harry 4 жыл бұрын
Those are outliers, highly deviated from the mean.
@paulburger9904
@paulburger9904 5 жыл бұрын
Wish I had seen this before I made my Baysian classifier. Thanks a lot for a great video!
@LeCoolCroco
@LeCoolCroco 4 жыл бұрын
Paul Burger why should someone cresate a NB classifier if there are plenty of them?
@amitabhjayaswal
@amitabhjayaswal 6 жыл бұрын
Thanks Joshua! ...umm... at TIME 1:25 how did you calculate the area under the curve to be 0.29. Also, shouldn't there be units (of distance) to this figure? The weight-in-grams on the abscissa psychologically blocks me to think of the area in units of distance. Please help!
@amitabhjayaswal
@amitabhjayaswal 6 жыл бұрын
"height of the curve is scaled" ... what does this exactly mean?
@jedwatling
@jedwatling 5 жыл бұрын
I have the same question. If σ = 2.5 and you march out 2.5 increments from the μ of 32, the area under the curve would be 34%. I'm wondering how by marching out 2 increments from μ, the area above this distance equals 29% of the curve, rather than 27%. I've scoured the other replies and don't see anyone else disputing the point so I figure my understanding is flawed. Could someone please show me how he arrived at 29%?
@foucault9978
@foucault9978 2 жыл бұрын
@@jedwatling I am also confused by this. Like you, I think that the probability of a mouse weighing between 32 and 34 would appear to be 0.272. This is because the standard deviation is 2.5 (meaning 34.5 is the 68th percentile), and thus 2 would be 34. 2 divided by 2.5 is 0.8, and 0.8 multiplied by 34 is 27.2. I'm not sure how 0.29 was arrived at instead. I wonder where we're going wrong?
@samirajodeir1285
@samirajodeir1285 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for this video. I'm a little confused about what you have mentioned about probability. You mentioned that probability is the area under the curve of distribution for a given interval. However if data is only a single point, the area is zero and it would contradict with this equation L(parameters; data) = P(data; parameters)
@statquest
@statquest 3 жыл бұрын
For continuous data, likelihoods do not equal probabilities. This is only the case for discrete data.
@aldairjimenez1101
@aldairjimenez1101 Жыл бұрын
I must confess that I had a hard time understanding it too. (not knowing English is part of it, I've been playing the second video of the logistic regression series for more than 10 times) I think probability is when you evaluate the integral of the function in a certain range. And likelihood is when you evaluate the function at that point.
@Maha_s1999
@Maha_s1999 6 жыл бұрын
Excellent!! A lot of people are confused between likelihood and density functions. This makes it crystal clear. BAM! Subbed:-)
@statquest
@statquest 6 жыл бұрын
Awesome!!! Thanks so much! :)
@Bulbophile
@Bulbophile 6 жыл бұрын
Sound track needed throughout
@urjaswitayadav3188
@urjaswitayadav3188 6 жыл бұрын
Thanks Joshua! I love your video series on probability and likelihood :)
@gr4707
@gr4707 Жыл бұрын
This is so good. I’m looking to understand likelihood estimation function and just from this deep yet simple explanation I can guess what MLE is all about. Thanks!
@statquest
@statquest Жыл бұрын
bam! :) If you want to see some examples, see: kzbin.info/www/bejne/pmS3XpKCgtepeMU kzbin.info/www/bejne/ep-Zk2yceK6Ipq8
@prithviabilash7713
@prithviabilash7713 2 жыл бұрын
When he says "BAM", that's when I remember to press "Like"
@statquest
@statquest 2 жыл бұрын
BAM! :)
@choi77770
@choi77770 3 ай бұрын
This is the best explanation i've seen ever
@statquest
@statquest 3 ай бұрын
Thanks!
@domjervis
@domjervis 5 жыл бұрын
Couldn't help but type in Comment #300 I would have LOVED to be a Mathematician or a Statistician. But had to give up on that when I realized that I didn't have quite the "Talent Level" that my peers who were going in that direction had. Paul Erdos I'm not. A friend told me (please understand that this was in the mid 70s), "You're going to need AT LEAST a Masters Degree before you can go out and beg for a job. And in all likelihood, not only will you will need to write a Thesis to get that Degree, but you're going to have to pick a topic VERY Soon after you start your Masters Studies AT THE LATEST or you will be light-years behind your classmates. Most of them will have chosen their Thesis Topic during their Undergraduate days." The only topic I can recall having had Any interest in at that time was the Navier-Stokes Equations. But, I have seen where so-called "Authorities" argue about whether this is a physics or a math Equation. So much for that. Also, tried to read background material on the Hodge Conjecture and it might as well have been written in Sanskrit. Also, I was told, "If you can't get a job as a Mathematician or a Statistician, you can always be a teacher." Yeah right... I can honestly say that I never had even ONE teacher that "inspired" me in any Method, Manner or Fashion. And the number of teachers I would have loved to hire the Columbine Boys to "take care of" is Easily in two digits. So I sure as heck wasn't going to become one of them. Lastly, given my Life-long Hatred of school in general (me and Evariste Galois, among others), I saw that going into Accounting was a viable alternative, in that I was able to get a job with just the (then) four-year Bachelors Degree. The day I put all school in the rear-view mirror for Life, I remember saying, "This is how prisoners who just got paroled must feel." All that aside, to this day Math and Statistics remain two of my favorite hobbies. Since I was Lucky and Blessed enough to have been able to retire five years ago at age 55, I have all day, every day, to do what I LIKE to do, rather than what I HAD to do to survive. GREAT Video! Thank you, Sir! All Best!
@ReTr093
@ReTr093 5 жыл бұрын
Funny how things changed. Statisticians get hired straight out of school now,and no way in hell it's a teaching gig.
@domjervis
@domjervis 5 жыл бұрын
@@ReTr093 That's good to know and I am happy for each and every one of them. But I am curious. Do you know if the typical requirement for getting job as a statistician is a Masters Degree? Or can they become employed with a Bachelors Degree? Thank you for your response. All Best!
@palashsharma891
@palashsharma891 4 жыл бұрын
I came here after watching a 3Blue1Brown video on probability distribution. This video really made me understand that one better. Thanks!
@statquest
@statquest 4 жыл бұрын
Hooray! :)
@Francis-gg4rn
@Francis-gg4rn 5 жыл бұрын
Amazing videos, can you do a playlist on bayesian statistics?
@fardaddanaeefard8247
@fardaddanaeefard8247 3 жыл бұрын
I wish i'd known you sooner, keep up the good work!
@statquest
@statquest 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks!
@TheAmateurGuitarist
@TheAmateurGuitarist 5 жыл бұрын
Bumped into this video, and glad I did! Please make a video using a discrete distribution. That'll really help differentiate between likelihood and probability. The problem with Y values being in a continuous domain is that, by definition, we'll always have to just say that the P(mouse weight = 32) = 0, and there ends any scope for comparing it to L(32) :-)
@hitherthither5712
@hitherthither5712 5 жыл бұрын
Best video I have seen till now on 'Probability Vs Likelihood', Thanks!
@sonalidasgupta3562
@sonalidasgupta3562 5 жыл бұрын
The likelihood part confused me...what here is shown as likelihood sounds more like hypth testing
@statquest
@statquest 5 жыл бұрын
The best way to understand likelihood is to see it in action. Check out how likelihood is used to find the optimal exponential distribution given some data: kzbin.info/www/bejne/pmS3XpKCgtepeMU
@yqisq6966
@yqisq6966 5 жыл бұрын
It's best understood through conditional probability. The symbol P(x|y) means the "probability density of x conditioned on y", and it is at the same time the "likelihood of y".
@HazemAzim
@HazemAzim 4 жыл бұрын
Very interesting and nice perspective on probability vs likelihood .. that is new !
@statquest
@statquest 4 жыл бұрын
Glad you liked it!
@HH3222
@HH3222 5 жыл бұрын
Finally someone from the USA using metric measurements.
@BrunoPeitl84
@BrunoPeitl84 Жыл бұрын
According to my calculations, the likelihood when the mean is 34 is 0.16 and not 0.21, as said at 3:46. Is it really right?
@statquest
@statquest Жыл бұрын
You are correct. I have a typo there.
@erikthegodeatingpenguin2335
@erikthegodeatingpenguin2335 5 жыл бұрын
So the likelihood is somewhat like the derivative of the probability?
@phunmaster2000
@phunmaster2000 5 жыл бұрын
no, it's just the value of the distribution at that point, not the slope of the distribution
@burkean
@burkean 5 жыл бұрын
It sure seems that the probability is the integral of the likelihood.
@chyldstudios
@chyldstudios 6 жыл бұрын
the clearest explanation of the connection between likelihood and probability. more videos!
@qingchen2510
@qingchen2510 6 жыл бұрын
As you said ,so clearly explained,Thank you very much.
@statquest
@statquest 6 жыл бұрын
You are welcome!!! I'm glad you like the video. :)
@AshishKumar-xx3dx
@AshishKumar-xx3dx 3 жыл бұрын
as usual amazing videos by StatQuest
@statquest
@statquest 3 жыл бұрын
Glad you like them!
@flycanfly
@flycanfly 4 жыл бұрын
4:39 Hurray with no soul
@statquest
@statquest 4 жыл бұрын
Oh well. :)
@faridrezanajafi9565
@faridrezanajafi9565 4 жыл бұрын
Very simple description of probability and likelihood. Well done!
@statquest
@statquest 4 жыл бұрын
Thank you very much! :)
@mAcCoLo666
@mAcCoLo666 6 жыл бұрын
Strange, almost every book I've read so far talk of P(data|distribution) as likelihood, and P(distribution|data) as posterior. Am I missing something here? 🤔
@statquest
@statquest 6 жыл бұрын
That is very interesting. The second part, P(distribution | data), is in fact a posterior, as you suspect. The "P" is the important part. It tells you to integrate the function. If it were "L", then we would a likelihood, and that would tell you evaluate the function a specific point. The first part, however, P( data | distribution) being called a likelihood is confusing. Even Bayesian folks tend to observe the "P" means "probability" and "L" means "likelihood" convention. That said, in Baysian statistics, you'll see likelihood functions written like this L( data | distribution). However, in this case, they are calculated just like L( distribution | data). The difference being that Bayesians let the parameters be random variables, and non-Bayesians only let the data be random variables.
@ronaldjensen2948
@ronaldjensen2948 5 жыл бұрын
P(distribution|data) = [P(data|distribution) * P(distribution)] / P(data) or in Bayesian Terms posterior = likelihood * prior. In the likelihood function we are given a fixed data set (the measurement) and we are postulating the distribution that data set came from. This is what Josh says in the video. Also, P(data) is a constant to make the posterior integrate to 1.
@ShermanSitter
@ShermanSitter 4 жыл бұрын
4:24 is a good "pause and ponder" moment. :) Very well said, and great slide!
@statquest
@statquest 4 жыл бұрын
I love "pause and ponder" moments. I actually have a few in my videos (I couldn't resist quoting 3b1b! - but it's also a sort of inside joke for people that know his videos.)
@ShermanSitter
@ShermanSitter 4 жыл бұрын
@@statquest Yes, I was wondering if you would get that reference. :) Side question after also watching and enjoying both your naive and gaussian bayes videos, I often 'ponder' that bayes is used for machine learning a lot, but not so much in social psychology and applied research. Do you have a video and/or thoughts on that? I think we need to try to seriously work on the over reliance on NHST in those applications and would love to learn more on that.
@statquest
@statquest 4 жыл бұрын
The reason why we use NHST is that it is easy and fast. Bayes is neither. Sure, there are toy examples that make Bayes look easy and fast, but the reality is much more complicated. This example, Naive Bayes, is barely Baysian, which is why I don't spend a lot of time focusing on that aspect of the method. That being said, I'm all for doing the right thing, and not just the easy/fast thing. It's just that until MS Excel and other spreadsheet programs start offering Bayesian functions, it will be an uphill battle to get broad adoption.
@ShermanSitter
@ShermanSitter 4 жыл бұрын
@@statquest Thank you for the response. I agree on the 'easy and fast' note. I do feel that the frequentist (Fisher, et al) approach had a huge head start due to the pre-computer days, and now our capabilities have finally caught up to Thomas Bayes. Just know there are others who are fighting this uphill battle with you!
@not_a_human_being
@not_a_human_being 6 жыл бұрын
great vid, but I almost feel that it would've been much more clear with discrete distribution.
@statquest
@statquest 6 жыл бұрын
It's true - a discrete distribution would be a little easier to understand, but most people do t-tests, which are continuous, so I figured I'd start there. however, I may do another video that shows the discrete version.
@alifirhas3550
@alifirhas3550 3 жыл бұрын
The way of you speaking is very similar to Baldi in Baldi's Basics in Education and Learning. Which makes me terrified some times, but i'm generally more terrified how rapid i learn watching your videos. Thank you.
@statquest
@statquest 3 жыл бұрын
bam!
@Larimerst
@Larimerst 6 жыл бұрын
Yes! I'm finding this funny, fascinating and awesome! But I am very high.
@roxm4356
@roxm4356 4 жыл бұрын
You are the best and easiest in statistics
@statquest
@statquest 4 жыл бұрын
Thank you! :)
@georgesmith3022
@georgesmith3022 5 жыл бұрын
i thought that the probability of a certain value in continous distribution is always 0. you dont have discrete weights like 32, 33 etc, but 32.00000001 etc. the probability of a mouse being exactly 32 is zero.
@statquest
@statquest 5 жыл бұрын
That is exactly right. However, the likelihood for a single point is not zero. The reason for this might be more obvious if you saw likelihoods in action. Here's a video that shows how likelihoods are used to estimate parameters for the exponential distribution: kzbin.info/www/bejne/pmS3XpKCgtepeMU
@georgesmith3022
@georgesmith3022 5 жыл бұрын
@@statquest ok I meant it tends towards 0. So even 0.1 is a big value. But i believe u know better math than me.
@statquest
@statquest 5 жыл бұрын
@@georgesmith3022 No, it's zero. For example, the area of a rectangle that has 0 width is 0. So the area under the curve of a continuous statistical distribution, like the normal distribution, with 0 width is 0.
@debatradas1597
@debatradas1597 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you so much... I'm glad I got to learn something new today
@statquest
@statquest 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks!
@jms019
@jms019 5 жыл бұрын
The probability of a mouse weighing exactly 34g Is IS ZERO
@haraldkeilhack4266
@haraldkeilhack4266 5 жыл бұрын
Right! It seems he talks about the probability that the mouse has a weight between 33,5 and 34,499999 g. And then we talk again about an area under the graph as before. So the whole video is a fail.
@MrCmon113
@MrCmon113 5 жыл бұрын
Yeah you need to define conditional probabilities differently for that case.
@xnoreq
@xnoreq 5 жыл бұрын
Yes but he's not talking about the probability of the mouse weighing exactly 34g. The mouse weighs 34g. It's a given. A data point. The question is how likely this is given a distribution. That's what the likelihood is for.
@MrYouzilyj621
@MrYouzilyj621 5 жыл бұрын
he never said probability, he said likelihood.
@wernersmidt3298
@wernersmidt3298 5 жыл бұрын
You are absolutely correct, but please refer to the title of the video. *the likelihood of the **_distribution_** (with the stated parameters) given you had a mouse of 34g*
@IslamAshraf-u6h
@IslamAshraf-u6h Жыл бұрын
Thank you for keeping things very clear!❤
@statquest
@statquest Жыл бұрын
Any time!
@bakedutah8411
@bakedutah8411 6 жыл бұрын
Shyeah, right! Try telling this to the editors of the Wikipedia article on Probability.
@lazregmohamedlamine4847
@lazregmohamedlamine4847 6 жыл бұрын
thank you, you upload this statquest in the right time!!,best
@MrCmon113
@MrCmon113 5 жыл бұрын
That still makes "likelihood" a probability though.
@anaccountmusthaveaname9110
@anaccountmusthaveaname9110 5 жыл бұрын
no
@empireempire3545
@empireempire3545 5 жыл бұрын
no
@ronaldjensen2948
@ronaldjensen2948 5 жыл бұрын
Not exactly. Probability is the integral from a to b of f(x)dx, likelihood is just f(x). If you remember calculus, any integral from a to a is zero, even if the interior function is not.
@MrCmon113
@MrCmon113 4 жыл бұрын
@@ronaldjensen2948 I've randomly stumbled on the same video again and yes, it says that likelihood is the PDF. I don't know how me from ten months ago arrived at his conclusion.
@sachinsh9398
@sachinsh9398 6 жыл бұрын
Just awesome !!! The concepts are made so so simple to understand. Big thumbs up to you :)
@statquest
@statquest 6 жыл бұрын
Hooray!!! I'm glad you like the video! :)
@justinking5964
@justinking5964 4 жыл бұрын
God ! So hard have I been through, to finally find a intelligent guy to know probability.Hi Josh Starmer Can I talk to you in private? Can I make friends with you.
@justinking5964
@justinking5964 4 жыл бұрын
Can I talk to you in private? Can I make friends with you. edenlove 828 hotmail.
@PedroRibeiro-zs5go
@PedroRibeiro-zs5go 5 жыл бұрын
Man, right to the point, as usual!! Thanks!!!
@statquest
@statquest 5 жыл бұрын
Thank you! :)
@liamhoward2208
@liamhoward2208 6 жыл бұрын
Anybody else think he was talking about tiny weights that you put on a scale when he said mouse weights? Lmao
@statquest
@statquest 6 жыл бұрын
I love it! :)
@Exceltech810
@Exceltech810 2 жыл бұрын
Great explanation. Please shared more videos for statistics in grad level. Thanks!
@statquest
@statquest 2 жыл бұрын
Will do!
@simonty1811
@simonty1811 6 жыл бұрын
did Donald Trump write your lyrics? It was very very very good. Studying stats from Sydney. I come here because I don't understand uni my lectures :(
@statquest
@statquest 6 жыл бұрын
Hooray! I'm glad to hear that the video was helpful. :)
@gouravkarmakar9606
@gouravkarmakar9606 4 жыл бұрын
Got my problem solved ....quite well explained josh
@statquest
@statquest 4 жыл бұрын
Awesome! :)
@lakshaydulani
@lakshaydulani 6 жыл бұрын
Nice explanation but i m afraid i still dont understand whats likelihood..can somebody pls explain in plain words..josh has explained in terms of formula
@amerel-samman9929
@amerel-samman9929 3 жыл бұрын
say you measure one mouse. ONLY one mouse. You get 34g. You know nothing about mice? according to your single experiment it is probably best to put the mean of mice around 34g because that gives the max likelihood for your experiment (i.e because the mean has highest probabilityy. For all you know now the mean is 34g and thats it but you only did 1 now you go ahead and do 2 mass weights one at 34g and one happened to be at 30g. According to your original distribution where mean was at 34 this would not give maximum likelyhood because the mass at 30g is very little represented. You will have to shift your distributiion to MAXIMIZE likelihood. To maximize the probability of all measurements
@statquest
@statquest 2 жыл бұрын
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