In The Presence of Evil: Face to Face with Jeffrey Dahmer - Part 1

[@iknowyouvebeenwaiting]

The fact that it’s been over 30 years and the victims are still grieving the pain and loss is so sad

[@deerg1rl]

well yeah it’s pretty brutal what’s been done to them

[@noah1602]

@@deerg1rl right on top of it being thrown in there face without their permission…

[@SoloDragon5393]

@@noah1602 again, by netflix.

[@deerg1rl]

@@noah1602 wdym without permission?

[@noah1602]

@@deerg1rl exactly what I said

[@fluteloops22]

That man shaking, putting his head down, crying his eyes out, absolutely breaks my heart. I wish I could give him a huge hug. The pain he has lived with all of these years is unimaginable. 💔💔💔

[@sunshinepoppy8459]

Really? How do you know what he is saying is even true? People will do and say most anything when being paid a lot of money!

[@fluteloops22]

@@sunshinepoppy8459 What money is he getting? He’s genuine, I can tell by his body language.

[@sunshinepoppy8459]

@@fluteloops22 Money from the Dr. Phill show...duhhh! 💵💵💵

[@sunshinepoppy8459]

@@fluteloops22 Your body language analysis is way off!

[@dogmom1627]

@@sunshinepoppy8459 I completely agree! There’s something about these two guys stories that doesn’t add up…says he was stabbed 30 times but only has a ‘fingerprint’ on his face…and supposedly, the ‘kit’ got thrown away by a nurse but the nurse can’t be reached. 🤔

[@ashj0]

Although it’s tragic what happened to these two, it’s kind of nice that they both gained what seems like a best friend in each other. They’re really respectful of each other.

[@saulgoodmangaming3460]

Do not ever sexualize a serial killer

[@fooddrugadministrator4079]

Everyone always think lust killing is always about sexual arousal!

[@sandywagner9154]

Huh?

[@miss-astronomikal-mcmxcvii]

Please say this to the TCC Tumblr fangirls directly. They most certainly need to hear that message.

[@saulgoodmangaming3460]

@@miss-astronomikal-mcmxcvii Will do friend. I honestly couldn’t agree more

[@seaneastman8817]

I'm a former Tennessee State Correctional Officer. Was assigned to Death Row for one year. It always amazed me how Death Row groupies exist and befriend these evil killers. They come visit, write letters, put money on the inmate commissary trust fund and call. As a Correctional Officer, I wondered if the victim's loved ones received this much care and desire.

[@serin7318]

Oh My Lord that last sentence

[@mimi0424]

@Sean Eastman my mother was killed by my Stepfather when I was 2 yrs old..it was infront of myself..my sister age 6 and brother his son was 9 mos old. He then went to my grandparents and told them he suffocated her. She was 27...he was treated so well. He'd get special jobs from the Warden..even at his own home. He'd meet ppl who would send him $$ on his books etc thru a pen pal group. He was the 1st prisoner in Delaware to die of Covid & a lady actually wrote what a "good person" he was blah blah..I responded to that obituary post to let her know, this nice man took MY mother. I'm glad he's dead, but even at 46 still yearn for my Mother. Thx for reading..sorry so long.

[@serin7318]

@@mimi0424 I read what you shared thank you for being long.

[@bessie169]

I worked with a woman who turned out to be a Ted Bundy groupie. The day before he was to be executed, she had a manic psychotic episode, in the office. Eventually, 911 was called, and she was in a facility for 6 months. Her marriage was abusive, and it came out, that she would fly to Florida, to meet with other groupies, while not telling her husband when, or where she was going. She had very little regard for him. Groupie’s are a very real phenomenon.

[@CammiiLyin]

@@mimi0424 thank you for sharing , losing a loved one to a brutal act will always stick with the loved ones . But others don’t see or feel how we feel. My bio was getting to know ( I’m adopted) was 22 I was a teen was murdered , found out on fb. Over 200$ a woman stuck a knife in his heart and watched him bleed out . She got 15 years , three years ago I was at my best friends 4th of July , my son was playing with with a kid . A woman talked about how her sister was in jail for 15 for stabbing and what happened . I asked was the victims name (my brother) she’s like yeah that’s the guy, I told her that’s my brother. Turns out she took over the care of her sisters child , the child playing with my brother . I felt like ice ran in my veins , like all the air had been taken from me and everything went slow motion

[@coffeebeancas]

Billy shaking so hard just breaks my heart. The pain and fear they all still hold is just horrifying.

[@ellenfitzsimmons1921]

I’m so incredibly sorry this happened to them. There are no words.

[@perrinfan]

These two men are extraordinary people. God bless them. And Rita, if I could, I would give you a hug. The works of evil people leave terrible pain. May you find peace.

[@AnnaF33]

You know they lie for money😂

[@perrinfan]

@@AnnaF33 No. These men are truthful.

[@sunshinepoppy8459]

@@perrinfan How do you know that?

[@perrinfan]

@@sunshinepoppy8459 It is obvious.

[@sunshinepoppy8459]

@@perrinfan I think not!

[@jepoygwapo1534]

The fact that people will simp on Jeffrey is disgusting

[@AnnaF33]

Cry about it.

[@claudettewright365]

@@AnnaF33 You’re sick. Get some help.

[@AnnaF33]

@@claudettewright365 i don’t need it😂 sheep

[@claudettewright365]

@@AnnaF33 You clearly do. 🤡

[@boomds5602]

No one does

[@Markeike123]

Billy is attempting to speak as calmly as possible in a very shaky voice and he is trembling out of his skin. Dr Phil should not have exploited their pain and trauma like this 😢

[@sunnyuptown.7109]

The many tv shows and movies did way more exploitation that was evil, this interview was by choice for them to share their story.

[@abigailbarber1977]

I actually think it's good to show the affects that evil has on it's victims

[@Pinkranger87]

They were Jeffery's first victims before he started murdering

[@Pinkranger87]

He wasn't. Most people don't know about the victims he before he started killing. Most serial killers have victims that they don't kill just abuse

[@Markeike123]

@Pinkranger87 i dont understand u whoever u are.....

[@MonsVonD]

The fact that they didnt tell the families and victims before they made the show is HORRIBLE

[@AseAleisha]

Very

[@billscannell93]

They have already made so many movies and shows about this nut over the decades, it is hard for me to see what it was about this one that caused such an uproar. Just a few years ago it was the movie "My Friend Dahmer," with that kid from the Disney channel, that was the talk of the town.

[@blackswan1983]

@@billscannell93 This one is popular.

[@claudettewright365]

@@billscannell93 That one didn’t gain nearly as much traction as this Netflix series did.

[@ns1208]

@@claudettewright365 how would they beforehand it was gonna get popular?

[@justthatgirl-ct4jo]

Dr. Phil is no different from Netflix and neither are any of us for watching it. We all need to accept that reality.

[@JohnSmith-pl4sf]

I liked it, I dont care what the family of the family of the victims say about the show,

[@groovyli4502]

@@JohnSmith-pl4sf you should care because these victims had families who are still haunted till this day with how they’re loved one were murdered senselessly.

[@JohnSmith-pl4sf]

@@groovyli4502 I have no empathy for them, if they dont like the show then dont watch it, I didn't make the series on Netflix, so blame it on Netflix, not me

[@ddoubleu170]

I accept it. I’m not proud of it, but I accept it. Thanks for holding us accountable.

[@teahlee351]

@@JohnSmith-pl4sf Well aren’t we an edgy little sociopath.

[@XxItalianVampPrinces]

The two men and the sister of the one victim broke my heart. 30 years later and the story keeps being brought up and those wounds are open again and again. In my opinion I think it's time to stop bringing Jeffery up so the victims and their familes can be at peace

[@rebeccahoffman4769]

I’m grateful they are able and willing to share their stories. Wishing them nothing but healing. I can’t even imagine…

[@ankina86]

the real Jeff Dahmer was definitely worse than the one from the series.

[@AnnaF33]

They are much worse killers then Dahner..

[@claudettewright365]

@@AnnaF33 Uhhhhh…. That doesn’t mean he still wasn’t a literal evil monster? What’s wrong with you?!?

[@anthonycampos8057]

What are you talking about? They're the same.

[@jenniferroberts8370]

@@AnnaF33and what’s your point. He’s evil murder is evil they are all demons who cares if one in your mind is worse They are all demons

[@miss-astronomikal-mcmxcvii]

@ankina86 And yet girls still want to have their fangirl crush on him!!! 😢😡

[@forpeace1580]

The man in the military who told people in the military, tested, etc. was crying over the victimization of no one listening and helping him. Abused by more than Dahmer many times over. Knowing what I know now about the world, nothing surprises me anymore but sure does affect me. God bless the survivors and the horror they went through. I pray that the one who was habitually abused by Dahmer finds Christ Jesus and they both find peace and healing. The other gentleman knows the Lord. What a blessing they have each other.

[@jenniferjolliff]

I appreciate how they gave these people a platform to share their stories. To the survivors, you all are so strong and so deserving of a beautiful life. Praying that you would give yourself space to grieve as long as you need to and find lasting joy in Christ. Thank you for sharing. 🌿

[@boydownunder007]

i am 60 years old and remember very well back in the early 90s when Jeffrey Dahmer was arrested and the World was shocked by this crime of people being drugged then tied up tortured raped and then killed and eaten it was unbelievable

[@jjeennnnnn]

These men are incredibly strong and brave.

[@lexxitrexxi]

I want to hug and comfort them so badly.

[@Itslizzylulu]

Sad that they have to go through these painful situation & that the victims families lost their loved ones. RIP to The Victims.

[@almsecurity2857]

Oh my goodness their courage is amazing

[@MsKimmie]

I am here to tell you tell you a story. I was raped, beaten and dumped in the woods naked 42 years ago at the age of 13yr. The trauma, and survivor's guilt has destroyed my life!! I pray for both of these gentleman. He is right, it is not for us to understand God's plan in this fleshly world!!🙏🙏🙏

[@blackswan1983]

I am so glad you're still here!

[@danaclark1785]

My heart is with you!!! ❤

[@betsy3473]

Sending you love ❤

[@TopSecretInformations]

It takes a lot of strength to overcome those who trespass against us.

[@genevarh]

That is horrible, so glad you're still here. Sending love ❤️❤️❤️

[@evernevermore-ci2so]

The damage that Jeffrey caused will never be fixed. Jeffrey is dead and gone, arguably got what he deserved in prison. But these people have to live with the pain and grief forever.

[@anastasiamarkova6134]

What an amazing interview. I’ve never watched anything with these guys.

[@megtanz2992]

There’s no way the military didn’t know what was going on. They let it happen to Billy.

[@totheedge25]

No doubt! The real question is why they let it happen to Billy.

[@SeqZZ]

@@totheedge25 because Billy made it up

[@SeqZZ]

Or he's a liar

[@Ladybhive71]

​@@SeqZZyeah he is

[@esclad]

We don't need protecting from the truth. Discovering facts and learning about true crime is informative & educational and gives us an insight into corrupt minds, there's nothing wrong in learning the facts. The victims will always be traumatized but we can't ignore history.

[@MsNooneinparticular]

The problem is what Netflix is portraying are NOT "the facts". It's a sympathetic Hollywood version of what happened in which this cannibalistic necrophiliac rapist serial killer is painted like some generic superhero movie villain & his REAL victims are barely a footnote. It's not even a documentary but a shitty re-enactment. Not True Crime at all.

[@gamergirl7869]

I think the biggest problem isn’t people trying to hide it, it’s about how it’s handled. People get upset when it seems like you’re glorifying the murderer and disregarding the surviving victims. The easiest example would be stan accounts, who make edits of dahmer and the like with Snapchat heart filters over their face to the back of some love song. That’s just straight wrong and I personally believe that things like that shouldn’t exist. When people turn the story of a murderer into a show it’s a very thin line between education and entertainment. When you lean too far into entertainment, it gets disrespectful and could potentially lead to some harassment of survivors. If you lean too far into education, you blend in with all the other dahmer documentaries. It’s a really thin line to toe.

[@claudettewright365]

@@gamergirl7869 This. It’s the execution, not the content itself.

[@boo1der393]

@@gamergirl7869 I think the Dahmer show was done very well. They brought life to some things that isn't talked about enough, regarding the victims and the police. The creator reached out to the families and it was their choice not to give any input.

[@boo1der393]

@@gamergirl7869 brought light* I meant to say...

[@momo2sweaty]

I still can’t believe he got away with it for so long

[@mizztia5303]

I believe them. They are traumatised.

[@noah1602]

So heartbreaking

[@travelsquadd]

Jeff Dahmer was truly a monster. I watched the series and a movie. I remember as a kid hearing about him. I'm a vet. To learn he joined the armed forces, learned a skill, and used it to torture vets and victims is disgusting. These soldiers are true heroes for sharing Intel on what happens behind closed doors in the military. This was the late 70's. Compensation ain't enough. I wonder was there a hearing @ the base in Germany? I thank these vets for their service. Let's pay homage to the victims, not that satanic incel.

[@chubbychonkchubbus8729]

Its messed up Tiktok is sexualizing him and defending him.

[@lydiaboll2872]

Isn’t incel only applicable to men that hate women? Dahmer was gay.

[@faith_God]

Rest in Heaven to all the victims 🙏🏼

[@jeanakatherine9369]

Re read ur bible…people don’t go to heaven..we stay dead until Jesus wakes us up & welcomes us to paradise…

[@monicapyle]

@@jeanakatherine9369 are you seventh day Adventist?

[@jeanakatherine9369]

@@monicapyle no

[@monicapyle]

@@jeanakatherine9369 may I ask what church you go to? A friend of mine is seventh day Adventist and she also believes we sleep until Christ returns. I'm not here to belittle and bash you. I'm genuinely interested.

[@jeanakatherine9369]

@@monicapyle oh I don’t go to church really like I should, but I read the Bible & had it explained to me by Jehovahs witnesses & it made alot of sense

[@Valturnaqueen]

This is so sad. Shame on military.

[@edwardngugi7849]

I feel for this two guys 😭😭

[@sophiar6996]

For those that watched these three on here on Dr. Phil's channel - they cut over half of each one of them out! You can find all three parts on here on other channels that are 38 minutes long that explain tons of things that were cut out.

[@verbrugghezelda3808]

Very impressive two men i am so sorry for what you both went through.

[@dressagerider31]

YEAH, not impressed with his father even a little bit. I've seen interviews where both parents blamed EACH OTHER with the way Jeffrey turned out totally ignoring the role their incessant arguing while he was growing up played in his developement, now he wants to go around on talk shows and play the victim? The REAL victims entered his apartment and whether they left again were never the same. Will not be watching this episode

[@AseAleisha]

I want to hug them all ugh this is so hard on all of the victims let's stop idolizing these monsters and killers

[@stephaniaberry2271]

The pain will never go away even after all this time

[@BenWinder108]

Leave it to Dr Phil to jump on the Netflix trends.

[@lucyeleanormoderatz8092]

I watched it basically because of Evan Peters!! He’s a phenomenal actor!

[@aquacrimefighter2368]

You added to the profit netflix has made off these horrific events. But whatever reason helps you sleep at night I guess.

[@lucyeleanormoderatz8092]

@@aquacrimefighter2368 oh who cares. There are bigger problems in this world than Netflix making profits. Get over it.

[@aquacrimefighter2368]

@@lucyeleanormoderatz8092 lol. Yep, there are bigger problems therefore this one isn’t important and we all, just like you, should contribute to it. Again, whatever helps you sleep at night.

[@lucyeleanormoderatz8092]

@@aquacrimefighter2368 exactly!

[@Adanishmagahat]

It is an interesting approach. I often wonder why I am,-and many others are so obsessed with serial killers and psychopaths

[@aleksjane]

This BREAKS MY HEART ! 😢😢

[@fooddrugadministrator4079]

Evil person is a nightmare!

[@fdr100100]

the Netflix series was not made to glamorise it was made to expose the story and it worked especially the fact that a lot of foreigners have now seen his story and potentially people can be helped

[@heidischunzel2660]

I’m so damn sorry I swear what we go thru with this kind of treatment, rape is no joke in the military!

[@Letsmakeart321]

This is insane

[@PeacefulPiranha]

Jeff was a true monster.

[@anthonycampos8057]

Well who said he wasnt?

[@zoejackson79]

We talked about this man in class. The things he did were freaky not gonna lie, but I wonder how he got away with all that

[@emilyfeagin2673]

People who could have stopped it, ignored it

[@freetobree5323]

Racism and homophobia played a large role in how he got away with it. Cops were called numerous times *by black people*. Cops believed his excuse over the safety of a young Asian boy. Authorities did not want to go near the matters of homosexuality..

[@cathrinerhardt]

He was white and it was the 70s. No one cared about minorities, black, gay. It was privilege, that simple.

[@kevinsevcechreactions6360]

People would ask him what the awful smell was because he had body parts deteriorating in acid but he just say it’s over-spoiled meat

[@bresi4405]

That's why refusing to watch that mess on Netflux is the best thing to do. Even the good Doctor jumped in on the action

[@anthonycampos8057]

What? Dr Phil himself said he watched the show.

[@TopSecretInformations]

he's not a "doctor".

[@FallenWorldFilms]

As if Dr. Phil isn’t also capitalizing on the tragedies in this very show..

[@amberanderson528]

yup lol. cant stand dr phil. he's always acting all innocent. lol

[@Ms_Tania]

@@amberanderson528 A little weird that you're in his comment section then, no?!?!

[@amberanderson528]

@@Ms_Tania I like the Jeffrey story but not dr phil.

[@alisavasquez7969]

The only thing he can offer is allowing them to tell their side of the story to a large audience. These men agreed to do this knowing this will be watched by thousands… It’s kind of hard to compete with Netflix..

[@bsteele593]

Why didn’t you guys interview Tracy the hero in all of this!

[@oop_bryan__3215]

He’s in jail lol

[@chelsaymarie1148]

@@oop_bryan__3215 they’ve done interviews with people in jail..🤷🏼‍♀️

[@jamesr.g.2320]

I don’t think he’s able to be interviewed. Tracy apparently never really recovered from Dahmer and spiraled downwards.

[@bsteele593]

@@jamesr.g.2320 hes in prison for murder Im sure they didn’t ask him almost positive

[@iknowyouvebeenwaiting]

I wonder how he reacted to the Netflix series. Also yeah, they should’ve interviewed the more of victims families

[@brooklynpalmer3969]

This is honestly sad, these men were fighting for our freedom and Jeff took advantage of these poor men.

[@nakedfordinner]

freedom from what

[@assadshewabakhtiar1110]

@@nakedfordinner 😂😂😂😂😂 Great question

[@misteropinion2869]

Fighting for your freedom? That's the real joke!! To free you they would have to fight your own government, the very ones soldiers kill for!! Jeffrey killed, so did Soldiers, both are monsters. Only soldiers kill men, woman and children! So who's the real monsters?

[@johnk.7523]

Very solid question.

[@kristinknitz6216]

I'm glad Dr. Phil made sure the world heard some of the victims and their stories. People don't think about them as much as that psychopath. 😕

[@assadshewabakhtiar1110]

And....he was a white guy. It doesn't surprise me.

[@dominiquemmusso5844]

This is crazy

[@Alisha8596]

Dr.Phil is doing the same thing netflix is doing, profiting/gaining off of their story

[@Alana-oy2jz]

Prayers for these people🙏

[@Aneda-xl8wj]

I read some online official police reports in which Dahmer said that he didn't do anything ilegal during military service and he wasn't a racist at all. However, here the story is totally different, so did Dahmer lie to detectives, lawyers, and everyone even after his arrest? I don't understand anything!!! The more information you get, the more confusing it gets. Serial killers' mind is such a horrendous mystery. He only knew the truth, and I think he never said it all. Seeing the sister crying broke my heart ! That's real pain!

[@alicemarquesdossantos4664]

Provavelmente o Jeff Dahmer não quis ser acusado por mais 2 crimes de estupro, por isso omitiu essa mais esse crime. No momento em que o Dahmer foi interrogado, ele também não disse que tinha comido pessoas. O médico legista descobriu é os dois policiais acabaram o confrontando. Dahmer não nego, apenas disse que não tinha dito antes porque não achou relevante, é por medo do que os dois policiais iriam pensar dele.

[@terraleanna4637]

@Michael David ty for this info

[@terraleanna4637]

Yup well these are 2 victims who’s saying what really happened to him so yes Jeffrey definitely lied and was a racist !

[@carrieday8423]

May God Bless All the Families & victims of J.D 🙏❤️🙏

[@gemma1874]

The victim's sister Rita hugs to her. Hugs to the other victims

[@Jfeliner]

I wish they touched on the disgusting cops who gave that poor kid back to Jeffery who just laughed everything off….

[@tomschueller4545]

Was killed in prison along with a guy who murdered his wife.

[@kariann3198]

They all have murdered wives and children in prison. And Dahmer mocked and antagonized another person on purpose to instigate his murder on purpose it wasn’t an accident

[@kadzo6614]

Who asked?

[@Jotiyh]

Yea racist Dahmer who was friends with and killed with a racist murderer who killed his wife and tried to say it was two black men. Which was a known thing of many whites committing crimes and pinning it on random innocent black people then blacks being hung or executed and killed for crimes they didn’t even commit.

[@TopSecretInformations]

'lil nassy strikes again. Gotta play that card. That tired routine. _yawn_

[@chrisalberts9414]

Guy talks about glamorizing him, but goes on dr. Phil which does that exactly 💯

[@melaniepatrick8727]

Oh my I feel so heartbroken for these people and all they are going thru

[@ericduggan1520]

I’m at o glad that these men survived. God bless you both! Thanks for your service! 🇺🇸

[@LiirThropp2687]

The evil and pain that Jeffrey caused. He is dead and gone. Has been for years. But the victims who survived still feel the impact every day. They can't escape. I believe her when she said she felt the evil when she was in front of Jeffrey.

[@jerrysizzler44]

While I did not find the Dahmer series "glamorized" him - I did find they made him more sympathetic than anything before. I strongly feel that the series highlighted the issues of racism, homophobia, and the insufficient justice/correctional system. Also, Jeff was dead, so he got no satisfaction from the success of the production. Just saying - it's a slippery slope to try to demonize or "cancel" this production, instead of all the factors that went into creating a Jeff and allowing a Jeff to get away with so much.

[@sonias9960]

I agree it is really traumatizing to have to revisit a horrific story about a horrific person doing horrific things. But the main point to highlight is that this cannot happen again and unfortunately nothing was done just recently google what’s been going on in Kansas. About black women going missing and cops tried to cover it up.

[@destinyashaiyah9351]

I agree

[@freetobree5323]

Exactly. While I feel for the victims families having to relive this trauma, there’s too much to learn from the story to just never talk about it again

[@sonias9960]

@@freetobree5323 There are a lot of lessons to be learned. First lesson is how we raise our children what environment do they grow up in, making sure that they’re honest etc. second lesson Is being aware of strangers, their intentions and their motives. Third lesson is making sure that the authorities are doing their job, buy properly punishing perpetrators and protecting the community. A lot of lessons

[@aleksjane]

30 years and u can still se the pain in these beautiful people omg this makes me cry .. bless u all u did'nt deserve this pain❤️❤️❤️❤️

[@iAmiSaid]

Those are two real men right there, man's man, they don't make them like that anymore

[@suevacante283]

Why wasn’t it reported?

[@NoudlePipW]

A lottttt of shame, especially back then, around being gay and especially if you were black and gay. ESPECIALLY in you were in the army. The police were shocking about Dahmer as well, he was reported SO many times.

[@jamesr.g.2320]

It was … the army didn’t do anything. The times were different back then around rape and even thought that men weren’t able to get raped.

[@BsTheLadynred]

Umm it was just like when women get raped in the military. They ignore it.

[@ashleystar4773]

Men being raped or sexually assulted by other men was a big taboo at the time.

[@BsTheLadynred]

@@ashleystar4773 What?? When has it ever been OK? And he reported it. How old were you when they were in the military in 1979? What a stupid comment. It was not OK to be gay but these men weren't gay, they were raped. And yeah you kept it secret if you were gay but clearly you think this was the same thing. It is not!! I was 20 in 1979 how old were you?

[@biggestdann326]

The victims simply shouldn't have retraumatized themselves by watching the series. I thought it was a good series and didn't try to make Jeffery look like anything other than a monster

[@invadermarkb]

This was just horrific in every sense of the word, is there anywhere though I can watch this full episode? I missed it yesterday.

[@upshitcreek998]

This is Monsters is so new to YT but he does an AMAZING job covering all of his stories I’m happy you mentioned them! There are several other amazing channels. Annie Elise With 10 to Life should get a reward for most improved channel, and the fact that she is humbled and admits when she is wrong, she apologizes genuinely like all creators should when needed. the Misery Machine Deserves a mention as well is Grizzly True Crime and Cinema Showgun. There are just so many but those are a few. Dr. Phil should do a show and have all of these creators com on to discuss why they created these channels and to help them generate more subscribers I want to come on the show to thank them for their incredible coverage. Also big big big deals Stephanie Harlow, Kendal Rae and Danielle Hallen! Those ones have never skipped a beat, they work soooo hard for their channels

[@leanngeer4284]

Love @thisismonsters

[@upshitcreek998]

MY BAD I thought Dr. Phil was says my that the YT channel this is monsters covered the story. It’s not the same people ahhhh

[@kaylawhite2785]

I agree! @10tolife & @christinarandall They're my girls, always on point!

[@vickiesmith5081]

Don’t you like Bailey ??

[@kaylawhite2785]

@@vickiesmith5081 who's Bailey? Haven't heard of her.

[@ilovethe80sglasgowgirl35]

There is absolutely no denying that jeffrey dahlmer was a monster who done the most awful things to many people but these two guys stories just do not add up at all. Ive seen them many times throughout the years being interviewed and im sorry im just gonie come right out and say it...i don't believe them.

[@laurens5890]

I was looking for a comment like this. I feel the same.

[@LUKERs1196]

I believe them

[@finalgirl640]

If they were women you'd have no issue I'm sure.

[@SeqZZ]

@@finalgirl640 no I'd still disbelieve them

[@highschoolbyeschool3908]

Dr. Phil, how can you try to shame netflix but turn around and profit off the same tragedy?

[@createart8032]

The father is lying.

[@bongoukiyo6942]

Damn I hate Jeff even more now

[@lisalaura823]

Thank you for sharing your experience and I’m so sorry for what happened to you. I will not watch the Netflix show.

[@anthonycampos8057]

Why not?

[@lisalaura823]

@@anthonycampos8057 because if no one watched it then there wouldn’t be a market for it. The victims and loved ones do not endorse the show and the least I can do is support them.

[@anthonycampos8057]

@@lisalaura823 but there is a big time market for it. That's why Dr Phil is doing this show.

[@lisalaura823]

@@anthonycampos8057 yes there is. Are you saying Dr Phil is wrong for covering this? I think he wants to contribute to healing. I certainly don’t see him causing any harm, but maybe that isn’t what you mean.

[@anthonycampos8057]

@@lisalaura823 what is he doing that is any different from what you're complaining about?

[@brookewhitten6197]

Dr. Phil, I know you'll never see this comment but I'm writing it anyway. I've watched every documentary on the big serial killers that I could find. Maybe out of curiosity? I really don't know why they've fascinated me so much - my entire life! This twelve minute video, (especially at 11:55) made the biggest impact on me out of everything I've ever seen. All the others were just movies or just the news, but this made it real! For the first time in my life I actually SEE the victims and feel their pain. I watched the Netflix series on Dahmer and never even flinched. I think they've desensitized us, so thank you for doing this episode! I won't be watching anything else that glamourizes these monsters anymore! Prayers for these precious people and all of Dahmer's victims and their families and friends. Blessings from Houston. 😞

[@krzysieksperkowski1972]

J. Dahmer, unlike many other serial killers was so calm during the interviews or his statement at the court. He was not arrogant or verbally argessive. There were no moments when his mask dissapeared for a moment and the truth diabolic evil was shown. Many people used to consider him as „more sick than evil”. Now new facts come to light and this whole case is so insane… If he was able to act like these men described when he was drunk and be such a racist and a sadist, and then convinsingly appear as an individual who regret his acts and say sorry for the families and all of his „camera” behaviors were only simulation, then his persona appears as even more grotesque..

[@user-en6zl1cm5r]

It's called fake news circa 1991. All three of the people ''crying'' in this video are actors.

[@moragmillar6981]

I feel sorry for all the victims but Billy that's terrible 😢

[@lixinxin]

Although the stanzipotenza bit wasn't uploaded here, did show producers actually miss that the TikTok was satire, or were they using it to show that the true crime obsession was so common that it can be satirized almost as a trope? Also can we talk about how women find true crime fascinating for reasons like: • catharsis over seeing crimes being investigated and exposed when many of them may have been unable to obtain justice for themselves • solidarity with the victims • assurance that they are gathering information that may help them protect themselves from similar attacks

[@themissydeyo]

Dr Phil is totally trying to capitalize on the recent surge in true crime fans all over social media

[@CheeryChira]

while that could be true, you could say that about every possible news outlet, social media/youtube channel that talks about anything ever. So we just stop talking about everything, because we don't want to capitalize on other people's trauma? While I'm not a big Dr. Phil fan, I would have never heard about these two speaking out otherwise. Just something to think about

[@missblueeyes420]

Dr.Phil just had to jump on the Dahmer bandwagon.......No surprises here

[@Itspulchra]

This right here is why I will never watch that horrendous movie. The victims and their families deserve peace. The fact that their attacker is being glorified makes me sick to my stomach. I can’t imagine having that trauma resurfaced just for Hollywood money. The writers should be ashamed of themselves.

[@anthonycampos8057]

It's a series, not a movie. And get ready because Netflix just approved two new seasons of the monster series.

[@Itspulchra]

@@anthonycampos8057 Movie or series, it doesn’t matter. I will continue to ignore it either way.

[@anthonycampos8057]

@@Itspulchra good for you because the show clearly suffers when you're not watching😉

[@Itspulchra]

@@anthonycampos8057 It has nothing to do with that. 🤦🏼‍♀️ I just won’t watch it. Plain and simple. Not sure why you think that was the point. You’re a terrible mind reader.

[@user-en6zl1cm5r]

Start watching around 11:56. The black guy in the cap is watching the white guy in the cap to know when it's time to take off his glasses and wipe his eyes with the hankie. Atrocious acting from all three of them.

[@birdies8397]

Not everything is a conspiracy, Karen.

[@user-en6zl1cm5r]

@@birdies8397 I agree. That whole thing looked completely natural.

[@TopSecretInformations]

@@birdies8397 Way to turn off your God given intuition, shaniqua.

[@orangewarm1]

Isn't Phil dragging it up again for entertainment?

[@Chris-tn9zx]

There are alot of physiologist have interviewed him and profiled him Why not bring them on . To get real picture instead of guessing by his victims what he was

[@indigogirl5172]

I stopped watching that NETFLIX series after the first episode. It is sick. I don’t want to sympathize and get to know that monster. It is sick that they are glorifying is monster.

[@orangewarm1]

why doesn't the military prosecute injustices?

[@chuc5o]

There's nothing new about Hollywood movies about serial killers ever since Lizzie Borden.

[@florenbaron7111]

The mili/tary should pay repar/ations.

[@mwadjumamukamfizi2216]

Wow !!wat a sick individual, this is very sad he drugged people

[@Zombieboy574]

Definitely more than 17

[@0shadowgrace0]

i don't understand how this could have been done in the military

[@BsTheLadynred]

Are you kidding?? Women have been raped in the military for years and were ignored.

[@anonymousstudent8254]

Haha I agree notice the fat white guy can’t even make eye contact

[@ladybhive1210]

100%

[@sophiaflagg4259]

It happens all the time it still happens

[@MZYGREEN12]

It still happens. Some are even killed and it get swept under the rug in the military.

[@21stCenturyTemplar.]

It keeps amazing me how Jeffrey physically looks like two totally different people. The one as in the last days of court is slim and good looking while other moments he looks puffy and nerdy and really non attractive ! I can't point out what it is but it just seems like two totally different men.

[@ashleybufton2344]

Seriously!! I agree!!! It's insane how he looks different everytime I see him

[@8luvbug]

Gemini

[@كيستينا-د8ن]

He gained weight when he was in prison

[@21stCenturyTemplar.]

@@كيستينا-د8ن No that's not it, he actually looked more healthy and lean, it's just his whole face looks totally different, not nerdy or ugly at all, a fine looking man with nice facial features, don't get me wrong I'm a hetero straight man with two sons and a daughter, I just like to say it as it as and not afraid to say that a man is attractive when I see one.

[@asdasd-os5vk]

They gave him psychiatric drugs, anti-psychotics, and they make people fat and damage the body in many ways.

[@kathrynelizabeth1612]

Im sorry but in no way did the show glamorize Jeffery Dahmer.

[@klattalexis]

Psychological profile of a budding psychopath & serial killer: young male, bedwetter, fire-starter, who tortures animals . . . . . . . . . Ihad one of these in my neighbourhood! Most, if not all of my hobby farm animals were found dead or mutilated over all the 30 years I lived there. Alls the police would say, "If you don't like living in Mission, why don't you think about moving?"

[@klattalexis]

Now I have Complex-PTSD. And trying to post this keeps on showing me an error message! Somebody does not want me to share this with the public!

[@serin7318]

@@klattalexis I read it

[@sjgee4309]

So sorry to hear.That's awful.

[@kariann3198]

You had more than one in your neighborhood not all covertly hurt animals or wet their bed 30% of males will have ASPD

[@kariann3198]

Half the police officers are sociopaths and psychopaths

[@alexwalls3028]

I'm sorry but I just don't think Jeff Dahmer was doing any of his actions out of pure racism he didn't need to. half the people in his time period haven't swayed from being racist. I don't believe billy jumped out a 2 story window and I don't believe someone would take that long to recollect something that vile especially when it's happening to people around him.

[@bonniebon7335]

You and others like you are why bad people get away with such things.

[@ninjakittycat6888]

I won’t watch it. I refuse. This is not entertainment. This is the real life of so many people and their families. 🤬🤬🤬

[@jaybayer3670]

There are endless possibilities of pieces of horror media you can create. We don’t need reactments of real events.