In the Mind of Ratcliffe (Pocahontas): Savagery from a Lack of Morals

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@camboom4467 Жыл бұрын

The real Ratcliffe was skinned alive by the natives, It's true look it up.

@FinnaGetCozy Жыл бұрын

The real governor Ratcliffe worked hard to develop good relations with the natives, knowing that trade with them was their best chance of survival if s ship didn't return for another year. The natives took advantage of his kindness/trust, and after inviting him into their camp to discuss trade, ambushed his men then tortured and burned Ratcliffe alive. Who's the savage?

@antirealist Жыл бұрын

Great comment. It's the truth and too many people are too caught up in "progressive" delusions of race and oppression to face the reality that American Indians and their lives, when compared to the lives most humans today, were not gentle or peace loving by any means. In fact, they loved violence, found meaning in it, and took pride in inflicting as much of it as possible on enemies (both within and outside their tribe) when the threat of retaliation was deemed low enough. Human beings are by nature quite savage and to pretend otherwise is a delusion on the order of denying the moon landing and an ethical repugnancy on the order of denying the Holocaust. "During The Starving Time in December 1609 or early 1610, (Jamestown Governor) Ratcliffe and 25 fellow colonists were invited to a gathering with a group of Powhatan Indians. They had been promised they would receive corn by way of trade, but it was a trap; the Powhatans ambushed and killed them, and Ratcliffe was taken to the village to suffer a particularly gruesome fate. He was tied to a stake in front of a fire and flayed by the women of the tribe with mussel shells, with pieces of his skin tossed into the flames as he watched. The account of his death was relayed by the surviving Captain William Phettiplace, and recorded by George Percy. As a consequence of the man's misfortune, he was given the nickname Luckless Captain Ratcliffe." If that's not "savage" I don't know what is.

@emilygordbort7300 6 ай бұрын

@@antirealistYou're not entirely wrong but this is kind of reductionist I'm a progressive leftist, all cards on the table, and find what you said to be very racist, but i'm not an indigenous american so I'm not really the person to go off about it. I'm sure you know that what you said is not politically correct, so we can move on to the productive topic of discussion. Let us look at, for instance, the Nahuatl ("Aztecs") as an example of the indigenous americans as a culture. We all know about the human sacrifice, but they were much more complex than that. They had running water, complex infrastructure, city planning, all sorts of impressive feats to their name, and if I'm not mistaken (though don't quote me on this, I'll need to research it more), many or most of their human sacrifices were priests who believed that sacrificing themselves was a great honor. They can be compared to the romans, the mongols, or even the British themselves in other parts of the world. They've committed several morally repugnant acts over the course of history but they as a body were not necessarily evil people, or "savage" by an6 means. We can go back and forth all day tallying up the score and figuring out who did what, but ultimately we're all kind of just humans in different situations. Oppressed peoples aren't perfect beings incapable of wrongdoing just because they're oppressed, the reason racism is bad is because it's treating an entire demographic as worthy of oppression with little to no justification. It's not even because "some of them did something evil" most of the time, it's usually "they're inferior to us, so we have the right to abuse them." So ultimately, while I agree with you on the point that humans in general are capable of some pretty heinous acts, and to pretend otherwise based on the race of the person committing those acts is, itself, racist, the issue most people take with racism is that it generalizes all people of a certain race as being good/evil based on qualities entirely unrelated to morality, and comes up with justifications after the fact. It's not logically sound, and in fact is not truing to be. It's something that people use to justify hurting other people when they don't have any better excuse.

@angkhoa1216 6 ай бұрын

@@emilygordbort7300"I am a progressive leftist" thanks for saying beforehand so i can stop reading your wall of texts

@emilygordbort7300 6 ай бұрын

@@angkhoa1216 If that's all it takes to dismiss my point, I'm happy to have saved you the time. Have a good day. (I mean this sincerely, to clarify)

@timothyvanhoeck233 6 ай бұрын

@@emilygordbort7300 Way to destroy any and all credibility you might've had in your very first sentence. So-called "progressives" are in fact regressive in both their ideology and their tactics. They make excuses for criminals, believe anyone who doesn't look like them or disagrees with them is a lesser being, both in mind and body, they never accept responsibility for nor learn from their mistakes, they lie, cheat, steal and censor their opposition, they seek to deprive their enemies of their human rights, particularly the right of self-defense, and they're obsessed with killing babies.

@shareefhaddad2377 Жыл бұрын

I never realized how much Big Jack Horner reminds me of Ratcliffe until recently. Though I believe the latter is arguably more insecure and sympathetic than the former.

@rosapayne5660 Жыл бұрын

This is all the stuff that makes Ratcliffe such an underrated villain. Some people say that, like Frollo, he's very realistically characterized because there are people like him out there. As his lead animator once put it, as the villain, he would have to carry the negative aspects of the story which, in this case, is greed and racism so the audience would "sit back, look at him, and think 'I don't identify with him in the least'." I mean, he threatened death by hanging if anyone 'so much as looks at an Indian without killing him on sight.' This, on the side, made him a good part of The Sorcerers of the Magic Kingdom game while it was around as one of Hades' recruits.

@tinselbmerryweather 2 жыл бұрын

David (the voice of Ratcliffe) was a friend of mine so im thankful for this video. Thankyou OCT 31 was his birthday

@inthemindofavillain 2 жыл бұрын

That was a great voice!

@Yellowguy0619 10 ай бұрын

Awwe! :)

@georgekostaras 2 жыл бұрын

I remember this guy, he was the first villain I genuinely hated.

@italym6410 Жыл бұрын

I had crush on him

@slipstreamxr3763 Жыл бұрын

The real John Ratcliff was actually much more amicable towards the Powhatan tribe, he actually wanted peace among the natives and the settlers and was governor after both Chief Powhatan and Pocahontas had died and the tribe was then being run by Powhatan's brother who was a lot less friendly towards the settlers than his brother and niece had been. Among rising hostilities on both sides, the Governor that Ratcliff was based on was captured and tortured by the Powhatan before being killed. John Smith on the other hand was a narcissistic douche canoe who liked to paint himself as a great hero and explorer, turns out Chief Powhatan was likely never going to execute him, and he grossly misinterpreted an initiation ceremony into the tribe as an attempt on his life. There were good and bad people among both the settlers and the natives just like nowadays and the conflicts were much more complex and political than most people realize. There was no one side that was purely good or evil in the end, most were just people who wanted to live their lives by what they felt was right, but unfortunately as time went on the settlers and natives' ideologies and moralities ended up clashing with one another and sadly as a result conflict broke out.

@italym6410 Жыл бұрын

@Ethan and Jesus Productions I love him

@jonathanwells223 8 ай бұрын

@@italym6410based

@italym6410 8 ай бұрын

@@jonathanwells223 ha?

@garveyneal1672 2 жыл бұрын

Can you do Gaston 1991 version, Jafar 1992 version, Andrea Bellmount a.k.a The Phantasm from Batman: Mask of the Phantasm, Scar 1994 version, Sid Phillips from Toy Story, Judge Claude Frollo from The Hunchback of Norte Dame, Rasputin from Anastasia, Pharaoh Rameses II from The Prince of Egypt, and Mrs. Tweedy from Chicken Run?

@dareolumide8287 Жыл бұрын

Disney did this guy dirty

@jonathanwells223 8 ай бұрын

Disney did a lot of people dirty, started around the 80’s. Lot of commies got away, that’s all I’ll say about that.

@Loekman3 Ай бұрын

I don't know man, Magnifico exists

@razorshark9320 Жыл бұрын

This villain is one you really love to hate. Can you do a video on Steele from Balto, Rager from Sheep and Wolves, Bellweather from Zootopia, and Black Wolf from The flight before Christmas.

@SKathleen615 27 күн бұрын

Rip his voice actor David Ogden Stiers

@maurycyoseka1057 4 ай бұрын

John: "Wiggins, why do you think those savages attacked us?" Wiggins: "Because we invaded their lad, dug up their land and cut out their trees?" 6:24

@IzabelaZuzannaKuraszkiewicz Жыл бұрын

He also shoot a man named Namontak( or something like that).Kokoum took him back to the Village but he was sick and in pain and probably died.

@teamsteed1 3 ай бұрын

Yep. 😢

@chadpeterson5698 2 ай бұрын

Ironically, the real life version of Ratcliffe was actually one of the better settlers in terms of morality.

@kendonl.taylor5111 Жыл бұрын

@In The Mind of A Villain Ratcliffe is on the catergory of Fictionalized version of true events on Villains wiki.

@dylanthomas385 2 жыл бұрын

We need more yugtit pinibutter and jelly and sodas 🥤

@dylanthomas385 2 жыл бұрын

Wrong 😑 place that was supposed to be a text

@DwightLivesMatter 2 жыл бұрын

@@dylanthomas385 xD

@coryberger77 2 жыл бұрын

You should do a Homelander video please.

@edizicu9853 Жыл бұрын

You forgot to talk about his actions in part 2.

@LCCWPresents 4 ай бұрын

I guess you should do a part 2 for the sequel

@0valeyes Жыл бұрын

Don't know if you know about the Owl house but can you do a inside the mind of the villain video on Emperor Belos?

@gabrielhall9099 2 жыл бұрын

I wonder if you can do Elliot Carver from Tomorrow Never Dies??

@rickywilcoxson6933 2 жыл бұрын

Get of my head!!! , I was just thinking about him

@camboom4467 Жыл бұрын

Ratcliffe's the captain of his own mistakes.

@DWuniverse-2010 Жыл бұрын

Ya ratclith was the scariest 1demenchonal beestI’ve ever seen

@kryptonianpowers 3 ай бұрын

Not the 19th Century; the 17th Century.

@CharlietheWarlock Жыл бұрын

In real life, hes completely different than this

@JacobM.S 8 ай бұрын

He got killed by natives

@Guest_000-s9r 10 ай бұрын

Is he pure evil or broken please tell me anyone??

@Mario87456 9 ай бұрын

According to morons on Villains Wiki they say Pure Evil (although that might be because of the second movie that people rather not talk about). Either way it makes me feel uncomfortable when a villain based on a real person is considered pure evil no matter who it is.